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April 05, 2014, 05:45:05 PM
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A short summary: People in Crimea cover up the Ukrainian flag on their licence plates with Russian flag stickers, while waiting for the new official licence plates.
As one interviewee says, "We've been under Ukraine for 20 years. Enough's enough." The sales in kiosks of Russian attributes goes on high gear. One kiosk owner says she sells 20-30 stickers a day only in her kiosk, and there are hundreds of such kiosks around town. And miniature Russian flags are completely sold out on the peninsula.

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April 07, 2014, 04:28:55 PM
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April 07, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
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Heard about the incident yesterday at Novofedorivka. What actually happened? Sad to see people getting killed.
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April 07, 2014, 09:06:41 PM
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Heard about the incident yesterday at Novofedorivka. What actually happened? Sad to see people getting killed.
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April 07, 2014, 09:09:38 PM
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Heard about the incident yesterday at Novofedorivka. What actually happened? Sad to see people getting killed.
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Google it, there are almost 100 links or more, all in Russian or Ukrainian.

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April 07, 2014, 09:15:06 PM
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According do Russian media it was a group of drunken Ukrainan soldiers who quarrelled with Russian soldiers. Ukrainian soldier wounded Russian one, who responded by opening fire. Russia opened a criminal (murder) investigation of the incident.

http://ria.ru/incidents/20140407/1002817997.html

And again, according to Russian media, Kiev denies that the soldiers imbued too much:

http://ria.ru/incidents/20140407/1002932948.html

Run them through http://translate.google.com if you can't read Russian.

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April 08, 2014, 02:44:28 AM
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Heard about the incident yesterday at Novofedorivka. What actually happened? Sad to see people getting killed.
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It is mentioned here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/08/world/europe/russia-crimea-ukraine-unrest.html?hpw&rref=world&_r=0
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April 09, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
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Crimean Constitution draft ready:
http://rt.com/politics/crimea-constitution-russia-standards-361/

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April 09, 2014, 12:29:10 PM
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I wonder about what's going to be with tatars there - seems like they are going to become Russian as other citizens in Crimea or they would become stateless, that's even worse

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April 09, 2014, 12:43:55 PM
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seems like they are going to become Russian
You can't "become Russian" by applying citizenship, it's a senseless statement. Roll Eyes

or they would become stateless, that's even worse
They were stateless already. They had no schools, no state recognition of language & culture due to ukrainian unitarism. But now they've got a state recognition, because the new republic is a sovereign entity in a federative structure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Crimea

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Official languages   Russian; Crimean Tatar; Ukrainian

Generally, there are no problem with rights of tatar people in RF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hd9hzS9KFk Smiley
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April 09, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
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I wonder about what's going to be with tatars there - seems like they are going to become Russian as other citizens in Crimea or they would become stateless, that's even worse

If they want they can get the Russian citizenship. If they don't want it, then they are free to migrate to Turkey.
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April 09, 2014, 02:49:21 PM
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I wonder about what's going to be with tatars there - seems like they are going to become Russian as other citizens in Crimea or they would become stateless, that's even worse

If they want they can get the Russian citizenship. If they don't want it, then they are free to migrate to Turkey.
Or get a residence permit.
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April 09, 2014, 03:27:17 PM
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Or get a residence permit.

If they want to be residents, then they have to obey the local laws. These people have illegally seized hundreds of thousands of acres of fertile farmland from the Slavs. Also, they have illegally squatted upon significant amount of public lands. First let them vacate those lands. We can consider about the residence permits sometime later.
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April 11, 2014, 09:11:13 AM
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The Parliament of Crimea just ratified the new Constitution of the Federal Republic

http://www.forbes.ru/news/254363-parlament-kryma-prinyal-novuyu-konstitutsiyu-respubliki

The federal government of the Russian Federation does not need to ratify it, so the new constitution comes into effect after its publication in the parliamentarian newspaper on the 12th of April.

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April 11, 2014, 11:31:09 AM
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We are yet to see that happening in real. And I am losing my patience.
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April 11, 2014, 12:17:16 PM
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This was fun. This guy basically got called by a Ukrainian bank demanding rent payments on his mortgage. So the guy said, that when he signed the contract, he also singed an insurance, where one of the clauses states that insurance company pays his debt in full if he ends up in a war zone. According all official Ukrainian TV channels, Crimea is a war zone with Russian troops in it, so the bank should direct all the questions to the insurance company. The bank rep hang up and didn't call back. The guy thanks Ukrainian TV for his economic liberation from Ukraine. Cheesy

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April 11, 2014, 12:40:21 PM
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This was fun. This guy basically got called by a Ukrainian bank demanding rent payments on his mortgage. So the guy said, that when he signed the contract, he also singed an insurance, where one of the clauses states that insurance company pays his debt in full if he ends up in a war zone. According all official Ukrainian TV channels, Crimea is a war zone with Russian troops in it, so the bank should direct all the questions to the insurance company. The bank rep hang up and didn't call back. The guy thanks Ukrainian TV for his economic liberation from Ukraine. Cheesy

OMG! The Ukrainian financial institutions will go bankrupt if this is allowed to happen. At the time of liberation of Crimea, it had almost 5% of the total Ukrainian population. Tens of thousands of Crimeans might have taken loans from the Ukrainian banks. Disaster for Kiev.
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