【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021)

[Sampey]

sell orders:

0.00004984 185.85057614 0.00926279
0.00004985 132.70631884 0.00661541
0.00005397 10.00000000 0.00053970
0.00005399 311.97558269 0.01684356
0.00005496 1617.40162830 0.08889239  <- big order
0.00005497 500.00000000 0.02748500  <- me

PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Check For Recalculation
2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : First Markets Checks Are Ok.
2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : Never Sell Under 0.00005000 price calculated is 0.00004983  !!!
2014-10-27 01:59:27| PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Recalculation.
2014-10-27 01:59:59| PPA : Update Market Orders,My Orders,My Trades.

I Don't understand what's the problem.
You have a Sell Order of 0.00005497
The recalculation routine starts.
Value calculate is 0.00004983 (to be on TOP of the Book Orders).
Never Sell Under Parameter comes in play and order is not recreated

sorry, but this is BS! 

What is BS?

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[Sampey]

Dear Customers, there's a PROBLEM (BIG PROBLEM) on Poloniex.

During order creation, C.A.T. is getting the same errore "HTTP Connection Error : Server returned HTTP response code: 502 for URL: https://poloniex.com/tradingApi"

BUT

Order is created on Site

This could only create big problems because C.A.T. will retry to create the order, and the result will be that another order will be added until your available balance will became 0!!!

Actually problems seems fixed.

[RenHoek]

sell orders:

0.00004984 185.85057614 0.00926279
0.00004985 132.70631884 0.00661541
0.00005397 10.00000000 0.00053970
0.00005399 311.97558269 0.01684356
0.00005496 1617.40162830 0.08889239  <- big order
0.00005497 500.00000000 0.02748500  <- me

PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Check For Recalculation
2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : First Markets Checks Are Ok.
2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : Never Sell Under 0.00005000 price calculated is 0.00004983  !!!
2014-10-27 01:59:27| PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Recalculation.
2014-10-27 01:59:59| PPA : Update Market Orders,My Orders,My Trades.

I Don't understand what's the problem.
You have a Sell Order of 0.00005497
The recalculation routine starts.
Value calculate is 0.00004983 (to be on TOP of the Book Orders).
Never Sell Under Parameter comes in play and order is not recreated

sorry, but this is BS!  

What is BS?

but why cat cant't put the order IN the order book at 500? At pong orders i have the Option to let create it IN the order book. ?

and this sughests a other important question:

why i can tell cat, not to create ping orders < min.  But i can't do that with Auto pong orders? in some cases cat so will collapse markets with lot of micro orders!
it should be possible to chose a min order value at pongs!

cat is very nice and i love it, but it could be even nicer  

[Sampey]

but why cat cant't put the order IN the order book at 500? At pong orders i have the Option to let create it IN the order book. ?

Pong is different, Pong have a Reference Price.
Ping could be set always on top order book (in respect of Ping-Pong Parameters)
your order was inside the order book, BUT new price calculated was outside the Parameters Limit. If you remove the parameter, orders will be recreated on top of book.

why i can tell cat, not to create ping orders < min.  But i can't do that with Auto pong orders? in some cases cat so will collapse markets with lot of micro orders!

Pong Orders are created from a TRADE. If your PING Order is filled with 3 trades, there will be 3 PONG Orders.

[RenHoek]

but why cat cant't put the order IN the order book at 500? At pong orders i have the Option to let create it IN the order book. ?

Pong is different, Pong have a Reference Price.
Ping could be set always on top order book (in respect of Ping-Pong Parameters)
your order was inside the order book, BUT new price calculated was outside the Parameters Limit. If you remove the parameter, orders will be recreated on top of book.

why i can tell cat, not to create ping orders < min.  But i can't do that with Auto pong orders? in some cases cat so will collapse markets with lot of micro orders!

Pong Orders are created from a TRADE. If your PING Order is filled with 3 trades, there will be 3 PONG Orders.

and you can't add some Logical routines to recreate the pong orders to one? ( sometimes till 50 and more! and all with descending Prices although they all have the same reference price)

thats sad

[Sampey]

I Can try, but it's not so easy as it seems 

[Stratobitz]

Hi Sampey

i wish there where a adjustable Setting for max buy/sell pool use, due prevent to big ping creations after some lucky ping pongs!
or a  "don't cratae total Pings with >"

this  should be possible.

this is possible, i will look for it.

And a Question:
is it possible, to close the program eg. for upgrade with new Version, without losing actual status of orders?

No, sorry 

+1

Is there no way to set max buy amounts allowed?  After a few successful Ping pongs you end up essentially doubling down again and again, so where I might start with a single buy at 0.02345 value in BTC, I've noticed over time I have single orders for .75 BTC.

This is essentially a recipe for wipeout.

It also screws with the books.

Anyway to stop this from happening?

Strato

[Sampey]

Is there no way to set max buy amounts allowed?  After a few successful Ping pongs you end up essentially doubling down again and again, so where I might start with a single buy at 0.02345 value in BTC, I've noticed over time I have single orders for .75 BTC.

I can add this feature but i don't understand the reason : C.A.T. will never use more than the TOTAL (Price * Quantity) of all PING Orders created by you.
If you set a Limit, this limit could work starting from Buy/Sell Pool.
Example :
Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50.
During Lookup 1 : C.A.T. will create a new Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 50 In Pool.
During Lookup 2 : C.A.T. will create another Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 0 In Pool.

Result is that you will have 2 new Ping (probably with the same values).

Could you explain me, how this new option could help you?

[RenHoek]

Is there no way to set max buy amounts allowed?  After a few successful Ping pongs you end up essentially doubling down again and again, so where I might start with a single buy at 0.02345 value in BTC, I've noticed over time I have single orders for .75 BTC.

I can add this feature but i don't understand the reason : C.A.T. will never use more than the TOTAL (Price * Quantity) of all PING Orders created by you.
If you set a Limit, this limit could work starting from Buy/Sell Pool.
Example :
Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50.
During Lookup 1 : C.A.T. will create a new Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 50 In Pool.
During Lookup 2 : C.A.T. will create another Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 0 In Pool.

Result is that you will have 2 new Ping (probably with the same values).

Could you explain me, how this new option could help you?

Example :
Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50.


it should be: never let rise Pool total > 50 (adjustable)  = pool max volume!

never create pings with all tota l> 50



also we need a "dont create pongs < xx" althougt when you dont understud the reason

[Sampey]

Is there no way to set max buy amounts allowed?  After a few successful Ping pongs you end up essentially doubling down again and again, so where I might start with a single buy at 0.02345 value in BTC, I've noticed over time I have single orders for .75 BTC.

I can add this feature but i don't understand the reason : C.A.T. will never use more than the TOTAL (Price * Quantity) of all PING Orders created by you.
If you set a Limit, this limit could work starting from Buy/Sell Pool.
Example :
Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50.
During Lookup 1 : C.A.T. will create a new Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 50 In Pool.
During Lookup 2 : C.A.T. will create another Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 0 In Pool.

Result is that you will have 2 new Ping (probably with the same values).

Could you explain me, how this new option could help you?

Example :
Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50.


it should be: never let rise Pool total > 50 (adjustable)  = pool max volume!

This means that if you start with a PING Of (Total X PricE) 100 and you set Never Let Rise Pool total > 50 this is what happens :

Example
Ping @ Buy 100@1
TRADE FROM PING (1 Trade, Ping Filled) -> Pong Sell 100@1.1
TRADE FROM PONG (1 Trade, Pong Filled) -> GAIN And Total is 100 * 1.1 = 110

110 -> 50 In Pool, 60 is discarded. Right?

[RenHoek]

Is there no way to set max buy amounts allowed?  After a few successful Ping pongs you end up essentially doubling down again and again, so where I might start with a single buy at 0.02345 value in BTC, I've noticed over time I have single orders for .75 BTC.

I can add this feature but i don't understand the reason : C.A.T. will never use more than the TOTAL (Price * Quantity) of all PING Orders created by you.
If you set a Limit, this limit could work starting from Buy/Sell Pool.
Example :
Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50.
During Lookup 1 : C.A.T. will create a new Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 50 In Pool.
During Lookup 2 : C.A.T. will create another Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 0 In Pool.

Result is that you will have 2 new Ping (probably with the same values).

Could you explain me, how this new option could help you?

Example :
Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50.


it should be: never let rise Pool total > 50 (adjustable)  = pool max volume!

This means that if you start with a PING Of (Total X PricE) 100 and you set Never Let Rise Pool total > 50 this is what happens :

Example
Ping @ Buy 100@1
TRADE FROM PING (1 Trade, Ping Filled) -> Pong Sell 100@1.1
TRADE FROM PONG (1 Trade, Pong Filled) -> GAIN And Total is 100 * 1.1 = 110

110 -> 50 In Pool, 60 is discarded. Right?

yes


we add in a session Manual some pings eg 3 * 100  ... with luck there is  3 times a gain of 10 (*3) = total 330

we do not want  automatic ping creation of more than total 100 (afk)

so the pool must not  become over 100   330 -> 100 pool 230 discard = 100 pool

we add now new Manual ping 100 and gain 10 .

poll is already filled max -> so the additional 110 complet dicard!

just a pool max volumen! 

[Sampey]

Ok, if you think this is a good idea, i will add in the 2.3 or 2.4 

[RenHoek]

Ok, if you think this is a good idea, i will add in the 2.3 or 2.4  

yea, This is necessary!  

and we Need a sulution for the pong Problem... maybe it is possible to Programm a adjustable buffer  value  (like a temp pool ) to get a min pong sell Volumen!?

maybe the way is:

ping is 100 -> sell 1 , sell 1, another sell 1 and so on...

we dont want many  pongs with 1 it should be (adjustable) min 10...

so as usual ,  let cat with the first sell, create pong  with 1 . After second sell 1 -> recreate the pong 1+1 and so on, till the pong is risded to 10. With the elevent sell 1 , cat should create a second pong, becouse the last pong has rised to min volume and fill it till 10 ... and so on.

or

let cat create a pool with volume min 10, after it is filled with min 10 let cat create pong from pool.

this would be just a buffer and should be easy programable  

[Stratobitz]

Ok, if you think this is a good idea, i will add in the 2.3 or 2.4  

yea, This is necessary!  

and we Need a sulution for the pong Problem... maybe it is possible to Programm a adjustable buffer  value  (like a temp pool ) to get a min pong sell Volumen!?

maybe the way is:

ping is 100 -> sell 1 , sell 1, another sell 1 and so on...

we dont want many  pongs with 1 it should be (adjustable) min 10...

so as usual ,  let cat with the first sell, create pong  with 1 . After second sell 1 -> recreate the pong 1+1 and so on, till the pong is risded to 10. With the elevent sell 1 , cat should create a second pong, becouse the last pong has rised to min volume and fill it till 10 ... and so on.

or

let cat create a pool with volume min 10, after it is filled with min 10 let cat create pong from pool.

this would be just a buffer and should be easy programable  

I agree. Just purchased. Nice program. But the lack of this feature really makes it near impossible to use. You really have to watch it, all markets, all the time.

Strato

[Sampey]

so as usual ,  let cat with the first sell, create pong  with 1 . After second sell 1 -> recreate the pong 1+1 and so on, till the pong is risded to 10. With the elevent sell 1 , cat should create a second pong, becouse the last pong has rised to min volume and fill it till 10 ... and so on.

The problem is the "Reference Price" (The Ping Price), i can Merge 2 trades only if Reference Price is the same.
The "Merge Trades" function is into my todo list.

But the lack of this feature really makes it near impossible to use. You really have to watch it, all markets, all the time.

I don't agree with that.
A lot of "little ping" or "a big pong" doesn't change much, and also a "pool" limit doesn't change much.

I have A LOT of users, and nobody ask me for this features. And many of them ROI in less than 1 month.

C.A.T. is not Artificial Intelligence, if market changes and go against ping-pong rules there's nothing to do.

[RenHoek]

so as usual ,  let cat with the first sell, create pong  with 1 . After second sell 1 -> recreate the pong 1+1 and so on, till the pong is risded to 10. With the elevent sell 1 , cat should create a second pong, becouse the last pong has rised to min volume and fill it till 10 ... and so on.

The problem is the "Reference Price" (The Ping Price), i can Merge 2 trades only if Reference Price is the same.
The "Merge Trades" function is into my todo list.

But the lack of this feature really makes it near impossible to use. You really have to watch it, all markets, all the time.

I don't agree with that.
A lot of "little ping" or "a big pong" doesn't change much, and also a "pool" limit doesn't change much.

I have A LOT of users, and nobody ask me for this features. And many of them ROI in less than 1 month.

C.A.T. is not Artificial Intelligence, if market changes and go against ping-pong rules there's nothing to do.

pls first improve the core before work on new api frontends. i think, ppl will think twice before purchase any new api front , before the core works in smart condition.

[Sampey]

pls first improve the core before work on new api frontends.

if that's not an issue, I would be able to decide what to do and in what order 

i think, ppl will think twice before purchase any new api front , before the core works in smart condition.

Actually core works in smart condition, and new customers are happy with that.
And i repeat the concept : with the add you're asking me, Core will not became smarter than now. But i will add these new parameters, no problem.

[Miner-TE]

The core is working fine here.  I've never had a problem with it.

I'm currently in "set it and forget it mode" ... As markets fluctuate ... CAT gets me my %min gain.  I could probably get more return if I watched it constantly and tweaked the values but I don't.

Occasionally I'll have a pong that is for such a small amount that the fees are more than the actual gain resulting in a negitive gain. These are such a small amount that the loss is only a satoshi or two.  I then remove the record from the Pool Orders and Trades and move on.

I only reset my position when I upgrade or reboot.

[JonBoy]

Hey everyone,

I am interested in the CAT bot. However, before purchasing what I would like to understand is if people have continued to have success with it although the alt coin market has been in bearish mode for a long time now. Correct me if I am wrong but with CAT I can trade across a large number of currency pairs on the markets you support. If 90% of those currencies have fallen in value during the time I have been running CAT, doesn't that mean no matter how well it performed as they fell in value, the end result is my portfolio has shrunken. Or have I missed something?

Best
JonBoy

[Sampey]

Hey everyone,

I am interested in the CAT bot. However, before purchasing what I would like to understand is if people have continued to have success with it although the alt coin market has been in bearish mode for a long time now. Correct me if I am wrong but with CAT I can trade across a large number of currency pairs on the markets you support. If 90% of those currencies have fallen in value during the time I have been running CAT, doesn't that mean no matter how well it performed as they fell in value, the end result is my portfolio has shrunken. Or have I missed something?

Best
JonBoy

Hi JonBoy,

Correct me if I am wrong but with CAT I can trade across a large number of currency pairs on the markets you support. If 90% of those currencies have fallen in value during the time I have been running CAT, doesn't that mean no matter how well it performed as they fell in value, the end result is my portfolio has shrunken

You're right.
If you don't set ANY stop loss parameter and you continue working on a market during a crash, C.A.T. will continue works BUT probably your estimated portfolio will decrease.

But this is an universal market rule : if USD/BTC crash, all your Cryptocurrency portfolio value will decrease (even if you have only alt-currency)