【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021)

[Sampey]

Hey Sampey

Is there a way to save your default ping pong settings?

Of Course, after log into an exchange and load markets and set ping.pong parameters : press FILE -> SAVE OPEN MARKETS PING-PONG PARAMETERS, and you will have your XML file with all option saved.

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[RenHoek]

a new Suggestion   :


if  i do not want to push a market in  down or up direction, i only bet small orders... but i often have to watch and recreate it.

so a Option to Auto recreate would be very usefull!

fe.:

buy order is 800 shitcoin -> get filled 470  -> remain 370 shitcoin to buy -> Auto recreate  -> buy order is 800 shitcoin again.  
may be Option to recreate xx max times, or recreate till buy pool is empty!  ...same with sell orders.


(or it can handled by "never create ping over xxx sat" but create ping till xxx sat are filled)

to handle that all and more, maybe a second buy/sell pool for "first Level" orders would be usefull.


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and a Option "never buy over my last sell Price" is very  necessary!

[Sampey]

if  i do not want to push a market in  down or up direction, i only bet small orders... but i often have to watch and recreate it.

so a Option to Auto recreate would be very usefull!

C.A.T. actually recreate orders every X Lookup.
If is a Ping order, C.A.t. is free to recreate at best market price (and with respect of your parameters).
If is a Pong order, C.a.T. mus guaranteed your % GAIN, but is able to auto-recreate orders.

buy order is 800 shitcoin -> get filled 470  -> remain 370 shitcoin to buy -> Auto recreate  -> buy order is 800 shitcoin again.  
may be Option to recreate xx max times, or recreate till buy pool is empty!  ...same with sell orders.

So, do you mean "Auto-recreate at original quantity x price?"
Actually C.A.T. will recreate the 370 (remain quantity) buy order

or it can handled by "never create ping over xxx sat" but create ping till xxx sat are filled

Hum....i need an example 

and a Option "never buy over my last sell Price" is very  necessary!

This is complex.
I Mean : the last sell price is the Ping Proce, the Pong Price, or the last sell price "In general"?

[RenHoek]

if  i do not want to push a market in  down or up direction, i only bet small orders... but i often have to watch and recreate it.

so a Option to Auto recreate would be very usefull!

C.A.T. actually recreate orders every X Lookup.
If is a Ping order, C.A.t. is free to recreate at best market price (and with respect of your parameters).
If is a Pong order, C.a.T. mus guaranteed your % GAIN, but is able to auto-recreate orders.

buy order is 800 shitcoin -> get filled 470  -> remain 370 shitcoin to buy -> Auto recreate  -> buy order is 800 shitcoin again.  
may be Option to recreate xx max times, or recreate till buy pool is empty!  ...same with sell orders.

So, do you mean "Auto-recreate at original quantity x price?"
Actually C.A.T. will recreate the 370 (remain quantity) buy order

yea right, recreate the orgin quantity!

or it can handled by "never create ping over xxx sat" but create ping till xxx sat are filled

Hum....i need an example  

fe.:

i want to buy 3000 shitcoin, but do not want to bet at ones, to prevent other bots overtake me :

so i create as usual  a ping buy in cat about 3000 shitcoin. ( this will add a demand of 3000 in advanced cat "first Level Pool")

in advanced cat Version, there is a new Option: "don't create ping orders total >"   i Chose here: 600

now cat will never create pings total over 600. instead it creates only one order at a Volumen of 600.


now 340 from the 600 order get filled. -> advanced cat will recreate the orgin order volume to 600.
but advanced cat will also remove 340 from the 3000 demand in the "1 Level pool"

... and again, till the "1 Level (Buy) pool" is solved.


i hope u understud now what i mean!?

and a Option "never buy over my last sell Price" is very  necessary!

This is complex.
I Mean : the last sell price is the Ping Proce, the Pong Price, or the last sell price "In general"?

yea, cat has to remember the last sell price as reference, and has to use that  Price temporaly  as "never buy over"


i think it should be possible to manage, ( i seen this Option already at a other bot)


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Edit:

a "first Level pool" will also be usefull to manage the "hidden pings" Suggestion i have made bevor!



Edit 2:

and usefull for "random orders" aswell!



Edit 3:

and a Option "never buy over my last sell Price" is very  necessary!

This is complex.
I Mean : the last sell price is the Ping Proce, the Pong Price, or the last sell price "In general"?

yea, cat has to remember the last sell price as reference, and has to use that  Price temporaly  as "never buy over"


i think it should be possible to manage, ( i seen this Option already at a other bot)

to enhance this: it would be nicer to : never buy +/- xxx Satoshi above/below last sell (pong) Price!
(and thats would be better as in strugeling other bots)  

[ewibit]

Now you can restore orders (due to crash or any other reason) from the Market Explorer with a right click on MyOrders Table

I had a crash but I don't find this option to restore orders...
where to find this?
thx

[Sampey]

Load Your orders from the Market Explorer and then select 1 or more personal orders and right click on them.

I Must update the guide, sorry 

[RenHoek]

Load Your orders from the Market Explorer and then select 1 or more personal orders and right click on them.

I Must update the guide, sorry 

 a very usefull Feature !

[ewibit]

I had a crash but I don't find this option to restore orders...
where to find this?
thx

ok this is a nice feature 

on hitbtc it is not possible to refresh the market explorer:


and it should be possible to make automatic backups of save open markets ping pong parameter every (adjustable) xx hours!
(perhaps overwriting the latest x versions)

[Sampey]

Hitbtc changes some Api format.
Not my fault, they know that if they Change api format C.A.t. won't work.

I Have fixed the problem in 2.6 Version (i will try to release Friday/Saturday)

About the Auto-Save, it is possible, i will try to add in 2.7 Version 

[cryptoholic11]

Just letting anyone who is interested that I am selling my CAT bot with Bittrex API
Please PM me if interested
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893911.msg9841671#msg9841671
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893917.msg9841710#msg9841710

[RenHoek]

Dear Sampey  

i want to ask u, to pls Review your Position to the market Tabs.

it is realy annoying to search the market u want to edit in the open markets dashboard.

even the sortet markets are Floating around if u click on one not in the lower line.
if u have open around 50 market Tabs, u always be confuse of this Situation.


maybe it is possible to add a funktion in "other markets functions" to pin the markets tab (or all opened Tabs) on ist Position even/just after sorting it. this would make the use of cat revolutionair comfortabler  


Edit:
i am thinking to buy a 3. frontend because i am not realy happy with cryptsy in last time (but more happy with the last, very stable cat version). what market do u recommend ?

[mafia]

I have a big red X next to my API connection icon. Is there a way to find out what happened and is there a way to make the connection active again?

EDIT: Oh looks like cryptsy is down?

[RenHoek]

a new Suggestion   :


if  i do not want to push a market in  down or up direction, i only bet small orders... but i often have to watch and recreate it.

so a Option to Auto recreate (edit: order volume to ist orgin) would be very usefull!

fe.:

buy order is 800 shitcoin -> get filled 470  -> remain 370 shitcoin to buy -> Auto recreate  -> buy order is 800 shitcoin again.  
may be Option to recreate xx max times, or recreate till buy pool is empty!  ...same with sell orders.


(or it can handled by "never create ping over xxx sat" but create ping till xxx sat (edit:1st Level pool) are filled)

to handle that all and more, maybe a second buy/sell pool for "first Level" orders would be usefull.


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and a Option "never buy over my last sell Price" is very  necessary!

I have  now seen, that this function would also meet the wishes from cryptoholic11.
He has to click this new Option + Chose "stop pong creation" from the pull down menu, and voila! thats it!

( ppl using different strategys on trading, so cat should be usable for as many strategys as possible! )

@cryptoholic11: do not sell your copy. i am sure sampey will respect your Needs and will do his best, to meet them in comming cat Releases!

Much more efficient and faster...as soon as one order gets filled, another order gets placed.

Is placed at what price? Current Market Price??

Youre misunderstanding me. What I am saying is simple...Lets say you want to buy some 200 SDC at 0.00018 and the order gets filled. Instead of putting that 200 SDC to sell, CAT leaves it alone and puts another 200  buy order at 0.00018 or whatever price range the parameters are set. So instead of buying and selling, CAT just keeps buying. THe same option can apply to selling only.

You are probably thinking why not just manually on the exchanges put 1 big order or a many orders around that price range, and the reason for this is that accumulation is much more difficult this way. Once traders see a lot of buy support, they put orders of their own and as a result your orders dont fill, especially if the price is already near a bottom.
Same concept applies towards selling. If I want to sell my coins, I am better off putting small orders 1 at a time instead of just put huge sell orders because most often this creates panic dumps and more sell pressure, as a result the big orders most likely wont fill, especially if the price has reached a ceiling or peak.

and ... if u decide to add a first Level pool, u could also add a 2nd Level pool, to manage the pong orders, for add a Funktion "never create pong orders < x" !  

i seen, u are a very good programmer, i think u are able to do this!  
maybe some work, but it willl hive cat to a new high Level!

Ok, if you think this is a good idea, i will add in the 2.3 or 2.4  

yea, This is necessary!  

and we Need a sulution for the pong Problem... maybe it is possible to Programm a adjustable buffer  value  (like a temp pool ) to get a min pong sell Volumen!?

maybe the way is:

ping is 100 -> sell 1 , sell 1, another sell 1 and so on...

we dont want many  pongs with 1 it should be (adjustable) min 10...

so as usual ,  let cat with the first sell, create pong  with 1 . After second sell 1 -> recreate the pong 1+1 and so on, till the pong is risded to 10. With the elevent sell 1 , cat should create a second pong, becouse the last pong has rised to min volume and fill it till 10 ... and so on.

or

let cat create a pool with volume min 10, after it is filled with min 10 let cat create pong from pool.

this would be just a buffer and should be easy programable  

I agree. Just purchased. Nice program. But the lack of this feature really makes it near impossible to use. You really have to watch it, all markets, all the time.

Strato

[mafia]

Would you add a function to only create Ping order when Buy/Sell difference is n%, and the n% can be different to the % min guaranteed gain.

would this be possible? is it already possible?

[micax1]

IF many users wants it why not?

Are you going to support BTC38? I`m definitely a buyer of this plugin

[Sampey]

Hum well i don't know how many people are interested in BTC38 

[GENiALi]

Hi

I'm a new C.A.T user and I've two questions.

1.
C.A.T runs now 22 hours. C.A.T work on 10 markets. with total ~1BTC starts. Two days ago I start C.A.T first time. After 48 hours was my gain 7$. Yesterday I've change all parameter. Now, in 22 hours, my gain was total 22$.
Are $ 22 in 22 hours much, or normal average or a low gain?

2.
I am not sure how to stop CAT correct. I've 106 open orders.  What I do the best with this open orders?
Simply close it or there are better ways what I do with this orders?

[merg357]

Hi

I have had this running now for like 2 weeks straight on bittrix and cryptsy, my cumulative balance always shows a positive but my overall btc balance continues to drop.....any ideas on where i am going wrong? is there any manual to this for the proper settings that I overlooked?

Please help as right now, this is just sucking money....

[andycee]

C.A.T. gain sheets show ONLY successful gains made from COMPLETED ping pongs. Don't take these figures as too much of an indication of how well you are doing.

You need to take into account balances that have been bought and are waiting to be sold AT THE CURRENT BEST MARKET VALUE. If you have a lot of these, for instance from buying at too high a price, or where the market has dropped, then your overall BTC balance/value will be a lot less.

Take more notice of your exchanges Account Balance reading, though this is also not totally accurate. I think Cryptsy for example takes this balance as an accumulation of your orders at the order price, not in fact at the actual current best market price at this moment.

Your main aim with C.A.T. should be to ride with the market but put some stops in place to avoid buying too high which can be achieved with limits and the Min % Gain setting.



Speaking of the latter Sampey, are you going to address the fact that Min % Gain is not checked retrospectively ? I have asked before....

Simple scenario....Min % Gain set to 4%....market buy is at 99, sell is at 105 so a order is placed (4% gain possible on buy@100 sell @104). Market starts to fall and sell drops to 102. Min % Gain is now 1%, but C.A.T. does not check this after the initial order is placed. Order gets executed with buy@100 when you probably didn't want it to.

A simple addition....

[RenHoek]

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Speaking of the latter Sampey, are you going to address the fact that Min % Gain is not checked retrospectively ? I have asked before....

Simple scenario....Min % Gain set to 4%....market buy is at 99, sell is at 105 so a order is placed (4% gain possible on buy@100 sell @104). Market starts to fall and sell drops to 102. Min % Gain is now 1%, but C.A.T. does not check this after the initial order is placed. Order gets executed with buy@100 when you probably didn't want it to.

A simple addition....

good point! cat seems not able to "move orders backwards" !?
here also a "first Level pool" may help. cat can just discard/suspend orders when ist not in "min gain Position", and recreate it from the "1 Level pool" on lower Price or at same Price when the "min gain spread" is given again.

or it can handeld by 2 min gains as it "mafia" suggested:

Would you add a function to only create Ping order when Buy/Sell difference is n%, and the n% can be different to the % min guaranteed gain.

would this be possible? is it already possible?

min gain 1 can be the min dif between my ping order and the best sell, min gain 2 can be a lower number for pong sell.