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December 24, 2020, 04:23:38 PM
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Dinesh Karthik was in the team for a long time and he is in and out of the team because of Dhoni cementing his place and Rishabh Pant came into the team recently on back of some good innings in the junior tournaments. Yuzvendra Chahal also debuted in recent times as they replaced Ashwin and Jadeja combination with another left arm spinner.

Why can't India follow the system in England and Australia, where the coach/captain doesn't have the monopoly in team selection? As long as the selected players perform consistently, no one is going to complain. The issue arises when players such as Siraj gets selected ahead of the other well deserving players and they are unable to perform. Anyway, two days to go for the second test match and let's see how the Indian team perform.
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December 24, 2020, 04:56:00 PM
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It's not like rivalry. Both Dhoni and Kohli had different preferences for the national team selection. Dhoni would prefer players such as Kedar Jadhav and Dinesh Karthik, who play for CSK or India Cements. On the other hand, Kohli is said to have a preference for RCB/Delhi players, such as Rishabh Pant and Yuzvendra Chahal. Also, both of them support opposing camps in the BCCI. Dhoni is considered as a N Srinivasan loyalist, while Kohli supports the other side.
Dinesh Karthik was in the team for a long time and he is in and out of the team because of Dhoni cementing his place and Rishabh Pant came into the team recently on back of some good innings in the junior tournaments. Yuzvendra Chahal also debuted in recent times as they replaced Ashwin and Jadeja combination with another left arm spinner.

For now more focus will be on Rishabh Pant as he is just 23 and Dinesh Karthik is already 35 so may play for another couple of years. But in last few years Dinesh Karthik has being a good finisher and have ability to maintain calm under pressure and can hit six on last balls of innings while chasing the score which not everybody can do it. Rishabh has a long way to go and if he can prove consistency and gather behind the wickets cleanly, he will have more often his place fixed in the team squad. 

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December 24, 2020, 06:20:20 PM
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It's not like rivalry. Both Dhoni and Kohli had different preferences for the national team selection. Dhoni would prefer players such as Kedar Jadhav and Dinesh Karthik, who play for CSK or India Cements. On the other hand, Kohli is said to have a preference for RCB/Delhi players, such as Rishabh Pant and Yuzvendra Chahal. Also, both of them support opposing camps in the BCCI. Dhoni is considered as a N Srinivasan loyalist, while Kohli supports the other side.
Dinesh Karthik was in the team for a long time and he is in and out of the team because of Dhoni cementing his place and Rishabh Pant came into the team recently on back of some good innings in the junior tournaments. Yuzvendra Chahal also debuted in recent times as they replaced Ashwin and Jadeja combination with another left arm spinner.

For now more focus will be on Rishabh Pant as he is just 23 and Dinesh Karthik is already 35 so may play for another couple of years. But in last few years Dinesh Karthik has being a good finisher and have ability to maintain calm under pressure and can hit six on last balls of innings while chasing the score which not everybody can do it. Rishabh has a long way to go and if he can prove consistency and gather behind the wickets cleanly, he will have more often his place fixed in the team squad. 

Dinesh Karthik could be in the Indian team for a few more years. Rishabh Pant is young now. Now Dinesh Karthik is in form, I think it would be wise to use him properly at this moment. He is a good finisher. He can take the helm of the team if necessary like Dhoni. At this moment, Rishabh Pant will be able to better adapt to the Indian team

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December 24, 2020, 07:05:23 PM
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To me Dhoni and Kohli relationship looks like Guru-chela instead of any sort of rivalry. Kohli-Rohit rivalry seems more logical tho.

These rivalries popped up after the IPL came in to existence. Before the IPL, there were no reports of senior players forming separate camps within the national team. After IPL was started, some of the senior players started showing more loyalty to their IPL franchise rather than the national team, and the franchise owners started behaving as if they are more powerful than the BCCI president. The despicable behavior by N Srinivasan, when Raina decided to travel back to India as a result of family emergency is a perfect example.
Arey camps and rivalry were always there sir ji, even in the old days. Kapil-Gavaskar was famous one. Dhoni-Yuvraj-Sehwag was another one. Its just that nowadays we get to hear more about it due to social media.


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December 24, 2020, 10:02:38 PM
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Dinesh Karthik could be in the Indian team for a few more years. Rishabh Pant is young now. Now Dinesh Karthik is in form, I think it would be wise to use him properly at this moment. He is a good finisher. He can take the helm of the team if necessary like Dhoni. At this moment, Rishabh Pant will be able to better adapt to the Indian team
Dinesh Karthik is not in the team for this Australian tour and he is a talented player and if you look like that then KL Rahul is another talented player who is a wicket keeper as well and he performed well in the IPL. The problem with Rishabh Pant is that he dropped catches as a wicket keeper in the past series and he should improve his wicket keeping skills. Pant played well in the warm up match but i doubt he could replicate that kind of innings in the international level.
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December 25, 2020, 04:00:09 AM
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Dinesh Karthik is not in the team for this Australian tour and he is a talented player and if you look like that then KL Rahul is another talented player who is a wicket keeper as well and he performed well in the IPL. The problem with Rishabh Pant is that he dropped catches as a wicket keeper in the past series and he should improve his wicket keeping skills. Pant played well in the warm up match but i doubt he could replicate that kind of innings in the international level.

Why there is even a discussion on Dinesh Karthik? His performance during the IPL 2020 was pathetic, and he managed just one half century from more than a dozen matches. And he hasn't played any first-class matches for almost a year now. If BCCI is looking for a wicket keeper batsman, then the future lies with players such as Rishabh Pant, Sanju Samson and Ishan Kishan, and not with oldies such as Dinesh Karthik and Saha.

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December 25, 2020, 06:18:43 AM
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Dinesh Karthik was in the team for a long time and he is in and out of the team because of Dhoni cementing his place and Rishabh Pant came into the team recently on back of some good innings in the junior tournaments. Yuzvendra Chahal also debuted in recent times as they replaced Ashwin and Jadeja combination with another left arm spinner.

Why can't India follow the system in England and Australia, where the coach/captain doesn't have the monopoly in team selection? As long as the selected players perform consistently, no one is going to complain. The issue arises when players such as Siraj gets selected ahead of the other well deserving players and they are unable to perform. Anyway, two days to go for the second test match and let's see how the Indian team perform.

I didn't know about this inside politics within the indian team but if it is true then it will not be good for the indian team. Good teams are strong from inside and therefore they are able to compete with the other teams. If you keep on involving in the issues within the team, then the team cannot produce good results.
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December 25, 2020, 06:38:55 PM
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Dinesh Karthik was in the team for a long time and he is in and out of the team because of Dhoni cementing his place and Rishabh Pant came into the team recently on back of some good innings in the junior tournaments. Yuzvendra Chahal also debuted in recent times as they replaced Ashwin and Jadeja combination with another left arm spinner.

Why can't India follow the system in England and Australia, where the coach/captain doesn't have the monopoly in team selection? As long as the selected players perform consistently, no one is going to complain. The issue arises when players such as Siraj gets selected ahead of the other well deserving players and they are unable to perform. Anyway, two days to go for the second test match and let's see how the Indian team perform.

I didn't know about this inside politics within the indian team but if it is true then it will not be good for the indian team. Good teams are strong from inside and therefore they are able to compete with the other teams. If you keep on involving in the issues within the team, then the team cannot produce good results.
Politics are everywhere especially in the sports field, this is not only happening in Indian cricket board the same issue ruined the South Africa and Pakistan cricket teams in the international standards but still India managed to come up with good players but not every talented player is getting their opportunity.
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December 26, 2020, 03:29:13 AM
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Politics are everywhere especially in the sports field, this is not only happening in Indian cricket board the same issue ruined the South Africa and Pakistan cricket teams in the international standards but still India managed to come up with good players but not every talented player is getting their opportunity.

At least the BCCI is nominally independent, while the boards in South Africa, Sri Lanka.etc are being run by government proxies. Saurav Ganguly (BCCI president) is an ex-India national team captain, while most of the other cricket boards are being headed by people with hardly any connection with cricket. Anyway, what is the point when the ICC chairman himself doesn't have any cricketing connection.

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December 26, 2020, 05:41:36 AM
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Dinesh Karthik was in the team for a long time and he is in and out of the team because of Dhoni cementing his place and Rishabh Pant came into the team recently on back of some good innings in the junior tournaments. Yuzvendra Chahal also debuted in recent times as they replaced Ashwin and Jadeja combination with another left arm spinner.

Why can't India follow the system in England and Australia, where the coach/captain doesn't have the monopoly in team selection? As long as the selected players perform consistently, no one is going to complain. The issue arises when players such as Siraj gets selected ahead of the other well deserving players and they are unable to perform. Anyway, two days to go for the second test match and let's see how the Indian team perform.

I didn't know about this inside politics within the indian team but if it is true then it will not be good for the indian team. Good teams are strong from inside and therefore they are able to compete with the other teams. If you keep on involving in the issues within the team, then the team cannot produce good results.
Politics are everywhere especially in the sports field, this is not only happening in Indian cricket board the same issue ruined the South Africa and Pakistan cricket teams in the international standards but still India managed to come up with good players but not every talented player is getting their opportunity.

But we never heard of any politics in Australian cricket board or in England cricket board because they have a proper system where players are selected on their performances only and there are no favors for anyone. Those boards who are unable to overcome these politics, their team will go down in performance.
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I didn't know about this inside politics within the indian team but if it is true then it will not be good for the indian team. Good teams are strong from inside and therefore they are able to compete with the other teams. If you keep on involving in the issues within the team, then the team cannot produce good results.
Politics are everywhere especially in the sports field, this is not only happening in Indian cricket board the same issue ruined the South Africa and Pakistan cricket teams in the international standards but still India managed to come up with good players but not every talented player is getting their opportunity.

But we never heard of any politics in Australian cricket board or in England cricket board because they have a proper system where players are selected on their performances only and there are no favors for anyone. Those boards who are unable to overcome these politics, their team will go down in performance.
Once team starting losing badly or set new low standard, only after that political drama and scrutiny pops up. No team or sport is immune to this.

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I didn't know about this inside politics within the indian team but if it is true then it will not be good for the indian team. Good teams are strong from inside and therefore they are able to compete with the other teams. If you keep on involving in the issues within the team, then the team cannot produce good results.
Politics are everywhere especially in the sports field, this is not only happening in Indian cricket board the same issue ruined the South Africa and Pakistan cricket teams in the international standards but still India managed to come up with good players but not every talented player is getting their opportunity.

But we never heard of any politics in Australian cricket board or in England cricket board because they have a proper system where players are selected on their performances only and there are no favors for anyone. Those boards who are unable to overcome these politics, their team will go down in performance.
Once team starting losing badly or set new low standard, only after that political drama and scrutiny pops up. No team or sport is immune to this.

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Sydney Thunder won by 129 runs.Very dominating victory by Sydney over Melbourne. Tanveer Sangha bowled really well and picked up 4 wickets for 14.

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Sydney Thunder won by 129 runs.Very dominating victory by Sydney over Melbourne. Tanveer Sangha bowled really well and picked up 4 wickets for 14.
An extraordinary win. Every player in the Sydney Thunder has contributed to the team's victory. Everyone expects such a great innings on the T20 formet. Melnourne Renegades' batting has been a disaster. I hope they will play better in the next match.

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I didn't know about this inside politics within the indian team but if it is true then it will not be good for the indian team. Good teams are strong from inside and therefore they are able to compete with the other teams. If you keep on involving in the issues within the team, then the team cannot produce good results.
Even i am not aware of the inside politics or policies and how they are picking the team. There is no doubt that they have abundant of talents as displayed in the IPL and that performance alone might not translate to ODI and Test cricket caliber and consistencies and you cannot expect every player to be proficient in the T20 format. The problem i see with them is the team selection and one pathetic defeat and they were forced to replace four players.

Either they need to provide ample time to the young players and see whether they can rise to the occasion before putting extra pressure to the young player.   
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But we never heard of any politics in Australian cricket board or in England cricket board because they have a proper system where players are selected on their performances only and there are no favors for anyone. Those boards who are unable to overcome these politics, their team will go down in performance.
You are right.We can look at Zimbabwe and Pakistan as examples. The Zimbabwean team played great at one time. But now Afghanistan will easily lose them too. The Pakistan team was earlier compared to the first tier team. Now they have no glory like before.

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You are right.We can look at Zimbabwe and Pakistan as examples. The Zimbabwean team played great at one time. But now Afghanistan will easily lose them too. The Pakistan team was earlier compared to the first tier team. Now they have no glory like before.
You cannot compare the team as Zimbabwe lost their top players due to political reasons and Afghanistan has one of the best spinners in world cricket in Rashid Khan and he will easily fit into any team in the world because of his bowling skills and if a team has a player like that then they can win matches. I still believe that Pakistan has a formidable team in their home soil and we are yet to see a series due to security reasons for over a decade and once that is sorted out we could see them perform well in their own backyard.
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But we never heard of any politics in Australian cricket board or in England cricket board because they have a proper system where players are selected on their performances only and there are no favors for anyone. Those boards who are unable to overcome these politics, their team will go down in performance.
You are right.We can look at Zimbabwe and Pakistan as examples. The Zimbabwean team played great at one time. But now Afghanistan will easily lose them too. The Pakistan team was earlier compared to the first tier team. Now they have no glory like before.
Even now Pakistan is one among the first tier team list. Nowadays the performance from Pakistan players weren't that good, and no one is able to make a confident play in Pakistan. We can see the lack of experience, and if I'm not wrong the team is much disturbed with politics. This can be between the players as well as the political influence. This means the able candidates are yet away from the team.

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10 Teams IPL is about to come in 2022 season.

They should have done this from IPL 2021 onward. I always thought that 8 was too low. In England they have 18, and there is no reason why India shouldn't have the same number of teams, as the player pool is comparatively much larger. Anyway, 10 will do for now. But they need to increase the limit on overseas players to 5 per team, and remove the salary cap.

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December 27, 2020, 04:02:59 AM
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10 Teams IPL is about to come in 2022 season.

They should have done this from IPL 2021 onward. I always thought that 8 was too low. In England they have 18, and there is no reason why India shouldn't have the same number of teams, as the player pool is comparatively much larger. Anyway, 10 will do for now. But they need to increase the limit on overseas players to 5 per team, and remove the salary cap.

Few months back IPL 2020 ended and in just a couple of month IPL 2021 will start. It will be too early for these two new teams to get everything done. Therefore they will start from 2022 because of time constraints.

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