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November 11, 2020, 09:35:37 AM
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Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant were able to score half-centuries only because they were facing the MI spinners. Bumrah and Boult had finished their first spell, when these two came to bat. So they were mostly facing Krunal Pandya and the inexperienced Jayant Yadav. Overall, it was a very disappointing innings from DC. They had to get to a total of 180, and they fell short by a long distance.
Jayant Yadav bowled exceptionally well and he was getting purchase from the wicket as well and the wicket he got where Dhawan played the wrong line entirely and it was a beautiful ball and i thought MI would have gone with Bumrah for one more over and that wicket happened and he bowled an economical spell. Shreyas Iyer played well and whenever he scored runs his strike rate was not that high and that was another factor which hurt the team.
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November 11, 2020, 11:12:17 AM
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Jayant Yadav bowled exceptionally well and he was getting purchase from the wicket as well and the wicket he got where Dhawan played the wrong line entirely and it was a beautiful ball and i thought MI would have gone with Bumrah for one more over and that wicket happened and he bowled an economical spell. Shreyas Iyer played well and whenever he scored runs his strike rate was not that high and that was another factor which hurt the team.

Both Iyer and Pant were in good form during the start of this season's IPL. But during the second half of the tournament, they were struggling to score runs and none of them could manage to make 50 plus scores. It was good to see them getting back to form in the final match. And regarding Bumrah, once again he proved that he's the best out there. He was the best bowler in this IPL, and that too by a distance.
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November 11, 2020, 01:08:02 PM
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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments.  Tongue

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November 11, 2020, 01:15:14 PM
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The game was much competitive than I thought. Winning the toss and choosing to bat is an axe at owns leg in a T20 match.
Iyer and Pant did tried to bring a competitive score for Delhi Capitals but the team didn't tried anything different than what they had done in all of their losing match with Mumbai Indians. It's a record performance by Delhi Capitals but it's the winners that would be remembered for long. Mumbai Indians rising to the most successful team in IPL history.
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November 11, 2020, 01:39:26 PM
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The game was much competitive than I thought. Winning the toss and choosing to bat is an axe at owns leg in a T20 match.
Iyer and Pant did tried to bring a competitive score for Delhi Capitals but the team didn't tried anything different than what they had done in all of their losing match with Mumbai Indians. It's a record performance by Delhi Capitals but it's the winners that would be remembered for long. Mumbai Indians rising to the most successful team in IPL history.
First 4 overs was really game changer for DC because they lost their key players even Iyer and Pant done some good job at the end but this was really poor from their top order and at the end they was short of 20 to 25 runs which give some good advantage to MI as they also have very good batting line up so now its all end with very entertaining match and Congrats to MI for 5th trophy.
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November 11, 2020, 03:54:11 PM
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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments.  Tongue
Rohit Sharma is far ahead of Virat Kohli in the t20 format. If we consider both of them as batsmen, then at present both of them are one of the best players in the world. Both played very well. I think Rohit Sharma will definitely be ahead if he is considered as a captain. He succeeded by captaining the ipl. He should be given a chance to captain the international game.
Currently in presence of Virat Kohli its not going to happen because he is already doing this job good and in Australia he is also going to play both short term formats just not available for few test matches and Rohit is already not in test team may be in near future this happen if Kohlie need rest or not available for any reason.
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November 11, 2020, 04:28:30 PM
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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments.  Tongue
Rohit Sharma is far ahead of Virat Kohli in the t20 format. If we consider both of them as batsmen, then at present both of them are one of the best players in the world. Both played very well. I think Rohit Sharma will definitely be ahead if he is considered as a captain. He succeeded by captaining the ipl. He should be given a chance to captain the international game.
On one hand BCCI select team on basis of IPL performance but there is zero contest when its comes to Captaincy. BCCI believes that 1 captain should lead the national team in all 3 format, it used to make sense before but in modern cricket its tough task to ask if we consider workload of international player, hope some sense prevails in BCCI.

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November 11, 2020, 04:43:23 PM
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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments.  Tongue
Rohit Sharma is far ahead of Virat Kohli in the t20 format. If we consider both of them as batsmen, then at present both of them are one of the best players in the world. Both played very well. I think Rohit Sharma will definitely be ahead if he is considered as a captain. He succeeded by captaining the ipl. He should be given a chance to captain the international game.
Currently in presence of Virat Kohli its not going to happen because he is already doing this job good and in Australia he is also going to play both short term formats just not available for few test matches and Rohit is already not in test team may be in near future this happen if Kohlie need rest or not available for any reason.
I also think that as long as virat kohli is there, he will be the captain in t20 format too. He is a living legend in the Indian team. As a batsman he is the best.He is also excellent as a captain. Although he is not as experienced as Dhoni. But we all have to accept that he is a good captain. I don't think there is any need to give Rohit Sharma a chance to captain as long as Kohli is performing poorly or if he does not go on a long break.

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November 11, 2020, 05:25:23 PM
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The game was much competitive than I thought. Winning the toss and choosing to bat is an axe at owns leg in a T20 match.
Iyer and Pant did tried to bring a competitive score for Delhi Capitals but the team didn't tried anything different than what they had done in all of their losing match with Mumbai Indians. It's a record performance by Delhi Capitals but it's the winners that would be remembered for long. Mumbai Indians rising to the most successful team in IPL history.
First 4 overs was really game changer for DC because they lost their key players even Iyer and Pant done some good job at the end but this was really poor from their top order and at the end they was short of 20 to 25 runs which give some good advantage to MI as they also have very good batting line up so now its all end with very entertaining match and Congrats to MI for 5th trophy.

MI are champions and Rohit knows how to make it win and perform well in the finals . This quality has helped them as a unit and each players delivers when it is required . I think this time their would not be any after party due to pandemic which generally happens at their house after winning the trophy where entire staff is present .

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November 11, 2020, 05:43:06 PM
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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments.  Tongue
There is another food for thought, Virat Kohli has a big ego and will he be willing to step down as captain Grin. Rohit Sharma had a better team and the bowlers they had were the trump card and they had a really strong middle order who can strike at over 150 and if Virat Kohli was leading the MI even they will be winning the tournament as they had the best team combination.
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November 12, 2020, 04:12:01 AM
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There is another food for thought, Virat Kohli has a big ego and will he be willing to step down as captain Grin. Rohit Sharma had a better team and the bowlers they had were the trump card and they had a really strong middle order who can strike at over 150 and if Virat Kohli was leading the MI even they will be winning the tournament as they had the best team combination.

Have to agree with at least some of the points here. There is no doubt that MI was the strongest team in this IPL. They had world class bowlers such as Jasprit Bumrah and Trent Boult, and promising batsmen such as Ishan Kishan. I don't think that they could have fared worse, if Virat was the captain. On the other hand, RCB was a relatively weak and inexperienced team if you remove the 2-3 world class players such as Virat and AB de Villiers.
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November 12, 2020, 04:52:33 AM
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You are right. It is really difficult for a player to captain in 3 formats. 3 captains should be selected for 3 formats, or one captain should be selected for Test and Odi and separate captain for T20. Because t20 game is completely different from ODI and test matches. Here you have to play very fast and make decisions very quickly. If there is any mistake in making a decision, there is a possibility of losing the match.

Not sure about this. "3 captains for 3 formats" is a relatively recent phenomenon. Earlier most of the teams were having the same captain for all the formats. I think it was England which first experimented with different captains. That said, I never felt that it is necessary to have different captains. If a player is equally good in all the formats, then why can't he become the permanent captain?

This has been going on for quite sometime now but as you mentioned it did not work out for England earlier the same will happen in the future. Some cricket veterans have been idle for sometime now and to come into the limelight they come up with intersting theories like this sounds more like a PR gimmick.

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November 12, 2020, 05:03:09 AM
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This has been going on for quite sometime now but as you mentioned it did not work out for England earlier the same will happen in the future. Some cricket veterans have been idle for sometime now and to come into the limelight they come up with intersting theories like this sounds more like a PR gimmick.

Earlier most of the boards would pick the same players for all the formats, with a few exceptions. But now that is not the case. They have separate sets of players for all the three formats. Some of the boards have one set of players for test matches and ODIs, while another set for the T20Is. Overall, this is beneficial for the players as it gives more opportunities to the younger players and makes sure that the key players are not overburdened.
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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments.  Tongue
There is another food for thought, Virat Kohli has a big ego and will he be willing to step down as captain Grin. Rohit Sharma had a better team and the bowlers they had were the trump card and they had a really strong middle order who can strike at over 150 and if Virat Kohli was leading the MI even they will be winning the tournament as they had the best team combination.
On context of better team..

Mumbai stick with more or less same pattern as a team, they back their individual players, unlike RCB. There was a time when likes of Starc, Chris Woakes, Tim Southee, , Coline de grandhomme, Gayle, Quinton De Cock, Shimron Hetmeyer, Marcus Stonis, Travis Head, Chris Jordan, KL Rahul etc were in the team. 1-2 bad season and they are out, that's not how you build a winning combination.

I have no doubt that If Virat was leading the MI then they wouldn't have make into any Playoff or Finals similar to RCB. Virat is Panuti  Tongue Grin

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You are right. It is really difficult for a player to captain in 3 formats. 3 captains should be selected for 3 formats, or one captain should be selected for Test and Odi and separate captain for T20.
Not sure about this. "3 captains for 3 formats" is a relatively recent phenomenon.

Not 3 but 2 Captain. 1 for Limited over cricket (T-20/ODI) and 1 for Test Cricket.

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November 12, 2020, 07:09:49 AM
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In the end of DC's innings, they have scored 157 runs. I think DC is in safe zone now. They lost early wickets, they lost Stoinis, Dhawan and Rahane in 4 overs. I don't think anyone thought that Delhi capital would be able to target so many runs. Thanks to Lyre and Pant. Their great partnership has brought such a large collection to DC.

There are many good batsmen in the MI's squad. Such as de kock, Rohit Sharma, Pollard and Pandya. They all played terribly well in the t20 format. Let's see who wins the title this time.  Cool


Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

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Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.
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November 12, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
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Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.

You are correct, as MI bowled well to restrict them to just 36 runs in last 5 overs where they had still 6 wickets left. This would have given some relief as the chase was under 8 an over and the way Rohit started his innings seemed he was set for the target to chase easily and it happened the same. But overall was a good match but not really a tough final that would have expected.

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November 12, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
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After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.
The failure was the Delhi Capitals top order, when you loose 3 wickets for 22 runs then the rest of the players try to play safe so that they will not loose further wickets and then the pressure to score aggressively in a later stage is not easy, a couple of wickets and their tail will be exposed. With the strong batting line up MI had any addition of runs will not make a difference considering the start they got. 
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Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.

You are correct, as MI bowled well to restrict them to just 36 runs in last 5 overs where they had still 6 wickets left. This would have given some relief as the chase was under 8 an over and the way Rohit started his innings seemed he was set for the target to chase easily and it happened the same. But overall was a good match but not really a tough final that would have expected.

Death bowling I think has always been the strength of Mumbai Indians. I think the few matches that Mumbai lost were actually the ones in which their death bowling failed. Bumrah has become such a dreadful bowler. Boult too got his rhythm in the later part of the tournament. I think Mumbai Indians have invested pretty wisely on their players. They have Rohit, Pollard, Hardik, Krunal and Bumrah since 2013. All they do is pickup a few good foreign players a form a team around these 5 people who are their core. Luckily for them all of these players deliver at the end in some way or the other.
After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.
The failure was the Delhi Capitals top order, when you loose 3 wickets for 22 runs then the rest of the players try to play safe so that they will not loose further wickets and then the pressure to score aggressively in a later stage is not easy, a couple of wickets and their tail will be exposed. With the strong batting line up MI had any addition of runs will not make a difference considering the start they got. 
After losing their top 3 batsmen by only 22 runs, no one thought they could score 157 runs. I even thought they would lose all their wickets in 120 runs. Lyre and Pants played much better. Finally, if Hetmyre could add some runs to the scoreboard then maybe DC would be able to score more than 170 runs. The final match was not competitive. Everyone thought MI would be the champion, and they got the title.
I think if we see only the second half of the tournament Delhi didn't really deserved the title in any way. They performed pretty badly in second half. There were other teams who performed much better. I expected SRH to reach the finals as they played much better in the later half. All on all I felt matches in the later half of the IPL much less thrilling.
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November 12, 2020, 10:29:53 PM
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I was feeling now we have some Bore time as no match coming in next few weeks but after checking schedule now have some good news as on Sunday we have two good and entertaining twenty/20 matches first is going to played between Multan Sultans vs Karachi Kings starting time here on forum time 10 AM and second match is going to played between Lahore Qalanders vs Peshawar Zalmi 2:30 PM here on forum time its really worth to watch these matches even few International players not coming due to Corona but still we will have good entertaining cricket from these teams.
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