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August 05, 2022, 12:40:13 PM
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LOL.. another defeat for Netherlands and everyone congratulating them saying how well they played.  Grin

Trust me. Netherlands won't be able to win against pig-4 sides, unless they are able to include their star players in the squad. At this point, most of their first choice players (Timm van der Gugten, Fred Klaassen, Roelof van der Merwe.etc) are busy playing county cricket in England. Some of the younger Dutch players have finally started to deliver (especially Bas de Leede and Tim Pringle), and among the senior players Scott Edwards and Logan van Beek have performed consistently. But still half of the squad is there just to make up the numbers and they won't be able to win matches unless this situation changes.

I don't want to congratulate the Netherlands team. The Netherlands team is comparatively less strong than New Zealand, we know that. But the Netherlands should have won by batting only for 149 runs. Their performance was poor from the beginning of the innings. The Netherlands lost three wickets for just 15 runs. Netherlands could have won this match if the batsmen could bat a bit more responsibly. Although there are several talented players in the Netherlands, they are not interested in playing for the national team. The Netherlands board should increase the opportunities for the national team players. As a result, players are more interested in playing for the national team.
That's your personal opinion. There is always difference between a team positioned 6th and 17th at the ICC T20 rankings. A match in which the result have come closer makes the cricket fans support Netherlands for their performance. As mentioned very few players have contributed good, which shows the lack of experience. In the coming games this can help them to improve their performance.

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August 05, 2022, 12:45:35 PM
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It would be right to say, Suryakumar Yadav Indian's most flexible T20 hitter right now? After playing 22nd match Suryakumar take the second position at T20 ranking. Another revolution of Indian cricket, illustration of classic and aggressive batting. No doubt talented player, still he needs to demonstrate more. There are many expresses that with only one great inning, he received sky touching praises. He shouldn't really mind those discussions, however need more consistency to hold that status. If he played every match consistent then certainly he will be a dangerous player.
T20 cricket is very much uncertain, just an example for you to understand that if a batter perform in a given day their is no guarantee that he will perform to his best in the next match. Surya Kumar is a good batter but there is a lot of competition within the peer group. Rishab Panth, Shreyas Iyer and Hooda are also very good batters. You can not conclude to based on T20 ICC rankings. If he is unable to play or score for few matches he will then lose his position.

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August 05, 2022, 01:12:58 PM
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It would be right to say, Suryakumar Yadav Indian's most flexible T20 hitter right now? After playing 22nd match Suryakumar take the second position at T20 ranking. Another revolution of Indian cricket, illustration of classic and aggressive batting. No doubt talented player, still he needs to demonstrate more. There are many expresses that with only one great inning, he received sky touching praises. He shouldn't really mind those discussions, however need more consistency to hold that status. If he played every match consistent then certainly he will be a dangerous player.
T20 cricket is very much uncertain, just an example for you to understand that if a batter perform in a given day their is no guarantee that he will perform to his best in the next match. Surya Kumar is a good batter but there is a lot of competition within the peer group. Rishab Panth, Shreyas Iyer and Hooda are also very good batters. You can not conclude to based on T20 ICC rankings. If he is unable to play or score for few matches he will then lose his position.

I agree with you. The Indian board now has a lot of talented players. And batsmen need to play better than bowlers in the T20 format. So if a batsman is not able to perform well in a few matches consistently then the management will definitely look for his alternative. Moreover, India now has many options. So if any player is not able to play consistently well then it is not possible to stay with the squad in the T20 format.

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August 05, 2022, 02:18:32 PM
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It would be right to say, Suryakumar Yadav Indian's most flexible T20 hitter right now? After playing 22nd match Suryakumar take the second position at T20 ranking. Another revolution of Indian cricket, illustration of classic and aggressive batting. No doubt talented player, still he needs to demonstrate more. There are many expresses that with only one great inning, he received sky touching praises. He shouldn't really mind those discussions, however need more consistency to hold that status. If he played every match consistent then certainly he will be a dangerous player.
T20 cricket is very much uncertain, just an example for you to understand that if a batter perform in a given day their is no guarantee that he will perform to his best in the next match. Surya Kumar is a good batter but there is a lot of competition within the peer group. Rishab Panth, Shreyas Iyer and Hooda are also very good batters. You can not conclude to based on T20 ICC rankings. If he is unable to play or score for few matches he will then lose his position.
These few names are fixed in team roaster

1. Rohit - opener
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3. Kohli - 1st, 2nd down
4. SKY - 1st, 2nd down
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6. Hardik - Batting allrounder
7.
8. Jadeja- Spin all rounder
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10.
11. Bumrah - seamer

We have 3 candidates for 2nd opener ( Rahul-Gill- Kishan). Competition is tough for number 5th slot and Shreyas Iyer is lagging atm because he's vulnerable against short ball, everyone seems to exploit his weakness so his chances looks slim to me. Even Pant is lagging in modern T-20 but management is backing him. Hard to fit everyone in playing XI.

We have many bowlers so this would be very tough. I think they will opt for Seam allrounders like Chahar, Harshal Patel etc so that they can bat deep. 
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August 05, 2022, 03:21:37 PM
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It would be right to say, Suryakumar Yadav Indian's most flexible T20 hitter right now? After playing 22nd match Suryakumar take the second position at T20 ranking. Another revolution of Indian cricket, illustration of classic and aggressive batting. No doubt talented player, still he needs to demonstrate more. There are many expresses that with only one great inning, he received sky touching praises. He shouldn't really mind those discussions, however need more consistency to hold that status. If he played every match consistent then certainly he will be a dangerous player.
T20 cricket is very much uncertain, just an example for you to understand that if a batter perform in a given day their is no guarantee that he will perform to his best in the next match. Surya Kumar is a good batter but there is a lot of competition within the peer group. Rishab Panth, Shreyas Iyer and Hooda are also very good batters. You can not conclude to based on T20 ICC rankings. If he is unable to play or score for few matches he will then lose his position.
These few names are fixed in team roaster
1. Rohit - opener
2.
3. Kohli - 1st, 2nd down
4. SKY - 1st, 2nd down
5.
6. Hardik - Batting allrounder
7.
8. Jadeja- Spin all rounder
9.
10.
11. Bumrah - seamer


We have 3 candidates for 2nd opener ( Rahul-Gill- Kishan). Competition is tough for number 5th slot and Shreyas Iyer is lagging atm because he's vulnerable against short ball, everyone seems to exploit his weakness so his chances looks slim to me. Even Pant is lagging in modern T-20 but management is backing him. Hard to fit everyone in playing XI.

We have many bowlers so this would be very tough. I think they will opt for Seam allrounders like Chahar, Harshal Patel etc so that they can bat deep. 

What happened to the leg spinners? I thought India was going to be very interested in the leg spinners because they had very good success with them. Chahal and Kuldeep had successful careers. And leg spinners are always going to be very effective and essential for T20 cricket. I still expect them to be in the squad.

I just can't imagine India stepping into the T20 world cup without any leg spinners in the squad. And I am going to be really surprised if Virat Kohli is in the squad. He should be dropped from the team right now.

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August 05, 2022, 03:36:55 PM
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These few names are fixed in team roaster
1. Rohit - opener
2.
3. Kohli - 1st, 2nd down
4. SKY - 1st, 2nd down
5.
6. Hardik - Batting allrounder
7.
8. Jadeja- Spin all rounder
9.
10.
11. Bumrah - seamer


We have 3 candidates for 2nd opener ( Rahul-Gill- Kishan). Competition is tough for number 5th slot and Shreyas Iyer is lagging atm because he's vulnerable against short ball, everyone seems to exploit his weakness so his chances looks slim to me. Even Pant is lagging in modern T-20 but management is backing him. Hard to fit everyone in playing XI.

We have many bowlers so this would be very tough. I think they will opt for Seam allrounders like Chahar, Harshal Patel etc so that they can bat deep. 

What happened to the leg spinners? I thought India was going to be very interested in the leg spinners because they had very good success with them. Chahal and Kuldeep had successful careers. And leg spinners are always going to be very effective and essential for T20 cricket. I still expect them to be in the squad.

I just can't imagine India stepping into the T20 world cup without any leg spinners in the squad. And I am going to be really surprised if Virat Kohli is in the squad. He should be dropped from the team right now.
If he keeps getting out cheaply then there may be some chance, having said that every team need at least 1 accumulator in the team and Virat is experienced candidate in this regard. Management also believe that they can build team around him, like keeping guys like SKY, Hardik, DK, Jadeja etc as they all are power hitters.

Chahal is front runner for Leggie spot and 99% chances are that he's going to play. Kuldeep was struggling with his form but he looks okay now, although i think he got injured recently that's why he didn't get any chance in recent series. Another exciting guy is Ravi Bishnoi but again hard to fit everyone
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August 05, 2022, 03:49:38 PM
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LOL.. another defeat for Netherlands and everyone congratulating them saying how well they played.  Grin

Trust me. Netherlands won't be able to win against pig-4 sides, unless they are able to include their star players in the squad. At this point, most of their first choice players (Timm van der Gugten, Fred Klaassen, Roelof van der Merwe.etc) are busy playing county cricket in England. Some of the younger Dutch players have finally started to deliver (especially Bas de Leede and Tim Pringle), and among the senior players Scott Edwards and Logan van Beek have performed consistently. But still half of the squad is there just to make up the numbers and they won't be able to win matches unless this situation changes.

Since Netherlands is a weaker team and also as you mentioned their main players are not in the playing XI, therefore everyone expects them to lose by a big margin. They lost by just 16 runs which is itself an achievement for the Netherlands team and hence people are encouraging them.

Also, the 2nd and the final T20 match between two sides is in progress and Netherlands are 44 for 2 at the current stage. I think they will again lose this match but by a narrow margin.

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August 05, 2022, 04:34:42 PM
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Netherland : New Zealand

New Zealand set a target of 149 runs in the first match. Today's Netherlands managed to set a target of 148 runs. In the previous match we have seen that the pitch is helpful to the bowling. And it is very difficult for the batsmen to score runs. So New Zealand won't win easily today. But if the opening pair can play well then there will be no problem for New Zealand to win the match.

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August 05, 2022, 04:47:18 PM
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Netherland : New Zealand

New Zealand set a target of 149 runs in the first match. Today's Netherlands managed to set a target of 148 runs. In the previous match we have seen that the pitch is helpful to the bowling. And it is very difficult for the batsmen to score runs. So New Zealand won't win easily today. But if the opening pair can play well then there will be no problem for New Zealand to win the match.
Now plying New Zealand they played 1.2 overs and get 8 runs . New Zealand have good performance on starting time . I think 148 runs will not a big target for New Zealand . they can easily win this match. now let’s see what will actually happen

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Netherland : New Zealand

New Zealand set a target of 149 runs in the first match. Today's Netherlands managed to set a target of 148 runs. In the previous match we have seen that the pitch is helpful to the bowling. And it is very difficult for the batsmen to score runs. So New Zealand won't win easily today. But if the opening pair can play well then there will be no problem for New Zealand to win the match.
Now plying New Zealand they played 1.2 overs and get 8 runs . New Zealand have good performance on starting time . I think 148 runs will not a big target for New Zealand . they can easily win this match. now let’s see what will actually happen

New Zealand lost their two openers for just 26 runs. At the end of 4 overs managed to collect 33 runs. Although the run rate is good. But if they lose wickets quickly, New Zealand will not be able to win this match. Mitchell Santner and Daryl Mitchell are now at the crease. If these two can bat responsibly and stay at the crease, New Zealand can win. If these two batsmen go back to the dressing room within 8 overs, the chances of New Zealand's defeat are high.

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Checked the scoreboard for the Netherlands vs New Zealand match, and decided not to watch. And it was the right decision. New Zealand won the match with 6 overs and 8 wickets to spare. There is simply no consistency in the performance of the Dutch players. Yesterday they bowled well, and today their bowlers failed without any exception. This time they tried to strengthen their squad by including expat players such as Vikramjit Singh, Shariz Ahmad and Teja Nidamannaru. But none of the experiments paid off.

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An easy win for New Zealand and they played so well specially in batting side. After losing 2 wickets early in the match, they came back strongly and had managed to win by 8 wickets and 6 overs in hand. In every match they are performing good whatever it balling side or batting side.
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An easy win for New Zealand and they played so well specially in batting side. After losing 2 wickets early in the match, they came back strongly and had managed to win by 8 wickets and 6 overs in hand. In every match they are performing good whatever it balling side or batting side.

Brl spirit of winning changes everything everytime, as far i know that this match was good one as i use to watch the 1 half only and put my decision without any fear of outcome ao this it made me impressed. Building up the excitement for the 28th of August so far.

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If he keeps getting out cheaply then there may be some chance, having said that every team need at least 1 accumulator in the team and Virat is experienced candidate in this regard. Management also believe that they can build team around him, like keeping guys like SKY, Hardik, DK, Jadeja etc as they all are power hitters.

Chahal is front runner for Leggie spot and 99% chances are that he's going to play. Kuldeep was struggling with his form but he looks okay now, although i think he got injured recently that's why he didn't get any chance in recent series. Another exciting guy is Ravi Bishnoi but again hard to fit everyone

I don’t think building a team around Virat Kohli is going to be the most effective idea right now. He himself is not doing very well. And it is quite possible that he also fails in the T20 World Cup.

If anything, I think Virat Kohli should be in the team as an option who can be changed anytime.

I believe there was a statistic showing that whenever Chahal and Kuldeep Yadav played together in the Indian team, India did not have a high win percentage. But on the other hand, when Chahal was the only leg spinner in the team forming a partnership with another bowler like Ravindra Jadeja, India had more success.

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I don’t think building a team around Virat Kohli is going to be the most effective idea right now. He himself is not doing very well. And it is quite possible that he also fails in the T20 World Cup.

If anything, I think Virat Kohli should be in the team as an option who can be changed anytime.

I believe there was a statistic showing that whenever Chahal and Kuldeep Yadav played together in the Indian team, India did not have a high win percentage. But on the other hand, when Chahal was the only leg spinner in the team forming a partnership with another bowler like Ravindra Jadeja, India had more success.
Saw in news lately that Kholi is back from the vacations.
I think Kholi has lost his charm now. His time is over he must either try coaching or his career in Bollywood - he would do great there.

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Checked the scoreboard for the Netherlands vs New Zealand match, and decided not to watch. And it was the right decision. New Zealand won the match with 6 overs and 8 wickets to spare. There is simply no consistency in the performance of the Dutch players. Yesterday they bowled well, and today their bowlers failed without any exception. This time they tried to strengthen their squad by including expat players such as Vikramjit Singh, Shariz Ahmad and Teja Nidamannaru. But none of the experiments paid off.

This is somewhat expected from a team like Netherlands. They should have done a lot better if they want to prove anything to the ICC and anybody else. And another thing I noticed is that they did try to make the squad stronger with some foreign players. But what’s the point?

If you don’t have your own players to play with, eventually you are not going to succeed in this game. And that experiment also did not pay off. New Zealand was supposed to whitewash the Netherlands this series and they did that quite comfortably.

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Checked the scoreboard for the Netherlands vs New Zealand match, and decided not to watch. And it was the right decision. New Zealand won the match with 6 overs and 8 wickets to spare. There is simply no consistency in the performance of the Dutch players. Yesterday they bowled well, and today their bowlers failed without any exception. This time they tried to strengthen their squad by including expat players such as Vikramjit Singh, Shariz Ahmad and Teja Nidamannaru. But none of the experiments paid off.
Everything is a try. Whether it is Netherlands or some other team in the low order will surely try the possible ways to come up with a win. As they had a close fight in the first T20 the squad have been changed with the expat players, believing of some support from them. What they planned didn't happen and made New Zealand make a big win by 8 wickets and 6 overs left.

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It would be right to say, Suryakumar Yadav Indian's most flexible T20 hitter right now? After playing 22nd match Suryakumar take the second position at T20 ranking. Another revolution of Indian cricket, illustration of classic and aggressive batting. No doubt talented player, still he needs to demonstrate more. There are many expresses that with only one great inning, he received sky touching praises. He shouldn't really mind those discussions, however need more consistency to hold that status. If he played every match consistent then certainly he will be a dangerous player.
T20 cricket is very much uncertain, just an example for you to understand that if a batter perform in a given day their is no guarantee that he will perform to his best in the next match. Surya Kumar is a good batter but there is a lot of competition within the peer group. Rishab Panth, Shreyas Iyer and Hooda are also very good batters. You can not conclude to based on T20 ICC rankings. If he is unable to play or score for few matches he will then lose his position.

I agree with you. The Indian board now has a lot of talented players. And batsmen need to play better than bowlers in the T20 format. So if a batsman is not able to perform well in a few matches consistently then the management will definitely look for his alternative. Moreover, India now has many options. So if any player is not able to play consistently well then it is not possible to stay with the squad in the T20 format.
The Indian Cricket Board is much more active than the unique cricket board. The Indian Cricket Board knows how to value their team.For e India cricket has a very good cricket team.But this is the first time I have seen a world class player completely exhausted and that player is Virat Kohli.But his downfall was due to some of his mistakes.However, there are many good players in the Indian cricket team and because of this, India is the most advanced cricket team among the current teams.

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August 06, 2022, 12:01:08 AM
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An easy win for New Zealand and they played so well specially in batting side. After losing 2 wickets early in the match, they came back strongly and had managed to win by 8 wickets and 6 overs in hand. In every match they are performing good whatever it balling side or batting side.
Newzealand were not playing against a big team. They were playing against Netherlands whom you do not see playing quiet often bilateral or trilateral series. They are still working on in building cricket in their country. Netherlands are know more for their soccer than cricket. It was expected they will lose their match against the Newzealand side.

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August 06, 2022, 02:26:45 AM
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An easy win for New Zealand and they played so well specially in batting side. After losing 2 wickets early in the match, they came back strongly and had managed to win by 8 wickets and 6 overs in hand. In every match they are performing good whatever it balling side or batting side.
Newzealand were not playing against a big team. They were playing against Netherlands whom you do not see playing quiet often bilateral or trilateral series. They are still working on in building cricket in their country. Netherlands are know more for their soccer than cricket. It was expected they will lose their match against the Newzealand side.

Netherlands had a good squad around 10-20 years back. During the 2003 ODI world cup, they managed to bowl out India for a total of just 204 runs. They still lost the match by 68 runs. Back then they had some very good players such as Ryan ten Doeschate, Tim de Leede, Feiko Kloppenburg, Edgar Schiferli and Roland Lefebvre. But now their squad is mostly comprised of inexperienced youngsters. Some of them, such as Bas de Leede have performed quite well recently. But overall their standards have gone down.   

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