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April 06, 2019, 09:27:55 PM
Last edit: April 06, 2019, 09:51:22 PM by LoyceV
Merited by theymos (20), Welsh (15), Foxpup (12), Mr. Big (10), suchmoon (9), malevolent (6), hilariousandco (5), Vod (2), OgNasty (1), TheNewAnon135246 (1), Daniel91 (1), Hhampuz (1), ChiBitCTy (1)
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I think Rmcdermott927 is the first user who's been voted into DT1 with the help of red-trusted Newbies that are likely alt-accounts.



Let me emphasize that I have nothing against Rmcdermott927, who's #36 Most Trusted on BPIP.
This topic is about the system, the user is just a coincidence. I have no reason to believe Rmcdermott927 is responsible for creating the sockpuppets.




DT1 requirements (incomplete but relevant items of the list):
- You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.
 - You must have at least 2 people directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 250, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.

Rmcdermott927 was added to DT1 3 days ago. As of this morning, Rmcdermott927 is trusted by these users:
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Trust list for: Rmcdermott927 (Trust: 209: -0 / +22) (DT1! (1) 31 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-04-06_Sat_20.17h)
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Rmcdermott927 is Trusted by:
1. TECSHARE (Trust: 268: -0 / +28) (DT1 (-3) 236 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. OgNasty (Trust: 19: -4 / +55) (DT1 (-1) 640 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Operatr (Trust: 10: -0 / +1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. defcon23 (Trust: -240: -8 / +16) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. leancuisine (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. squatter (Trust: neutral) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. gysca (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. bamb (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Luckycoin90 (Trust: 38: -0 / +4) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. txbtc (Trust: -2: -1 / +0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. bill gator (Trust: 56: -0 / +11) (DT1! (8) 459 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. P4ndoraBox7 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. CanadaBits (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. Miyslovenic (Trust: 10: -0 / +1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Funny (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. PrivacyLock (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. vCardVideo (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. tennozer (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. A-10 (Trust: 90: -0 / +9) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. ChiBitCTy (Trust: 6: -1 / +21) (170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. endlasuresh (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. welshcollectibles (Trust: 110: -0 / +11) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. JamesNoJosh (Trust: 20: -0 / +2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. Bazinga442 (Trust: -256: -8 / +0) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. chickinini (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. cryptorgasm (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. Pablojob (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. PiningGarcia (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. PingGermoco (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. cryptopov (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. poypototoy (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. Zin-Zang (Trust: -256: -8 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. H8bussesNbicycles (Trust: -2048: -11 / +0) (8 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. ito-marketing (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. gwsukabokepjepang (Trust: -2048: -11 / +0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
(only TECSHARE didn't include him yet a week earlier, so I'm not sure if this inclusion counted for DT1-voting yet)

The list shows:
2 users with at least 250 Merit
12 (including the 2 from above) users with at least 10 Merit
(Merit data is from last Friday)

I'm focussing on the following red-trusted users with 10 or more Merit:
24. Bazinga442 (Trust: -256: -8 / +0) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. chickinini (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. Pablojob (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. PiningGarcia (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. PingGermoco (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. poypototoy (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. Zin-Zang (Trust: -256: -8 / +0) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)[/quote]

Those 7 users have all have quite similar Trust lists, probably taken from ▀▄ REMOVE LAUDA FROM DT ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄ LIST UPDATED 2/5/19 ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀. That could be used by real users, and it's not what I'm after in this topic.
I'm also ignoring the first (Bazinga442) and last (Zin-Zang), as they don't seem to fit the pattern.

That leaves 5 users, registered on:
January 03, 2018, 06:42:37 PM
January 05, 2018, 03:04:40 AM
January 05, 2018, 03:15:43 AM
January 05, 2018, 03:19:11 AM
January 11, 2018, 03:22:45 AM

Last online on:
February 21, 2019, 02:40:26
February 21, 2019, 03:16:09 PM
February 21, 2019, 04:42:32 PM
February 21, 2019, 05:03:47 PM
February 22, 2019, 06:50:29

They all set their custom Trust list at the same week (week 3 in my Trust list viewer).

Out of their 5 votes, at least 3 have been used to reach the total of 10 inclusions.
They all have 10 or 11 Merit, largely received from the same few users around the same time:

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Thu Jul 19 01:40:12 2018: 7 from Nevis (history)for Re: can eth reach over 700
Sat Apr 14 09:49:08 2018: 2 from cryptocipher (history)for Re: HOW MANY HOURS per day do you spend in topics related to Crypto?
Sun Feb  4 18:59:06 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: Is doing bounty worth it?

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Fri Jul 20 13:50:02 2018: 6 from Nevis (history)for Re: In South Korea, the Crypto Currency Boom Hits Economy system.
Mon Apr 16 17:13:16 2018: 2 from PingGermoco (history)for Re: DOES SPENDING MORE TIME IN BOUNTY CAMPAIGN GAIN YOU MORE TOKENS?
Tue Feb  6 13:43:56 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: Rate my portfolio! :) (result from my analysis so you can benefit from this)

Merit received by PiningGarcia from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

Fri Jul 20 23:34:24 2018: 6 from Nevis (history)for Re: DOES SPENDING MORE TIME IN BOUNTY CAMPAIGN GAIN YOU MORE TOKENS?
Tue Apr 10 10:30:13 2018: 1 from jbautistangina (history)for Re: YOU CAN DO IT
Tue Feb  6 17:04:05 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: Receive tokens to MyEtherWallet
Fri Feb  2 08:42:21 2018: 1 from xianbits (history)for Re: Receive tokens to MyEtherWallet

Merit received by PingGermoco from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

Sun Jul 22 08:12:09 2018: 6 from Nevis (history)for Re: How can I get earn on the Bitcointalk
Sat Apr 14 09:56:38 2018: 2 from MaylaWet (history)for Re: Do you trust your intuition when invest in ico?
Tue Feb  6 17:44:38 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: The statements of ripple

Merit received by poypototoy from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

Sun Jul 22 15:36:50 2018: 6 from Nevis (history)for Re: youtube and blogger have started blocking ICO ads
Wed Apr 11 07:50:19 2018: 2 from PiningGarcia (history)for Re: When will the market recover?
Sun Feb 25 16:14:06 2018: 2 from darkangel020716 (history)for Re: Can myetherwallet get hacked?

It's not 100% conclusive evidence, but they sure look like alt accounts to me.



Unlike the previous policy, I will not generally be trying to cultivate a good list; that will be left to the DT1 members themselves. However, I reserve the right to remove you and blacklist you from future selection if you engage in egregious and obvious abuse, or if multiple known alt accounts could be selected.
Although I don't think there's much harm done here by voting Rmcdermott927 into DT1, it's a proof of concept of DT1-voting using alts and would set a bad precedent to let it happen, so I'm asking theymos to look into this.

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April 06, 2019, 09:39:52 PM
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I am guessing this is because:


Rmcdermott927 Distrusts:
1. ~TMAN (Trust: 243: -0 / +25) (DT1! (18) 879 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. ~Lauda (Trust: 300: -0 / +31) (DT1! (23) 868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

I was actually planning on doing some research starting at Rmcdermott927, not because of him being included into DT1, but rather because of what I was here, as it seems there might be some evidence some people are being excluded specifically because of who they have on their trust list, specifically, I was going to look into a group of people potentially excluding anyone who trusts (via their trust list) who is critical of said group. Although it seems the Rmcdermott927 exclusion was somewhat resolved as of the last trust list dump.

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Rmcdermott927 Distrusts:
1. ~TMAN (Trust: 243: -0 / +25) (DT1! (18) 879 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. ~Lauda (Trust: 300: -0 / +31) (DT1! (23) 868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
No, why would I care about that?
I noticed this case on http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/:
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118. Rmcdermott927 (Trust: 209: -0 / +22) (DT1! (1) 31 Merit earned) is included by 2 users with 250+ earned Merit and 5 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
Rmcdermott927 was ranked too low to get on DT1. This turned out to be my misinterpretation of the requirements, but it got my attention anyway when I saw the votes from red-trusted Newbies.

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Although it seems the Rmcdermott927 exclusion was somewhat resolved as of the last trust list dump.
I don't really follow the Collectibles-thread, but looking back a few months he did have more exclusions. Either way, the reason for this topic is clearly stated, no need for speculation Smiley

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Rmcdermott927 Distrusts:
1. ~TMAN (Trust: 243: -0 / +25) (DT1! (18) 879 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. ~Lauda (Trust: 300: -0 / +31) (DT1! (23) 868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
No, why would I care about that?
Those sockpuppets (you and I presume) included anyone who excluded Lauda from their trust list, and excluded anyone who included lauda on their trust lists.

The reason why he is included on their trust lists is because he excluded lauda and TMAN


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Although it seems the Rmcdermott927 exclusion was somewhat resolved as of the last trust list dump.
I don't really follow the Collectibles-thread, but looking back a few months he did have more exclusions. Either way, the reason for this topic is clearly stated, no need for speculation Smiley
That quote was referring to different research I was planning on doing.

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April 06, 2019, 09:49:42 PM
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No, why would I care about that?
Those sockpuppets (you and I presume) included anyone who excluded Lauda from their trust list, and excluded anyone who included lauda on their trust lists.
Sorry, I misread your previous comment. Time to sleep Smiley

You're right, that's the reason of the shared trust list created by H8bussesNbicycles, and I'm not after users who used that list, I'm only after users who I suspect to be alts.

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Perhaps 10 merits is too low. Even if theymos could fix this one issue by blacklisting those sockpuppets from voting it's still way too easy for someone else to attempt it.

Increasing the merit requirement (or the required number of votes) would also postpone bumping up against the 100-member limit, which seems inevitable in a couple of months. It would be quite ridiculous if due to the limit some sort of random selection would end up removing some legitimate members from DT1 while keeping some elected by sockpuppets.

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Rmcdermott927 Distrusts:
1. ~TMAN (Trust: 243: -0 / +25) (DT1! (18) 879 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. ~Lauda (Trust: 300: -0 / +31) (DT1! (23) 868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
No, why would I care about that?
Those sockpuppets (you and I presume) included anyone who excluded Lauda from their trust list, and excluded anyone who included lauda on their trust lists.

The reason why he is included on their trust lists is because he excluded lauda and TMAN


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Although it seems the Rmcdermott927 exclusion was somewhat resolved as of the last trust list dump.
I don't really follow the Collectibles-thread, but looking back a few months he did have more exclusions. Either way, the reason for this topic is clearly stated, no need for speculation Smiley
That quote was referring to different research I was planning on doing.

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April 06, 2019, 09:58:54 PM
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You're right, that's the reason of the shared trust list created by H8bussesNbicycles, and I'm not after users who used that list, I'm only after users who I suspect to be alts.
The votes are limited, so except for  Bazinga442, who has two, the rest only have one vote. These people as a whole, only have the ability to get one person on DT1, and they will need help.

This falls outside of the criteria that theymos previously said will cause him to blacklist people -- I believe he said he will blacklist in cases in which you are putting your own alts on DT1, but that is likely not the case here. All of these people did receive merit (although under suspicious circumstances), which does entitle them to vote, although not multiple times for a single person as appears to be the case here.

I think it is a very bad idea to mix the merit system with the trust system. This person for example should have 4 "250" votes, and 100 "10" votes, based on this:
if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.
as I believe that person deserves to be legendary, even though I don't know him, or have any reason to trust or not trust him one way or another.

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Merited by Foxpup (15), Welsh (4), LFC_Bitcoin (1), LoyceV (1), bill gator (1), Hhampuz (1)
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I see no particular evidence of Bazinga442 being an alt, but the other six five (edit: zin-zang may not be part of this circle) are all the same person. They will be blacklisted from the DT selection system in the future. Haven't decided whether this abuse warrants a forum ban.

How did they get 10 merit? (I don't have time to look into this right now.)

10 merit is difficult enough IMO. I don't want it to be too difficult. Any other suggestions? We could just keep an eye on it and respond reactively to cases like this.


Edit:

After some investigation, this is a circle of 58 accounts, most of which have 10+ merit. IDs:
2061631
1658865
1609508
1586656
1586585
1586551
1586457
1586404
1575750
1575704
1325707
1325699
1325681
1325665
1325651
1325633
1325624
1325612
1312864
1312835
1312750
1312730
1312682
1312669
1312215
1311924
1311852
1311798
1311776
1311740
1311716
1311700
1311664
1311649
1311624
1311608
1290714
1290532
1289915
1260476
1260451
1247231
1247213
1247203
1247193
1240919
1240872
1240853
1240832
1240198
1237158
1237123
1236944
1236879
1236860
1231268
1231252
1586551

They're all now excluded from the DT selection process, so if the goal was to manipulate DT, someone blew ~580 sMerit in order to ultimately fail doing so.

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How did they get 10 merit? (I don't have time to look into this right now.)
I know. Check this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114184.0
Bunch of banned senior/hero members ranked up farm and I don't think 58 accounts is correct number.

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How did they get 10 merit? (I don't have time to look into this right now.)

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Thu Jul 19 01:40:12 2018: 7 from Nevis (history)for Re: can eth reach over 700
Sat Apr 14 09:49:08 2018: 2 from cryptocipher (history)for Re: HOW MANY HOURS per day do you spend in topics related to Crypto?
Sun Feb  4 18:59:06 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: Is doing bounty worth it?

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Merit received by Pablojob from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

Fri Jul 20 13:50:02 2018: 6 from Nevis (history)for Re: In South Korea, the Crypto Currency Boom Hits Economy system.
Mon Apr 16 17:13:16 2018: 2 from PingGermoco (history)for Re: DOES SPENDING MORE TIME IN BOUNTY CAMPAIGN GAIN YOU MORE TOKENS?
Tue Feb  6 13:43:56 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: Rate my portfolio! Smiley (result from my analysis so you can benefit from this)

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Fri Jul 20 23:34:24 2018: 6 from Nevis (history)for Re: DOES SPENDING MORE TIME IN BOUNTY CAMPAIGN GAIN YOU MORE TOKENS?
Tue Apr 10 10:30:13 2018: 1 from jbautistangina (history)for Re: YOU CAN DO IT
Tue Feb  6 17:04:05 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: Receive tokens to MyEtherWallet
Fri Feb  2 08:42:21 2018: 1 from xianbits (history)for Re: Receive tokens to MyEtherWallet

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Merit received by PingGermoco from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

Sun Jul 22 08:12:09 2018: 6 from Nevis (history)for Re: How can I get earn on the Bitcointalk
Sat Apr 14 09:56:38 2018: 2 from MaylaWet (history)for Re: Do you trust your intuition when invest in ico?
Tue Feb  6 17:44:38 2018: 2 from ace4549 (history)for Re: The statements of ripple


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5 of the above accounts has merit from nevis, who was selling his account and has sent merit to:
Merit sent by Nevis from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

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Nevis has sent merit to the following people:
chickinini
TinaMoran
NilaMutac
poetmo
kantotinio
LillyBogan

At least three of the above were part of those "colluding with Russia" on ]this thread, although their trust lists appear to have since been changed. Except for one of them, they all have exactly 10 merit.

ace4549 also has sent merit to 4 of the 6 alts, although he has sent a lot of merit:
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Looking more closely at ace4549's merit history, it appears he was likely "abusing" merit in some way. He gave several posts in this thread merit. The majority of the rest of the posts he gave merit to were not in threads he ever posted in, and in the majority of times he gave merit, he gave merit to exactly one person. When reviewing the threads he gave merit it, I did not specifically keep track, however I would say both were the case "all" the time except ~2-3 threads. He does not have any "merit giveaway" threads. I noticed some additional people he gave merit to have negative trust for "collusion".  I suspect that ace4549 may have been selling merit based on the above, in any case he is banned currently.

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After some investigation, this is a circle of 58 accounts, most of which have 10+ merit. IDs:
[...]

They're all now excluded from the DT selection process, so if the goal was to manipulate DT, someone blew ~580 sMerit in order to ultimately fail doing so.
Perhaps you could remove their sMerit for those who are not already banned. In theory, they can use the ~580 merit they received, and send it to 29 additional accounts to have 29 other accounts have 10 merit.

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I would also point out that I received 200 sMerit when the merit system was introduced (IIRC), and someone abusing that merit could turn that into ~400 merit, so it would not take a lot for someone to be able to get 580 merit to various alts.

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10 merit is difficult enough IMO. I don't want it to be too difficult. Any other suggestions? We could just keep an eye on it and respond reactively to cases like this.

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Seriously though, if you could add what you just did (I assume some query based on IPs and whatnot) to your monthly DT1 process maybe that would help expose these shenanigans?

I don't know what else we can do without tightening the requirements. Maybe some minor tweaks could be done without disenfranchising legitimate users. E.g. require at least one of the 10 merits to be earned in the last N days (30? 90?) so that this potential exploit would have an ongoing cost.

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Require at least one of the 10 merits to be earned in the last N days (30? 90?)

Excellent idea!

Or, have merit decay as it ages, but that might require decimals.

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10 merit is difficult enough IMO. I don't want it to be too difficult. Any other suggestions? We could just keep an eye on it and respond reactively to cases like this.


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Perhaps some kind of additional RANK or ACTIVITY requirement could help? It would increase the cost of failure considerably.  I mean who knows who they can trust after being here 5 mins? having a broad knowledge of a lot of peoples pasts and their relationships with others here is going to put you in a far better position to start vouching for how trustworthy they are isn't it?

Trust (real trust) is something very important to the board. Not just for trading but also for even more important reasons that I won't go off topic with now.

These accounts if you decide require nuking..  are not substantial loss since they are mostly new and can be replaced in a short amount of time. You can easily buy merits for around 4 bucks ( so I have heard) even if you do not have the required alts to gradually power them up. Or friends whom are merit sources.

I would have thought a DT1 would need to have years of history to look over and analyse to install any real trust in those people and of course the cost of losing something that takes a minimum of 4- 5years to replace is quite a risk to play around with. Perhaps also some trading experience? I mean it may be slightly more manual but it is better that DT1 actually represents trust. With perhaps review every 3 months and any untrustworthy actions mean immediate removal. Gradual careful additions may be added.

There seemed to be far LESS trouble and the board seemed to provide a far more optimal environment in many ways when you just picked the DT1 that you were familiar with and trusted yourself.

On top of this you may not have considered the psychological impact of allowing those KNOWN to have committed openly very untrustworthy actions to actually punish others for lesser evils is going to fuel persons to really rebel against the system that allows that to take place. Causing a lot of friction and motivate people to game the systems and not use them in the way that you have stated they should be used.

In some instances (like an anonymous forum) I think broadly centralised control works better than experimenting with decentralised control. Especially as generally it will allow for more consistent and fairer treatment of all members. This will lead to less friction, easier/less appeals since there will be more accountability.

So in short I think some mix of activity and trading history (manual analysis) with some merit requirement mixed in could make it harder to game and make the cost of failure far higher. But even then I think DT1 should really be a solid and observably trustworthy bunch that really denotes TRUST. Any observable dirt REAL DIRT in financial terms of a DT1 invalidates them to most of the board. This will always come up and make the entire system look corrupt and misleading when they dish scam tags on anyone else.

These are my honest tips for improving the system. I would like to see the same thing as you. Free of scammers and ico pumpers, sig spammers without leaving free speech vulnerable . A real meritocracy.

I could be as simple though as leaving it how it is and offering kudos to anyone that finds any financially motivated untrustworthy deeds committed by anyone on dt1 and instantly blacklisting them. Keeping then a fresh batch of observably spotless DT1.

If those people went to all that trouble to install someone (many others do trust)  who observably didn't trust 2 persons that are not spotless ? does this not tell you something theymos?

anyway those are my ideas to help get trust back into the trust system. If this is off topic here then do not delete it since theymos asked for ways to improve it, simply let me know and I will delete it and copy it to another thread.









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After some investigation, this is a circle of 58 accounts, most of which have 10+ merit.
Correction: 57 accounts. You listed PiningGarcia (u=1586551) twice.

They're all now excluded from the DT selection process, so if the goal was to manipulate DT, someone blew ~580 sMerit in order to ultimately fail doing so.
All now red-trusted, too. Grin

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Perhaps 10 merits is too low.
Way too low; it's just a matter of time again.

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I see no particular evidence of Bazinga442 being an alt, but the other six five (edit: zin-zang may not be part of this circle) are all the same person.
That is exactly what I expected.

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They will be blacklisted from the DT selection system in the future.
Thanks for the quick action Smiley

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How did they get 10 merit? (I don't have time to look into this right now.)
The merit transactions for my 5 main suspects were in the OP, but here's a full list to the Merit history of the 58 57 users. Most of them got their Merit airdropped:
    1. abduljacklu (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    2. johnyespapa (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    3. cryptopusa (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    4. cryptopussies (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    5. cryptopuma (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    6. cryptopan (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    7. cryptobobo (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    8. cryptomema (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    9. cryptospear (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   10. cryptocue (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (3 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   11. cryptoux (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   12. cryptodagger (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   13. nakamote (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   14. cryptotitan (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   15. mangkanor (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   16. nakauten (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   17. cryptodrei (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   18. mautenisis (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   19. cryptonero (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   20. joselitobayagbag (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   21. makuhpal (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   22. cryptomngr (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   23. jackolinyoko (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   24. sycaburatan (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   25. reypinioco (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (9 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   26. cryptotnak (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   27. cryptamod (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   28. panghae (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   29. mariangpalad (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   30. habaratbu (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   31. modtakels (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   32. junjunsalsalani (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   33. totnaksquad (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   34. pooque (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   35. bratbu (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   36. maereglapo (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   37. pedropendukot (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   38. bulbolitobayagyag (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   39. matsusomoto (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   40. hiwainmoto (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   41. cryptoheroin (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   42. cryptomarijuana (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   43. cryptoatomic (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   44. cryptocrocs (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   45. cryptodevs (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   46. cryptomorphines (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (BPIP)
   47. cryptoprophecy (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   48. chickinini (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (11 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   49. cryptorgasm (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (4 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   50. TinaMoran (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   51. Pablojob (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   52. PiningGarcia (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   53. PingGermoco (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   54. NilaMutac (Trust: -16: -4 / +0) (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   55. cryptopov (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (4 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   56. poypototoy (Trust: -8: -3 / +0) (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
   57. burakike (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (BPIP)

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10 merit is difficult enough IMO. I don't want it to be too difficult. Any other suggestions? We could just keep an eye on it and respond reactively to cases like this.
I would suggest to make Member rank the minimum to be able to vote. Until yesterday, I thought that was required already.

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They're all now excluded from the DT selection process, so if the goal was to manipulate DT, someone blew ~580 sMerit in order to ultimately fail doing so.
The lost sMerit amount is much lower: only 7 of those accounts earned their 10 Merit, the rest had it airdropped and can't vote. Those Merit transactions happened before Merit gave voting rights, so I think the original plan was just to farm Member accounts.

Perhaps you could remove their sMerit for those who are not already banned. In theory, they can use the ~580 merit they received, and send it to 29 additional accounts to have 29 other accounts have 10 merit.
I don't think they have much left: the ones with "0 Merit earned" in my list above sent their only sMerit already.

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This is interesting, are they alts or merit sellers?


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Sat Feb  3 12:09:50 2018: 1 to cafucafucafu (history) for Re: Do Banks fear cryptocurrency
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Merit received by ace4549 from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

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Sun Apr 15 22:09:26 2018: 3 from Joemzz31 (history)for Re: BITCOIN IS STILL FAMOUS
Sat Apr 14 08:25:20 2018: 2 from Sk_Ezaz (history)for Re: Saving Bitcoins for your Children.
Thu Mar 29 08:43:16 2018: 1 from cryptoindustries (history)for Re: Should I invest In Bitcoin?
Thu Mar 29 08:06:27 2018: 1 from redcucumber (history)for Re: Bitcoin is changing the world.
Wed Mar  7 16:38:58 2018: 1 from baduday1991 (history)for Re: What is Virtual Money?
Thu Mar  1 01:24:52 2018: 2 from jashley (history)for Re: Will the price be stable?
Wed Feb 28 20:29:13 2018: 5 from Emdppablo (history)for Re: Bitcoin is NOT DEAD
Mon Feb 26 11:52:12 2018: 1 from titteringtacos (history)for Re: How can I do Hodl or Quit
Sun Feb 25 21:28:00 2018: 2 from mylifeisfullofalts (history)for Re: Do Altcoins really have a future?
Sun Feb 25 21:27:01 2018: 1 from mylifeisfullofalts (history)for Re: Which Coins are a great LONG-TERM investment Huh?
Sun Feb 25 21:24:28 2018: 1 from mylifeisfullofalts (history)for Re: How do you Panic?
Sun Feb 25 20:11:33 2018: 2 from mabell943 (history)for Re: Start with Bitcoin or Ethereum
Sun Feb 25 20:11:22 2018: 2 from harbin55 (history)for Re: Start with Bitcoin or Ethereum
Sun Feb 25 20:11:10 2018: 2 from loof99 (history)for Re: Start with Bitcoin or Ethereum
Sun Feb 25 20:10:18 2018: 1 from lance04 (history)for deleted post
Sun Feb 25 20:09:53 2018: 4 from Jombrangs (history)for deleted post
Sun Feb 25 20:09:29 2018: 2 from s31joemhar (history)for deleted post
Sun Feb 25 16:52:11 2018: 10 from gunhell16 (history)for Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency?
Mon Feb 12 21:00:25 2018: 1 from cryptodevs (history)for Re: What encourages you to invest in any altcoin?
Sun Feb 11 08:41:22 2018: 1 from habaratbu (history)for deleted post
Sat Feb 10 07:03:44 2018: 1 from bulbolitobayagyag (history)for Re: Is Bitcoin money?
Fri Feb  9 17:48:40 2018: 4 from HappyDumper (history)for Re: BITCOIN vs ETH ? Your thoughts?
Fri Feb  9 17:48:08 2018: 4 from CryptoBalds (history)for Re: Is Bitcoin money?
Fri Feb  9 17:33:02 2018: 1 from sycaburatan (history)for Re: Should Bitcoin even have a future?
Thu Feb  8 23:56:46 2018: 1 from nakauten (history)for Re: Why do we really need Bitcoin?
Tue Feb  6 11:24:53 2018: 1 from cryptoux (history)for Re: why so many currencies?
Mon Feb  5 06:42:06 2018: 1 from cryptopuma (history)for Re: Is It advisable to quit my present job for bitcoin?
Sat Feb  3 13:17:59 2018: 1 from ac2eugenio (history)for Re: I'll never stop buying Bitcoin
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Sat Feb  3 12:20:00 2018: 1 from xbl1008 (history)for Re: I'll never stop buying Bitcoin
Wed Jan 31 12:28:58 2018: 5 from Lannie25 (history)for Re: What is BTC for you?
Wed Jan 31 12:28:39 2018: 5 from BlasterS (history)for Re: If Bitcoin dies does altcoin die?
Wed Jan 31 12:28:12 2018: 5 from Genosx (history)for Re: is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins?
Wed Jan 31 12:27:30 2018: 1 from Sean25pogi (history)for Re: Is It advisable to quit my present job for bitcoin?
Sat Jan 27 16:16:10 2018: 16 from loof99 (history)for Re: interest in bitcoin is increasing
Sat Jan 27 16:15:39 2018: 16 from harbin55 (history)for Re: Bitcoin = $1 Million by 2020
Sat Jan 27 16:13:55 2018: 16 from mabell943 (history)for Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin?
Fri Jan 26 09:14:43 2018: 5 from ivanst776 (history)for Re: Does any bank accept Bitcoin?
Thu Jan 25 18:21:38 2018: 1 from Glydel1999 (history)for deleted post
Thu Jan 25 18:21:10 2018: 1 from Danglen1010 (history)for Re: interest in bitcoin is increasing
Thu Jan 25 18:20:45 2018: 1 from RakknRoll (history)for Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children
Thu Jan 25 18:20:14 2018: 1 from LastRolling (history)for Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ?
Thu Jan 25 18:19:47 2018: 1 from Joemzz31 (history)for Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ?
Thu Jan 25 18:14:44 2018: 2 from lance04 (history)for Re: Paypal VS Bitcoin
Thu Jan 25 18:02:16 2018: 5 from Glorious04 (history)for deleted post
Thu Jan 25 17:02:02 2018: 17 from Jombrangs (history)for Re: Is It advisable to quit my present job for bitcoin?
Thu Jan 25 17:00:49 2018: 28 from s31joemhar (history)for Re: How can you improve yourself in trading?
Thu Jan 25 12:03:29 2018: 1 from Gibreil (history)for Re: Does any bank accept Bitcoin?



Merit sent by Nevis from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)

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Wed Jul 25 10:46:21 2018: 6 to LillyBogan (history) for Re: For how long you will hold your altcoins?
Tue Jul 24 11:32:28 2018: 6 to kantotinio (history) for Re: How often do you join airdrop?
Mon Jul 23 14:41:12 2018: 6 to poetmo (history) for Re: True BTC believers
Sun Jul 22 15:36:50 2018: 6 to poypototoy (history) for Re: youtube and blogger have started blocking ICO ads
Sun Jul 22 08:12:09 2018: 6 to PingGermoco (history) for Re: How can I get earn on the Bitcointalk
Fri Jul 20 23:34:24 2018: 6 to PiningGarcia (history) for Re: DOES SPENDING MORE TIME IN BOUNTY CAMPAIGN GAIN YOU MORE TOKENS?
Fri Jul 20 13:50:02 2018: 6 to Pablojob (history) for Re: In South Korea, the Crypto Currency Boom Hits Economy system.
Fri Jul 20 07:26:04 2018: 6 to TinaMoran (history) for Re: HOW MANY HOURS per day do you spend in topics related to Crypto?
Thu Jul 19 09:15:31 2018: 6 to NilaMutac (history) for Re: How can i earn bitcoin here in bitcointalk?
Thu Jul 19 01:40:12 2018: 7 to chickinini (history) for Re: can eth reach over 700



Merit received by Nevis from January 24, 2018 until April 05, 2019 (source)


EDIT if you notice the merit received from ACE4549, you will see a lot of merit in a shor amount of time, this leads to more probable alts from him
like

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1126441
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=359855
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=959116

and more groups of users / accounts with the same signature/avatar


and accoutns with a very similar nickname

Fri Feb  9 17:48:08 2018: 4 from CryptoBalds (history)for Re: Is Bitcoin money?
Tue Feb  6 11:24:53 2018: 1 from cryptoux (history)for Re: why so many currencies?
Mon Feb  5 06:42:06 2018: 1 from cryptopuma (history)for Re: Is It advisable to quit my present job for bitcoin?

Thu Jan 25 18:20:45 2018: 1 from RakknRoll (history)for Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children
Thu Jan 25 18:20:14 2018: 1 from LastRolling (history)for Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ?

Thu Jan 25 18:14:44 2018: 2 from lance04 (history)for Re: Paypal VS Bitcoin
Thu Jan 25 18:02:16 2018: 5 from Glorious04 (history)for deleted post

@Theymos maybe you want to undo the merit sent from
Nevis
ace4549

I will look more on the ring for ace4549.

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April 07, 2019, 10:40:07 AM
Merited by coinlocket$ (2)
 #19

~ I will look more on the ring for ace4549.

ace4549 is connected with the several profiles which sent merit to each other. All of them have changed passwords within 12 minutes.

6/13/2018 9:27:02 PM | password changed | [BPIP] s31joemhar (banned)
6/13/2018 9:29:03 PM | password changed | [BPIP] Jombrangs (banned)
6/13/2018 9:30:56 PM | password changed | [BPIP] loof99 (banned)
6/13/2018 9:31:37 PM | password changed | [BPIP] ace4549 (banned)
6/13/2018 9:34:25 PM | password changed | [BPIP] harbin55
6/13/2018 9:34:41 PM | password changed | [BPIP] mabell943 (banned)
6/13/2018 9:34:56 PM | password changed | [BPIP] lance04 (banned)
6/13/2018 9:35:18 PM | password changed | [BPIP] Lannie25
6/13/2018 9:37:12 PM | password changed | [BPIP] Genosx
6/13/2018 9:37:28 PM | password changed | [BPIP] BlasterS (banned)
6/13/2018 9:37:54 PM | password changed | [BPIP] Glydel1999 (banned)
6/13/2018 9:38:09 PM | password changed | [BPIP] Joemzz31 (banned)
6/13/2018 9:38:21 PM | password changed | [BPIP] RakknRoll (banned)
6/13/2018 9:38:36 PM | password changed | [BPIP] Sean25pogi

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April 08, 2019, 11:41:32 AM
 #20

The requirements should follow the forum ecosystem development.
A year ago 1 merit was very difficult to achieve, there were just a few sources and initial smeirt was given away for a few months, now many more courses were added, much more merit is generated per month and the tendency is the merit pool to grow bigger with the time.

Here are two options.

-Instead of fixed 10 earned merit make it a % of the total generated source merit so if new merit sources are added the requirement will change accordingly.

    Example now there are 20855 sMerit per 30 days requirement can be 0.1% of the total amount =

- If it is fixed amount then add a requirement for additional earned merit for a given time like 3 merit per 120 days of activity.

   That will be easy to spot the abusers, at least the lazy ones that give 3 in one shot.

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