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May 21, 2023, 10:13:44 AM
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And the favorites won. Thankfully.  Wink


Mackenzie Dern won with a unanimous decision against Angela Hill. Her left eye was swollen, I hope she is okay. Also, it looks like she had not strengthened her takedown defense yet. Dern's big points came from takedowns and she also won the stand-up fight.
I don't know how Angela survived that round 3 dominating ground and pound by Dern but I think it was all heart and toughness and I praise her for that.
She needs more work if she wants to win, obviously, it's the takedown defense that must be improved and how she will come back if she experiences that same position.

The other two winners are from a KO/TKO.
Anthony Hernandez was stopped by the referee due to Edmen not fighting back early in Round 3.
Joaquin Buckley is the busy worker, and Fialho is not throwing many punches or kicks until he was caught with a head kick in the chin that ended the fight.

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May 21, 2023, 02:19:56 PM
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-snip-
Nice multi win buddy, but it's a shame from a few cards I can only predict one fight.
Maybe it's because there is doubt that I can't analyze and predict more fights that I can use to multi bet.
At last night's event I couldn't watch the UFC fight so I didn't really understand the fight that was going on.
But I saw the replay of Natalia Silva vs Victoria Leonardo and Natalia fought aggressively enough that she easily beat Leonardo.
In that fight Leonardo received a kick in the face so the referee decided Leonardo could not continue the fight.
A very good win added to the record of Natalia Silva.

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May 21, 2023, 05:11:53 PM
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This is a horrible night to bet. There's too many close calls for me, including the main event. Anyhow, here's my predictions:

Takashi Sato
Natália Silva
Chase Hooper
Rodrigo Nascimento
Orion Cosce
Viacheslav Borshchev
Diego Ferreira
Joaquin Buckley
Lupita Godinez
Anthony Hernandez
Mackenzie Dern
Vanessa Demopoulos

Joaquin Buckley is definitely a risky one. Although, he will probably have more volume than Fialho, and if that's the case, I think he wins either via TKO or decision, but has the chance to be clipped. Mackenzie Dern all depends on Angela's takedown defense. Anthony Hernandez is probably one of my more confident picks. He has decent wrestling, and submissions. Natália Silva is probably the most confident pick of the night. I like Vanessa here, she has decent submissions, but the only problem is she'll likely get out struck. So, if she can't finish the fight, she probably loses to a decision.

I think we should remind ourselves to check the lines on the overs and unders for lopsided matches like Silva vs Leonardo.  Not sure but I think I say it at a decent line at 1.70 - 1.75 or something.

So yeah...  I thought the main event was gonna be boring as hell but man, sometimes these women could show everybody that they could for it better than men do in the cage.  Dern improved a lot.  Can't wait to see her go against somebody like Yan or Namajunas next.

Here's the post fight press conference.

UFC Fight Night:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTWvnVm_P20

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May 21, 2023, 06:31:35 PM
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Now that the event of UFC Fight Night: Dern vs. Hill is settled I think it is time to move again with a different event, and right now the next event is

UFC Fight Night: Kara-France vs. Albazi

Date & Time: 06.03.2023 at 06:00 PM ET
Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States



MAIN EVENT
Kai Kara-France VS Amir Albazi

CO-MAIN EVENT
Alex Caceres VS Daniel Pineda

MAIN CARD
Jim Miller VS Jared Gordon
Tim Elliott VS Victor Altamirano
Karine Silva VS Ketlen Souza
Guram Kutateladze VS Jamie Mullarkey

PRELIMINARY CARD
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John Castañeda VS Mateus Mendonça
Andrei Arlovski VS Don'Tale Mayes
Daniel Santos VS Johnny Munoz Jr.
Jinh Yu Frey VS Elise Reed
Luan Lacerda VS Da'Mon Blackshear
Maxim Grishin VS Philipe Lins

Info was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/99119-ufc-fight-night
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May 22, 2023, 12:27:01 AM
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So yeah...  I thought the main event was gonna be boring as hell but man, sometimes these women could show everybody that they could for it better than men do in the cage.  Dern improved a lot.  Can't wait to see her go against somebody like Yan or Namajunas next.
I was thinking the same as you and I expected all event to be boring but sometimes unexpected things happen in MMA.
This is better option than to have high expectation from some big fight and you get boring snooze fest.
I need to stand out Joaquin Buckley from this card, he is finally back on winning in style after KO against Andre Fialho, and you can watch this great kick here in highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iewGRhc-pm0

I need to speak about Dana White again... he trash talked Francis Ngannou again so he is obviously but hurt a lot  Tongue
This is what Francis replied to him:

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What is your problem with me?

1. I completed my contract, was a free agent, and chose to walk away. you didn’t release me

2. I hate taking risks? that’s why I defended my title to fulfill my contract with no acl or mcl?

3. The reason I fought three times in three years is because you wanted to control my deal and signs a new one. And freeze me out. “I owe these guys three fights a year.” Isn’t that what you say? What happened? I always asked for & never said no to any fight in the 3 years

I’m finally getting paid and respected, and have a deal that’s fair and equal for all parties. Why are you so against me being free and happy?
https://twitter.com/francis_ngannou/status/1660349269197590528

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May 22, 2023, 09:37:27 AM
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And the favorites won. Thankfully.  Wink


Mackenzie Dern won with a unanimous decision against Angela Hill. Her left eye was swollen, I hope she is okay. Also, it looks like she had not strengthened her takedown defense yet. Dern's big points came from takedowns and she also won the stand-up fight.
I don't know how Angela survived that round 3 dominating ground and pound by Dern but I think it was all heart and toughness and I praise her for that.
She needs more work if she wants to win, obviously, it's the takedown defense that must be improved and how she will come back if she experiences that same position.

The other two winners are from a KO/TKO.
Anthony Hernandez was stopped by the referee due to Edmen not fighting back early in Round 3.
Joaquin Buckley is the busy worker, and Fialho is not throwing many punches or kicks until he was caught with a head kick in the chin that ended the fight.

Congrats to you man surely all those underdogs really don't stand a chance, against most of the favorites, I likely see Edmen Shahbazyan surely has a slight chance he also did great at the beginning of the rounds in getting the pace but still when Anthony Hernandez get into the takedowns Shahbazyan doesn't have a good defense on it, then Shahbazyan gas out because of those takedowns and submission attempts of Hernandez that was the time when he got into the ground and pound position,


I need to speak about Dana White again... he trash talked Francis Ngannou again so he is obviously but hurt a lot  Tongue
This is what Francis replied to him:

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What is your problem with me?

1. I completed my contract, was a free agent, and chose to walk away. you didn’t release me

2. I hate taking risks? that’s why I defended my title to fulfill my contract with no acl or mcl?

3. The reason I fought three times in three years is because you wanted to control my deal and signs a new one. And freeze me out. “I owe these guys three fights a year.” Isn’t that what you say? What happened? I always asked for & never said no to any fight in the 3 years

I’m finally getting paid and respected, and have a deal that’s fair and equal for all parties. Why are you so against me being free and happy?
https://twitter.com/francis_ngannou/status/1660349269197590528

Surely we all need to address the situation right now Dana White's mind is frustrated about that PFL contract signing because even though it is not really targeted towards him it was targeted at the UFC salary and payment of a fighter that the organization is keeping a blind eye because nothing is keeping an eye about the well being of their fighter

This contract signing is a huge leap for the PFL in getting very much well-known to some, if they started adopting combat sports that has a ONE Championship type they can now cater even Boxing or Mhuay Thai matches or they could have variation so they they still benefit from Ngannou's boxing fight,

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May 22, 2023, 07:05:03 PM
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Of all those who left UFC, only Francis got up and made his way up again making Dana look like the bad guy.
Some UFC fighters are just silent about their complaints and just kiss ass like Cormier. While Dana has favorites like Conor who can do just about anything or Suga who can just step right on and get a belt fight.

I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.


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May 22, 2023, 09:58:48 PM
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Now that the event of UFC Fight Night: Dern vs. Hill is settled I think it is time to move again with a different event, and right now the next event is

UFC Fight Night: Kara-France vs. Albazi

Date & Time: 06.03.2023 at 06:00 PM ET
Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States



MAIN EVENT
Kai Kara-France VS Amir Albazi

CO-MAIN EVENT
Alex Caceres VS Daniel Pineda

MAIN CARD
Jim Miller VS Jared Gordon
Tim Elliott VS Victor Altamirano
Karine Silva VS Ketlen Souza
Guram Kutateladze VS Jamie Mullarkey

PRELIMINARY CARD
Elizeu Zaleski VS Abubakar Nurmagomedov
John Castañeda VS Mateus Mendonça
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Matches to look out for are Lacera vs Blackshear, Santos vs Munoz, Kutateladze vs Mullarkey, Elliott vs Altamirano, the co main and the main event...  And it's another gap week.  :/  No UFC this weekend folks.

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I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.
I think he is crazy already, and maybe it is time for him to retire from his job as a slave master.
Maybe Dana is overdosing with drugs a lot these days, he is now in conflict with another fighter Aljamain Sterling, who asked him to stop calling his name.
They had to make one hour video, Aljamain Sterling Responds To Dana Whites Criticisms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-2FA18BDFc

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Of all those who left UFC, only Francis got up and made his way up again making Dana look like the bad guy.
Some UFC fighters are just silent about their complaints and just kiss ass like Cormier. While Dana has favorites like Conor who can do just about anything or Suga who can just step right on and get a belt fight.

I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.

Well, surely Francis Ngannou is the only one who has the balls to set the course right if no one has the balls to loudly say it no one will surely be free from the hierarchy, well, it is really Unavoidable that Dana White will surely have his favorites I really think it is normal for more people to have a favorite thing, and in this case, I think Dana White doesn't really like Aljamain Sterling that he is fitting him with those top fight that he has recently given, It is clear that White doesn't really have respect for his fighters there maybe a couple of fighters but most of them they are replaceable,


I think this one's better than the last event on paper but the last event turned out to be a banger with a few matches turning out to be better than expected.  Lol.  I hope this one doesn't disappoint.

Matches to look out for are Lacera vs Blackshear, Santos vs Munoz, Kutateladze vs Mullarkey, Elliott vs Altamirano, the co main and the main event...  And it's another gap week.  :/  No UFC this weekend folks.

As I have said it was really a banger even though we are quick to judge the outcome of the event it delivers great results, while the next event could have potential but I really don't want to say it will be a great event anything can happen well what happens in the recent match that was probably a banger for some

Mackenzie Dern VS Angela Hill Even though it was a decision win, Mackenzie Dern was on top and was dominating Angela Hill, Dern doesn't have enough time to make a good position for her submission attempts, Dern has delivered a good performance,

Anthony Hernandez  VS Edmen Shahbazyan This is where the banger starts, these two have really great Edmen Shahbazyan has a great start but surely I was right when Choosing Hernandez, he got better control and has a lot of ways to defeat Edmen Shahbazyan,

Joaquin Buckley  VS Andre Fialho That unseen kick was awesome and Buckley can surely do it better,

Diego Ferreira VS Michael Johnson

Viacheslav Borshchev  VS  Maheshate

Viacheslav Borshchev  VS Maheshate

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I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.
I think he is crazy already, and maybe it is time for him to retire from his job as a slave master.
Maybe Dana is overdosing with drugs a lot these days, he is now in conflict with another fighter Aljamain Sterling, who asked him to stop calling his name.
They had to make one hour video, Aljamain Sterling Responds To Dana Whites Criticisms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-2FA18BDFc

Dana White is best PFL promoter ever  Grin

Dana White is certainly looking like a bad guy or someone who can't run the UFC anymore. Now I am not saying that it's true. I believe he has done a really good job with the UFC so far. But at the same time, I also believe that the pay of a fighter should have gone up a lot more compared to what it is right now. So far no fighter has been able to get out of the UFC and make more money. Until Francis.

So, now a lot of the fighters are actually starting to think that they actually deserve more money and they are also opening up about it. But at the same time, I think they have to remember that they are not all Francis Ngannou Wink.

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I doubt that UFC are going to re-watch their contracts and pay their fighters more. Maybe in 5 or 10 years, and this is just maybe. If one said he isnt paid enough, then if others would do same, it will ruin balance between fighters popularity, sales, fight reward. Many compare boxers salary and UFC fighters salary. I dont get why they compare boxing super star with fighters salary who is in the middle of the top. Why nobody speaks that UFC get fight of the night, KO and etc rewards, while boxers dont get that. Take average boxer and average UFC fighter. Both get more or less similar payment, but UFC fighter is able to get +50k for a knockout. Then who is getting paid more?

Why do people compare boxing and MMA anyway? Two different kind of sport. For example I have never seen beach football or mini 5 vs 5 football players complain that they get less than Ronaldo or Messi. Or field hockey complain that they dont get millions like Ovechkin.

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^  I'm hopeful tbh.  If there's some good money to be made for all people involved then I could see why a cross promotion bout isn't possible.  As a pure fan I'd just like to watch the best fighters go at it.  I really think Ngannou will give Jones his first KO. 

Anyway I found a new site that's gonna be a good replacement for Best Fight Odds...  It's called...  *drum roll* ...  Fight Odds.  Lol.

https://fightodds.io/

But it's really good as they have a tools section.  In there you could do some research and it even suggest which matches to tape study depending on which of the fighter's strengths you wanna look at. 

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I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.
I think he is crazy already, and maybe it is time for him to retire from his job as a slave master.
Maybe Dana is overdosing with drugs a lot these days, he is now in conflict with another fighter Aljamain Sterling, who asked him to stop calling his name.
They had to make one hour video, Aljamain Sterling Responds To Dana Whites Criticisms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-2FA18BDFc

Dana White is best PFL promoter ever  Grin

Dana White is certainly looking like a bad guy or someone who can't run the UFC anymore. Now I am not saying that it's true. I believe he has done a really good job with the UFC so far. But at the same time, I also believe that the pay of a fighter should have gone up a lot more compared to what it is right now. So far no fighter has been able to get out of the UFC and make more money. Until Francis.

So, now a lot of the fighters are actually starting to think that they actually deserve more money and they are also opening up about it. But at the same time, I think they have to remember that they are not all Francis Ngannou Wink.

Ngannou's PFL contract will make UFC fighters underpaid and Sterling being very vocal of what he thinks about Dana. He must be ready to also go somewhere else, he's young and can go to any promotion thats not toxic.

First fight of Francis under PFL will be watched by every fans and his fellow fighters from all promotions thats for sure. They'll see that Francis did a right decision thinking they too could do it without Dana.


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Ngannou's PFL contract will make UFC fighters underpaid and Sterling being very vocal of what he thinks about Dana. He must be ready to also go somewhere else, he's young and can go to any promotion thats not toxic.

First fight of Francis under PFL will be watched by every fans and his fellow fighters from all promotions thats for sure. They'll see that Francis did a right decision thinking they too could do it without Dana.

If the fighters are actually successful in transitioning to other fight clubs, you know, it is actually going to cause the UFC a lot of problems. I have to say if Francis can actually be successful it is going to make a lot of other fighters think about moving out to other fight clubs from UFC. That is suddenly going to reduce the revenue for UFC.

Of course, the fans are also going to go somewhere else other than the UFC for fun. And you cannot sell a fight if there are no people to watch that fight. If UFC does not make big changes and start paying the fighters a lot more they are going to get hit badly. And by the time Dana White is going to think of doing something it is going to be a little too late.

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May 23, 2023, 09:52:41 PM
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Of all those who left UFC, only Francis got up and made his way up again making Dana look like the bad guy.
Some UFC fighters are just silent about their complaints and just kiss ass like Cormier. While Dana has favorites like Conor who can do just about anything or Suga who can just step right on and get a belt fight.

I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.

even talking about this issue of privileging some and leaving others aside, I have seen many fighters who have had a career for many years but who only had a few fights and I don't need to be a fortune teller to know that the financial situation of these athletes with long careers and few fights they don't have a good financial situation, I don't know if it's because they don't attract much attention from the public or if it's because Dana doesn't like them or because the fights are only held on weekends, anyway, I don't know what really happens, but without a doubt that There should be equal treatment for everyone, even the losers should be treated well, but what seems to me is that the money that enters the UFC's pocket is more important than the life and well-being of all athletes

It's ironic that it's the athletes who risk their lives but the ones who end up with a lot of money are the guys in luxury suits, it's really a very unpleasant situation.

UFC generated ‘record revenues’ in 2022 including ‘the best sponsorship year ever’

I keep asking myself what their profit will be this year when they release the financial reports, meanwhile most athletes are complaining far away for fear of reprisals

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May 24, 2023, 07:16:47 AM
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Dana White is certainly looking like a bad guy or someone who can't run the UFC anymore. Now I am not saying that it's true. I believe he has done a really good job with the UFC so far. But at the same time, I also believe that the pay of a fighter should have gone up a lot more compared to what it is right now. So far no fighter has been able to get out of the UFC and make more money. Until Francis.

So, now a lot of the fighters are actually starting to think that they actually deserve more money and they are also opening up about it. But at the same time, I think they have to remember that they are not all Francis Ngannou Wink.

I truly believe that this PFL and Ngannou Collaboration will surely start a ripple in the MMA community no doubt about that, but Dana White will be Dana White knowing him he would likely just ignore all this but that PFL contract will surely be itching on the back of his head, I really think PFL would know about this that it will be the talk of the community but so far I really think this is a good start for a change, and right now because of that itch, Dana White is now promoting a Tyson Fury VS Jon Jones fight it all started with Joe Rogan saying that Jon Jones could beat Tyson Fury on a street fight and the boxing kingpin really doesn't like it at all and yeah that sets up to this statement here is what Dana White has said in the Article,

I doubt that UFC are going to re-watch their contracts and pay their fighters more. Maybe in 5 or 10 years, and this is just maybe. If one said he isnt paid enough, then if others would do same, it will ruin balance between fighters popularity, sales, fight reward. Many compare boxers salary and UFC fighters salary. I dont get why they compare boxing super star with fighters salary who is in the middle of the top. Why nobody speaks that UFC get fight of the night, KO and etc rewards, while boxers dont get that. Take average boxer and average UFC fighter. Both get more or less similar payment, but UFC fighter is able to get +50k for a knockout. Then who is getting paid more?

Why do people compare boxing and MMA anyway? Two different kind of sport. For example I have never seen beach football or mini 5 vs 5 football players complain that they get less than Ronaldo or Messi. Or field hockey complain that they dont get millions like Ovechkin.

Well, Dana White can literally ignore it if they don't want their contract pay then they can leave UFC, you can not surely see a difference in just a matter of seconds in the UFC with just a ripple of contract signing for PFL it will have to be successful for Dana White to move on his feet and do something himself, this is going to be a long weekend for the UFC,

Well I agree with you we can not compare boxing with MMA because it is all different but if an MMA fighter will be fighting for boxing rules or a boxer will be fighting for the MMA rules the payment could still be the same or the payment for boxing should apply?

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May 24, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
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Well I agree with you we can not compare boxing with MMA because it is all different but if an MMA fighter will be fighting for boxing rules or a boxer will be fighting for the MMA rules the payment could still be the same or the payment for boxing should apply?

Lets start with what is "boxing payment" ? How much boxers get paid? If we put aside champions and those who are famous (like Mayweather), how much a regular boxer earn? I think I have posted here year or years ago, that average boxers payment is more or less equal to average UFC fighter get.

Now lets talk about how much UFC champion and boxing champion get. We all know that UFC champions get "lets say below several millions" probably. A champ like Makhachev, Izzy or Volkan would get a million probably. If we somehow get Chuck Liddell back and he becomes a champ, he would get millions. We all know that boxers get tens millions per fight.

The whole concept of boxing promotion and UFC promotion are different. We get like 1-2 boxing events per year, and around 40 UFC events. The money UFC spent on maintaining all of them are greater than few boxing fights. UFC dont have so much money to pay millions every champ and famous fighter. And boxing has richer sponsors. Who are UFC main sponsors? Reebok? Stake? Bunch of other famous brands. Having Hennessy as a boxing sponsor is greater than all UFC sponsors multiplied by ten. Hennessy, part of LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton group. Its owner, Bernard Arnault - richest person in the world; has double more money than Bezos Cheesy This guy wipes his ass with what UFC champ gets for a fight Grin

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May 24, 2023, 11:35:09 AM
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No event this weekend, and next weekend will be the only event I'll be able to watch for a few weeks. Hopefully, it'll be a good one. I was one fight from earning a decent amount last weekend. That always seems the case though, and the annoying bit was I had by submission or decision for Anthony, and he ended the fight via TKO in the third round. So, it was definitely a close one.
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May 24, 2023, 11:54:36 AM
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No event this weekend

UFC always offer some free fights to watch on their YouTube channel --> https://www.youtube.com/@ufc/videos.

In case someone is from the country, where free video hosting and torrents are blocked and their have access only to "legal stuff", there are always free fights in good quality from official UFC YouTube channel. Of course people can always find fights on YouTube, but a lot of them are with someone talking on background, creepy viewing angle and etc. That is why I suggest to check official channel for quality Cheesy  Cool

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