🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[Blitzboy]

Charles never fails to keep your excitement up all through out the game. Even when Charles is down there he still manages to throws elbow and hammer fist to Dariush making him think twice of his plans. When Dariush got the head kick and saw Charles right close to him, he panics right away.

Nunes is too intimidating for Aldana, she just watch Nunes do her thing. At 35 and with two belts still with her, I think its also a good time for Nunes to retire.

Charles truly deserves commendation? His unyielding resolve is truly admirable. In spite of finding himself on the ropes, he strategically forced Dariush to reassess his tactics with the deployment of his calculated elbow and hammer fist techniques. It certainly illustrates his unparalleled dedication, doesn't it?

Turning our attention to Nunes, her devotion is seemingly in a class of its own. She handles her twin championships with the tenderness of a mother. Yet, everyone deserves respite. Perhaps the moment has arrived for Nunes to transition from boxing gloves to the comfort of leisure footwear. One could argue that retirement would aptly crown her illustrious career, right?

As we look towards the future, what lies in store for Charles and Nunes? Will they persist in their athletic competition, or is it time for them to yield the stage to the forthcoming generation?

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[TopTort777]

Now that we have settled the UFC 289 Main event I think it is time to move forward for another great event this coming weekend,

Both fights, main and co main event are great. Cannonier and Vettori are about to decide, which one of them are going to be beaten by Adesanya Or first they gonna face Whittaker and then the winner gonna get beaten by Adesanya. It seems that middleweight division is getting boring, as Izzy has already beaten those guy, and some of them even twice.

Dont know much about Joaquim Silva. He is not in top of lightweight. And his UFC record isnt impressive. Dont why Tsarukyan if fighting him.

[tokeweed]

^  I don't think either of those guys will go on to get another title shot.  I guess the winner will get another top 5 guy while the loser will the thrown to a top prospect.  Lol.  As for Whittaker vs Du Plessis, I think Du Plessis gets a chance to fight for the belt due to being a new face at top 5 but Whittaker winning will make it iffy for the match makers.  He deserves another title shot imo but he already fight Adesanya twice and lost.  :/  I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

Anyway, here's another fight replay.  Enjoy...

UFC Free Fight:  Canonnier vs Brunson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlGB3PuddUo

[TopTort777]

I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

How many times Figueredo fought Moreno? How many times Conor fought Poirier ? Adesanya met Pereira 4 times... It is so hard to get a title fight nowadays. Ranked guys dont want to fight unranked or those who are lower than they are. It is so stupid to see same guys fight each other again and again, that UFC should make a best of 3 or something like that to get a belt. Like NHL and NBA have in later part of tournament. (best of 3 or 5, I dont remember).

[Smack That Ace]

I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

How many times Figueredo fought Moreno? How many times Conor fought Poirier ? Adesanya met Pereira 4 times... It is so hard to get a title fight nowadays. Ranked guys dont want to fight unranked or those who are lower than they are. It is so stupid to see same guys fight each other again and again, that UFC should make a best of 3 or something like that to get a belt. Like NHL and NBA have in later part of tournament. (best of 3 or 5, I dont remember).

It is actually really boring to see the same fighters fight against each other again and again. Of course, sometimes it is actually very fun. And some fights do have the potential to live up to the expectation. Like if we could see a Connor McGregor versus Khabib Nurmagomedov, or maybe Tony Ferguson it was going to be great. Even after the Khabib versus Tony, the fight got canceled again, and again, I believe people still would have wanted to see that fight.

Right now I believe that UFC is actually out of ideas. They do not know which fight is going to sell them the most amount of tickets. That’s why they are trying to sell the fight that has already sold them some amount of tickets. At least that’s what I believe. I also think that the UFC right now needs someone like Conor McGregor who can sell fights really well.

Duke Khan

[bittraffic]

I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

How many times Figueredo fought Moreno? How many times Conor fought Poirier ? Adesanya met Pereira 4 times... It is so hard to get a title fight nowadays. Ranked guys dont want to fight unranked or those who are lower than they are. It is so stupid to see same guys fight each other again and again, that UFC should make a best of 3 or something like that to get a belt. Like NHL and NBA have in later part of tournament. (best of 3 or 5, I dont remember).

It is actually really boring to see the same fighters fight against each other again and again. Of course, sometimes it is actually very fun. And some fights do have the potential to live up to the expectation. Like if we could see a Connor McGregor versus Khabib Nurmagomedov, or maybe Tony Ferguson it was going to be great. Even after the Khabib versus Tony, the fight got canceled again, and again, I believe people still would have wanted to see that fight.

Right now I believe that UFC is actually out of ideas. They do not know which fight is going to sell them the most amount of tickets. That’s why they are trying to sell the fight that has already sold them some amount of tickets. At least that’s what I believe. I also think that the UFC right now needs someone like Conor McGregor who can sell fights really well.

Duke Khan

McGregor will be the underdog even vs Aldo. We already know the result of the match if McGregor is put inside a cage whoever he's fighting. Figueredo vs Moreno is a fair fight, they've been rivals for quite a while and it becomes a subject to analyze their advantages to each other.

Adesanya needs to move up, it will keep fans guessing who would win in his next fight. He tried it once with Jan Blackovich, this time against Pereira. 

[Godday]

I think this is a natural thing that happens in combat sports. Especially in MMA. Sometimes in a division there are terms of top 5 fighters, top 10 and so on. This happens to describe the strength and competitiveness of a division.
Back in lightweight when Khabib was king there, we saw names like Tony, Dustin and Justin who dominated lightweight so they were called the top 4. Meaning that the four of them were quite competitive and the others were very difficult to crack. title fight.
The UFC needs new faces to run its business. But if the old warriors have had enough of us and are dominating then they can't do anything about it either.

I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

I thought the Adesanya vs Whittaker fight would be boring. In the previous two matches, Adesanya had dominated Whittaker too much. It's not like Figueredo vs Moreno or Holloway vs Volkanovski. We are always curious about the results of their matches so they can face each other 3 and 4 times.

I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

How many times Figueredo fought Moreno? How many times Conor fought Poirier ? Adesanya met Pereira 4 times... It is so hard to get a title fight nowadays. Ranked guys dont want to fight unranked or those who are lower than they are. It is so stupid to see same guys fight each other again and again, that UFC should make a best of 3 or something like that to get a belt. Like NHL and NBA have in later part of tournament. (best of 3 or 5, I dont remember).

That is a good idea. I don't know about the NFL but do you mean like after a fighter has faced each other 3 or 5 times then they can't fight anymore? But actually what makes it difficult is if in a division there are fighters who are too dominating. For example, Adesanya is very dominant in the middle class. Then there is Whittaker who, even though he has lost 2 times to Adesanya, but he can finish off other opponents in middleweight. It's impossible for us to say "Whittaker can't go to the title fight because he has already lost 2 against Adesanya and has to wait for a new champion to get tittle shot again"

[TopTort777]

But actually what makes it difficult is if in a division there are fighters who are too dominating. For example, Adesanya is very dominant in the middle class. Then there is Whittaker who, even though he has lost 2 times to Adesanya, but he can finish off other opponents in middleweight. It's impossible for us to say "Whittaker can't go to the title fight because he has already lost 2 against Adesanya and has to wait for a new champion to get tittle shot again"

If a fighter is dominant in one division, then he must more up or down, to be able to hold two belt. But even that wont add much of an entertainment. As he hold a belt, he will fight other division champion, he wont have to beat 2-4 guys in other division to get a title fight.

Regards Whittaker already lost 2 times to Adesanya and should not fight him for third time - that is the problem of all fighters. Lets say they have already "spent their skill points on skill they have". Results of the third fight will be same as first, win by Adesanya. Or there is a small chance of a lucky punch by Whittaker. Nearly 99.99% of fighters fight in same style and tactics over and over again. If you won them several times, then you have read them like a book, cracked them, found key to their defense. The best way is to reroll to other class (like in RPG lol ), but in fighting it impossible to become a wrestler to next fight, while you have been a boxer for entire life. Fighters need years. But they want all and now.

[tokeweed]

I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

How many times Figueredo fought Moreno? How many times Conor fought Poirier ? Adesanya met Pereira 4 times... It is so hard to get a title fight nowadays. Ranked guys dont want to fight unranked or those who are lower than they are. It is so stupid to see same guys fight each other again and again, that UFC should make a best of 3 or something like that to get a belt. Like NHL and NBA have in later part of tournament. (best of 3 or 5, I dont remember).

Moreno was a tough match up for Fig tho, who at the time Fig was like thought to dominate 125 for years like how Anderson Silva dominated the middle weight division.  Little did we know there was a little guy from Mexico who would change the landscape in the fly weight division.

Anyway looking more closely at this weekend's match ups, it could be one of those cards for underdogs.  There could be around 7 underdogs winning it.  Should've thought it over before making my picks at the Multi Master.

[Smack That Ace]

McGregor will be the underdog even vs Aldo. We already know the result of the match if McGregor is put inside a cage whoever he's fighting. Figueredo vs Moreno is a fair fight, they've been rivals for quite a while and it becomes a subject to analyze their advantages to each other.

Adesanya needs to move up, it will keep fans guessing who would win in his next fight. He tried it once with Jan Blackovich, this time against Pereira. 

At this moment, I believe UFC is going through it muted time. I think the way they will be able to be back in every sports conversation is if they get someone like Conor McGregor again, who can talk really well. They really need someone who can sell fights like Conor McGregor did. And we all know that Conor McGregor could sell any fight. We saw really good potential in Israel Adesanya, but he is becoming boring day by day. Paddy Pimblett also had shown the potential for selling fights. But he was nowhere near the level of Conor McGregor.

Regards

Duke

[owengtam09]

Charles truly deserves commendation? His unyielding resolve is truly admirable. In spite of finding himself on the ropes, he strategically forced Dariush to reassess his tactics with the deployment of his calculated elbow and hammer fist techniques. It certainly illustrates his unparalleled dedication, doesn't it?

Turning our attention to Nunes, her devotion is seemingly in a class of its own. She handles her twin championships with the tenderness of a mother. Yet, everyone deserves respite. Perhaps the moment has arrived for Nunes to transition from boxing gloves to the comfort of leisure footwear. One could argue that retirement would aptly crown her illustrious career, right?

As we look towards the future, what lies in store for Charles and Nunes? Will they persist in their athletic competition, or is it time for them to yield the stage to the forthcoming generation?

Charles Oliveira deserves a shot at the title for sure I will be seeing to it that he is the new and improved version and Islam Makhachev might be training right now after seeing this performance that Charles Oliveira did with Beneil Dariush but I guess Islam Makhachev has already improved so much because of what Alexander Volkanovski has done to him he outwrestled Makhachev in their fight for sure Makhachev will have an answer the next time they fight,

For sure Charles Oliveira will keep on battling inside the Octagon after that fight with Beneil Dariush and what he has said in the fight interview he has shouted who is the champion for sure he is ready for a rematch with Makhachev, while Amanda Nunes is free from fighting and have settled a great life with her family,

^  I don't think either of those guys will go on to get another title shot.  I guess the winner will get another top 5 guy while the loser will the thrown to a top prospect.  Lol.  As for Whittaker vs Du Plessis, I think Du Plessis gets a chance to fight for the belt due to being a new face at top 5 but Whittaker winning will make it iffy for the match makers.  He deserves another title shot imo but he already fight Adesanya twice and lost.  :/  I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

Anyway, here's another fight replay.  Enjoy...

UFC Free Fight:  Canonnier vs Brunson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlGB3PuddUo

I agree, Marvin Vettori and Jared Cannoneer will always look for fights just because of the money for now if Israel Adesanya is still champion they can not attain the belt as long as Izzy is still here, and instead of going for the Hunter (Izzy) they will go with the easy fight for money, while the losses will be the gateway for the upcoming prospect of the Middleweight,

I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

How many times Figueredo fought Moreno? How many times Conor fought Poirier ? Adesanya met Pereira 4 times... It is so hard to get a title fight nowadays. Ranked guys dont want to fight unranked or those who are lower than they are. It is so stupid to see same guys fight each other again and again, that UFC should make a best of 3 or something like that to get a belt. Like NHL and NBA have in later part of tournament. (best of 3 or 5, I dont remember).

Fighting the top guys can assure a large sum of money even though if they lost that fight, or maybe they are getting those title shot fight expecting to defeat the champion this time with a lucky punch, or a fluke win, I don't really know what they are thinking but they surely want to give it a try even though they might end up losing it, but maybe your suggestion could be seen by the UFC as an idea for those boring same fights,

[GxSTxV]

I'm not sure if you all have heard or posted anything about the incident involving McGregor, where he inadvertently knocked out the Miami Heat mascot with two punches. Although it seems to have been unintentional and a part of that show announcement it was still an aggressive act from a UFC fighter who was meant to be a guest at the NBA Finals event and announce the partnership.
The mascot, who had no connection to McGregor unfortunately suffered the consequences and been sent to hospital. In my opinion the announcement of the partnership between UFC and the NBA went terribly wrong as it is inappropriate to blend a professional fighting sport like UFC with other sports in such a violent manner.

[Source of this news ] : https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2023/06/10/conor-mcgregor-miami-heat-mascot-burnie-emergency-room/70309691007/

[TopTort777]

I'm not sure if you all have heard or posted anything about the incident involving McGregor, where he inadvertently knocked out the Miami Heat mascot with two punches. Although it seems to have been unintentional and a part of that show announcement it was still an aggressive act from a UFC fighter who was meant to be a guest at the NBA Finals event and announce the partnership.
The mascot, who had no connection to McGregor unfortunately suffered the consequences and been sent to hospital. In my opinion the announcement of the partnership between UFC and the NBA went terribly wrong as it is inappropriate to blend a professional fighting sport like UFC with other sports in such a violent manner.

[Source of this news ] : https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2023/06/10/conor-mcgregor-miami-heat-mascot-burnie-emergency-room/70309691007/

I bet this all is staged just to get attention to NBA and TUF new season, where McGregor is one of the couches. In case someone watches that show, then Conor third fighter lost his fight. This is 3-0 in Chandler favor right now. I think show is loosing views and audience, because Chandler is doing something with his team, but Conors strategy is "I am not a teacher in kindergarten. If they want to be champs, they have to give their best".

Lol, I cant simply pass that meme Belal is such a boring and one sided fighter, that people make fun of that in the internet.

[YuginKadoya]

Now that we have settled the UFC 289 Main event I think it is time to move forward for another great event this coming weekend,

Both fights, main and co main event are great. Cannonier and Vettori are about to decide, which one of them are going to be beaten by Adesanya Or first they gonna face Whittaker and then the winner gonna get beaten by Adesanya. It seems that middleweight division is getting boring, as Izzy has already beaten those guy, and some of them even twice.

Dont know much about Joaquim Silva. He is not in top of lightweight. And his UFC record isnt impressive. Dont why Tsarukyan if fighting him.

Well, we can say the least if Jared Cannonier or Marvin Vettori could now have a chance against Adesanya but for me, Jared Cannonier could have a slight chance, but this is just my intuition saying but in reality, because of Vettori's great performance against Paulo Costa and having much weight from him and he still manages to win this that fight could also indicate that Marvin Vettori has upped his game but for sure Jared Canonier has a slight chance to Adesanya than Vettori,

For me, Arman Tsarukyan is more technical than his opponent Joaquim Silva, But this is just for I will be looking at Arman Tsarukyan's fight against Mateusz Gamrot and how he lost against him while Joaquim Silva's fight with Ricky Glenn if I could see a chance for the other fight to use this footage for themselves,

^  I don't think either of those guys will go on to get another title shot.  I guess the winner will get another top 5 guy while the loser will the thrown to a top prospect.  Lol.  As for Whittaker vs Du Plessis, I think Du Plessis gets a chance to fight for the belt due to being a new face at top 5 but Whittaker winning will make it iffy for the match makers.  He deserves another title shot imo but he already fight Adesanya twice and lost.  :/  I mean how could the UFC market Adesanya vs Whittaker 3?

Anyway, here's another fight replay.  Enjoy...

UFC Free Fight:  Canonnier vs Brunson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlGB3PuddUo

I think they know what is they are after they fight each other if they want a title shot they shy can't they if they know in themselves that they can now defeat Israel Adesanya then why not, but for sure this is one crucial fight for them but for me in my opinion I think going to money fights will be OK with them, they now experience Israel Adesanya and they also witness the down fall and rise of Israel Adesanya again, i think they know what they are doing now,

[TopTort777]

Trivia for YuginKadoya - guess the kitten



Now to Vettori vs Cannonier, who do you think gonna win? If look on paper, then Cannonier gonna try to KO Vettori, while Vettori gonna throw more accented punches and do more control. Why Vettori often say he gonna KO his opponent, when he usually wins by sub or decision? All of his losses are also bu decision. Is Cannonier gonna be first one who would KO Marvin? What can Vettori show, if among all of his UFC fight, only two ended by early stoppage. Either Vettori dont have enough skills for early finish, or likes to brawl. In a brawl, Cannonier with high KO % is my favorite.

[tokeweed]

^  Vettori has more volume, he's a better wrestler and prolly more durable than Cannonier even though Cannonier looks like a scary gorrila.  But there's something about Cannonier that makes fighters become less aggressive and less likely to follow the same game plan that they originally have.  It turns them into counter strikers just like him.  Lol.  Maybe it's the..  Oh I don't know...  His KO power? 

But yeah, I have Cannonnier but not that confident to put a bet on it.

[danherbias07]

Right now I believe that UFC is actually out of ideas. They do not know which fight is going to sell them the most amount of tickets. That’s why they are trying to sell the fight that has already sold them some amount of tickets. At least that’s what I believe. I also think that the UFC right now needs someone like Conor McGregor who can sell fights really well.

Duke Khan

They need a new villain.
This kind of strategy does work. People hate the other guy but he keeps on winning his fights. It can boost the market by a lot because people would love to see the villain being banged hard after a boastful win. Or just looking for their new hero that would silence the beast.
Even if it's not totally a villain, just that arrogant fighter that could make the fans go wild in their imagination of how he will look when he is beaten up. Like the Diaz brothers. But I do love those two, the heart of not giving up even if their bleeding like hell.

That is a good idea. I don't know about the NFL but do you mean like after a fighter has faced each other 3 or 5 times then they can't fight anymore? But actually what makes it difficult is if in a division there are fighters who are too dominating. For example, Adesanya is very dominant in the middle class. Then there is Whittaker who, even though he has lost 2 times to Adesanya, but he can finish off other opponents in middleweight. It's impossible for us to say "Whittaker can't go to the title fight because he has already lost 2 against Adesanya and has to wait for a new champion to get tittle shot again"

It's like a series. Race to three or four. They keep on making matches on two fighters especially if they are tied in the series. There's the thought of "they are equally matched" so predicting the winner is difficult and the fans will be divided because of that, so it will click on the market even if they just keep on fighting over and over.

[Smack That Ace]

Right now I believe that UFC is actually out of ideas. They do not know which fight is going to sell them the most amount of tickets. That’s why they are trying to sell the fight that has already sold them some amount of tickets. At least that’s what I believe. I also think that the UFC right now needs someone like Conor McGregor who can sell fights really well.
Duke Khan

They need a new villain.
This kind of strategy does work. People hate the other guy but he keeps on winning his fights. It can boost the market by a lot because people would love to see the villain being banged hard after a boastful win. Or just looking for their new hero that would silence the beast.
Even if it's not totally a villain, just that arrogant fighter that could make the fans go wild in their imagination of how he will look when he is beaten up. Like the Diaz brothers. But I do love those two, the heart of not giving up even if their bleeding like hell.

I don’t think a villain is even going to work because Khamzat Chimaev is actually a great villain who started to make some noise. But he is not as interesting as he was before.

The only thing that is going to skyrocket the popularity of the UFC again is someone like Conor McGregor or Muhammad Ali. These are the people who are the best at selling fights. They can talk so well that they can sell almost anything. We know that the fighters which are emerging from Chechnya, the homeland of Khabib Nurmagomedov are very good, but I don’t think they are good at selling fights. And if a fighter cannot get people to see him fight it does not matter to some extent how he fights.

Regards

Duke

[Synchronice]

I don’t think a villain is even going to work because Khamzat Chimaev is actually a great villain who started to make some noise. But he is not as interesting as he was before.

The only thing that is going to skyrocket the popularity of the UFC again is someone like Conor McGregor or Muhammad Ali. These are the people who are the best at selling fights. They can talk so well that they can sell almost anything. We know that the fighters which are emerging from Chechnya, the homeland of Khabib Nurmagomedov are very good, but I don’t think they are good at selling fights. And if a fighter cannot get people to see him fight it does not matter to some extent how he fights.

Regards

Duke

Khamzat Chimaev, in terms of showman and promoter, is absolutely nothing compared to Conor McGregor.
Just have a look at this legendary weigh-in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWb1DRo_mo
Have a look at this legendary celebration of second belt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Szj21arytU
Have a look at this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOl7x8eF8Fs

There are tons of videos, tons of moments that Conor made memorably, not in a good way but his actions payed well. Or one should be as furious as Mike Tyson to sell fights but we have no one like Mike in UFC, Chechen fighters win fights but their fight style is very boring, boxing sells better than wrestling. Yes, Dustin Poirier is a good boxer, for example but not as furious as Mike Tyson, he is very soft compared to Mike. AS it seems, the ship is sinking without Conor. Conor's unique ability was that he was spitting on opponents faces but he was beating them after that.

[Smack That Ace]

Khamzat Chimaev, in terms of showman and promoter, is absolutely nothing compared to Conor McGregor.
Just have a look at this legendary weigh-in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWb1DRo_mo
Have a look at this legendary celebration of second belt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Szj21arytU
Have a look at this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOl7x8eF8Fs

There are tons of videos, tons of moments that Conor made memorably, not in a good way but his actions payed well. Or one should be as furious as Mike Tyson to sell fights but we have no one like Mike in UFC, Chechen fighters win fights but their fight style is very boring, boxing sells better than wrestling. Yes, Dustin Poirier is a good boxer, for example but not as furious as Mike Tyson, he is very soft compared to Mike. AS it seems, the ship is sinking without Conor. Conor's unique ability was that he was spitting on opponents faces but he was beating them after that.

Actually, UFC should also be blamed for the downfall of Conor McGregor. They have given him too much money and that’s why he does not care anymore. After the Conor McGregor versus Floyd Mayweather fight, Conor McGregor was absolutely out of the mindset of fighting. He took his millions of dollars and went to live an extravagant lifestyle. But the UFC should have known that they would face this situation. They should have been getting ready for this.

Right now, I don’t see anyone who can actually make so much noise as Conor McGregor did. He was the reason why UFC became more popular all around the world.

Regards

Duke