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July 07, 2019, 04:26:40 AM
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Again, it would be great to know if Wright's statements had truth behind them or not:

Of course not, do you really need to ask?

 - I was made a forum admin in 2011, after Satoshi left. (Silk Road also appeared after Satoshi left.) I didn't have any special access to bitcoin.org until around 2013, and in fact I didn't even have any access to the bitcointalk.org DNS until 2013.
 - I've never bought or sold anything on Silk Road, Hydra or similar sites; nor did I have anything whatsoever to do with their operation; nor AFAIK did I even have interactions with anyone involved in running these sites. While I am opposed to drug laws, I have never used illicit drugs, and in fact I also abstain from alcohol & nicotine. Furthermore, since the beginning I have warned over and over again that Tor is not secure against active government attacks: I wouldn't be found dead running one of these sites.
 - I never had any interaction with CSW. I don't have any keys related to CSW's (probably fictitious) SSS thing.

CSW's whole shtick is to just lie constantly. He's so brazen about it that some people think, "there must be some truth there," but really it's 100% nonsense.

I admit I was a little tempted to troll the world by roleplaying CSW's allegations as totally true...

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July 07, 2019, 04:56:31 AM
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Again, it would be great to know if Wright's statements had truth behind them or not:

Of course not, do you really need to ask?

I figured as much, but there's a billion dollar industry riding on him not being a pathologically-lying, conniving charlatan, so its good to have additional clarification.

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July 07, 2019, 05:53:34 AM
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Again, it would be great to know if Wright's statements had truth behind them or not:

Of course not, do you really need to ask?

 - I was made a forum admin in 2011, after Satoshi left. (Silk Road also appeared after Satoshi left.) I didn't have any special access to bitcoin.org until around 2013, and in fact I didn't even have any access to the bitcointalk.org DNS until 2013.
 - I've never bought or sold anything on Silk Road, Hydra or similar sites; nor did I have anything whatsoever to do with their operation; nor AFAIK did I even have interactions with anyone involved in running these sites. While I am opposed to drug laws, I have never used illicit drugs, and in fact I also abstain from alcohol & nicotine. Furthermore, since the beginning I have warned over and over again that Tor is not secure against active government attacks: I wouldn't be found dead running one of these sites.
 - I never had any interaction with CSW. I don't have any keys related to CSW's (probably fictitious) SSS thing.

CSW's whole shtick is to just lie constantly. He's so brazen about it that some people think, "there must be some truth there," but really it's 100% nonsense.

I admit I was a little tempted to troll the world by roleplaying CSW's allegations as totally true...

Is there a way for you to prove that you didn't have access until 2013? If so, you could consider sending that to Ira's lawyers. Martti Malmi is also considering to take legal action/contacting Ira's lawyers about the false claims Craig made.

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July 07, 2019, 06:42:16 AM
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Nice post and I would urge everyone to check out Lopps article on the subject, he really gathered and correlated a shitton of info.


https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/op-ed-how-many-wrongs-make-wright/



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July 07, 2019, 07:10:48 AM
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Realistically speaking, what sort of trouble csw got himself into this time? The transcripts are hilarious.

not anymore available.

Works for me. Or do you mean certain information have been edited out? There's also an archive.org snapshot from May: https://web.archive.org/web/20190509164954/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/op-ed-how-many-wrongs-make-wright/

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July 07, 2019, 08:43:37 AM
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Here is the court transcript from June 28th

https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/1146543713067208711

Some other news

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/07/04/federal-judges-orders-jail-following-civil-contempt-hearing-featuring-crypto-assets/

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July 07, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
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Realistically speaking, what sort of trouble csw got himself into this time? The transcripts are hilarious.

not anymore available.

Works for me. Or do you mean certain information have been edited out? There's also an archive.org snapshot from May: https://web.archive.org/web/20190509164954/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/op-ed-how-many-wrongs-make-wright/

thank you for the second link.
the first link works, but the paper does not appear on the page.
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July 07, 2019, 08:54:45 AM
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 #248

Again, it would be great to know if Wright's statements had truth behind them or not:

Of course not, do you really need to ask?

CSW's whole shtick is to just lie constantly. He's so brazen about it that some people think, "there must be some truth there," but really it's 100% nonsense.

Can't you sue this huge tool? I'm sure we could easily get that crowd-funded for you. I know you're probably against that too but this guy really needs to face some repercussions for his continued lies. It's absurd that he tries to sue anyone who even claims he isn't satoshi yet he is ok lying and completely slandering people. He's basically just told a court that you're a drug trafficker and child pornographer. Based on what evidence? Pretty sure you would have no problems in successfully suing him for that. This guy actually deserves to be in jail and I hope this court goes after him for perjury.

While I am opposed to drug laws, I have never used illicit drugs, and in fact I also abstain from alcohol & nicotine.

What about weed? Because as we all know weed is a plant and not a drug  Grin.

Realistically speaking, what sort of trouble csw got himself into this time? The transcripts are hilarious.

I haven't read the full transcripts and haven't been paying much attention but perjury for a start (assuming theymos isn't actually one of the many DPR's  Grin). I'm really hoping the court actually goes after him for these lies. Asking for any sort of proof of half of what he's saying would be enough. He basically just keeps lying to get himself out of another lie and he's going to slip up  under pressure and contradict himself if he hasn't already.

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July 07, 2019, 08:56:06 AM
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This guy actually deserves to be in jail

He will be there very soon.

What about weed? Because as we all know weed is a plant and not a drug  Grin.

It is legal in many countries.  Wink
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July 07, 2019, 09:13:57 AM
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not anymore available.

If I remember rightly it's geoblocked for 'legal reasons' so try a VPN from another country. I got the same and I'm in the UK. Craigy runs this goddamn country now doncha know. He IS power.

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July 07, 2019, 11:51:21 AM
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Again, it would be great to know if Wright's statements had truth behind them or not:

Even though Theymos disagrees, I believe there's a possibility Craig was part of a team known today as Satoshi.
Was he 50% Satoshi? 20%? 5%? We don't know and since he seems to be spreading at least some lies we can't trust his words.

For me, it doesn't matter. It's obvious he's not a trustworthy person and therefore I'd stay away from whatever involves him. If hd helped in creating Bitcoin has no meaning at the moment since he's not controlling it.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5075713.msg48272597#msg48272597

Oh yea, good reminder. Devs split, not Bitcoin  protocol

Who was trustworthy then? Would not Satoshi react that ranting way if he decides to come back an see the segregation shit?

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Yes, absolutely drag this cunt through more courts, Martti.....

https://twitter.com/marttimalmi/status/1147485758971924480
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Again, it would be great to know if Wright's statements had truth behind them or not:

Of course not, do you really need to ask?

 - I was made a forum admin in 2011, after Satoshi left. (Silk Road also appeared after Satoshi left.) I didn't have any special access to bitcoin.org until around 2013, and in fact I didn't even have any access to the bitcointalk.org DNS until 2013.
 - I've never bought or sold anything on Silk Road, Hydra or similar sites; nor did I have anything whatsoever to do with their operation; nor AFAIK did I even have interactions with anyone involved in running these sites. While I am opposed to drug laws, I have never used illicit drugs, and in fact I also abstain from alcohol & nicotine. Furthermore, since the beginning I have warned over and over again that Tor is not secure against active government attacks: I wouldn't be found dead running one of these sites.
 - I never had any interaction with CSW. I don't have any keys related to CSW's (probably fictitious) SSS thing.

CSW's whole shtick is to just lie constantly. He's so brazen about it that some people think, "there must be some truth there," but really it's 100% nonsense.

I admit I was a little tempted to troll the world by roleplaying CSW's allegations as totally true...

Sue him, expose him, make him bleed bigtime.

He deserves to be crushed and jailed.

He would use your silence as an "evidence" to keep on with his act and his narrative.
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[size=5pt....]I admit I was a little tempted to troll the world by roleplaying CSW's allegations as totally true...[/size]

Yep, there can be human thoughts and temptations, yet likely many of us are glad that you did not act upon your temptation, however fleeting it may have been.

Ultimately, the costs of misinterpretation would be too great, even if it had been clearly a trolling effort and/or a joke that was later clarified.

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I haven't read the full transcripts and haven't been paying much attention but perjury for a start (assuming theymos isn't actually one of the many DPR's  Grin). I'm really hoping the court actually goes after him for these lies. Asking for any sort of proof of half of what he's saying would be enough. He basically just keeps lying to get himself out of another lie and he's going to slip up  under pressure and contradict himself if he hasn't already.

I was thinking more of what's the endgame here for him? A small fine? A huge fine? Prison? The latter two? He doesn't seem to be planning more than several weeks ahead...

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I was thinking more of what's the endgame here for him? A small fine? A huge fine? Prison? The latter two? He doesn't seem to be planning more than several weeks ahead...

It looks like he still doesn't realize that his credibility has been severely damaged.
I believe he still wants to convince us, because this is all he has left. If he stops, it means he failed.

He's trapped in this given the insane amount of stuff that was made up.
This is the perfect exemple of why someone should not lie : at the end it becomes such a mess, that you lose yourself in it and start contradicting yourself.

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I was thinking more of what's the endgame here for him? A small fine? A huge fine? Prison? The latter two? He doesn't seem to be planning more than several weeks ahead...


My guess is he has a well-funded staff of lawyers at his disposal who are coaching him on his every move. They're telling him exactly what he can and can't get away with in whatever legal system he's dealing with.

Eventually the house of cards will collapse, but when is anybody's guess. I'm kind of measuring the whole thing by the market cap of BSV.


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I was thinking more of what's the endgame here for him? A small fine? A huge fine? Prison? The latter two? He doesn't seem to be planning more than several weeks ahead...


My guess is he has a well-funded staff of lawyers at his disposal who are coaching him on his every move. They're telling him exactly what he can and can't get away with in whatever legal system he's dealing with.

Eventually the house of cards will collapse, but when is anybody's guess. I'm kind of measuring the whole thing by the market cap of BSV.



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My guess is he has a well-funded staff of lawyers at his disposal who are coaching him on his every move. They're telling him exactly what he can and can't get away with in whatever legal system he's dealing with.

I'd like their names so I never employ them myself. I don't see how anyone could conduct themselves in court the way he has if he's actually taking on board the advice given him.

I presume they're pocketing the money and keeping their own opinions to themselves. All he's produced so far is a string of lies and literally nothing else.

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