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September 02, 2019, 06:01:25 AM
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Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Carpe diem  -  understand the White Paper and mine honest.
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September 02, 2019, 07:25:50 AM
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Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.

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September 02, 2019, 07:54:46 AM
 #583

- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

I guess the people who are mining it who aren't Calvin, not that I believe such people actually exist, must be waiting with wet pussies for those Gigameg blocks to arrive.

When you see overt BSV supporters stating that they soon won't be able to afford to run a full node and miners would make more money clicking on faucets, I have no idea how or why this still lives.

If they were serious they would have an annual BSV No Calvin day to see what the network looks like without him.

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September 02, 2019, 08:03:18 AM
 #584

Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!

I love how BSV is now playing the legal card while it is ran by a Calvin (previously charged and found guilty of illegal gambling, money laundering and insider trading) and Craig (previously charged and found guilty of tax evasion and currently being called a fraud by the US Court). It's just a matter of time before they pull an exit scam and move on to their next fork.

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September 02, 2019, 08:33:44 AM
 #585

Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope

Carpe diem  -  understand the White Paper and mine honest.
Memo: 1AHUYNJKPfY7PjVK1hNQFo5LrdGixuiybw  -  https://metanet.icu/
The simple way is the genius way - in Moore's Law and Satoshi's WP we trust.
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September 02, 2019, 09:02:18 AM
 #586

- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

I guess the people who are mining it who aren't Calvin, not that I believe such people actually exist, must be waiting with wet pussies for those Gigameg blocks to arrive.

When you see overt BSV supporters stating that they soon won't be able to afford to run a full node and miners would make more money clicking on faucets, I have no idea how or why this still lives.

If they were serious they would have an annual BSV No Calvin day to see what the network looks like without him.

I mine BSV.

My negative trust comes from gmaxwell and Lauda, it was given to me for spreading the word about Bitcoin SV. Do your due diligence before making conclusions.
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September 02, 2019, 09:04:25 AM
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Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope

Dynamics: yes

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September 02, 2019, 10:26:25 AM
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Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope

Dynamics: yes



Nice - red Dragon is coming after the yellow winter

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Memo: 1AHUYNJKPfY7PjVK1hNQFo5LrdGixuiybw  -  https://metanet.icu/
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September 02, 2019, 11:25:33 AM
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Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope

Dynamics: yes



Nice - red Dragon is coming after the yellow winter

 Grin

WeatherSV is responsible for over 3,200,000 transactions in the past 30 days. BSV's growth is a complete joke.


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September 02, 2019, 11:36:57 AM
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Data centers in many different juristictions running a transparent stable legal protocol for the  MASSES cannot get
shut down, is max competitive and gives anybody ave Joe way enogh privacy by sheer numbers BUT not to big criminals and govs can be better controlled.  That s the Bitcoin I m happy to support!
If you are not paid to write stuff like this, then you are either highly uneducated, bamboozled or you are in imminent need of professional help. You can NOT be this disconnected from reality. Give me access to the exchange databases (which will be easily available to various agencies next year) and I can beat your "sheer numbers" alone within a couple days, let alone people whose government-paid job is to do this in big groups using specialized tools. Some Core-members were recently concerned about network-level hijacking attacks and are working on improving that layer, and here is the BSV (Bitcoin Scam) crowd praying that "sheer numbers" will save them. What a naive fool you are. Roll Eyes

Oh no - I like your style of 'arguments' (lol)  - just derailing and often ad hominem - as usual, and ?  Leading to nothing  - as expected...

BTW only sheer user numbers can keep BitCoin alive (not tulip speculation - we know how this ends) - and only true PoW is payed.

Let's look at some statistics to see how 'true PoW is paid'.

Bitcoin SV:

- 24h transactions: 133,521 (over 90% of these transactions are made by WeatherSV)
- 24h active addresses: 25,125
- Average transactions value: $285
- 24H miner block reward: $234,500.29
- 24H miner fee reward: $104,60

Bitcoin:

- 24h transactions: 299,060
- 24h active addresses: 502,938
- Average transactions value: $25,992
- 24H miner block reward: $17,445,887.24
- 24H miner fee reward: $200,400

BitcoinSV statistics are a huge joke.


Stats - yep

Dynamics - nope

Dynamics: yes



Nice - red Dragon is coming after the yellow winter

 Grin

WeatherSV is responsible for over 3,200,000 transactions in the past 30 days. BSV's growth is a complete joke.



Public scientific data storage / processing is a decent thing for a time stamping machine. More to come

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September 02, 2019, 11:41:42 AM
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"Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Timestamping Machine For Useless Data To Fake Network Activity System"

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September 02, 2019, 11:46:34 AM
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"Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Timestamping Machine For Useless Data To Fake Network Activity System"

Useless for you - accepted  Cheesy

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September 02, 2019, 11:53:34 AM
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I find the people mindlessly defending him no matter what is screaming in their face extremely strange.

You can easily believe in bigger blocks and at the same time believe Craigy is a lying asshole. Larger block fans are either silent on this or convinced he's The One.

Why is that?
This is something I don't understand, either. Whenever I had disputes with BSV folks, they put me off as someone who just hates their coin. I tried convincing them that this is not the case, because I didn't dive deep enough into the actual coin to form a solid opinion, and that my annoyance is solely directed at Craig Wright and how he's trying to fool the public (in a very amateurish way, to say the least). They were so stubborn that there was no way to convince them that BSV != Craig and vice versa.

Though he doesn't put BSV in a good light.

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September 02, 2019, 12:32:19 PM
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This is something I don't understand, either. Whenever I had disputes with BSV folks, they put me off as someone who just hates their coin. I tried convincing them that this is not the case, because I didn't dive deep enough into the actual coin to form a solid opinion, and that my annoyance is solely directed at Craig Wright and how he's trying to fool the public (in a very amateurish way, to say the least). They were so stubborn that there was no way to convince them that BSV != Craig and vice versa.

It would be very interesting to see what the reaction would be to a politically neutral fork that solely concentrated on delivering bigger blocks in a competent and quiet manner. Screeching from the creators and promoters would not happen. The message would be - 'here's some big blocks.'

Perhaps all this shouting and cratering will clear the way for something like that but then again tribalism is very hard to leave behind.

The BCH and BSV crews' relentless hysteria, refusal to face facts and underhanded moves are plain weird. None of that was necessary.

On a side note I noticed the BCH thread's final page is getting on for six weeks old now. Just goes to show what happens when the hostility moves elsewhere. There ain't much else.

 

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September 02, 2019, 02:09:44 PM
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For your information

THE HONORABLE BRUCE E. REINHART
UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE:
Quote
And, by the way, I find that no lesser sanction is
sufficient than what I'm about to announce.
One, Dr. Wright and David Kleiman entered into a
50 percent 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual
property and to mine Bitcoin.
Second, it is deemed proven that all Bitcoin mined
by Dr. Wright prior to December 31st, 2013, was joint property
of Dr. Wright and David Kleiman at the time it was mined.
Because Dr. Wright's 10th affirmative defense relating to the
statute of frauds challenges the existence of a partnership,
it is inconsistent with these findings and these facts, so it
is stricken.


Proof link https://wizsec.jp/20190826_kleiman_wright.pdf


For me, this is enough evidence, Judge Reinhart is authority.

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September 02, 2019, 02:41:45 PM
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For your information

THE HONORABLE BRUCE E. REINHART
UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE:
Quote
And, by the way, I find that no lesser sanction is
sufficient than what I'm about to announce.
One, Dr. Wright and David Kleiman entered into a
50 percent 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual
property and to mine Bitcoin.
Second, it is deemed proven that all Bitcoin mined
by Dr. Wright prior to December 31st, 2013, was joint property
of Dr. Wright and David Kleiman at the time it was mined.
Because Dr. Wright's 10th affirmative defense relating to the
statute of frauds challenges the existence of a partnership,
it is inconsistent with these findings and these facts, so it
is stricken.


Proof link https://wizsec.jp/20190826_kleiman_wright.pdf


For me, this is enough evidence, Judge Reinhart is authority.

Evidence of what exactly?

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September 02, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
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For your information

THE HONORABLE BRUCE E. REINHART
UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE:
Quote
And, by the way, I find that no lesser sanction is
sufficient than what I'm about to announce.
One, Dr. Wright and David Kleiman entered into a
50 percent 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual
property and to mine Bitcoin.
Second, it is deemed proven that all Bitcoin mined
by Dr. Wright prior to December 31st, 2013, was joint property
of Dr. Wright and David Kleiman at the time it was mined.
Because Dr. Wright's 10th affirmative defense relating to the
statute of frauds challenges the existence of a partnership,
it is inconsistent with these findings and these facts, so it
is stricken.



Proof link https://wizsec.jp/20190826_kleiman_wright.pdf


For me, this is enough evidence, Judge Reinhart is authority.

Evidence of what exactly?

"One, Dr. Wright and David Kleiman entered into a
50 percent 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual
property and to mine Bitcoin."


What you don't understand from the above phrase?

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September 02, 2019, 03:00:02 PM
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For me, this is enough evidence, Judge Reinhart is authority.

Psst, we got this ultimate authority thing called a blockchain. You can't fake it. You can't lie to it. You can't bend it to your will. It knows more than any judge ever will.

There's no need to pricktease for years on end. It will allow you to prove anything you want in minutes as long as what you're claiming is - and here's the important part - true.

Our special friend has found this out in relentless and excruciating detail in a stunningly elongated fashion. Some day he may even acknowledge it.

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September 02, 2019, 03:25:48 PM
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"One, Dr. Wright and David Kleiman entered into a
50 percent 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual
property and to mine Bitcoin."


What you don't understand from the above phrase?

Its evidence that at one point Craig entered a partnership to mine bitcoin with Dave. Judge didn't say they necessarily mined 1 bitcoin.

The judge basically nuked Craig's entire defense because he was found to be repeatedly full of shit, making it impossible to conduct an impartial hearing, ergo rendering a de facto judgment in favor of the plaintiff. He specifically stated he wasn't making a ruling about whether or not Craig was Satoshi because he didn't have to.

You're really performing some pretty embarrassing mental gymnastics if you are stretching the judge's words into meaning "Craig is Satoshi," even after all of the aforementioned.

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September 02, 2019, 03:25:59 PM
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For me, this is enough evidence, Judge Reinhart is authority.

Psst, we got this ultimate authority thing called a blockchain. You can't fake it. You can't lie to it. You can't bend it to your will. It knows more than any judge ever will.

There's no need to pricktease for years on end. It will allow you to prove anything you want in minutes as long as what you're claiming is - and here's the important part - true.

Our special friend has found this out in relentless and excruciating detail in a stunningly elongated fashion. Some day he may even acknowledge it.

I understand that my judgement is not relevant for the matter, however, you question the only US Federal Judge's findings on this matter - the creator of Bitcoin.

And you want to be taken seriously?

My negative trust comes from gmaxwell and Lauda, it was given to me for spreading the word about Bitcoin SV. Do your due diligence before making conclusions.
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