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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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September 29, 2021, 11:44:14 PM
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Kooman destoryed Barcelona in his time as a coach i think he will be sacked really soon.
I can agree with you this time. Looks like Koeman cannot manage Barcelona properly, another loss in UCL is a warning for Barcelona management to consider firing him. After losing some points in La Liga matches, Koeman shows us bad results in UCL as well. I think we all realize that Barcelona is possible to be eliminated in the group phase. It is very shameful for a big club like Barcelona.


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September 30, 2021, 12:02:00 AM
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Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...
Juventus has changed, they have risen since 3 last games. Chelsea didn't see that. Even though Paulo Dybala and Alvaro Morata got injured, another player has successfully replaced them, Chiesa is a hero. I think Chelsea should be watchful but in the fact they are careless, they did not consider if Juventus is a ”La Vecchia Signora”.

Ronaldo again, I don't know why they forget this person. he will create score a goal if given the ball (even Penalty, free kick, etc) he is an experienced player. if want to create many scores Mu players must give all balls to Ronaldo, not only stuck at the beginning and hoping to him on injury time.

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September 30, 2021, 12:08:44 AM
Last edit: September 30, 2021, 06:18:23 AM by Slow death
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losing to Benfica like a team in portuguese lower tier

Benfica is a strong team at the beginning of the Portuguese league season, so it's no surprise that they beat Barcelona, which is an extremely weak team, even La Liga, if we look at it very well, we realize that:

1 - Barcelona is weak

2 - real madrid is weak

3 - Atletico is weak

one cannot be surprised with bad results if the Spanish teams lose

makes Barcelona a potential prey to athletico Madrid this weekend

definitely not, Atletico is weak, Barcelona has a great chance of beating Atletico

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September 30, 2021, 12:31:42 AM
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Triple goals back to back for Barcelona to concede in Champions league competition that made them sit is bottom of a group in which Dynamo Kiev, Benfica and Bayern after two rounds without scoring no goal and in his net 6 goals.
Barcelona did not shoot once against Bayern and did not shoot once against Benfica.
Everything is negative in Barca and Koeman is still on the job. Most likely not for too long.
I had a good feeling that Benfica would win this game but didn't think that Barcelona will be at this bad and have nothing to show for.
4 games left for Barcelona and their chances to advance are getting very slim.

probably in group E Barcelona and Dynamo Kyiv will compete for the 3rd place which gives a possibility to play in Europa League. with current performance Barcelona don't deserve to qualify for the next stage of Champions League.

Barcelona have a chance to win in the last 3 matches and 2 matches will be played at Camp Nou if Barcelona are able to win these 3 matches then they still have a chance to qualify with 9 points, Barcelona must beat Benfica in 2nd leg next they also have to beat Dynamo kyiv, I don't think it's a difficult opponent. Munich can certainly help Barcelona if they win all the games in group E .

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September 30, 2021, 01:23:24 AM
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Is Barcelona's chance to advance to the next round still wide open? two bad results experienced in a row and they have conceded 6 goals in two games without scoring at all so far, Bayern have a place in the last 16 and Benfica have 4 points so far, the remaining 4 games must be taken advantage of Barcelona if they want to keep their chances of qualifying for the last 16, this is the worst start for Barcelona for several years, especially the impact after being left by Messi.

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September 30, 2021, 02:08:39 AM
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Is Barcelona's chance to advance to the next round still wide open? two bad results experienced in a row and they have conceded 6 goals in two games without scoring at all so far, Bayern have a place in the last 16 and Benfica have 4 points so far, the remaining 4 games must be taken advantage of Barcelona if they want to keep their chances of qualifying for the last 16, this is the worst start for Barcelona for several years, especially the impact after being left by Messi.

Same is applicable to Manchester United likewise, they need to win the games left for them, this is in order to boss the group also avoiding tough opponents further in the round of 16 sixteen.

IMO, I think Manchester United was pretty lucky last night, they have a good squad but ends up playing poorly in the pitch.
Ole Gunner Solskjaer ain't looking sharp for the job no more.

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September 30, 2021, 02:18:11 AM
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Can Benfica be the Sheriff of tonight?
The journey is deep into the 2nd half and Barcelona is still one goal down. When you look at the statistics, you will discover that Barcelona is better in all the statistics except on Shots on goal and Counter Attack. This is a clear indication that Benfica is more goal minded than Barcelona.

Gone are the days that Manchester United will be one goal down and remain confident of winning the match. Under the current form of Ole, Manchester United best result tonight is draw.

Big Ups to Cristiano Ronaldo, always there to make delivery for Manchester United.
Ole Gunner Solskjaer needs to get trained tactically.
Great come back, come back Kings.

Indeed,benfica show strength over Barcelona in this game, putting three past them, loading more pressure on the shoulders of koeman,all road leads to a tough time between one of their bitter rivals Athletico Madrid.

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September 30, 2021, 06:19:19 AM
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Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...

juventus leads group H. btw juventus is very lucky not to be humiliated by chelsea at home.

Luck is not the only aspect that make them win, but they also played well with strategy. All players played as what they should do, minimize mistakes and maximize counter attack. I have to say good job for Allegri with his strategy although he lost some important players (Dybala and Morata) but he could do his job well.
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September 30, 2021, 06:27:44 AM
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Chelsea tried everything they could but still there was no goal from them. Juventus managed to score with Chiesa and Bernardeschi made the assist. To be honest, I can't say that it was a really deserved win for Juventus. Chelsea could have scored even a few goals but they were very bad at scoring. One shot on target out of 13 shots is a very bad statistics.
It is a tight match and Juventus has players who decide the match. Chiesa gradually becomes one of most important players of Juventus. The last season is a preparation and this one will be the first season, Chiesa takes the official position in the squad. After Euro 2020 and his performance so far, I see he is very talented.

He missed one chance but also scored one important goal for Juventus.

Benfica won 3-0 against Barcelona, I wasn't expecting it. It was a great game for Benfica's team, which showed incredible quality in all sides of the game. The early goal in the game suffered by Barcelona, affected the team a lot. Benfica, on the other hand, had a lot of morale to continue to pressure and hold on to the Spanish team.
I don't think any of us expecting such shock result. Barcelona can lose but 0 - 3 is a shock result. I don't feel any strange or surprise if Barcelona lose matches with their squad. They are becoming another Arsenal and I think Messi can feel happy now in PSG. He would have not been able to do anything now, if he had stayed in Barcelona.

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September 30, 2021, 06:44:30 AM
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Federico Chiesa had an excellent match his goal is another confirmation overall the London team had a good match sorry we lost.
Very happy for Benfica however Barcelona's game was not hopeless and the teams certainly did not play enough for such an account.
Although how many goals can we expect from the team where Luuk de Jong plays?
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September 30, 2021, 06:44:58 AM
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Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...

juventus leads group H. btw juventus is very lucky not to be humiliated by chelsea at home.

Luck is not the only aspect that make them win, but they also played well with strategy. All players played as what they should do, minimize mistakes and maximize counter attack. I have to say good job for Allegri with his strategy although he lost some important players (Dybala and Morata) but he could do his job well.
Yes, after all, Juventus is also not a mediocre team so this victory is proof that Allegri is able to return the form of Juventus' game to the way it should be. Instead of being surprised by the Juventus result, I think the more surprising result came from Barcelona, maybe if only losing by one or two goals is still acceptable but Barcelona actually lost by the same score as against Bayern Munich in the first match.

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September 30, 2021, 06:45:45 AM
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Gone are the days that Manchester United will be one goal down and remain confident of winning the match. Under the current form of Ole, Manchester United best result tonight is draw.

Big Ups to Cristiano Ronaldo, always there to make delivery for Manchester United.
Ole Gunner Solskjaer needs to get trained tactically.
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@Ebede Ole himself admitted that this was a lucky win, and if he yet doesn’t improve his tactics then Manchester United is doomed for this season too. Also I don’t understand why doesn’t he unleash Van De Beek, because he could change this side and Van De Beek too wasn’t happy about being left on the bench.

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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/12421438/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-says-champions-league-nights-at-man-utd-are-magic-after-late-cristiano-ronaldo-winner

https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news-donny-van-de-beek-was-visibly-furious-being-left-on-the-bench-20210929
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September 30, 2021, 06:47:48 AM
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I don't think any of us expecting such shock result. Barcelona can lose but 0 - 3 is a shock result. I don't feel any strange or surprise if Barcelona lose matches with their squad. They are becoming another Arsenal and I think Messi can feel happy now in PSG. He would have not been able to do anything now, if he had stayed in Barcelona.

I think the problem is not just the lack of Messi. Barcelona, with time, started to settle for the victories and stopped evolving. Now it is in a new phase of restructuring, but it seems that things are still not going as expected.

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September 30, 2021, 06:56:19 AM
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What a great job Benfica did! In general, they are looking very good this season!A convincing win over Barca says a lot, although Barcelona are not having the best of times... I wish they could beat Bayern in their next league match... True, Bayern also showed great football yesterday!
I was also pleased with Manchester, it was an evenly matched game, but the star boy showed that he hasn't forgotten how to play football! Grin

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Well done to Benfica but Barcelona is in a total crisis now compared to what they used to be when they could afford to have Messi in their starting eleven.Now the attack power of Barcelona is not the same and this can be seen in their overall results,they are drawing a lot of games even in their national La Liga competition which is something new and was not like that when they had Messi.The more time passes the more it will be emphasized in Barcelona gameplay.

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September 30, 2021, 07:26:13 AM
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The Spanish teams are performing rather poorly. Perhaps over time they will get in shape and be able to show a decent game. After two rounds of the group stage, I still have one favorite - Bavaria. Besides her, I would mention Chelsea and Manchester City. Even despite the defeat in the last round, the strength of the teams is great.
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Well done to Benfica but Barcelona is in a total crisis now compared to what they used to be when they could afford to have Messi in their starting eleven.Now the attack power of Barcelona is not the same and this can be seen in their overall results,they are drawing a lot of games even in their national La Liga competition which is something new and was not like that when they had Messi.The more time passes the more it will be emphasized in Barcelona gameplay.
Maybe this will be their worst season in UCL, strangely their striker was not able to score even a single goal in 2 matches in this group stage. More pressure on Koeman right now.
Could they quickly recover from this defeat? because in league they will also have an important game against Atletico.

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September 30, 2021, 08:03:37 AM
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Well done to Benfica but Barcelona is in a total crisis now compared to what they used to be when they could afford to have Messi in their starting eleven.Now the attack power of Barcelona is not the same and this can be seen in their overall results,they are drawing a lot of games even in their national La Liga competition which is something new and was not like that when they had Messi.The more time passes the more it will be emphasized in Barcelona gameplay.

barcelona's problem is only in the coach, if they had a good coach who had barcelona's style of play, things would be different, let's look at the benfica coach pep guardiola has a style of play very similar to barcelona with, but the current coach of barcelona cannot recreate barcelona old style of play, barcelona management failed to choose a coach. I think that the Barcelona administration needs to hire a coach who has good results and that the style of the game is the same as the Spanish style of play, for that they have to hire a Spanish coach who has been with a team in the la liga for years and with a soccer style of barcelona and then they need to hire players with a Spanish style of play, the mistake made by barcelona was that after that time in Carles Puyol out there started to hire players in all positions who had a different style of play and this ended up creating a lack of identity of the The way they play I think Messi must have realized this and decided to leave because the club direction doesn't seem to understand the seriousness of it.

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September 30, 2021, 08:10:29 AM
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Well done to Benfica but Barcelona is in a total crisis now compared to what they used to be when they could afford to have Messi in their starting eleven.Now the attack power of Barcelona is not the same and this can be seen in their overall results,they are drawing a lot of games even in their national La Liga competition which is something new and was not like that when they had Messi.The more time passes the more it will be emphasized in Barcelona gameplay.
Maybe this will be their worst season in UCL, strangely their striker was not able to score even a single goal in 2 matches in this group stage. More pressure on Koeman right now.
Could they quickly recover from this defeat? because in league they will also have an important game against Atletico.

a quite painful defeat for barcelona this season in the champions league, with this defeat, barcelona automatically makes barcelona not have any points at all in the Champions League this season, after previously they also had to lose against Bayern Munich in the opening match, in my opinion, the barcelona game During the coaching Koeman really experienced a slump and it looks like a change of coach will be the solution to improve Barcelona's current situation.

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September 30, 2021, 08:22:19 AM
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Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...

juventus leads group H. btw juventus is very lucky not to be humiliated by chelsea at home.

Luck is not the only aspect that make them win, but they also played well with strategy. All players played as what they should do, minimize mistakes and maximize counter attack. I have to say good job for Allegri with his strategy although he lost some important players (Dybala and Morata) but he could do his job well.
Yes, after all, Juventus is also not a mediocre team so this victory is proof that Allegri is able to return the form of Juventus' game to the way it should be. Instead of being surprised by the Juventus result, I think the more surprising result came from Barcelona, maybe if only losing by one or two goals is still acceptable but Barcelona actually lost by the same score as against Bayern Munich in the first match.

Juve won because first of all they played perfectly in defense, I think they made only 1 mistake in the whole game, when Lukaku almost scored a goal near the end of the game.
They were also good in attack, and they should have scored a goal in the first half of the game.
As for Barcelona, it is obvious that they are in a big crisis and it is easily possible that they will drop out of the Champions League competition already in the group stage.

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