⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Raflesia]

Disaster however for Barca, their manager will probably be sacked before this evening the rumors are for Pirlo as the new coach.

I only saw from local CNN news and Pilro's name could not be listed as a candidate for Barcelona coach and the ones on the list were Xavi, Conte, Joachim Low and Roberto Martinez so until now it is still unclear who will replace Ronald Koeman.

Barcelona is under the leadership of the current coach and there is no improvement at all, so he deserves to be sacked today because it does not have a good effect on his team, even if left alone, Barcelona will be worse off with even lower opponents.

[DU18]

Wow, this is really bad buddy, you really have to rest before betting again. For the prediction of MU winning, it's no longer surprising, I see a little chance of a draw based on statistics, haha. But, for Chelsea, I don't believe they can lose to Juventus who in their domestic league are in bad form, even though Chelsea are doing quite well in possession, they failed to make an effective attack even though they also have a lot of shot on goal.

This journey of the Champions League had several suppressions in terms of results.
I believe that many have lost several bets, and some have won a lot on the riskier bets they made.

many superior teams lost in the second match of the champions league group phase, and of course this also had an effect on those who bet for the victory of the big team in that match, I myself in that match lost some money and I did not expect a team as big as barcelona and Madrid can be defeated by a team that is actually below their level, but that's football, sometimes a big team will be easily defeated by a team that is not superior at all .

[coinlocket$]

i did the same for chelsea because i thought for sure chelsea would win the match easily because considering chelsea's performance was very good.
and i bet everything on chelsea and what happened i lost all
but it is very likely to happen considering football can all happen in 90 minutes of a game.
and in this match I realized one thing, apart from the factor of calm and concentration, the luck factor also plays a role. a team that attacks all out and controls the ball as much as anything like chelsea which last night controlled the ball up to 70% more does not mean that the team can win the game easily.

Luck?

Chelsea did nothing for the whole game, 1 shot in the end.
Juventus however scored 1 goal and missed 2 easy more goals.

I don't know. This is not luck is a good defense.

[jakdanyel]

Barcelona got a huge defeat against Benfica like 3-0 yesterday. Their performance was really poor and they must be better than this to achieve something in this year or even get close to doing it. And I have heard that they are in search of a new manager. Barcelona board must be unsatisfied with Koeman's management. Koeman was still claiming that Barcelona are better with him. But it doesn't seem so now.

[BITCOIN4X]

many superior teams lost in the second match of the champions league group phase, and of course this also had an effect on those who bet for the victory of the big team in that match, I myself in that match lost some money and I did not expect a team as big as barcelona and Madrid can be defeated by a team that is actually below their level, but that's football, sometimes a big team will be easily defeated by a team that is not superior at all .

That's football, yes it makes sense when we want to stay away from the bullies of the other team's fans when our favorite team doesn't win. LOL
Understandably, Barcelona must get used to playing not beautiful anymore since Koeman led the team. There are a lot of things I really don't like about him and that has taken Barcelona further and further away from the title at the end of the season. One of them when relying on two Dutch players Depay and L.D. Jong was up front as a striker while we saw them ineffective in delivering positive results for Barcelona in a few match. So defeat is a risk that Koeman has to accept at the moment although he is starting to feel that so far there hasn't been much support from management for him.

[Altryist]

Without Paolo Dybala and Alvaro Morata Juventus make new tandem between Federico Bernardeschi and Federico Chiesa as forward position, I think for Federico Chiesa is not usually play as forward position because he always playing on left or right winger position, but very disappointed Juventus loss both player Dybala and Morata, how ever Juventus have Moise Kean as target men but Allegri not give his chance play at the early or starting eleven, on other position keep the same player as defender keep Bonucci and De Light play together.

Juventus played this game perfectly, as if something had changed in the team, the players were charged for the fight and reacted very positively to each taken ball from an opponent. I wrote that the hope for defense and they did not disappoint today, however, and the goalkeeper played at the proper level. I am very glad that Juventus won at Chelsea, this is very important for the confidence of the players, and I am also very glad that the Juventus defense finally did not concede a single goal in the match!

[Coyster]

Koeman said Barcelona's future is good. But under his leadership, Barcelona is deteriorating further. They have lost against Bayern Munich, as expected. With such an inexperienced team, it is not possible to win against a strong and experienced team. But yesterday they lost 3-0 to Benfica, proving how weak they are this season. Now their only future is the Europa League.

It's actually going to be a disaster if Barcelona fail to qualify for the knock-out stage and drop to the Europa league, It's going to be a sight we actually haven't seen before, but to be honest, there is actually a possibility that Barcelona would drop out to the Champions league, they are out of sorts and are anything but impressive, there is a clear lack of quality in their side and if they do not do anything in the next transfer window, then they'll be down for a very long time.

Koeman isn't even the problem for me, I think any manager in charge of Barcelona at the moment wouldn't do very well, the person will definitely struggle, the problem stems from the board, the hierarchy at the club looks to be in all sorts of problems that needs solution.

[Spack17]

We saw again that how much Manchester United are struggling when they are putting an effort to win a match. They hardly managed to defeat Villarreal in a very competitive match. Villarreal's scoring first made things even more difficult for Manchester United. Telles' goal was just fabulous. While I was thinking like that was it and it would end by 1-1, Ronaldo saved the team by a very critical goal in literally the last minute.

[cryptofrka]

Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

[abhiseshakana]

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches
Personally, I see that Villareal will make it difficult for United during the game, so I believe that the match will end in a draw. What I expect is proven, Villareal put up a fight against Manchester United. Unfortunately, Ronaldo made a surprise in the last minutes with 1 goal which he created.

A Dramatic Match Indeed. When the game only had 1 minute left, Ronaldo made a surprise, so that all the Red Devils supporters can smile with joy  . Actually, Villareal played very well, it's just that they lacked the finishing touch. When Man United played a fast game early in the second half, Villarreal looked overwhelmed but Villareal managed to slow down the tempo of the game by playing possession of the ball and made the Man United players chase the ball in the Villareal defense area.

[Furious 7]

Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

Indeed, it is still too early to say bad things about these two clubs, but what I saw during their domestic and UCL league matches, there was no sense of being a big team, even we now consider the club to be weak and helpless, especially in the UCL, especially with Barcelona in eventual scoring. a lot by Bayern Munich what about the other teams?
One solution to improve the barcelona game is to change the coach for now.

And for Juventus in the domestic league there is still a bit of recovery I think in the middle he can control again like the year before and become the defending champion.

And Barcelona - Juventus I'm not sure they can win the UCL title this season.

[alpamar99]

i did the same for chelsea because i thought for sure chelsea would win the match easily because considering chelsea's performance was very good.
and i bet everything on chelsea and what happened i lost all
but it is very likely to happen considering football can all happen in 90 minutes of a game.
and in this match I realized one thing, apart from the factor of calm and concentration, the luck factor also plays a role. a team that attacks all out and controls the ball as much as anything like chelsea which last night controlled the ball up to 70% more does not mean that the team can win the game easily.

Luck?

Chelsea did nothing for the whole game, 1 shot in the end.
Juventus however scored 1 goal and missed 2 easy more goals.

I don't know. This is not luck is a good defense.

you forgot the two factors I said earlier. apart from luck I also pinned the factors of concentration and calm.
It's true that in the second half there were no dangerous attacks for Juventus and indeed after Juventus scored one goal they continued to concentrate on defense.
and here indeed their calm and concentration are very good in defense, on the other hand chelsea are lacking in finishing so they seem to play the ball in the middle of the field. and the luck factor is just an addition that I say because if you look at the goals that were created at the beginning of the second half because they took advantage of the negligence of the chelsea players.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

Juventus fans shouldn't panic indeed. Because they are getting better day by day and having a consistent performance these days also. They won their last two games in the Serie A and they managed to beat even Chelsea in the Champions League also.

But I can't say the same thing for Barcelona fans unfortunately. Because the team are playing very inconsistently recently and it seems really hard to predict the results of their games. They show a great performance once but later everything changes about them. They weren't able to do anything against Benfica for example. They are not in a trustworthy condition and the fans shouldn't have big expectations from them at least for now.

[coinlocket$]

Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

You guys keep forgetting one thing.

THE SUPERLEAGUE.

We will have soon a sentence from the European Court,

if it will say UEFA is right REAL JUVE BARCA and maybe more will be banned from the next champions.
if it will say ESL is right REAL JUVE BARCA will leave Champions soon.

So in the end this can even be the last edition with these 3 teams.

[cryptofrka]

That is too much politics, I don't really want to speculate until something becomes official. Last I heard was that tensions have dropped a bit, I believe everything will be back to normal soon.

UEFA does not want to lose top clubs and top clubs do not want to lose CL revenue. Superleague was rejected by both fans and players so I assume it won't be attempted in the next few years at least.

[Congyang]

Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

Juventus fans shouldn't panic indeed. Because they are getting better day by day and having a consistent performance these days also. They won their last two games in the Serie A and they managed to beat even Chelsea in the Champions League also.

But I can't say the same thing for Barcelona fans unfortunately. Because the team are playing very inconsistently recently and it seems really hard to predict the results of their games. They show a great performance once but later everything changes about them. They weren't able to do anything against Benfica for example. They are not in a trustworthy condition and the fans shouldn't have big expectations from them at least for now.

barcelona are in a transition period and it will definitely be difficult for them to deal with this especially this is exacerbated by some of their players currently still unable to play due to injuries they have suffered.
I think for this season Barcelona have to be prepared without a trophy being brought to Campnou and the fans have to be prepared for that.
not without reason, when playing in UCL in these two matches they couldn't get a single point and even had to concede 6 goals without entering a single goal, and even in the league they were thrown up to 6th position in the standings and this will be difficult for them

[BITCOIN4X]

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And Barcelona - Juventus I'm not sure they can win the UCL title this season.

0 points 0 goals scored, and 6 conceded in 2 group stage match is a result I really regret from Barcelona. Defender and striker are the two weakest positions for Barcelona so far so they conceded goals quite often and also can't score many goals. Benfica were much better at home yesterday and I applaud what they are doing with their team. I saw Koeman very angry with a pretty grim expression on his face LOL because it was a Benfica party. There are 4 more games in the group stages, so we will see how Barcelona react after this in the Champions League.

[Maestro75]

Oh! Finally,  Lionel Messi scores his first goal for PSG and not just ahaunst any team but the Champions of England and a much needed goal at that from the way City is playing. This is going to be a very painful lose for the citizens. To have lost 2 goals to nothing against PSG even though, they were the dominant team in this game. Its a lot of hard luck for Manchester City though, especially with the double chance they had to an equaliser in the first half. Where Raheem Stirling and B. Silva had there shot at the goal but was off target and landed on the bar. The final whistle is yet to be blown but, rhe game seems over already.  All they could hope for now is the returning leg and hope they win though.

I knew Lionel Messi's time will come and he will start scoring for his new club. That time came against Manchester City. The most painful part for me is that his first goal came against his former and coach, Pep Guardiola. But that is football for you and Messi played like a professional not minding he was playing against his former boss.

[Zilon]

We saw again that how much Manchester United are struggling when they are putting an effort to win a match. They hardly managed to defeat Villarreal in a very competitive match. Villarreal's scoring first made things even more difficult for Manchester United. Telles' goal was just fabulous. While I was thinking like that was it and it would end by 1-1, Ronaldo saved the team by a very critical goal in literally the last minute.

Villarreal had more chances and the had high possession of the ball compared to Manchester united. Alex telles' goal was just the energetic goal that saved the face of united after losing to young boys in the first leg . Bruno Fernandes made a wise decision while he took the free kick  that opened room for winning goal which came in the 90+4 minutes by C. Ronaldo. Manchester just have to work on their team management and well as making sure.

[KTChampions]

You guys keep forgetting one thing.

THE SUPERLEAGUE.

We will have soon a sentence from the European Court,

if it will say UEFA is right REAL JUVE BARCA and maybe more will be banned from the next champions.
if it will say ESL is right REAL JUVE BARCA will leave Champions soon.

So in the end this can even be the last edition with these 3 teams.

Maybe you should create a separate topic about this? All information will be lost here for sure. If I remember correctly, such a topic was already created but was either deleted or closed after the temporary victory of UEFA. But now the courts are on the side of the clubs and the topic of the Super League is more relevant than ever.