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November 11, 2019, 01:13:42 PM


Anyways.. We have good amount of Test Cricket in next couple of weeks.
Ind vs Ban
Aus vs Pak
Nz vs Eng

India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there痴 not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it値l an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I値l yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.


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November 11, 2019, 01:19:10 PM

~snip~
New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I値l yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.


Well don't forget that New Zealand is playing this series in their own grounds so for England it might not be that easy. Besides, as a test team New Zealand is always a good one. I am expecting an exciting series like the last Ashes.

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India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there痴 not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it値l an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I値l yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.
India does have world class fast bowlers in Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Shami and there are other fast bowlers and Bangladesh will not stand a chance and they have world class spinners too and they do not necessarily make spin friendly wicket to win Test matches. Australia winning the series and expecting a white wash but the interesting match is between New Zealand and England, England won the T20 series but in Test match they do not have a great team.

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November 11, 2019, 01:45:05 PM

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India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there痴 not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it値l an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I値l yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.

Agree with you on "one sided contest" but not because of spin friendly pitches. Bangladesh is no match when comparing to India in the Red ball cricket. i would be very surprise if they fight. Although i am expecting good contest in the Eden garden's (2nd match) because its D/N game and both team are new in this.

I was watching Warm up game of Pak vs Aus A and Pakistan batsmen are killing it there. its Pink ball Match (D/N) and sample size is very small on this format for every bowler/batsmen and i don't know how Pink ball works in general so not sure about anything. otherwise Australia can beat Pakistan any day in the Test Match.

NZ vs ENG should be a good contest, no doubt.

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November 11, 2019, 02:11:38 PM

India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there痴 not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it値l an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I値l yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.

Agree with you on "one sided contest" but not because of spin friendly pitches. Bangladesh is no match when comparing to India in the Red ball cricket. i would be very surprise if they fight. Although i am expecting good contest in the Eden garden's (2nd match) because its D/N game and both team are new in this.

I was watching Warm up game of Pak vs Aus A and Pakistan batsmen are killing it there. its Pink ball Match (D/N) and sample size is very small on this format for every bowler/batsmen and i don't know how Pink ball works in general so not sure about anything. otherwise Australia can beat Pakistan any day in the Test Match.

NZ vs ENG should be a good contest, no doubt.

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Talking about this - I am thinking to do something here so that we feel the excitements. In the bookies they do not allow multibet in a match, I mean you can not select more than one market from a match in a multi bet slip.

How about in Pak vs Aus and Ind vs Ban match I come up with some selective markets and allow you lot to place your bets and if you win then you will get Nx times?

Like say for example in the Ind vs Bang match only in the first Test:

Kohli to score over under x runs in the first innings
Agarwal to score over under x runs in the first innings
How many innings we will have in the 1st test: over under 3.5
Imrul Kayes to score over under x runs in the first innings
Mustafizur Rahman to take over under x wickets in the first innings
Ishant to take over under x wickets in the 2nd innings

Pick 5 from the list and place a small amount of bet in that. If you get all correct of your selection then you get Nx of the return.

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.

Give me your feedback.

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What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.
Give me your feedback.
If you can come up with those option then it will be interesting and i will be joining the pool as well, i have seen your pool earlier but i did not understand the idea of betting pool, what will be the odds we will be getting and so on, sorry if it is a novice question but in the last India Bangladesh match the odds were really low for India and hence i did not participate in the betting pool.
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If you can come up with those option then it will be interesting and i will be joining the pool as well, i have seen your pool earlier but i did not understand the idea of betting pool, what will be the odds we will be getting and so on, sorry if it is a novice question but in the last India Bangladesh match the odds were really low for India and hence i did not participate in the betting pool.

Here is a short explanation for you :
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Pool betting, or more commonly known as pari-mutuel betting, refers to a popular and unique betting form that can be used on a variety of sporting events.

Instead of placing a bet against a sportsbook, you will place a bet against other people who have placed a bet on the same sporting event.

All bets that have been made will go into a pool, and the amount will be shared equally between everyone that placed bets on the winning selection.

As you might have guessed, a small portion of the total bets will be subtracted by the house.

With pari-mutuel betting, the house will refer to a private company or a state run organization which offers pari-mutuel betting as a service.
https://www.onlinegamblingsites.com/betting/pari-mutuel/

This image explained a bit better too.



And the one I am talking about here will have a fixed odd or course. It will be a simple multibet of x number of selection but the options will have from the same match which the bookies do not offer by the way.

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Pick 5 from the list and place a small amount of bet in that. If you get all correct of your selection then you get Nx of the return.

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.

Give me your feedback.

Who is going to give the Nx return? I am really confused. I have seen your attached image but didn't get much. Can you elaborate a little more? Would appreciate much.
Anyway, I can smell something interesting. Could enjoy it.

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November 11, 2019, 06:38:25 PM

Pick 5 from the list and place a small amount of bet in that. If you get all correct of your selection then you get Nx of the return.

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.

Give me your feedback.

Who is going to give the Nx return? I am really confused.
It will be me. Imagine me as the bookies.
So I will have some selective markets from the same match and others will pick there selections from the given market. If all their selection wins then they will win the bet just like a multiBet slip.


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I have seen your attached image but didn't get much. Can you elaborate a little more? Would appreciate much.
The image on my last post was explaining the mutual betting pools that we are doing right now it's not fixed odd like in the multiBet we will have.

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Anyway, I can smell something interesting. Could enjoy it.
It will be interesting. Image in India - Bangladesh match there are 5 selections from the same match to pick and if you get all correct then say the odd offered is 7.00 which means you will get 7x of your stake. It's just like regular mutibet but the difference is that you are getting selections from the same match which none of the bookies offers of course.

Read the example giving in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168384.msg53048654#msg53048654

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It will be me. Imagine me as the bookies.
It's much understandable now. Thanks

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 sorry if it is a novice question but in the last India Bangladesh match the odds were really low for India and hence i did not participate in the betting pool.

Actually, the odds for India in the mutual betting for the 3rd T20 is the best, ~1.9 (mainly because of Royse's 1.5 mbtc bet on Bangladesh)  compared to other sportbooks which offered ~1.1 to 1.3. For Bangladesh, its was ~2 here, while sportbooks offered around 5 - 6. So, if you had made a bet on India here and made a bet on Bangladesh on other sportbooks, you would have had profit irrespective of who ever wins  Smiley

And the image posted by Royse, is how the current betting pools work and ofcourse without the commission, which Royse didn't take, didn't check though  Tongue

Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.


@Royse, your current idea, seems interesting let's see how many are interested and how it unravels. I'm interested for sure.
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Agree with you on "one sided contest" but not because of spin friendly pitches. Bangladesh is no match when comparing to India in the Red ball cricket. i would be very surprise if they fight. Although i am expecting good contest in the Eden garden's (2nd match) because its D/N game and both team are new in this.

I was watching Warm up game of Pak vs Aus A and Pakistan batsmen are killing it there. its Pink ball Match (D/N) and sample size is very small on this format for every bowler/batsmen and i don't know how Pink ball works in general so not sure about anything. otherwise Australia can beat Pakistan any day in the Test Match.

NZ vs ENG should be a good contest, no doubt.

Everyone expected Bangladesh to get whitewashed during the T20 series, but they fought really well and won the first game. Only the second match could be said as one-sided and the other two matches were evenly contested. Test match is a different format altogether and  the lengthier the game, the more difficult it gets for the underdogs. But the T20 series proved that Bangladesh can fight.

I wanted to watch the Australia A vs Pakistan match, but it looks like the match is not available on TV. It was the partnership between Babar Azam and Asad Shafiq which rescued Pakistan. Before that they were struggling at 60/3 against the second-string Australian pace attack. I would not read too much in to the scorecard. Let's see the outcome of the match.

 
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November 12, 2019, 07:32:53 AM

~snip~
And the image posted by Royse, is how the current betting pools work and ofcourse without the commission, which Royse didn't take, didn't check though  Tongue

Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.

No, there were no commission as the host and I really do not plan for it as well. It's just something that excites me and I enjoy it a lot.

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@Royse, your current idea, seems interesting let's see how many are interested and how it unravels. I'm interested for sure.
I will come up with something experimental in the upcoming Test matches. Need to see if there is a good market in it. I personally would like to make multibet in a same match which I never could with any bookies.


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Everyone expected Bangladesh to get whitewashed during the T20 series, but they fought really well and won the first game. Only the second match could be said as one-sided and the other two matches were evenly contested. Test match is a different format altogether and  the lengthier the game, the more difficult it gets for the underdogs. But the T20 series proved that Bangladesh can fight.
India was lucky in the last match because of the 6/7 bowling figure from that that bowler (can not remember his name right now) or we would see a different result.



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I wanted to watch the Australia A vs Pakistan match, but it looks like the match is not available on TV. It was the partnership between Babar Azam and Asad Shafiq which rescued Pakistan. Before that they were struggling at 60/3 against the second-string Australian pace attack. I would not read too much in to the scorecard. Let's see the outcome of the match.
I am quite surprised to see some good betting performance by Pakistan in the warm-up match.

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November 12, 2019, 07:55:50 AM

And the one I am talking about here will have a fixed odd or course. It will be a simple multibet of x number of selection but the options will have from the same match which the bookies do not offer by the way.
So, you are the bookie here. Interesting though. I am not much interested, provably will participate on very few events only. But I think you must consider couple of time before being a bookie, it's subjective to huge loss in a single match. It's not commission based unlike the other one you referred. Anyway, it's up to you. If you continue, I guess you will get some 2/3 regular participants.

India was lucky in the last match because of the 6/7 bowling figure from that that bowler (can not remember his name right now) or we would see a different result.
It's Deepak Chahar. He had a great knock, otherwise, India would lose the match. He took all the crucial wickets India needed badly. It was a great bowling figure, indeed.

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Pick 5 from the list and place a small amount of bet in that. If you get all correct of your selection then you get Nx of the return.

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.

Give me your feedback.
This seems great in my opinion. Sounds like an accumulator, but the problem is that you would suffer big losses if someone hits it. I don't think this would be fair for you Royse since we could basically risk small amounts to win big amounts while your situation will be reversed.

India was lucky in the last match because of the 6/7 bowling figure from that that bowler (can not remember his name right now) or we would see a different result.
You guys are under-estimating India a bit too much here. The score that India posted was above par for that pitch and every BAN batsman except for Naim played poorly. Chahar bowled brilliantly, but he was not the only one. Dube supported him nicely too.

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November 12, 2019, 08:47:44 AM

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So, you are the bookie here. Interesting though. I am not much interested, provably will participate on very few events only.
Yes exactly, as a bookies I will offer the markets and odds. Those who will beat the bookies will win big of course.


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ut I think you must consider couple of time before being a bookie, it's subjective to huge loss in a single match. It's not commission based unlike the other one you referred. Anyway, it's up to you. If you continue, I guess you will get some 2/3 regular participants.
I know the risk associated which is of course paying the big wins. This is an experimental project to see how it goes. I will have max payout limit and minimum bet amount too.

This seems great in my opinion. Sounds like an accumulator, but the problem is that you would suffer big losses if someone hits it. I don't think this would be fair for you Royse since we could basically risk small amounts to win big amounts while your situation will be reversed.
Yes it is an accumulator like we see in the other sites but here the difference is that you are picking the selections from the same match which other bookies do not allow.
Talking about the big hits, anything under the max payout will not be a problem for me.


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You guys are under-estimating India a bit too much here. The score that India posted was above par for that pitch and every BAN batsman except for Naim played poorly. Chahar bowled brilliantly, but he was not the only one. Dube supported him nicely too.
It was based on the current team they had. If India would have their regular team then there would have been no question at all.

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November 12, 2019, 10:24:34 AM

Interesting Royce..

Not sure bro where are you going with this. having said that If you are starting out then i can support you with first bet participation just for fun or call it experiment so that you can attract gamblers.

Congrates Little Mouse
Akhjob is moving up as well. just hang on bro

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November 12, 2019, 11:48:16 AM

You guys are under-estimating India a bit too much here. The score that India posted was above par for that pitch and every BAN batsman except for Naim played poorly. Chahar bowled brilliantly, but he was not the only one. Dube supported him nicely too.

Hmm.... Dube's performance got overshadowed by the record spell from Deepak Chahar. Bangladesh played well.. and we need to give them credit for that. But the real test would be the test series. T20 outcome depends a lot on the luck as well. One single good over can change the course of the match. But test format is different. It is 99% skill and 1% luck.

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November 12, 2019, 12:35:05 PM

Dube's performance got overshadowed by the record spell from Deepak Chahar. Bangladesh played well.. and we need to give them credit for that. But the real test would be the test series. T20 outcome depends a lot on the luck as well. One single good over can change the course of the match. But test format is different. It is 99% skill and 1% luck.
There were some outstanding performance from KL Rahul and Shreyas Iyer batted well and that helped India get a good total and Shivam Dube and Khaleel Ahmed bowled really well but Deepak Chahar was bowling exceptionally well and overshadowed everyone and when in test series there is no way Bangladesh will win or draw any of the match because i hope the famed pace attack will return to the team.
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November 12, 2019, 05:27:59 PM

Interesting Royce..
have you forgotten the early days? It's Royse  Cheesy

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Congrates Little Mouse
Thank you bro, special thanks to Royse, who recommend to boost my merit, the rest was done by Jet Cash. Of course, it was a long process where all of you were.

But the real test would be the test series.
bangladesh had the chance to win the t20 series, I doubt they will be able to do some good in test series against India. By the way, will it be the first match with PINK color ball?


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