Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[Haunebu]

Cricket South Africa (CSA) is solely responsible for the death of cricket in that country. Their stupid quota system has destroyed the quality of their national team, as well as the domestic cricket in that country. I can understand quota system in education and employment, as I come from India where up to 70% of the seats are reserved based on the caste. But implementing quota system in sports is just ridiculous.

What the heck? Did not know that CSA followed a quota system. Absolutely messed up. Corruption along with this stupid system are probably the primary reasons why many quality South African players are not being given any chances.

Bumrah and Shami along with Ashwin and Jadeja are probably the reasons behind such amazing statistics. I can confidently say that these guys form the best bowling lineup in the Indian team at present(Bonus is the fact that Jadeja and Ashwin can bat too).

[JSRAW]

Cricket South Africa (CSA) is solely responsible for the death of cricket in that country. Their stupid quota system has destroyed the quality of their national team, as well as the domestic cricket in that country. I can understand quota system in education and employment, as I come from India where up to 70% of the seats are reserved based on the caste. But implementing quota system in sports is just ridiculous.

What the heck? Did not know that CSA followed a quota system. Absolutely messed up. Corruption along with this stupid system are probably the primary reasons why many quality South African players are not being given any chances.

Why do you think their Domestic players runs towards other cricketing nations. I am just glad that BCCI doesn't follow this pattern, otherwise Indian cricket is doomed as well. as a matter of fact every citizen of India and every institution (political +social) doesn't want to implement Quota reservation in only 2 Areas. One is Army and Second is Indian Cricket Team.

Bumrah and Shami along with Ashwin and Jadeja are probably the reasons behind such amazing statistics. I can confidently say that these guys form the best bowling lineup in the Indian team at present(Bonus is the fact that Jadeja and Ashwin can bat too).

May be add Ishant and especially Umesh Yadav. he performs good in Indian conditions.

[Haunebu]

I am just glad that BCCI doesn't follow this pattern, otherwise Indian cricket is doomed as well. as a matter of fact every citizen of India and every institution (political +social) doesn't want to implement Quota reservation in only 2 Areas. One is Army and Second is Indian Cricket Team.

True. India already faces an insane reservation problem in areas like education etc which is why this is a big relief although corruption is still a big problem in terms of selections and I don't see this problem getting minimized anytime soon.

May be add Ishant and especially Umesh Yadav. he performs good in Indian conditions.

Ishant and Umesh never really impressed me to be honest, but they are great bowlers although I would choose Bhuvi over them since I like his variations. Chahal and Kuldeep are also rising up the ranks these days.

[teosanru]

Cricket South Africa (CSA) is solely responsible for the death of cricket in that country. Their stupid quota system has destroyed the quality of their national team, as well as the domestic cricket in that country. I can understand quota system in education and employment, as I come from India where up to 70% of the seats are reserved based on the caste. But implementing quota system in sports is just ridiculous.

What the heck? Did not know that CSA followed a quota system. Absolutely messed up. Corruption along with this stupid system are probably the primary reasons why many quality South African players are not being given any chances.

Why do you think their Domestic players runs towards other cricketing nations. I am just glad that BCCI doesn't follow this pattern, otherwise Indian cricket is doomed as well. as a matter of fact every citizen of India and every institution (political +social) doesn't want to implement Quota reservation in only 2 Areas. One is Army and Second is Indian Cricket Team.

Bumrah and Shami along with Ashwin and Jadeja are probably the reasons behind such amazing statistics. I can confidently say that these guys form the best bowling lineup in the Indian team at present(Bonus is the fact that Jadeja and Ashwin can bat too).

May be add Ishant and especially Umesh Yadav. he performs good in Indian conditions.

There might not be any stupid Quota System in India but there definitely is a lot of political intervention in here. Currently I understand that there are almost zero slots in the whole cricket team of India which needs a replacement that is why some cricketers have never gotten enough chances but despite of that some astonishing cricketers like Ambati Raydu and others were never selected in team due to certain political intervention. Moreover may be in cricket you are right, it's a bit less because it can uncover pretty easily with all eyes of media on it but in other sports it's still too much and many sportsman never budded due to this. I know a few sportsman friends they all have suffered from such things.

[JSRAW]

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True. India already faces an insane reservation problem in areas like education etc which is why this is a big relief although corruption is still a big problem in terms of selections and I don't see this problem getting minimized anytime soon.

Yeah we can't deny corruption factor on selection criteria. its more of a power balance; to be more precisely, when selectors become or act like an fanboy for any captain. then situations gets worse, it happened in recent time as @teosanru pointed out in his post and i quote "like Ambati Raydu and others were never selected in team due to certain political intervention"

Sourav Ganguly is now BCCI's president so there are good chance, where he can keep a tab on Indian Captain and coach. 

May be add Ishant and especially Umesh Yadav. he performs good in Indian conditions.

Ishant and Umesh never really impressed me to be honest, but they are great bowlers although I would choose Bhuvi over them since I like his variations. Chahal and Kuldeep are also rising up the ranks these days.

In shorter format i think the same but in Test Format they both did okay and on some occasion gave excellent performance. Bhuvi is one of my fav bowler but in Red ball cricket competition is tough in between Indian seamers. its good as far as Indian cricket is concern.

Wrist bowlers are always handy and I would like to see Chahal in Test Cricket as well, may be in next 3-4 years or when situation demands. Tough time for Kuldeep, lets see if he can get in the Test Squad first, its cutthroat competition and everything depends on combination but he has a bright future that's for sure.

[Indymoney]

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True. India already faces an insane reservation problem in areas like education etc which is why this is a big relief although corruption is still a big problem in terms of selections and I don't see this problem getting minimized anytime soon.

Yeah we can't deny corruption factor on selection criteria. its more of a power balance; to be more precisely, when selectors become or act like an fanboy for any captain. then situations gets worse, it happened in recent time as @teosanru pointed out in his post and i quote "like Ambati Raydu and others were never selected in team due to certain political intervention"

Sourav Ganguly is now BCCI's president so there are good chance, where he can keep a tab on Indian Captain and coach. 

May be add Ishant and especially Umesh Yadav. he performs good in Indian conditions.

Ishant and Umesh never really impressed me to be honest, but they are great bowlers although I would choose Bhuvi over them since I like his variations. Chahal and Kuldeep are also rising up the ranks these days.

In shorter format i think the same but in Test Format they both did okay and on some occasion gave excellent performance. Bhuvi is one of my fav bowler but in Red ball cricket competition is tough in between Indian seamers. its good as far as Indian cricket is concern.

Wrist bowlers are always handy and I would like to see Chahal in Test Cricket as well, may be in next 3-4 years or when situation demands. Tough time for Kuldeep, lets see if he can get in the Test Squad first, its cutthroat competition and everything depends on combination but he has a bright future that's for sure.

Saurav Ganguly was one of best Indian Captain and he bring too many good and positive things in Indian cricket now as he is going to be BCCI president we can expect some good and professional changes from him even system is very powerful and one man cannot do many changes but still this could be very good and Gold time for Indian cricket.

[AjithBtc]

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True. India already faces an insane reservation problem in areas like education etc which is why this is a big relief although corruption is still a big problem in terms of selections and I don't see this problem getting minimized anytime soon.

Yeah we can't deny corruption factor on selection criteria. its more of a power balance; to be more precisely, when selectors become or act like an fanboy for any captain. then situations gets worse, it happened in recent time as @teosanru pointed out in his post and i quote "like Ambati Raydu and others were never selected in team due to certain political intervention"

Sourav Ganguly is now BCCI's president so there are good chance, where he can keep a tab on Indian Captain and coach. 

May be add Ishant and especially Umesh Yadav. he performs good in Indian conditions.

Ishant and Umesh never really impressed me to be honest, but they are great bowlers although I would choose Bhuvi over them since I like his variations. Chahal and Kuldeep are also rising up the ranks these days.

In shorter format i think the same but in Test Format they both did okay and on some occasion gave excellent performance. Bhuvi is one of my fav bowler but in Red ball cricket competition is tough in between Indian seamers. its good as far as Indian cricket is concern.

Wrist bowlers are always handy and I would like to see Chahal in Test Cricket as well, may be in next 3-4 years or when situation demands. Tough time for Kuldeep, lets see if he can get in the Test Squad first, its cutthroat competition and everything depends on combination but he has a bright future that's for sure.

Saurav Ganguly was one of best Indian Captain and he bring too many good and positive things in Indian cricket now as he is going to be BCCI president we can expect some good and professional changes from him even system is very powerful and one man cannot do many changes but still this could be very good and Gold time for Indian cricket.

I don't think this to be a golden time for Indian cricket. He as a cricketer knows the needs of the players, understanding that he might do the necessary changes. When it comes to team selection and all other things there will be pressure for him to choose players and he can't do things independently. Also, even he has did more such things when he was the captain to the Indian Cricket team.

[Indymoney]

Saurav is very strong person and he can take some bold decsions for Indian cricket which could be good for Saurav and BCCI I beleive he is really suitable person sor this job right now as Indian Board need person like this may be he feel some pressure but some time these type persons can do too much on these posts.

[7788bitcoin]

Saurav Ganguly was one of best Indian Captain and he bring too many good and positive things in Indian cricket now as he is going to be BCCI president we can expect some good and professional changes from him even system is very powerful and one man cannot do many changes but still this could be very good and Gold time for Indian cricket.

India was known to play well in the subcontinent wicket in ODI and Test but they were a complete failure outside that and in fast pitches they would fall cheaply and when Ganguly became the captain i remember some upsets in green wickets and India was not known to chase huge scores and with him as a captain he changed the mentality of the players and started attacking cricket.

[bryant.coleman]

Saurav is very strong person and he can take some bold decsions for Indian cricket which could be good for Saurav and BCCI I beleive he is really suitable person sor this job right now as Indian Board need person like this may be he feel some pressure but some time these type persons can do too much on these posts.

Ganguly is a hundred times better than Sharad Pawar or N Srinivasan. When we thought that Sharad Pawar was the worst president that BCCI could get (he is rumored to have links with Dawood Ibrahim), Srinivasan became the president a few years back. BCCI was always dominated by these criminals. They destroyed the first class structure in India.

However, things improved ever since Srinivasan was ousted in 2014 (by the supreme court of India). The salaries for first class players increased by almost 5 times and the playing conditions improved. Now under Saurav, we can expect the BCCI to be a corruption-free organization which will work towards the betterment of cricket players in India.

[eaLiTy]

However, things improved ever since Srinivasan was ousted in 2014 (by the supreme court of India). The salaries for first class players increased by almost 5 times and the playing conditions improved. Now under Saurav, we can expect the BCCI to be a corruption-free organization which will work towards the betterment of cricket players in India.

BCCI is a powerhouse and it was controlled by people with political influence and power and hence the court had to intervene to remove the corrupt and have a fair selection. I am glad to see that Sourav Ganguly being appointed as the BCCI president and i am sure he will do his best to develop good infrastructure to find new talents and to develop them into international players and to make the sports better.

[onrise]

However, things improved ever since Srinivasan was ousted in 2014 (by the supreme court of India). The salaries for first class players increased by almost 5 times and the playing conditions improved. Now under Saurav, we can expect the BCCI to be a corruption-free organization which will work towards the betterment of cricket players in India.

BCCI is a powerhouse and it was controlled by people with political influence and power and hence the court had to intervene to remove the corrupt and have a fair selection. I am glad to see that Sourav Ganguly being appointed as the BCCI president and i am sure he will do his best to develop good infrastructure to find new talents and to develop them into international players and to make the sports better.

The main advantage would be that he has played and retired like couple of years back only which will help him to know exactly the status of the team and what all difficulties the team could or might have being facing or faced in domestic or international grounds and across formats as well .

[Vishnu.Reang]

Sourav Ganguly was known as one of the most aggressive captains India ever had. Under his leadership, India reached new heights. I hope he'll be able to do the same with BCCI as well. There are still a lot of corrupt people within the state associations. Srinivasan's daughter has been elected to the Tamil Nadu state association. Hopefully Sourav can kick them out.

[ene1980]

The main advantage would be that he has played and retired like couple of years back only which will help him to know exactly the status of the team and what all difficulties the team could or might have being facing or faced in domestic or international grounds and across formats as well .

Is this true that Ganguly only retired a couple of years back, i have not seen him for a very long time and Sachin even retired more than 5 years back if i am not wrong and i remember this because he was one of the greatest players and i respect him and Ganguly retired well before him. If you are talking about Ganguly playing domestic tournaments i am not following the Indian domestic games.

[JSRAW]

Sourav Ganguly was known as one of the most aggressive captains India ever had. Under his leadership, India reached new heights. I hope he'll be able to do the same with BCCI as well. There are still a lot of corrupt people within the state associations. Srinivasan's daughter has been elected to the Tamil Nadu state association. Hopefully Sourav can kick them out.

We should not be so naive about his role. I have no doubt on his intention or capability but the best Ganguly can do is check on corrupted individuals but thinking that he can alone kick Srinivasan's daughter or eradicate all corruption from the BCCI is clearly not possible.

Rupa Gurunath (SN's daughter) is just one name if you look closely at New BCCI team then you might notice excellent example of nepotism (few are genuinely worthy).

[Sithara007]

Two more days to go for the third and the last test match between India and South Africa. Interest in the series has waned ever since South Africa put up a pathetic performance in the second test. People are not interested in one sided matches anymore. A lot of people have been saying that India won the toss and they got the home advantage. But they are ignoring the basic issue here - a decline in the quality of the South African cricket.

To make matters worse for South Africa, Keshav Maharaj will be missing the third match. He was very expensive with his left arm spin, but he performed with the bat better than many of their top order batsmen. So Senuran Muthusamy will lead the spin attack, supported by either Dane Piedt (who is not in good form right now) or the new player George Linde. 

[JSRAW]

Virat Kohli's India 'need to win big tournaments' - Sourav Ganguly

At home, Virat Kohli's India have established a dominance that has drawn comparisons with the Australian teams led by Mark Taylor, Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting, who were almost invincible at home. They have also become one of the best travelling units, especially with their well-rounded bowling attack finding unprecedented success on the road.

And yet, this India side is yet to win a global title. And that "big tournament" is what former India captain Sourav Ganguly, who will take charge soon as BCCI president, reckons India need to win.

"It [India] is a very good side," Ganguly said at a media briefing on Tuesday at the Cricket Association of Bengal (CAB) headquarters, housed at Eden Gardens in Kolkata. "My only thing is that they need to win big tournaments. I'm not saying they need to win every time. It's not possible. But we have gone through seven big tournaments without winning one.

Agreed with Ganguly, its been a long time when India won any ICC tournament (Almost 6 years) if it doesn't change then Semi final chokers tag is good to go for Indian team. having said that in this article one more thing caught my eyes and its pretty hilarious as well. i will leave it for you guys if you can notice  

[SaShiRaJaVu]

A lot of people have been saying that India won the toss and they got the home advantage. But they are ignoring the basic issue here - a decline in the quality of the South African cricket.

Even if South Africa bat first i do not see any difference in the result as they are struggling to bat for a long period of time and the quality of batsman they had in the past were world class players like Kallis who values their wicket so much that he rarely plays a loose shot and any bowler consider his wicket to be a prize possession and there are no players of that caliber in this team, i wish South Africa to win the toss and bat first to silence the doubters and the odds to bet is also not that great.

[ene1980]

Agreed with Ganguly, its been a long time when India won any ICC tournament (Almost 6 years) if it doesn't change then Semi final chokers tag is good to go for Indian team. having said that in this article one more thing caught my eyes and its pretty hilarious as well. i will leave it for you guys if you can notice  

I never had an idea that India never won a major ICC tournament for a long time, looking at the team they could challenge any team and are favorites in every tournament but they are winning majority of the bilateral tournaments and hence i did not notice these things, the chokers title in ICC tournament always belong to South Africa and until and unless they win any major tournament and India does not have the chance to sneak that tag away from South Africa  .

[onrise]

Agreed with Ganguly, its been a long time when India won any ICC tournament (Almost 6 years) if it doesn't change then Semi final chokers tag is good to go for Indian team. having said that in this article one more thing caught my eyes and its pretty hilarious as well. i will leave it for you guys if you can notice  

I never had an idea that India never won a major ICC tournament for a long time, looking at the team they could challenge any team and are favorites in every tournament but they are winning majority of the bilateral tournaments and hence i did not notice these things, the chokers title in ICC tournament always belong to South Africa and until and unless they win any major tournament and India does not have the chance to sneak that tag away from South Africa  .

This is true and not sure if the Kohli luck as a captain winning the major tournament is bad or so . Beacuse many series India have won under him like test match or ODI but nothing champions trophy or so . Also last couple of years IPL team of Kohli who leads Bengaluru has failed miserably to even reach top 4 .