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November 21, 2019, 04:36:35 PM
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Bangladesh PM Sheikh Hasina and West Bengal CM Mamata Banerjee will ring the bell before the start of play, while paratroopers - yes, you read that right - will fly in to deliver the pink balls to the two captains at the start.
https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/110912/pink-preoccupies-eden-as-day-night-tests-arrive-in-the-realm

This is big and it seems really good for cricket. But in the ground if there are no competition then everything will fade away. I hope Bangladesh will give a good fight.
Imagine if this was in between Australia and India :-D

For sure, we needed this test match to between the two big teams and not like a one sided dull match. There are very few day and night test matches and we want them to be trilling. As I remember the last day&night test match happened from 24 to 28 January 2019 in Brisbane. This match was also one sided and Australia won by an innings and some 40 odd runs.

Don't worry about the lack of DN test matches because Pakistan will be playing with Australia in the next test match at Adelaide Oval, and this match will be  a Day Night.  In future, we may expect the whole test series to be day night one. This will also increase the crowds in the stadium, as people are free from jobs / business to come in the ground to support their teams.

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November 21, 2019, 04:44:23 PM
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Don't worry about the lack of DN test matches because Pakistan will be playing with Australia in the next test match at Adelaide Oval, and this match will be  a Day Night.  In future, we may expect the whole test series to be day night one. This will also increase the crowds in the stadium, as people are free from jobs / business to come in the ground to support their teams.
The main reason ICC is implementing day night Test match is because they think they can attract the crowd and whether these experiments will succeed can be seen in the future, when ODI started day night matches they were able to attract more crowds to the ground and even in this longer format i think they are trying to replicate that success.
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November 21, 2019, 05:04:00 PM
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The main reason ICC is implementing day night Test match is because they think they can attract the crowd and whether these experiments will succeed can be seen in the future, when ODI started day night matches they were able to attract more crowds to the ground and even in this longer format i think they are trying to replicate that success.

The only reliable method to attract the crowd is to make sure that the matches are not one-sided. People may be attracted by the concept of Day/Night test matches, but the curiosity will not remain forever. Here are some of my suggestions:

1. Remove the concept of toss. The visiting team will decide which side will bat first.
2. The big-3 (India, Australia and England) will play more often, and each series between these three sides will consist of 5 test matches each.
3. Series between the big 3 and the other teams will consist of single test matches.
4. The ICC will make sure that players from West Indies, Pakistan.etc play for their national sides whenever there is a test match going on.
5. If a team performs poorly on a consistent basis (such as Zimbabwe), then the test status should be permanently cancelled.
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November 21, 2019, 06:46:42 PM
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The only reliable method to attract the crowd is to make sure that the matches are not one-sided. People may be attracted by the concept of Day/Night test matches, but the curiosity will not remain forever. Here are some of my suggestions:

1. Remove the concept of toss. The visiting team will decide which side will bat first.
2. The big-3 (India, Australia and England) will play more often, and each series between these three sides will consist of 5 test matches each.
3. Series between the big 3 and the other teams will consist of single test matches.
4. The ICC will make sure that players from West Indies, Pakistan.etc play for their national sides whenever there is a test match going on.
5. If a team performs poorly on a consistent basis (such as Zimbabwe), then the test status should be permanently cancelled.
Some of your suggestions make a lot of sense and I partially agree with you though I doubt ICC will implement any of these steps since they already would have if they wanted to and some of your suggestions are way too complicated.

Example : Points 2 and 4 are not practical since players should decide when and where they wish to play(Complete freedom) and team schedules are planned several years in advance which is why they cannot simply change them for certain teams.

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November 21, 2019, 09:30:02 PM
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6th wicket down now, have to say very bad decision from ground and third umpire. it was clearly no ball from pat Cummins but umpire gave Mohammad Rizwan out anyway. what's the use of technology if you still not going to use it correctly,
This has been a problem for sometime now. The frequency of bad decisions keeps increasing with time and I blame ICC for this. Majority of the decisions given by the umpires these days are so messed up that I feel like the viewers can do a better job in comparison.

Seriously, I'm starting to lose interest in cricket due to such decisions. It's time ICC get the umpires replaced by the robots.
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November 21, 2019, 09:36:36 PM
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6th wicket down now, have to say very bad decision from ground and third umpire. it was clearly no ball from pat Cummins but umpire gave Mohammad Rizwan out anyway. what's the use of technology if you still not going to use it correctly,
This has been a problem for sometime now. The frequency of bad decisions keeps increasing with time and I blame ICC for this. Majority of the decisions given by the umpires these days are so messed up that I feel like the viewers can do a better job in comparison.

Seriously, I'm starting to lose interest in cricket due to such decisions. It's time ICC get the umpires replaced by the robots.
Decsions like these against Pakistan are not new in Australia as we lost too many matches just because of decsions like this one I never forget this match https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/15759/scorecard/63855/australia-vs-pakistan-2nd-test-pakistan-tour-of-australia-1999-00 Pakistan was clearly going to win but one bad decsion change all and after end of match empire appologises they need to face truth and check before mistake even now we have technology.
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November 21, 2019, 10:39:38 PM
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Seriously, I'm starting to lose interest in cricket due to such decisions. It's time ICC get the umpires replaced by the robots.
I am not expecting that the umpires will be replaced by robots anytime soon, for every dismissals the on field umpire takes the third umpire can verify in a few seconds and report it to the on field umpire whether it is a no ball or not or a catch being completed as the third umpire have the help of the technology and that is the logical solution that having the umpires replaced by robots Wink.
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November 21, 2019, 10:43:12 PM
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Today we'll see how well the young Pakistan bowlers will go against a top Australian batting side. Its now up to the Pakistan bowlers to keep them in the game as a total of 240 runs isn't a good total batting first on this pitch every though it did seem to favour the bowlers. I'm expecting Australia to score at least 400+ runs on this pitch and if they do then they might only need to bat once in this match but time will tell on how well Pakistan bowl.

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November 21, 2019, 11:17:39 PM
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Today we'll see how well the young Pakistan bowlers will go against a top Australian batting side. Its now up to the Pakistan bowlers to keep them in the game as a total of 240 runs isn't a good total batting first on this pitch every though it did seem to favour the bowlers. I'm expecting Australia to score at least 400+ runs on this pitch and if they do then they might only need to bat once in this match but time will tell on how well Pakistan bowl.
It is going to be a huge challenge for the young Pakistan team to be even competitive against Australia and i am looking forward to see how Smith is going to play in this series and i want to see him make some huge scores on the board and take the best player of the year award as he is a special player and his top form and he is scoring runs flawlessly and he is the main player in the team and the rest of the players bat around him.
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November 21, 2019, 11:59:14 PM
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New Zealand is back in the match and it is great to see the comeback as New Zealand dropped a couple of chances yesterday which were costly and now England lost some quick wickets and now they scored 328 loosing 8 wickets, Jos Buttler is still in the crease and if he can score some quick runs then they can post a total above 350 runs which is pretty decent consider the quick loss of wickets and the match depends on the New Zealand batsman now, if they can score some big runs then they can put England under pressure in their second innings.
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November 22, 2019, 01:51:04 AM
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New Zealand is back in the match and it is great to see the comeback as New Zealand dropped a couple of chances yesterday which were costly and now England lost some quick wickets and now they scored 328 loosing 8 wickets, Jos Buttler is still in the crease and if he can score some quick runs then they can post a total above 350 runs which is pretty decent consider the quick loss of wickets and the match depends on the New Zealand batsman now, if they can score some big runs then they can put England under pressure in their second innings.

Still the chances are that England will be able to win this match, as they have good bowlers such as Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad and Sam Curran. The pitch at Mount Maunganui looks very supportive towards fast bowlers and especially Archer is going to be happy. It won't be easy for New Zealand to score in excess of 353 against such a strong bowling attack.

BTW, Australia is off to a very strong start against Pakistan. They are 78/0 after 17 overs, and the Pakistani bowlers (including the debutante Naseem Shah) looked unimpressive so far. Warner is batting on 43, and he seems to be back on form (at least in the test format). To put it frankly, quite a bit disappointed with the Pak bowling attack. They performed really well during the warm-up match, but don't know what happened to these same bowlers now.

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November 22, 2019, 03:18:35 AM
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Still the chances are that England will be able to win this match, as they have good bowlers such as Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad and Sam Curran. The pitch at Mount Maunganui looks very supportive towards fast bowlers and especially Archer is going to be happy. It won't be easy for New Zealand to score in excess of 353 against such a strong bowling attack.
It all depends upon how the New Zealand batsman could build partnership and i think they will take a lead in the first innings and it looks like Williamson is in top form as he comfortable playing the ball and unless he plays some reckless shot and gets out i am expecting a century from him.

BTW, Australia is off to a very strong start against Pakistan. They are 78/0 after 17 overs, and the Pakistani bowlers (including the debutante Naseem Shah) looked unimpressive so far. Warner is batting on 43, and he seems to be back on form (at least in the test format). To put it frankly, quite a bit disappointed with the Pak bowling attack. They performed really well during the warm-up match, but don't know what happened to these same bowlers now.
David Warner wants to shake off his struggling days in the Ashes and he is back in prime form and he is targeting a huge score, a smooth century partnership in the opening wicket and still carrying on, bad luck for the Pakistani bowlers as they will be bowling for 6 sessions until the Australians decide to declare the innings Wink.
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November 22, 2019, 03:47:53 AM
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New Zealand lost their second wicket as Leach threw his wicket away by going for a shot in the air which was unwarranted as England planned as they packed the leg side field and Pope took a good catch and now two of their most experienced batsman are at the crease and Kane Williamson and Ross Taylor are their main stay and if the England pacer bowlers could create problems often and have the patience they can put pressure on the batsman.

Australia is batting really well and they might score over 240 runs even without loosing a wicket, hard time to be a Pakistani bowler with the way in which both the Australian openers are batting  Cheesy.
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Sourav Ganguly first gig turning out to be good for Test cricket so far, he left no stone unturned for this. Inviting Bangladesh's Hon. PM Sheikh Hasina along with first test team of Bangladesh. i really hope after this he will take care of spectators concerns regarding stadium facilities etc.
So BCCI is inaugurating the day night Test match with a bang and there is a reason for that, if the match could attract the audience interest which they are looking for and it will become a grand success in the grant scheme of things then we might see day night matches quite often and their main focal point will be TRP rating and stadium audience.

All tickets are sold already for first 4 days.

Imagine if this was in between Australia and India :-D

Too bad it isnt. anyway i am expecting both teams to play a D/N test against each others soon.

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It's Eden Garden; oldest stadium in India. Let me bring some test history for team India on the board.

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These are some good stats for the upcoming match. Moreover, it's the broken Bangladesh.
Kolkatta has a 100 year old history in sports after all, be it cricket or football. Bangladesh is broken team atm but i am not sure if we are heading towards another one sided game or not.

Australia is batting really well and they might score over 240 runs even without loosing a wicket, hard time to be a Pakistani bowler with the way in which both the Australian openers are batting  Cheesy.

Pitch looking dead to me, no sign of reverse swing et all so far. all pakistani seamers struggling atm, their best bet is Oz batsmen make some mistakes othewise they are on mercy of batsmen.

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November 22, 2019, 07:27:18 AM
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Australia is batting really well and they might score over 240 runs even without loosing a wicket, hard time to be a Pakistani bowler with the way in which both the Australian openers are batting  Cheesy.
They lead by 65 runs right now. Pakistan are having serious problems right now since all the Australian batsmen are playing fabulously so far. At the rate at which this is going, I think Australia will win this one by an innings.

Pitch looking dead to me, no sign of reverse swing et all so far. all pakistani seamers struggling atm, their best bet is Oz batsmen make some mistakes othewise they are on mercy of batsmen.

Aus 150/0
Australia is on a roll here. Warner just scored his 150 and is playing smartly dealing in boundaries only. This is why Pointing decided to stick with him people and this is why he is still a critical part of the test squad at present.

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November 22, 2019, 07:39:46 AM
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Australia is on a roll here. Warner just scored his 150 and is playing smartly dealing in boundaries only. This is why Pointing decided to stick with him people and this is why he is still a critical part of the test squad at present.
Warner is all set to score a double century here and sadly Joe Burns missed his century by just 3 runs and it is a matter of how long they will be batting and by the way they are playing Smith does not get a chance to bat as Pakistan is struggling to pick wickets no able to put any pressure on the Aussie players, Smith will be praying for a chance to bat in this series by the way things are going  Cheesy.
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Australia is on a roll here. Warner just scored his 150 and is playing smartly dealing in boundaries only. This is why Pointing decided to stick with him people and this is why he is still a critical part of the test squad at present.

Warner was lucky today. he was around at 50ish when he got caught behind the wicket but ball was no ball, hard luck for debutant Nassem shah. Then at the end of the day ball kissed the wicket but bailed didn't got off from stumps.



Meanwhile Bangladesh is in mess again. 25/3

After 2 mins score is 26/4




Another example of shitty umpiring in Aus vs Pak, have a look.

Naseem Shah bowls 20 Noballs in two sessions not given by Umpires | Australia vs Pak 1st test day 2

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November 22, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
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Naseem Shah bowls 20 Noballs in two sessions not given by Umpires | Australia vs Pak 1st test day 2
May be the umpire felt like he wont be getting time to take a good look at the appeals if he takes a look at the no ball line because Naseem shah was bowling at good pace  Cheesy, twenty no balls and getting away with it is a record as i have not seen anything like this earlier and with all the technologies available for the umpires and still they miss these is ridiculous.

All tickets are sold already for first 4 days.
Bangladesh is trying their best to put some runs on the board so that the people who took tickets for the first 4 days will get the opportunity to come to the stadium Cheesy.
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May be the umpire felt like he wont be getting time to take a good look at the appeals if he takes a look at the no ball line because Naseem shah was bowling at good pace  Cheesy, twenty no balls and getting away with it is a record as i have not seen anything like this earlier and with all the technologies available for the umpires and still they miss these is ridiculous.

All tickets are sold already for first 4 days.
Bangladesh is trying their best to put some runs on the board so that the people who took tickets for the first 4 days will get the opportunity to come to the stadium Cheesy.

It’s hard to believe that Naseem got away with bowling 20 no balls, hopefully ICC will consider appointing better umpires for International Cricket matches. I’m not sure if the match will last for four days as Bangladesh are now struggling at 73 for 6, and it’s only a matter of time before team India bowls them all out. Once that happens then team India will bat for a day, and then on the third day they’ll pick all Bangladesh players wickets and win the match.
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Bangladesh is trying their best to put some runs on the board so that the people who took tickets for the first 4 days will get the opportunity to come to the stadium Cheesy.
The Indian pacers are too much for the Bangladeshi batsman and the way in which the bowlers are delivering i would like to see them bowl in green wickets and they can pose a challenge to any team in the world, if this bowling unit along with Bumrah travel to New Zealand in their next tour then they can make history by winning the series as i am pretty sure they never won that in New Zealand.
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