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June 01, 2023, 05:24:40 PM
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ACC has rejected the hybrid model. Asia cup will happen in Srilanka. If Pakistan pulls out of the tournament (which I feel it will) then India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan will be the four teams to play in the Asia cup. ICC has already taken assurance from PCB a few days back that they will participate in the world cup. The government of Pakistan has now said they are reluctant to send thier team to India. I feel a neutral destination might be selected for all matches of Pakistan by the ICC in this situation.

There are few options left for the PCB. It is now almost certain that the tournament will be moved to Sri Lanka. There is a risk of rain interruption though, as the Monsoon season has started. In case Pakistan pulls out of the tournament, then United Arab Emirates will qualify as the 6th team. Anyway, I don't think that they will pull out. A better option for them is to agree to Sri Lanka as the hosts and then demand a hefty compensation from the ACC. Boycotting the ODI World Cup will be a stupid decision as well, as PCB's annual share was recently increased from $16 million per year to $34.51 million per year.
Is that news final or just another random drama article regarding Asia Cup?

Maybe broadcasters should sue the ACC but i guess broadcasters are Indian based so it could be a tricky situation. In recent times PCB made many bold comments about boycotting this and that, now time will tell if they keep their promise or not.

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June 01, 2023, 06:17:07 PM
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ACC has rejected the hybrid model. Asia cup will happen in Srilanka. If Pakistan pulls out of the tournament (which I feel it will) then India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan will be the four teams to play in the Asia cup. ICC has already taken assurance from PCB a few days back that they will participate in the world cup. The government of Pakistan has now said they are reluctant to send thier team to India. I feel a neutral destination might be selected for all matches of Pakistan by the ICC in this situation.
There are few options left for the PCB. It is now almost certain that the tournament will be moved to Sri Lanka. There is a risk of rain interruption though, as the Monsoon season has started. In case Pakistan pulls out of the tournament, then United Arab Emirates will qualify as the 6th team. Anyway, I don't think that they will pull out. A better option for them is to agree to Sri Lanka as the hosts and then demand a hefty compensation from the ACC. Boycotting the ODI World Cup will be a stupid decision as well, as PCB's annual share was recently increased from $16 million per year to $34.51 million per year.

I absolutely agree. PCB will have to think about the best move on the chessboard right now. This is a losing battle for them. The best outcome is going to be them getting a good amount of money from the ICC. Any other decision of not playing the Asia Cup for the world cup is going to be absolutely stupid for Pakistan cricket board.

Is that news final or just another random drama article regarding Asia Cup?

Maybe broadcasters should sue the ACC but i guess broadcasters are Indian based so it could be a tricky situation. In recent times PCB made many bold comments about boycotting this and that, now time will tell if they keep their promise or not.

I think at this point we know that the Asia Cup is not being hosted in Pakistan. There are going to be a lot of rumors about that. I believe nothing is actually official yet. But the way things are going on right now, everything does indicate only one outcome which is the Asia Cup not being played in Pakistan.



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June 01, 2023, 06:54:15 PM
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ACC has rejected the hybrid model. Asia cup will happen in Srilanka. If Pakistan pulls out of the tournament (which I feel it will) then India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan will be the four teams to play in the Asia cup. ICC has already taken assurance from PCB a few days back that they will participate in the world cup. The government of Pakistan has now said they are reluctant to send thier team to India. I feel a neutral destination might be selected for all matches of Pakistan by the ICC in this situation.
The politics are destroying the fun of cricket. I'm wondering why ACC decided to arrange the Asia cup in Pakistan while it is known to everyone that Indian team won't visit Pakistan! There wouldn't be so much drama like that if the upcoming world cup venue isn't India. I'm expecting more drama in the upcoming days if the hybrid model really gets rejected.

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June 02, 2023, 03:03:28 AM
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Indian domestic team Karnataka is visiting Namibia for a series of 5 ODI matches. Both the teams are not in full strength, as Namibia is missing two of their star players - David Wiese and Ruben Trumpelmann. Karnataka is missing almost all of their senior players including KL Rahul, Manish Pandey, Mayank Agarwal and Devdutt Padikkal. The matches will be streamed live on Fancode. This is an encouraging sign. I want more Indian domestic sides to tour Associate nations such as Namibia, Nepal and Scotland. It will be mutually beneficial.

BTW, the ODI series between Sri Lanka and Afghanistan also starts today (also covered live on Fancode).

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June 02, 2023, 03:33:08 AM
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Is that news final or just another random drama article regarding Asia Cup?

Maybe broadcasters should sue the ACC but i guess broadcasters are Indian based so it could be a tricky situation. In recent times PCB made many bold comments about boycotting this and that, now time will tell if they keep their promise or not.

It seems it is final now! Unless another issue pops up from Pakistan Grin. Star Sports can sue ACC, eventually after that they will lose a lot of cricket broadcasting rights. That is why they won't do anything to make Chota Bhai angry.

PCB made a mess of it, they should have accepted BCCI request on the first day. All BCCI asked was for a neutral venue for Indian team. If they had agreed I guess Asia cup wouldn't have shifted to another country.

This is why you shouldn't come onto the media before negotiating t&c. Ramiz Raza made a mockery of this issue and then Sethi. Did we hear anyone from BCCI or ACC giving public statement in front of the media?

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June 02, 2023, 03:34:37 AM
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ACC has rejected the hybrid model. Asia cup will happen in Srilanka. If Pakistan pulls out of the tournament (which I feel it will) then India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan will be the four teams to play in the Asia cup. ICC has already taken assurance from PCB a few days back that they will participate in the world cup. The government of Pakistan has now said they are reluctant to send thier team to India. I feel a neutral destination might be selected for all matches of Pakistan by the ICC in this situation.
The politics are destroying the fun of cricket. I'm wondering why ACC decided to arrange the Asia cup in Pakistan while it is known to everyone that Indian team won't visit Pakistan! There wouldn't be so much drama like that if the upcoming world cup venue isn't India. I'm expecting more drama in the upcoming days if the hybrid model really gets rejected.

I agree with this point. Politics is ruining the beauty of cricket. But at the same time, I would say that India should go to Pakistan for the Asia Cup. Other parties have no problem in Pakistan. The Pakistan Cricket Board will ensure maximum security of the players. Since Pakistan will play in India in the World Cup, BCCI should keep politics aside and decide to perform in the Asia Cup in Pakistan. But BCCI will not do that.
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It seems it is final now! Unless another issue pops up from Pakistan Grin. Star Sports can sue ACC, eventually after that they will lose a lot of cricket broadcasting rights. That is why they won't do anything to make Chota Bhai angry.

PCB made a mess of it, they should have accepted BCCI request on the first day. All BCCI asked was for a neutral venue for Indian team. If they had agreed I guess Asia cup wouldn't have shifted to another country.

This is why you shouldn't come onto the media before negotiating t&c. Ramiz Raza made a mockery of this issue and then Sethi. Did we hear anyone from BCCI or ACC giving public statement in front of the media?

The media rights holder (Star Sports) paid an additional premium because there are matches between India and Pakistan (1 match in group phase, and at least one more in the playoffs). In case Pakistan pulls out, and get replaced with United Arab Emirates (since they finished as the runners up for the ACC Premier Cup), then the India vs Pakistan match is not going to happen and Star has every right to ask for a refund. If India pulls out of the tournament, then it is going to be even worse. In that case Star will ask for a 100% refund.

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June 02, 2023, 04:31:24 AM
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It seems it is final now! Unless another issue pops up from Pakistan Grin. Star Sports can sue ACC, eventually after that they will lose a lot of cricket broadcasting rights. That is why they won't do anything to make Chota Bhai angry.

PCB made a mess of it, they should have accepted BCCI request on the first day. All BCCI asked was for a neutral venue for Indian team. If they had agreed I guess Asia cup wouldn't have shifted to another country.

This is why you shouldn't come onto the media before negotiating t&c. Ramiz Raza made a mockery of this issue and then Sethi. Did we hear anyone from BCCI or ACC giving public statement in front of the media?

The media rights holder (Star Sports) paid an additional premium because there are matches between India and Pakistan (1 match in group phase, and at least one more in the playoffs). In case Pakistan pulls out, and get replaced with United Arab Emirates (since they finished as the runners up for the ACC Premier Cup), then the India vs Pakistan match is not going to happen and Star has every right to ask for a refund. If India pulls out of the tournament, then it is going to be even worse. In that case Star will ask for a 100% refund.
If it was in the contract then I don't think it will be an issue. ACC would have taken into consideration the repercussions. Above all ACC has not removed Pakistan from the tournament. It is Pakistan which has said in multiple times that they will boycott the Asia cup if hosting rights are revoked. Now, the onus will lie on PCB and not on ACC.

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Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka Fast ODI match has started and Sri Lanka are batting in the first innings. Afghanistan has decided to opt bowl in the match. Sri Lanka are more likely to win today's match at their home ground they must perform well to win.  If Sri Lanka can improve on today's batting performance then surely they will be able to win their first ODI match against Afghanistan. If Sri Lanka can hold on to wickets in today's match, they will have a chance to score a lot of runs. Sri Lanka is more likely to win the match, Afghanistan may be under some pressure if they bowl well in today's match. Sri Lanka is already likely to win most of the matches while Afghanistan's percentage is very low.

Sri Lanka is more likely to win against Afghanistan but based on the recent performances the two teams will be almost on equal footing in the recently concluded IPL where the Afghan cricketers have performed brilliantly in batting and bowling. Every player who has performed in the IPL is in the squad against Sri Lanka except Rashid Khan. Rashid Khan's absence may be some comforting news for Sri Lanka. So far 3 overs have been played where Sri Lanka have already lost one wicket. If the wickets fall so quickly in the ODI match, the team is in a lot of batting trouble. I don't want to put any team forward for now because Afghanistan bowling line-up can destroy any batting line-up at any time.

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Is that news final or just another random drama article regarding Asia Cup?

Maybe broadcasters should sue the ACC but i guess broadcasters are Indian based so it could be a tricky situation. In recent times PCB made many bold comments about boycotting this and that, now time will tell if they keep their promise or not.

It seems it is final now! Unless another issue pops up from Pakistan Grin. Star Sports can sue ACC, eventually after that they will lose a lot of cricket broadcasting rights. That is why they won't do anything to make Chota Bhai angry.

PCB made a mess of it, they should have accepted BCCI request on the first day. All BCCI asked was for a neutral venue for Indian team. If they had agreed I guess Asia cup wouldn't have shifted to another country.

This is why you shouldn't come onto the media before negotiating t&c. Ramiz Raza made a mockery of this issue and then Sethi. Did we hear anyone from BCCI or ACC giving public statement in front of the media?
I think PCB had every right to play hardballs with the BCCI or ACC but they overplayed their hand with the hybrid model by blackmailing BCCI, they wanted to implement the same model for the upcoming WC and BCCI called their bluff, it might backfire if they actually boycott the WC.

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The media rights holder (Star Sports) paid an additional premium because there are matches between India and Pakistan (1 match in group phase, and at least one more in the playoffs). In case Pakistan pulls out, and get replaced with United Arab Emirates (since they finished as the runners up for the ACC Premier Cup), then the India vs Pakistan match is not going to happen and Star has every right to ask for a refund. If India pulls out of the tournament, then it is going to be even worse. In that case Star will ask for a 100% refund.
BCCI could compensate the broadcasters with a couple of bilateral series, this should cover their loss if there are any.

The problem will come when it's Broadcaster vs ICC.

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June 02, 2023, 05:08:41 AM
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Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka Fast ODI match has started and Sri Lanka are batting in the first innings. Afghanistan has decided to opt bowl in the match. Sri Lanka are more likely to win today's match at their home ground they must perform well to win.  If Sri Lanka can improve on today's batting performance then surely they will be able to win their first ODI match against Afghanistan. If Sri Lanka can hold on to wickets in today's match, they will have a chance to score a lot of runs. Sri Lanka is more likely to win the match, Afghanistan may be under some pressure if they bowl well in today's match. Sri Lanka is already likely to win most of the matches while Afghanistan's percentage is very low.

Several players from Afghanistan have already surprised many fans with their performances in the IPL. Especially Rashid Khan and Noor Ahmed were able to bring many benefits for themselves and the team in this year's IPL. Naveen -ul -Haque has performed well in this year's IPL but he is not in the squad for today's match.

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Sri Lanka is more likely to win against Afghanistan but based on the recent performances the two teams will be almost on equal footing in the recently concluded IPL where the Afghan cricketers have performed brilliantly in batting and bowling. Every player who has performed in the IPL is in the squad against Sri Lanka except Rashid Khan. Rashid Khan's absence may be some comforting news for Sri Lanka. So far 3 overs have been played where Sri Lanka have already lost one wicket. If the wickets fall so quickly in the ODI match, the team is in a lot of batting trouble. I don't want to put any team forward for now because Afghanistan bowling line-up can destroy any batting line-up at any time.

As per the ODI team ranking Afghanistan is right above Srilanka. As per overall performance of the Afghanistan team in ODI they have not played a lot of bilateral matches this year. Therefore the stats shows better than Srilanka.

The biggest benefit for Srilanka is that they are playing on their home ground. The wicket does help the spinners and both team have good spin attack. At the moment Srilanka has already lost it's first wicket within the powerplay. Not a good sign in my opinion.

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Sri Lanka is more likely to win against Afghanistan but based on the recent performances the two teams will be almost on equal footing in the recently concluded IPL where the Afghan cricketers have performed brilliantly in batting and bowling. Every player who has performed in the IPL is in the squad against Sri Lanka except Rashid Khan. Rashid Khan's absence may be some comforting news for Sri Lanka. So far 3 overs have been played where Sri Lanka have already lost one wicket. If the wickets fall so quickly in the ODI match, the team is in a lot of batting trouble. I don't want to put any team forward for now because Afghanistan bowling line-up can destroy any batting line-up at any time.

As per the ODI team ranking Afghanistan is right above Srilanka. As per overall performance of the Afghanistan team in ODI they have not played a lot of bilateral matches this year. Therefore the stats shows better than Srilanka.

The biggest benefit for Srilanka is that they are playing on their home ground. The wicket does help the spinners and both team have good spin attack. At the moment Srilanka has already lost it's first wicket within the powerplay. Not a good sign in my opinion.
As this series is being held at Sri Lanka's home ground, Sri Lanka will undoubtedly take the home advantage in this series. In bilateral series, each team usually takes home advantage. If a country hosts a series, then the pitch is made according to the bowlers of that country, as a result of which the host bowlers get a better advantage.  
Afghanistan is very strong in terms of spin bowlers and they will have some advantage against Sri Lanka. It seems that Sri Lanka has made a bowling dependent pitch. Because Sri Lanka have collected only 39 runs in 9 overs where they have already lost two wickets.

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June 02, 2023, 05:31:15 AM
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BCCI could compensate the broadcasters with a couple of bilateral series, this should cover their loss if there are any.

The problem will come when it's Broadcaster vs ICC.

In case of Asia Cup, it is going to be Broadcasters vs ACC. And I don't know the details, because unlike the ICC, ACC never publishes the bid details on media rights. In case Pakistan pulls out of the ODI World Cup later this year, then it will impact the ICC. Already there is an understanding that Star Sports (and Zee also) paid a lot more for the media rights than the initial estimates (2024-27 cycle). If there is a possibility of Pakistan pulling out of the subsequent tournaments, then they may ask the ICC to bring down the auction rate (2026 T20I World Cup is supposed to be hosted by India, while Pakistan is hosting the 2025 ICC Champions Trophy).

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Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka Fast ODI match has started and Sri Lanka are batting in the first innings. Afghanistan has decided to opt bowl in the match. Sri Lanka are more likely to win today's match at their home ground they must perform well to win.  If Sri Lanka can improve on today's batting performance then surely they will be able to win their first ODI match against Afghanistan. If Sri Lanka can hold on to wickets in today's match, they will have a chance to score a lot of runs. Sri Lanka is more likely to win the match, Afghanistan may be under some pressure if they bowl well in today's match. Sri Lanka is already likely to win most of the matches while Afghanistan's percentage is very low.

Afghanistan won the toss and elected to field. Sri Lanka scored 62 runs with 3 wickets in 15 overs. Dimuth Karunaratne was dismissed for 2 runs off 6 balls, Kusal Mendis was dismissed for 11 runs off 17 balls, Angelo Mathews was dismissed for 12 runs off 21 balls. Sri Lanka's runs are almost OK, but are under pressure to lose 3 crucial wickets. Fazalhaq Farooqi took 2 wickets, Fareed Ahmad Malik took 1 wicket.

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June 02, 2023, 06:20:45 AM
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Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka Fast ODI match has started and Sri Lanka are batting in the first innings. Afghanistan has decided to opt bowl in the match. Sri Lanka are more likely to win today's match at their home ground they must perform well to win.  If Sri Lanka can improve on today's batting performance then surely they will be able to win their first ODI match against Afghanistan. If Sri Lanka can hold on to wickets in today's match, they will have a chance to score a lot of runs. Sri Lanka is more likely to win the match, Afghanistan may be under some pressure if they bowl well in today's match. Sri Lanka is already likely to win most of the matches while Afghanistan's percentage is very low.

Afghanistan won the toss and elected to field. Sri Lanka scored 62 runs with 3 wickets in 15 overs. Dimuth Karunaratne was dismissed for 2 runs off 6 balls, Kusal Mendis was dismissed for 11 runs off 17 balls, Angelo Mathews was dismissed for 12 runs off 21 balls. Sri Lanka's runs are almost OK, but are under pressure to lose 3 crucial wickets. Fazalhaq Farooqi took 2 wickets, Fareed Ahmad Malik took 1 wicket.

This match will be very competitive. The Afghanistan team is strong enough. And Afghanistan's performance is improving day by day. On the other hand, the performance of the Sri Lankan players is completely erratic. There is no batsman in the team who is able to perform consistently and responsibly in every match. And so in this series, I consider the Afghanistan team as the favorite.

At the end of 20 overs, Sri Lanka scored only 85 runs, and they lost 4 important wickets. Dhananjaya De Silva is at the crease. And if he can't bat well then Sri Lanka will not be able to score even 200 runs today.

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June 02, 2023, 06:33:41 AM
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Afghanistan has started very strongly and now Sri Lanka is struggling at 95/4 after 21 overs. Four of their top order batsmen are back in the pavilion, including Angelo Mathews, Kusal Mendis, Dimuth Karunaratne and Pathum Nissanka. Fazalhaq Farooqi has taken 2 wickets till now and the remaining wickets were picked up by Mujeeb Ur Rahman and Fareed Ahmad. Sri Lanka needs to be cautious now. The pitch at Mahinda Rajapaksa International Cricket Stadium is quite supportive for batsmen and any total less than 250-260 would be easy target for the Afghans.   

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Afghanistan has started very strongly and now Sri Lanka is struggling at 95/4 after 21 overs. Four of their top order batsmen are back in the pavilion, including Angelo Mathews, Kusal Mendis, Dimuth Karunaratne and Pathum Nissanka. Fazalhaq Farooqi has taken 2 wickets till now and the remaining wickets were picked up by Mujeeb Ur Rahman and Fareed Ahmad. Sri Lanka needs to be cautious now. The pitch at Mahinda Rajapaksa International Cricket Stadium is quite supportive for batsmen and any total less than 250-260 would be easy target for the Afghans.   

The pitch is not bowling-friendly. However, the performance of Sri Lanka's top order left me very disappointed. Pathum Nissanka scored 38 runs. Besides, no other batsman can play well in the top order. Sri Lanka scored 30 runs from the partnership of Asalanga and Dhananjaya. Sri Lanka now collects 114 runs. If Sri Lanka can't collect a big score from this partnership then I think there is no chance of Sri Lanka winning. Given a target of 200-220, Sri Lanka will not win. A target of at least 260-280 runs must be given to win.

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Today's 1st ODI match of Afghanistan tour of Sri Lanka team has already started.Afghanistan won the toss and decided to bowl.Sri Lanka now came out to bat.137 runs in 30 overs.So far Sri Lanka has lost 4 strong wickets.Looking at the game  It seems that batsmen of Sri Lanka team are under a lot of pressure. Fazalhaq Farooqi of Afghanistan team took 2 wickets with 22 runs in 5 overs. It seems that Sri Lanka will not be able to score more than 250 runs today.


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