2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Scripture]

I've read a post that if ever Meralco wins the 6th game, then the game 7th is going to be on the Philippine Arena. Well, it's already been said here IIRC a few days ago.
But the thing that caught the attention of the people on that post is about "IF". They've given a big meaning to that because they're telling that Ginebra is going to lose in advance.

I wonder what would be the total crowd number if we are able to go for a game 7, well Ginebra didn’t need to wait for that moment and they want to claim the championship already. That was a great run by Ginebra and every player really contributes, they all deserve the title and congrats to all the bettors who also won a money by supporting Ginebra that includes me.

I think the total number of people watching the do-or-die game would reach 60k individuals, unfortunately, Ginebra Kings did not let it happen though. I hope that win of Ginebra last night would end all speculations/rumors that PBA games are staged.

Personally, I did not bet on that game as I thought that Meralco would win because the series is a see-saw battle (not because it is staged).

Ginebra ends that rumor and 20k live viewers last night was still a huge number though it could be more if there’s a game 7. Anyway, its really good to see Ginebra winning with a huge crowd, they are really the people champion and they didn’t disappoint the fans this conference. Looking forward for the next one, let’s see if Meralco and Magnolia will bounce back and challenge Ginebra again.

[goinmerry]

Hello for those people saying PBA is monopolized and everything is business Maybe true in some cases especially in giving trade rights but not on a Finals series between two different companies. Maybe if between sister teams, that is possible although it's on the officiating and not on the team and players themselves.

Even Brownlee's poor performance in the first half makes people think that it's already scripted and Meralco will control the game. The low scoring in the first half was also even pointed out. But in the second half, Brownlee does his Brownlee thing.

2 months from now I think, the next conference will commence.

[LogitechMouse]

Hello for those people saying PBA is monopolized and everything is business Maybe true in some cases especially in giving trade rights but not on a Finals series between two different companies. Maybe if between sister teams, that is possible although it's on the officiating and not on the team and players themselves.

Even Brownlee's poor performance in the first half makes people think that it's already scripted and Meralco will control the game. The low scoring in the first half was also even pointed out. But in the second half, Brownlee does his Brownlee thing.

2 months from now I think, the next conference will commence.

I'm one of the few people who thinks like this and maybe lets change the word "monopoly" into "duopoly" since the league isn't for one company only but 2 of them namely SMC and MVP . Maybe we can disregard the PBA Finals on this one but... I want to see an independent team going into the PBA Finals or even Semis and not the same SMC and MVP teams always.

Now with regards to PBA is business, it really is business . What is the main reason why companies wanted to join the PBA? To advertise their company and its part of their business . Why would the PBA wants to continue the league? We can say for entertainment yes but its very hypocrite if we will say that it isn't because of money. Again business . Not debating whatsoever but I just want to share my opinion regarding PBA a monopoly and a business.

Brownlee played poorly I agree but this is where the Locals stepped up especially Tenorio who made the dagger three to seal the deal in the final quarter. Congrats to Scottie Thompson as well in his Finals MVP. Well deserved.

[goinmerry]

Hello for those people saying PBA is monopolized and everything is business Maybe true in some cases especially in giving trade rights but not on a Finals series between two different companies. Maybe if between sister teams, that is possible although it's on the officiating and not on the team and players themselves.

Even Brownlee's poor performance in the first half makes people think that it's already scripted and Meralco will control the game. The low scoring in the first half was also even pointed out. But in the second half, Brownlee does his Brownlee thing.

2 months from now I think, the next conference will commence.

Now with regards to PBA is business, it really is business . What is the main reason why companies wanted to join the PBA? To advertise their company and its part of their business . Why would the PBA wants to continue the league? We can say for entertainment yes but its very hypocrite if we will say that it isn't because of money. Again business . Not debating whatsoever but I just want to share my opinion regarding PBA a monopoly and a business.

You got mislead, bro.

What I'm saying about business is the other side of the league, for example manipulating trade rights and approving an unfair trade and they will call it fair, something like that. In other words, there's a business internally.

Of course, PBA is business in terms of advertising, marketing, etc and that's obvious.

You didn't get what I'm trying to point out and really focus on the word "business".

[Fredomago]

You got mislead, bro.

What I'm saying about business is the other side of the league, for example manipulating trade rights and approving an unfair trade and they will call it fair, something like that. In other words, there's a business internally.

Of course, PBA is business in terms of advertising, marketing, etc and that's obvious.

You didn't get what I'm trying to point out and really focus on the word "business".

And that's reality, it's still ongoing in terms of unfair trades but nothing can be done since both teams agree and the PBA lets them to deal and sign the contract of those players who are involved with the trades. PBA have internal business we can't deny that but if things has been done legally and there's no opposing party that can prove the irregularity then we will continue to see this kind of manipulations, is all about how the team owners manage to play aside from the actual game inside the court.

[blockman]

Welp, Ginebra won and they're now this conference's champion. And it's just an "IF" if ever there will be a game 7 but not anymore.
The conference has ended and it's a sweet victory for the Gin kings and the next conference is I'm excited for, Alaska out - Converge in.

No more conspiracy theory, the better team won the game and Ginebra was already declared as the champion. That was too easy, 3 straight wins to end the series and Thompson again received an award, such a very impressive season for this kid, not surprised if he wins the season's MVP as well.

Yeah, it has broken the theory that it's all scripted, fake and already set for game 7. But honestly, I want to see a game 7 match and it's going to be the one most exciting moments for these two wins.
But anyway, it has ended and the best team has won, Ginebra! I've got a friend who bet 50k php for Meralco and sorry that his bet got to lose.

[Shamm]

Welp, Ginebra won and they're now this conference's champion. And it's just an "IF" if ever there will be a game 7 but not anymore.
The conference has ended and it's a sweet victory for the Gin kings and the next conference is I'm excited for, Alaska out - Converge in.

No more conspiracy theory, the better team won the game and Ginebra was already declared as the champion. That was too easy, 3 straight wins to end the series and Thompson again received an award, such a very impressive season for this kid, not surprised if he wins the season's MVP as well.

Yeah, it has broken the theory that it's all scripted, fake and already set for game 7. But honestly, I want to see a game 7 match and it's going to be the one most exciting moments for these two wins.
But anyway, it has ended and the best team has won, Ginebra! I've got a friend who bet 50k php for Meralco and sorry that his bet got to lose.

I thought it also that there's a game seven of this match between the ginebra and meralco bolts but  I am surprised that the three win streak of the ginebra will end the conference and ill prefer ginebra to win in game seven . Anyways ginebra is the king if comeback they can win even they are on bottom like in implementation round they are not in the too but by the help of their import they advance to the finals and now they won the championships.

[bisdak40]

Have you guys noticed that CStand was playing so well in the finals series? Ordinary fans could not notice his contributions but the hassle he gave to the Ginebra Kings was amazing plus the fact that he control the boards so well in the absence of Japeth Aguilar.

I hope that all the rumors of CStand's relationship with teammates is not now under the bridge and he stays with the team and win more trophies with them as he also a crowd drawer IMO, so he is fit to play with Ginebra.

[agustina2]

I hope that all the rumors of CStand's relationship with teammates is not under the bridge and he stays with the team and win more trophies with them as he also a crowd drawer IMO, so he is fit to play with Ginebra.

I'm not aware of that. Is there a rumor about the possibility of Christian Standhardinger being shipped to another team or does he have some misunderstandings with some other guys out there in their locker room?

Is that what you meant, mate?

Although not much productivity in the recent Finals, his presence inside the paint is effective to cover the absence of Japeth Aguilar in both offense and defense. But yes, he might want again to be one of the main options of a team and not just doing a backup role where he hasn't used to be.

[harizen]

PBA now released the draft order for the upcoming PBA Rookie Draft 2022.

Blackwater Bossing
Terrafima DYIP
Converge FiberXers

I will just list the Top 3 since they are the most noticeable teams that should have a good pick. I hope they will be able to select a good rookie that can add a boost to their teams. These teams are always at the bottom. We want something new.

I don't know though if those players in former Alaska will retain their contract at Converge as from what I remember, only 3 players from Alaska will be kept by Converge and one of them is Jeron Teng.

[bisdak40]

I hope that all the rumors of CStand's relationship with teammates is not under the bridge and he stays with the team and win more trophies with them as he also a crowd drawer IMO, so he is fit to play with Ginebra.

I'm not aware of that. Is there a rumor about the possibility of Christian Standhardinger being shipped to another team or does he have some misunderstandings with some other guys out there in their locker room?

Is that what you meant, mate?

Although not much productivity in the recent Finals, his presence inside the paint is effective to cover the absence of Japeth Aguilar in both offense and defense. But yes, he might want again to be one of the main options of a team and not just doing a backup role where he hasn't used to be.

Yup, that is what I meant. There are even talks that he will be shipped to Magnolia in exchange for Calvin Abueva and also there was a rumor that he will play in Japan but that is not possible now as he was offered a contract extension which he already accepted.

Though not too productive in offense but his defense on Tony Bishop was extraordinary for me as the latter's offense mainly came from outside jumpers, rarely in the paint as CStand was always there ready to bang bodies with him.

[LogitechMouse]

Hello for those people saying PBA is monopolized and everything is business Maybe true in some cases especially in giving trade rights but not on a Finals series between two different companies. Maybe if between sister teams, that is possible although it's on the officiating and not on the team and players themselves.

Even Brownlee's poor performance in the first half makes people think that it's already scripted and Meralco will control the game. The low scoring in the first half was also even pointed out. But in the second half, Brownlee does his Brownlee thing.

2 months from now I think, the next conference will commence.

Now with regards to PBA is business, it really is business . What is the main reason why companies wanted to join the PBA? To advertise their company and its part of their business . Why would the PBA wants to continue the league? We can say for entertainment yes but its very hypocrite if we will say that it isn't because of money. Again business . Not debating whatsoever but I just want to share my opinion regarding PBA a monopoly and a business.

You got mislead, bro.

What I'm saying about business is the other side of the league, for example manipulating trade rights and approving an unfair trade and they will call it fair, something like that. In other words, there's a business internally.

Of course, PBA is business in terms of advertising, marketing, etc and that's obvious.

You didn't get what I'm trying to point out and really focus on the word "business".

My apologies on that bro . I thought you are talking about the business in literal. I'm a bit close-minded on that part so my apologies .

Now regarding on what you said, I just don't know why they need to do unfair trades. That just kill the competition of the whole league. That just decreases the chances of independent teams to enter the playoffs because they are left with some average players only. These companies are just offering free agent players more money just to play in their team. I don't want to give teams but we've seen players who went from this where he is playing many minutes to team to another team and ended up as a bench with limited minutes.

One solution to this maybe is the salary transparency. If they will be transparent on how much the salary of each player is like in the NBA, it might solve this problem. The chances of this to happen though is very low to zero.

[Russlenat]

Have you guys noticed that CStand was playing so well in the finals series? Ordinary fans could not notice his contributions but the hassle he gave to the Ginebra Kings was amazing plus the fact that he control the boards so well in the absence of Japeth Aguilar.

I hope that all the rumors of CStand's relationship with teammates is not now under the bridge and he stays with the team and win more trophies with them as he also a crowd drawer IMO, so he is fit to play with Ginebra.

C Stand have proven himself to be a champion, he won a championship on both SMB and BGSM, so he is a true San Miguel Warrior. Yeah, I love the way he played in the Finals, he was aggressive and in fact I saw a big improvement on his mid range shooting. Having Japeth and him in the middle is really a big problem for the opposing team, so as long as C Stand will stay, the management would probably keep him.

[freedomgo]

Have you guys noticed that CStand was playing so well in the finals series? Ordinary fans could not notice his contributions but the hassle he gave to the Ginebra Kings was amazing plus the fact that he control the boards so well in the absence of Japeth Aguilar.

I hope that all the rumors of CStand's relationship with teammates is not now under the bridge and he stays with the team and win more trophies with them as he also a crowd drawer IMO, so he is fit to play with Ginebra.

C Stand have proven himself to be a champion, he won a championship on both SMB and BGSM, so he is a true San Miguel Warrior. Yeah, I love the way he played in the Finals, he was aggressive and in fact I saw a big improvement on his mid range shooting. Having Japeth and him in the middle is really a big problem for the opposing team, so as long as C Stand will stay, the management would probably keep him.

Yes, this is the best season he has with Ginebra, now that he has a great chemistry with the Ginebra, I would expect them to win more championship together. The good thing with Ginebra is that C. Stand is not expected to carry all the load, he has his teammates whom he can trust, and an improve Scottie Thompson is really big for the team.

[goaldigger]

Yes, this is the best season he has with Ginebra, now that he has a great chemistry with the Ginebra, I would expect them to win more championship together. The good thing with Ginebra is that C. Stand is not expected to carry all the load, he has his teammates whom he can trust, and an improve Scottie Thompson is really big for the team.

C. Stand might not be the highlights for the conference but I agree on this, I saw his improvements and saw a good games as well with him, if he can able to build a good chemistry with other players, I believe for a stronger Ginbera and C. Stand really have to do his best. What’s the next conference with PBA? Can’t see any details on google though.

[blockman]

Yeah, it has broken the theory that it's all scripted, fake and already set for game 7. But honestly, I want to see a game 7 match and it's going to be the one most exciting moments for these two wins.
But anyway, it has ended and the best team has won, Ginebra! I've got a friend who bet 50k php for Meralco and sorry that his bet got to lose.

I thought it also that there's a game seven of this match between the ginebra and meralco bolts but  I am surprised that the three win streak of the ginebra will end the conference and ill prefer ginebra to win in game seven . Anyways ginebra is the king if comeback they can win even they are on bottom like in implementation round they are not in the too but by the help of their import they advance to the finals and now they won the championships.

Yeah, was able to see their progress at semis and thought that they'll be out but all of those expectations that we've thought. They've just broken it.
They're the best team for this conference and will they be able to retain that for the next season? I guess so. Well, now that the championship is finished, I'm starting to see now those veteran players advertising their political bets.

[harizen]

What’s the next conference with PBA? Can’t see any details on google though.

Season-reset I think since it's a new year. It's just that Governors Cup got delayed last year.

All-Filipino Cup will be the next conference I think at 99.9% since if they will still push the Commissioner's Cup that is supposed to happen in the last quarter of the year, there will be a very big adjustment on the phase of the PBA season. I also don't hear rumors about new imports and as well, the upcoming rookie draft is now taking place in a few weeks.

All Filipino Cup - Governors Cup - Commissioners Cup

[Questat]

What’s the next conference with PBA? Can’t see any details on google though.

Season-reset I think since it's a new year. It's just that Governors Cup got delayed last year.

All-Filipino Cup will be the next conference I think at 99.9% since if they will still push the Commissioner's Cup that is supposed to happen in the last quarter of the year, there will be a very big adjustment on the phase of the PBA season. I also don't hear rumors about new imports and as well, the upcoming rookie draft is now taking place in a few weeks.

All Filipino Cup - Governors Cup - Commissioners Cup

That's still good, All Filipino cup is next then we will see if the Ginebra can still do it. Many are saying that Ginebra only become better because of their import, if they will go back to all Filipino cup then my prediction is TNT will win the championship.

[mirakal]

What’s the next conference with PBA? Can’t see any details on google though.

Season-reset I think since it's a new year. It's just that Governors Cup got delayed last year.

All-Filipino Cup will be the next conference I think at 99.9% since if they will still push the Commissioner's Cup that is supposed to happen in the last quarter of the year, there will be a very big adjustment on the phase of the PBA season. I also don't hear rumors about new imports and as well, the upcoming rookie draft is now taking place in a few weeks.

All Filipino Cup - Governors Cup - Commissioners Cup

That's still good, All Filipino cup is next then we will see if the Ginebra can still do it. Many are saying that Ginebra only become better because of their import, if they will go back to all Filipino cup then my prediction is TNT will win the championship.

I would go with the TNT as well, they lose this conference because they don't have a good import but comes the All Filipino cup, they have a lot of good local players especially Mikey Williams who leads the TNT to the championship last All Filipino Cup. Right now, there's no announcement yet as to when PBA will resume, but it's understandable because it's still too early, maybe they are still enjoying their break now.

[carlisle1]

I would go with the TNT as well, they lose this conference because they don't have a good import but comes the All Filipino cup, they have a lot of good local players especially Mikey Williams who leads the TNT to the championship last All Filipino Cup. Right now, there's no announcement yet as to when PBA will resume, but it's understandable because it's still too early, maybe they are still enjoying their break now.

If Ginebra will have their complete squad, a healthy roster that will change the pace of this new season. I believe that they can

compete even without Brownlee at their side It's just a matter of how they can continue the chemistries among the players, might be a good

match up between Thomson and William in case they've got the chance of competing in the finals. We never know, but let's wait for the next

PBA opening and see how the competition will be done.