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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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August 30, 2022, 03:49:49 PM
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The current lineup that defeated the KSA is already a good roster, leaded by Clarkson, I think with better chemistry and coaching job, we could have won against Lebanon.

Yes, because we have Kai Sotto and Clarkson already, how much more if we already have Jalen Green who is also an NBA player, this team will really improve so we need a good coach to carry it to its success.

We already have Clarkson and Kai plus Ramos, we need now locals who can add up to this strong cores, Fajardo, Perez, Romeo (if he already recover from his injury) I've heard that Slaughter is also one of the player that coach Tim wanted to pair with Kai it's still another year of preparation, if All those Giants can be mixed together and have a good blends we do have a much deeper squad. No offense with coach Choke, but we needed to solidify our country and fans are calling for him to step down. In international coverage booing the head coach inside your homeland is something that the sports commission needed to address.


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Meanwhile, let's talk about the game tomorrow. I checked on my bookie and the line was very surprising.

SMB now is -3.5, the opposite of line in game 4.  Shocked
Thanks for bringing this up, I assume that because of that last lost SMB will try harder to win this upcoming game 5.
We might see adjustment again with tougher defense against the three guards of TNT who really contributed a lot from that
game 4 wins.

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August 30, 2022, 08:30:35 PM
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I miss the old Gilas, the Romeo and Castro lineup, they are well coached.

The Gilas I missed are the Castro, Tenorio, and Alapag lineup. It is still a dribble-drive play style but they were successful in executing it. They have plenty of time to practice that time which is why they were able to execute their play perfectly. And they have lots of shooters that they can kick the ball out to when the drive lane is not viable. The players trust each other and there is no player who dominates the ball too much. The movement of the ball is quick and precise. That lineup is exciting to watch.
Castro was offered to play but he's the one to decline it. He wants to give the chance to the other young players and that showed how much respect he's got to the new players.
And that also gained him much respect from the fans, if Chot is like that. Instead of hate, he'll get much respect from the fans instead.

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August 30, 2022, 09:38:38 PM
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The current lineup that defeated the KSA is already a good roster, leaded by Clarkson, I think with better chemistry and coaching job, we could have won against Lebanon.

Yes, because we have Kai Sotto and Clarkson already, how much more if we already have Jalen Green who is also an NBA player, this team will really improve so we need a good coach to carry it to its success.

Meanwhile, let's talk about the game tomorrow. I checked on my bookie and the line was very surprising.

SMB now is -3.5, the opposite of line in game 4.  Shocked
Let’s move on and see if Gilas will improve more on their next games, probably later this year.
The odds for SMB is quiet huge, I didn’t expect that since I though it will just -1.5, as usual the favorite team to win and they are so confident that SMB will take the lead again. It’s more exciting to see this kind of odds, i’ll place some bet against that odds, let’s see if TNT can really make a another good win tonight.

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August 30, 2022, 11:07:38 PM
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The current lineup that defeated the KSA is already a good roster, leaded by Clarkson, I think with better chemistry and coaching job, we could have won against Lebanon.

Yes, because we have Kai Sotto and Clarkson already, how much more if we already have Jalen Green who is also an NBA player, this team will really improve so we need a good coach to carry it to its success.

Meanwhile, let's talk about the game tomorrow. I checked on my bookie and the line was very surprising.

SMB now is -3.5, the opposite of line in game 4.  Shocked
Let’s move on and see if Gilas will improve more on their next games, probably later this year.
The odds for SMB is quiet huge, I didn’t expect that since I though it will just -1.5, as usual the favorite team to win and they are so confident that SMB will take the lead again. It’s more exciting to see this kind of odds, i’ll place some bet against that odds, let’s see if TNT can really make a another good win tonight.

Yes, I just check the odds, its not -3.5 for SMB at 1.82, so I will take this one and hope they can bounce back and take a commanding league.

As for Gilas, we can't really compare those players before, sure we have somewhat reminisce some players, but we have a bunch now and seeing Jordan Clarkson playing together with Kai Sotto? future looks bright for us to at least get one full blooded Filipino to play in the NBA in the next coming years.

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August 31, 2022, 03:16:51 AM
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Aside from the fact that Indonesia defeated the Gilas in the SEA Games, let's also add that Japan ended the 12 year drought against us. They didn't defeat the PH for more than a decade and it ended in their last game when the PH lost. Who is the coach? Coach Chot. I just don't know why the SBP still keeping him even though Coach Chot already rendered a resignation letter to them already. Well, I just hope that a miracle will happen in the World Cup and we will have a different coach at that time. We still have a year to go to decide which coach will replace or worst, he might not get replaced.

SBP does want to piss the fans, in that game, people are booing chat, I hope they already see that as a sign that we don't want him coaching our strong roster. I mean, if we ever reach in the world cup, we need a level-up coach, not someone who are always criticized by the fans.

I miss the old Gilas, the Romeo and Castro lineup, they are well coached.

LOL, why would they do that?

Maybe they cannot afford to pay a foreign coach, so they stick with Chot Reyes to coach the team. I think if that's the reason, then maybe at least hire the coach of Ginebra San Miguel, I believe he is way better than coach Chot Reyes, that's my personal opinion only.
We actually don’t know what’s happening with them and why they are still focused to Chot Reyes, maybe it left them with no choice and beside, Chot Reyes is still good in other ways, maybe that’s the thing they saw to Reyes. Well, whoever the coach is as long as we have those good players I believe we can still deliver, they just need a good chemistry and a good playing system, that can be discussed with the other staff. Let’s continue to support Gilas and give them the respected they deserve, they have more games to come too early to celebrate.
I don't think that they have no choice to find another coach, but the connections I think is the reason why they don't want him to resign. You know it already. You feel strong if you have connections.

I want Coach Chot to be replaced and others as well including Snow Badua but I think he can still do his job as a coach. He got a very good Gilas roster already. What they need now is time to train (at least 2-3 months or better if more). I saw a Facebook post hours ago and he said, "It doesn't matter if you have all-star players or not. If you don't have time to train for the upcoming World Cup, then it will affect the whole team." With this, I still believe that Coach Chot can at least do his job and what they only need is time. Overall, whatever it is, I agree that let's just support the Gilas team.

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August 31, 2022, 11:07:19 AM
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Another close game, this time TNT takes the lead in the 1st half so that +3.5 takers should be calm now.  Smiley

Let's see if SMB will be able to bounce back in the 2nd half, but I think TNT is taking control here, they  have the better ball movement compared to the SMB.

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August 31, 2022, 11:19:56 AM
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Another close game, this time TNT takes the lead in the 1st half so that +3.5 takers should be calm now.  Smiley

Let's see if SMB will be able to bounce back in the 2nd half, but I think TNT is taking control here, they  have the better ball movement compared to the SMB.

SMB Beermen up by two points as of this writing, oh boy what a close game. This is not good for those bettors that bet big while they have a medical condition, and could have a heart attack if they watch the game.

This is what I like about this series, hard to predict on who will win. I like SMB to win this game 5 but it is interesting to note that coach Chot has not lost yet a game in this series hehe, he might not have a stroke of good luck on his Gilas team but he might be lucky on his TNT team.
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August 31, 2022, 11:21:08 AM
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Another close game, this time TNT takes the lead in the 1st half so that +3.5 takers should be calm now.  Smiley

Let's see if SMB will be able to bounce back in the 2nd half, but I think TNT is taking control here, they  have the better ball movement compared to the SMB.

I picked SMB to win by 11+ points live when I saw Castro was limping. If he really is injured, then I guess there's a chance that SMB will dominate the game. It's still too early though, the game is still close and I don't know what will happen, all I feel now is the excitement watching the game.

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August 31, 2022, 11:50:47 AM
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Looks like TNT is winning this game, they don't have Jason Castro on the floor but their defense has improve and they are getting easy shots, especially an open outside shots. There's still a time though, if SMB can have another big run, maybe this game will go to overtime again.

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August 31, 2022, 12:20:27 PM
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Looks like TNT is winning this game, they don't have Jason Castro on the floor but their defense has improve and they are getting easy shots, especially an open outside shots. There's still a time though, if SMB can have another big run, maybe this game will go to overtime again.
TNT win in game 5 and now a win away to claim another title in PBA.
I'm quiet disappointed on the plays of SMB tonight, it looks like they are off but the game is very close, bad for them they didn't able to take the lead again. Good to see TNT playing a good game even without their key player. SMB should do better on their next game or else, they'll miss the chance for another title. JMF should play well and the other key player of SMB, this is not the end yet. A back to back win for Chot Reyes, kudos!

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August 31, 2022, 01:53:49 PM
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Looks like TNT is winning this game, they don't have Jason Castro on the floor but their defense has improve and they are getting easy shots, especially an open outside shots. There's still a time though, if SMB can have another big run, maybe this game will go to overtime again.
TNT win in game 5 and now a win away to claim another title in PBA.
I'm quiet disappointed on the plays of SMB tonight, it looks like they are off but the game is very close, bad for them they didn't able to take the lead again. Good to see TNT playing a good game even without their key player. SMB should do better on their next game or else, they'll miss the chance for another title. JMF should play well and the other key player of SMB, this is not the end yet. A back to back win for Chot Reyes, kudos!

It is a heartbreak that san miguel lose this very important game. Now TNT has solidified its momentum. They have won twice in a row against the beermen. Though they can stlll come back from this for sure.

I thought it will be an easy win to SMB when Castro was sidelined due to a bad fall, but the heart of TNT never falters. They even became more aggressive, and the defense was the one that killed smb. Kudos to Kelly, he is playing like a young gun again.
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August 31, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
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It's a big win for TNT and all they need is 1 more win to claim the back to back champion. It is bad for SMB don't know what happen I also thought that they are the winner of this game 5 but not. All their play are controlled by the TNT players and especially kelly willams he is doing good in this night.  Next game SMB need to focus on good shot and good defense as well cause of they failed then the championship trophy goes to TNT.

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August 31, 2022, 03:00:12 PM
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Looks like TNT is winning this game, they don't have Jason Castro on the floor but their defense has improve and they are getting easy shots, especially an open outside shots. There's still a time though, if SMB can have another big run, maybe this game will go to overtime again.
TNT win in game 5 and now a win away to claim another title in PBA.
I'm quiet disappointed on the plays of SMB tonight, it looks like they are off but the game is very close, bad for them they didn't able to take the lead again. Good to see TNT playing a good game even without their key player. SMB should do better on their next game or else, they'll miss the chance for another title. JMF should play well and the other key player of SMB, this is not the end yet. A back to back win for Chot Reyes, kudos!

It is a heartbreak that san miguel lose this very important game. Now TNT has solidified its momentum. They have won twice in a row against the beermen. Though they can stlll come back from this for sure.

I thought it will be an easy win to SMB when Castro was sidelined due to a bad fall, but the heart of TNT never falters. They even became more aggressive, and the defense was the one that killed smb. Kudos to Kelly, he is playing like a young gun again.

The Williams step up together with Poguy and Erram. They outscore the Beermen with the kind of aggressiveness that really gives them that big advantage; I don't know what happens to SMB, but instead of bringing the ball to Fajardo, they keep giving it to Tau and Cruz. Both do have a closer look at the basket, but the ball is not falling. We call it "Alat" SMB have that huge rally but are unable to convert those important baskets to tie or to make it closer.

While in TNT, they are all aggressive to make a basket or to grab the rebound and create a good play for the second chance point.

Congrats TNT! not a fan but they play harder than SMB today..

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August 31, 2022, 05:53:59 PM
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It's a big win for TNT and all they need is 1 more win to claim the back to back champion. It is bad for SMB don't know what happen I also thought that they are the winner of this game 5 but not. All their play are controlled by the TNT players and especially kelly willams he is doing good in this night.  Next game SMB need to focus on good shot and good defense as well cause of they failed then the championship trophy goes to TNT.
Congratulations to TNT. Yeah, just 1 more win and they're the champ again for this conference. Well, for the next game, SMB has to do anything that they have to do or else that will be the final night for them and we're now having the closing of this current conference. While on the other news, Bay Area Dragons won against Terrafirma with a practice game. The BAD will play in the next PBA conference right?

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August 31, 2022, 08:58:23 PM
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It's a big win for TNT and all they need is 1 more win to claim the back to back champion. It is bad for SMB don't know what happen I also thought that they are the winner of this game 5 but not. All their play are controlled by the TNT players and especially kelly willams he is doing good in this night.  Next game SMB need to focus on good shot and good defense as well cause of they failed then the championship trophy goes to TNT.
Congratulations to TNT. Yeah, just 1 more win and they're the champ again for this conference. Well, for the next game, SMB has to do anything that they have to do or else that will be the final night for them and we're now having the closing of this current conference. While on the other news, Bay Area Dragons won against Terrafirma with a practice game. The BAD will play in the next PBA conference right?
SMB have to go back on their good plays and strategy, they have to go all out next game to extend this series and I believe they are capable of doing this, they just need to stay focus and stay active.

Anyway, BAD is invited to be the guest team in the commissioner cup so most probably they will play here. This can be more exciting to have a guest team like that, though I still think that our local teams are still better but the exposure that we can get from there will be good.
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August 31, 2022, 09:27:11 PM
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SMB have to go back on their good plays and strategy, they have to go all out next game to extend this series and I believe they are capable of doing this, they just need to stay focus and stay active.
It is a do or die for the SMB for the next game. So, they have to put all on it or it's going to be the end of the grand finals.

Anyway, BAD is invited to be the guest team in the commissioner cup so most probably they will play here. This can be more exciting to have a guest team like that, though I still think that our local teams are still better but the exposure that we can get from there will be good.
It's going to be a good addition to the PBA for most of its players to experience that international feeling.
BAD is a strong team with those players that are seems to be normal in international leagues, so it's actually a good learning experience.

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August 31, 2022, 09:57:11 PM
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CJ Perez seems not on his usual playing level. Maybe because after all his effort he's not named as Best Player of the Conference. Just kidding. Cheesy I also thought that TNT will now start to struggle after Jayson Castro was sidelined because of an injury that I hoped it's a minor.

It's hard to imagine that a healthy SMB will lose 2 times in a row here in the series and yet TNT does it and defies all the odds.

TNT should now do everything to settle the Championship next game. It will be dangerous if SMB will able to bounce back.

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I want to share some PBA news outside the ongoing PBA All-Filipino Cup Finals. Smiley

Matthew Wright now finally bid goodbye to his team, Phoenix Fuel Masters after playing for 6 seasons here. His contract just expired with the team and no renewal happened on which the Phoenix respects Wright's decision.

He was speculated to be signed to the Japan B-League team and that was a rumor even before.

Phoenix lets go of Matthew Wright 'with a heavy heart'

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September 01, 2022, 03:58:41 AM
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CJ Perez seems not on his usual playing level. Maybe because after all his effort he's not named as Best Player of the Conference. Just kidding. Cheesy I also thought that TNT will now start to struggle after Jayson Castro was sidelined because of an injury that I hoped it's a minor.
The defense of the TNT is just good that's why they manage to lower the scoring of Perez. Let's take note that Perez and Manuel are the ones who carried the team in Game 2 but in the next 3 games, they aren't that efficient anymore.

On the other hand, the 2 Williams just exploded in Game 5 and it's a bit disappointing that SMB had what they called "Sorry Misses" meaning they have easy and open shots on the paint but can't make them.

Now the momentum has shifted, and TNT now has the lead. Having Coach Chot back really helped the team and even though they don't have Castro in the 4th quarter, players like MGR, Montalbo and Kelly Williams stepped up offensively and defensively. Just a one win more for them but I don't think that the SMB will just let them lose 3 straight and will force a Game 7.

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September 01, 2022, 08:58:10 AM
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CJ Perez seems not on his usual playing level. Maybe because after all his effort he's not named as Best Player of the Conference. Just kidding. Cheesy I also thought that TNT will now start to struggle after Jayson Castro was sidelined because of an injury that I hoped it's a minor.
The defense of the TNT is just good that's why they manage to lower the scoring of Perez. Let's take note that Perez and Manuel are the ones who carried the team in Game 2 but in the next 3 games, they aren't that efficient anymore.

On the other hand, the 2 Williams just exploded in Game 5 and it's a bit disappointing that SMB had what they called "Sorry Misses" meaning they have easy and open shots on the paint but can't make them.

Now the momentum has shifted, and TNT now has the lead. Having Coach Chot back really helped the team and even though they don't have Castro in the 4th quarter, players like MGR, Montalbo and Kelly Williams stepped up offensively and defensively. Just a one win more for them but I don't think that the SMB will just let them lose 3 straight and will force a Game 7.

It's not over yet, we have game 6 and I'm pretty sure that SMB will even the series. SMB are not lucky in that game, they have shots that are not falling although it looks easy, that's why TNT took advantage on that, also, I agree that the defense of the TNT were extremely good, reason why they have lots of stops.

No Jayson Castro, no problem.

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