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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
Total Voters: 120

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June 22, 2023, 02:45:08 PM
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Great midfielder, the numbers and creativity on the pitch would speak for him, disciplined player, technically, smart and a modern player all of the top sides would want to join em if not for his age.
Money is not everything for every player, infact Barcelona deserves such a player and Gundogan also deserves representing Barcelona.

Every team will be interested in a player who possesses many talents and is capable of performing effectively in a variety of positions, according to Gundogan. I was surprised to see the player put his career before of money and sign with Barcelona. With his potential, I believe he will perform better there, and once Manchester City has won the Champions League, it will be time for him to transfer his experience to another team. And one thing I appreciate about Manchester City is how they develop talented players.


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Xavi still needs a replacement for Sergio Busquet, he's not recruited a player for that position and also Gundogan won't be a great fit for that position if he was bought to replace Busquet. The name Joshua Kimmich have been mentioned severally, but the player have no plans and intentions to move to Barcelona.

xavi will be searching already for a player to fit in Sergio Busquet, since he is a defender I think xavi will need a strong player and aside been strong I think speed to matter a lots, I interesting part about football is that, every position is not as easy as you think ,  every position has there own work load. It is for this reason that occasionally I find it amusing how fans always complaining about a particular play has if its easy.

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June 22, 2023, 02:54:15 PM
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It seems that Barcelona is always lucky to bring in great players even though they are already +30 but their abilities are still very much needed. Last season Barcelona got a player like Lewandowski and some younger players and now, Barcelona got Gundogan at least in an easy way too. With a transfer like this, I personally believe that next season Barcelona can still dominate La Liga. But interestingly, whether the presence of Gundogan can make Barcelona's performance better in the Champions League, of course it will be an interesting thing to look forward to.
No one can guarantee whether the presence of Gundogan in the Barcelona squad will make them better or not. However, if you look at what Gundogan has done at his previous club, it is clear that there is great hope to be able to make Barcelona even more solid. He is an experienced player and also has good skills on the pitch. One more thing, at his previous club he succeeded with the strategy implemented by Pep Guardiola, and we know Xavi also has a strategy that is almost similar to what Pep Guardiola did, so I think strategically I'm sure he will quickly adapt to Barcelona.

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June 22, 2023, 02:56:32 PM
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The schedule of La Liga games has already been released, the 3 teams that are always in the whole will have very easy games on paper, for example:

August 13th:

Atletico Madrid - Granada
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Ath bilbao - real madrid
I agree that Barcelona and Atlético Madrid games are easy but we should not forget that the first games are always tricky and tend to be unpredictable with unexpected results.
Otherwise, a game having Bilbao on it could not be named an easy one, without counting the first matches surprise. Bilbao are an annoying opponent especially for top teams.

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Apart from the three you mentioned, Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona, I don't see any other team that can challenge the top and become the first in La Liga, honestly
Of course, this decreases competition but La Liga is not a very competitive championship, not like the Italian one
Predictions on clubs winning the La Liga is easy unlike other leagues. Considering they have high-quality players that can compete with the best, Spanish clubs are always the best among other league clubs. Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Athletico Madrid are the premier clubs, with the ability to win La Liga every season. It's almost as if they were born into the league, and average clubs will take a long time to beat the record. I can't see Sevilla or Villarreal finishing first in La Liga, because there are top competitive clubs that have only demonstrated fantastic performance against their players.

It will be difficult for any team to take la Liga league title from Real Madrid, Barcelona and Athletic Madrid because all those teams has potential squads that they are capable to lead the team to achieve their goal at the end of the season. Based on what is happening in this summer, showed that Barcelona will not miss the la Liga league title next season, because their coach is planning to bring more talented players that will help the team to embrace the title again next season. Sevilla and Villarreal still have a long way to go before they will be close to that position to lift la Liga league title, because Barcelona and Real Madrid will never allow such opportunity to happen now.
Barcelona's probability of winning next season's La Liga title is not certain. Remember,  we also have real Madrid in this race. The door is also open to Athletico Madrid too. Real Madrid were too focused on the EUFA champion league, this contributed to their lose form in La liga. despite the fact that Xavi is setting a good system In Baemrcelona, real Madrid may not want to miss next season's La Liga title to any other club. Though Madrid hasn't made moves to sign new players but I'm sure they will before the end of the transfer window.

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June 22, 2023, 03:08:18 PM
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It seems that Barcelona is always lucky to bring in great players even though they are already +30 but their abilities are still very much needed. Last season Barcelona got a player like Lewandowski and some younger players and now, Barcelona got Gundogan at least in an easy way too. With a transfer like this, I personally believe that next season Barcelona can still dominate La Liga. But interestingly, whether the presence of Gundogan can make Barcelona's performance better in the Champions League, of course it will be an interesting thing to look forward to.
The truth is, Barcelona is currently facing financial difficulties in acquiring star players, which is why they are targeting free transfer players like Gundogan. In terms of quality, Gundogan has the potential to fill the void left by Busquets and even surpass his predecessor. His presence at Camp Nou is expected to enhance creativity and increase the number of goals from the midfield.

With Xavi's expert guidance, it is hoped that Gundogan's inclusion in the team will lead Barcelona to become treble winners, just as he recently achieved with Manchester City. Given his wealth of experience, Gundogan shouldn't have much trouble adapting to his new team's playing style.

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June 22, 2023, 03:18:32 PM
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What's most interesting to wait for next season is Real Sociedad, Real Sociedad Return to the UEFA Champions League After 1 decade of waiting, can they make a new surprise next season? Real Sociedad last appeared in the 2013-2014 UCL season when they were reinforced by Claudio Bravo, Inigo Martinez, Antoine Griezmann and Carlos Vela, hopefully Real Sociedad can go further in the 2023-2024 UCL season.

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The truth is, Barcelona is currently facing financial difficulties in acquiring star players, which is why they are targeting free transfer players like Gundogan. In terms of quality, Gundogan has the potential to fill the void left by Busquets and even surpass his predecessor. His presence at Camp Nou is expected to enhance creativity and increase the number of goals from the midfield.

With Xavi's expert guidance, it is hoped that Gundogan's inclusion in the team will lead Barcelona to become treble winners, just as he recently achieved with Manchester City. Given his wealth of experience, Gundogan shouldn't have much trouble adapting to his new team's playing style.
True, Barcelona has financial problems that have discouraged them from buying more high-value star players. But you need to know, Barcelona can also be successful in this way even though some of its players have had to accept a decrease in salary.

Barcelona have been built in a different way because of financial, but they are still a team that can compete in any competition. Barcelona's proof was last season, even though they didn't sign many expensive players but they managed to win two domestic titles compared to other teams who have strong finances. Barcelona have a lot of quality players, and they are quite stable with some free players.

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June 22, 2023, 03:22:20 PM
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The schedule of La Liga games has already been released, the 3 teams that are always in the whole will have very easy games on paper, for example:

August 13th:

Atletico Madrid - Granada
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getafe - barcelona
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Ath bilbao - real madrid
I agree that Barcelona and Atlético Madrid games are easy but we should not forget that the first games are always tricky and tend to be unpredictable with unexpected results.
Otherwise, a game having Bilbao on it could not be named an easy one, without counting the first matches surprise. Bilbao are an annoying opponent especially for top teams.
The early matches of the season were really scary for me because every club wants to try to see and read the strategies that other clubs have because at the beginning of the season there will always be new players with new strategies so that there will be lots of surprises that will occur in the games at the start of the season.
Yes, I agree with you that Bilbao is sometimes very annoying at the start of the season as if it is very strong and in my opinion a top club later if they lose at the start of the season doesn't mean they are weak but it's just that they are trying to read the new strategies that several other clubs have.

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June 22, 2023, 03:29:06 PM
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getafe - barcelona

also looking at the excellent performance of barcelona last season that led them to become champions, and this season they are improving their squad even more, i see barcelona winning this game and getting 3 points
I just wanna see gundogan's performance with barcelona. Im feeling curious about many parties who said that if he was not fit to the barcelona. It will become a huge challenge for him to break all of bad opinions about him to join in barcelona and leave from the strongest squad in the world.
This match is quite interesting for me to be honest.

Ath bilbao - real madrid

without benzema and playing away from home, it will be a very difficult game for real madrid to win, it is not yet known to what extent the new player who came to replace benzema will be useful or not, but that is something we will see in the games friendlies that real madrid will make, according to google real madrid will have the friendlies with the following teams
Joselu is my main concern in this match but this game is still months ahead. Let's stick to the pre match that will be started from next month.

milan on the 23rd of july; manchester united on the 27th of july, barcelona on the 29th of july; juventus on the 2nd of August.
Im feeling that these friend matches gonna be very good challenge for joselu with madrid. It can become the best time for joselu to show how good he was after joining in real madrid.
Many people skeptical with his performance once he came to the real madrid but i trust him to be a good striker for madrid.

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June 22, 2023, 03:39:31 PM
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The truth is, Barcelona is currently facing financial difficulties in acquiring star players, which is why they are targeting free transfer players like Gundogan. In terms of quality, Gundogan has the potential to fill the void left by Busquets and even surpass his predecessor. His presence at Camp Nou is expected to enhance creativity and increase the number of goals from the midfield.

With Xavi's expert guidance, it is hoped that Gundogan's inclusion in the team will lead Barcelona to become treble winners, just as he recently achieved with Manchester City. Given his wealth of experience, Gundogan shouldn't have much trouble adapting to his new team's playing style.
True, Barcelona has financial problems that have discouraged them from buying more high-value star players. But you need to know, Barcelona can also be successful in this way even though some of its players have had to accept a decrease in salary.

Barcelona have been built in a different way because of financial, but they are still a team that can compete in any competition. Barcelona's proof was last season, even though they didn't sign many expensive players but they managed to win two domestic titles compared to other teams who have strong finances. Barcelona have a lot of quality players, and they are quite stable with some free players.

So far they seem to have found a smart way to increase the quality for their team. When they sign some who have an expired contract they can save a lot of money in that way and consolidate their finances. It is not yet known how many players more they are trying to bring to Barcelona, but they will need a few if they want to attack again. But they do need to improve their overall approach since they are in desperate need for a surplus.

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June 22, 2023, 03:57:21 PM
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So far they seem to have found a smart way to increase the quality for their team. When they sign some who have an expired contract they can save a lot of money in that way and consolidate their finances. It is not yet known how many players more they are trying to bring to Barcelona, but they will need a few if they want to attack again. But they do need to improve their overall approach since they are in desperate need for a surplus.
The idea is probably the same, as long as they are sure the player fits Barcelona's needs then I think Xavi would recommend the player to sign. Ilkay Gundogan is a good midfielder for Barcelona, ​​so I think Barcelona were lucky to sign him for a few seasons. Xavi may still need a few other good players who can balance his team, but I don't think he will be too pushy due to the team's not-so-good financial condition.

Xavi already has a good alternative to the former Manchester City captain. Ilkay Gundogan can act as a defensive midfielder although De Jong and Kessie can also play in that position. So Xavi has found what he was looking for after he lost Busquets, while in other positions I think Xavi also needs a good right-back instead of giving Araujo and Kounde a lot of chances.

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June 22, 2023, 04:04:46 PM
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So far they seem to have found a smart way to increase the quality for their team. When they sign some who have an expired contract they can save a lot of money in that way and consolidate their finances. It is not yet known how many players more they are trying to bring to Barcelona, but they will need a few if they want to attack again. But they do need to improve their overall approach since they are in desperate need for a surplus.
The idea is probably the same, as long as they are sure the player fits Barcelona's needs then I think Xavi would recommend the player to sign. Ilkay Gundogan is a good midfielder for Barcelona, ​​so I think Barcelona were lucky to sign him for a few seasons. Xavi may still need a few other good players who can balance his team, but I don't think he will be too pushy due to the team's not-so-good financial condition.

Xavi already has a good alternative to the former Manchester City captain. Ilkay Gundogan can act as a defensive midfielder although De Jong and Kessie can also play in that position. So Xavi has found what he was looking for after he lost Busquets, while in other positions I think Xavi also needs a good right-back instead of giving Araujo and Kounde a lot of chances.

@shogun47 I believe his arrival signals that De Jong is now available for sale because by doing this they can get solid revenues too and further invest in the squad. Also with this smart signing now I’m keen to see who else will they target because this transfer signals that they’re keen to target winning the champions league now and if they can add more quality player’s then they’ll definitely be a force to reckon in the champions league.
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June 22, 2023, 04:16:36 PM
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Great midfielder, the numbers and creativity on the pitch would speak for him, disciplined player, technically, smart and a modern player all of the top sides would want to join em if not for his age.
Money is not everything for every player, infact Barcelona deserves such a player and Gundogan also deserves representing Barcelona.

Xavi still needs a replacement for Sergio Busquet, he's not recruited a player for that position and also Gundogan won't be a great fit for that position if he was bought to replace Busquet. The name Joshua Kimmich have been mentioned severally, but the player have no plans and intentions to move to Barcelona.

Gundogan is a midfielder, he can play in place of Busquets. especially if we look at the available Barcelona players, but Xavi could have assigned him in another position, because he is a versatile player. he can be a playmaker, attacking or defensive midfielder. So the problem is, Barcelona needs mature players and Gundohan is the answer. don't be surprised, if he will partner with Do Jong as a pivot.

To be honest, I don't know what Xavi is planning in his project for next season. however, given the number of players who left. plus, which still survives. it is likely that he will fill the position left by the Barcelona captain. the question is, will Xavi change his tactical style and formation, most likely not. Barcelona will stick with its 4-3-3 formation. except, he studied what Pep implemented with his new system.
Speaking of Joshua Kimmich, if I'm not mistaken, the rumors are that Kimmich has blatantly refused that he will not leave for Barcelona. if they already have Gundohan, what else do they need. after all, there are second-tier players who are pretty good. but even then, if they don't include it in the sales list.

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June 22, 2023, 04:40:10 PM
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What's most interesting to wait for next season is Real Sociedad, Real Sociedad Return to the UEFA Champions League After 1 decade of waiting, can they make a new surprise next season? Real Sociedad last appeared in the 2013-2014 UCL season when they were reinforced by Claudio Bravo, Inigo Martinez, Antoine Griezmann and Carlos Vela, hopefully Real Sociedad can go further in the 2023-2024 UCL season.
Real Sociedad's success this season cannot be separated from Asian players, namely Kubo, who performed brilliantly last season so he could bring Real Sociedad to the top four in Laliga. It will be interesting if we want to see Kubo's journey from childhood until now.

Since childhood, Kubo's potential has really been seen. At that time in Barcelona he was in the most prominent youth team but unfortunately he didn't get the chance because of the local appendage of Catalan pride who had to get the chance. Unfortunately, when he moved to Madrid, he chose the wrong club, like leaving a tiger's cage and entering a lion's cage. In Madrid, the potential was out, but unfortunately, Ral Madrid is not that easy to believe that quality players from Asia end up playing more in the youth team. Kubo's decision to leave Real Madrid paid off. He is now an important player at Real Sociedad.

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June 22, 2023, 05:06:29 PM
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@shogun47 I believe his arrival signals that De Jong is now available for sale because by doing this they can get solid revenues too and further invest in the squad. Also with this smart signing now I’m keen to see who else will they target because this transfer signals that they’re keen to target winning the champions league now and if they can add more quality player’s then they’ll definitely be a force to reckon in the champions league.

Not likely, De Jong will still be staying at Barcelona even though they recently got the green light to sign Ilkay Gundogan. De Jong is an important player for Xavi, and if Xavi wants to sell a player then I think it's Ansu Fati or Ferran Torres he will sell. I can't say for sure what Barcelona's plans are, but I think some players might be considered for sale so that Barcelona can adjust their finances.

About Frenkie de Jong, I hope he can be kept at Barcelona. He is a good midfielder so far and Xavi may have realized that a long time ago. If Barcelona is forced to sell him, then maybe it is a consequence that they can no longer avoid.

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June 22, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
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@shogun47 I believe his arrival signals that De Jong is now available for sale because by doing this they can get solid revenues too and further invest in the squad. Also with this smart signing now I’m keen to see who else will they target because this transfer signals that they’re keen to target winning the champions league now and if they can add more quality player’s then they’ll definitely be a force to reckon in the champions league.

Not likely, De Jong will still be staying at Barcelona even though they recently got the green light to sign Ilkay Gundogan. De Jong is an important player for Xavi, and if Xavi wants to sell a player then I think it's Ansu Fati or Ferran Torres he will sell. I can't say for sure what Barcelona's plans are, but I think some players might be considered for sale so that Barcelona can adjust their finances.

About Frenkie de Jong, I hope he can be kept at Barcelona. He is a good midfielder so far and Xavi may have realized that a long time ago. If Barcelona is forced to sell him, then maybe it is a consequence that they can no longer avoid.
The arrival of Gundogan will of course take its toll, the financial situation is the reason for Barcelona to sell off several players who are considered to have contributed less to the team. But I agree that Frankie De Jong can be maintained even though the midfield has added new energy. Ansu Fati, Torres, Rapinha, Kessie and Garcia might be Xavi's considerations in letting them go and I think these players deserve to leave Camp Nou. But it could be that due to financial conditions, the Blaugrana management will make decisions that are beyond predictions, but I hope they don't make hasty decisions.



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June 22, 2023, 05:36:04 PM
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What's most interesting to wait for next season is Real Sociedad, Real Sociedad Return to the UEFA Champions League After 1 decade of waiting, can they make a new surprise next season? Real Sociedad last appeared in the 2013-2014 UCL season when they were reinforced by Claudio Bravo, Inigo Martinez, Antoine Griezmann and Carlos Vela, hopefully Real Sociedad can go further in the 2023-2024 UCL season.

At that time Real Sociedad also had no wins at all and in fact, Real Sociedad could only have 1 point. Meanwhile, at that time Real Sociedad could be considered to be in a relatively easy group, because Real Sociedad were in Group A along with Manchester United, Bayer Leverkusen and Shakhtar Donetsk. With a record like that, I personally am not so sure that Real Sociedad will be able to go further in the Champions League next season. Because after all, it looks like Real Sociedad was also just lucky because Sevilla only finished in 12th position, which made Real Sociedad have the luck to finish in 4th position.

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June 22, 2023, 06:01:33 PM
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It has been confirmed that Ilkay Gündogan will go to Barcelona with a two-year contract and the possibility of an extension in the future, Barcelona seems to be very aggressive in bringing in this player because his free agent status will not make Barca spend transfer funds.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345
With an initial two year contract and the possibility of an extension, I think he will end his career at this club very well, he has the ability to contribute and adapt quickly to new club, so seeing him directly in the starting XI at the start of the season will be possible.
Ilkay Gündogan is making a lot of sacrifice just to be at Barcelona. It is my sincere wish that it is worth it and that he won't regret the huge money he gave up to at Saudi Arabia just to be Barca. Another expectation which I have for him is that he remains in form. I also wish to see Xavi do a beautiful work with him in managing this huge insanely talented footballer. Guardiola has given positive feedback about this player - he's ability to play multiple positions and he looks to me as the perfect team player. At the end of his time at Barca. i would love to hear Xavi say the same thing too about him.
I think not going to Saudi Arabia is normal for some players, not everyone will want that, not everyone wants to be in some nations. Like some do not prefer France, some do not want to go to Spain, some do not want Italy, and of course by the same logic some do not want to be in SA as well, it could be political or not, the reason doesn't matter, not everyone will want to go to a single nation, some will decide not to.

Plus Barcelona is a historically great team, we all know it and we all grew up watching how great they were as well, so when an offer is made from them, you do listen to them. We knew Barcelona wouldn't be remotely close to getting Haaland, financially impossible, but Haaland still went and listened to them because you don't directly say no to Barcelona.

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June 22, 2023, 06:08:33 PM
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I think not going to Saudi Arabia is normal for some players, not everyone will want that, not everyone wants to be in some nations. Like some do not prefer France, some do not want to go to Spain, some do not want Italy, and of course by the same logic some do not want to be in SA as well, it could be political or not, the reason doesn't matter, not everyone will want to go to a single nation, some will decide not to.

Plus Barcelona is a historically great team, we all know it and we all grew up watching how great they were as well, so when an offer is made from them, you do listen to them. We knew Barcelona wouldn't be remotely close to getting Haaland, financially impossible, but Haaland still went and listened to them because you don't directly say no to Barcelona.

Ilkay Gundogan's decision to join Barcelona can be considered a wise decision because he still hopes to appear in Europe with a big team. Barcelona is a good team in the history of football, so joining Barcelona must be something good in a few seasons before approaching retirement.

Ilkay Gundogan can be expected to be able to provide a balance for Barcelona's midfield players next season. Barcelona no longer have senior players in midfield after Busquets stopped renewing his contract, so Ilkay's arrival at Barcelona is one to look forward as the best alternative for the balance of the game.

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June 22, 2023, 06:19:04 PM
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Xavi worked quite efficiently and quickly because the certainty of Busquets leaving was final for his decision and of course with Gundogan in their squad it was clear this would have a positive impact.
Gundogan's leadership spirit and calmness need not be questioned even though it is impossible for him to immediately become captain but still with him and the experience he has it is clear that this is very good for Barcelona....
Xavi has a long history with Barcelona and he is also very familiar with the characteristics of his game throughout the game. so when he comes back and tries to fix Barcelona from the bottom he knows quite a lot about what's going on in Barcelona, ​​what needs to be done and also various evaluations for that. we'll see how Barcelona after Ada Xavi they were able to get up and have started to approach Barcelona's very good style of play and won La Liga last season. and this is not easy because we all know that Barcelona competed like that for a few early days so they lacked a lot of points.
Actually saying whether he is capable or not in these 2 seasons has been the answer on how he can make Barcelona improve and improve himself has been Xavi's answer even though he did have a few failures such as in the Champions League.
Now it's just a matter of how he changes himself for the better because there is still some work he has to do to make Barcelona better this season, especially with conditions where they have to try to be more consistent in a better competition, in this case the Champions League, because if they fail again then this will reap a lot of criticism that is after the previous 2 seasons they failed.

For La Liga positions everything will still be the same with the same rivals as Madrid and Atletico and indeed that will not change because the competition in La Liga for the championship position only revolves around these 3 clubs it seems.

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