La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Leviathan.007]

Ilkay Gundogan's decision to join Barcelona can be considered a wise decision because he still hopes to appear in Europe with a big team. Barcelona is a good team in the history of football, so joining Barcelona must be something good in a few seasons before approaching retirement.

Ilkay Gundogan can be expected to be able to provide a balance for Barcelona's midfield players next season. Barcelona no longer have senior players in midfield after Busquets stopped renewing his contract, so Ilkay's arrival at Barcelona is one to look forward as the best alternative for the balance of the game.

Gundogan is going to join Barcelona but still, but nothing is clear and there is still a chance for Gundogan to join another team even if he signs the contract with Barcelona.
Because if Barcelona fails to register the contract of this player because of the financial issues he can join another team.

https://barcauniversal.com/barcelona-mainstay-helped-convince-gundogan-to-sign-for-the-club-report/
https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-ilkay-gundogan-secret-clause-barcelona-contract-amid-uncertainty-la-liga-registration-reports

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[shogun47]

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So far they seem to have found a smart way to increase the quality for their team. When they sign some who have an expired contract they can save a lot of money in that way and consolidate their finances. It is not yet known how many players more they are trying to bring to Barcelona, but they will need a few if they want to attack again. But they do need to improve their overall approach since they are in desperate need for a surplus.

The idea is probably the same, as long as they are sure the player fits Barcelona's needs then I think Xavi would recommend the player to sign. Ilkay Gundogan is a good midfielder for Barcelona, ​​so I think Barcelona were lucky to sign him for a few seasons. Xavi may still need a few other good players who can balance his team, but I don't think he will be too pushy due to the team's not-so-good financial condition.

Xavi already has a good alternative to the former Manchester City captain. Ilkay Gundogan can act as a defensive midfielder although De Jong and Kessie can also play in that position. So Xavi has found what he was looking for after he lost Busquets, while in other positions I think Xavi also needs a good right-back instead of giving Araujo and Kounde a lot of chances.

@shogun47 I believe his arrival signals that De Jong is now available for sale because by doing this they can get solid revenues too and further invest in the squad. Also with this smart signing now I’m keen to see who else will they target because this transfer signals that they’re keen to target winning the champions league now and if they can add more quality player’s then they’ll definitely be a force to reckon in the champions league.

You should check De Jongs salary He is one of the best paid soccer players in Europe. But at the same time they need to keep some of their team together. Getting Gundogan and letting De Jong go is an option to lower their salaries a bit as I am sure Gudogan won't earn quite as much, but yes they should still be interesting in signing more high quality players and if possible more contract free players like Gundogan, but it is hard to get them as the competition in the market for them is the highest.

[Iranus]

contrary to this, it is unlikely that sevilla can afford any major signings with the clubs financial standing and yes, getting champions league football does not change that position. it is left to see if sevilla are able to get quality loan signings, else they would struggle with relegation like the just concluded season

It's difficult to fight in the Champions League when a team doesn't have high-quality players, but in the season that just finished Sevilla were still able to stay in the middle area of the final standings and it's not that close to relegation. But for next season Sevilla will have to fight even harder because they are already in a tougher competition apart from La Liga, because the Champions League is a league for the best teams from several domestic leagues.

However, Sevilla has managed to qualify for the Champions League. But I think this team will aim for Europa League in the next season as well. As we have seen this season, from the start of the season the team's only goal was to perform well in the Europa League. While Sevilla's performance in La Liga has been erratic, the team has played very well in every Europa League match. Moreover, Sevilla does not have a strong squad to consistently perform well in the Champions League. If they try their hardest, they might be able to qualify for the round of 16 or the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Perhaps they will consider winning the Europa League title more prestigious than that.

When I read this I am asking where you get that idea from? As if any team would say that they want to neglect the league and the Copa del Rey and only play well in the Europa League as if it was their only goal. Do you believe that?
This time they are qualified for the Champions League and you say that they are aiming for the Europa League. Could you explain how you made up the idea that they will not play well in the Champions League in order to then get relegated to the Europa League and then play well there? I can't get it. I believe that they will try their best in all competitions they will be playing because why would they not.

My thoughts do not agree with your thoughts. But I think that will be the case. Because I saw Sevilla's performance in the Champions League last season. Out of 6 matches, they won only 1 match. They have also drawn away matches and won home matches against teams like Copenhagen. They lost both matches against Manchester City by big margins. They were beaten 4-1 at home against Dortmund. Despite poor performances in every match in the Champions League, this team has shown great dominance in almost every match in the Europa League. They also played well against teams like Juventus and United. And that's why I think Sevilla's main priority is the Europa League.

[Leviathan.007]

Pepe Reina extended his contract with Villarreal for another season while he is a 40y old player and if he really stays in Villarreal for the next season he can be one of the oldest players in La Liga.
Maybe Villarreal had to start seeking a young goalkeeper instead of extending his contract at this age.

[lizarder]

If we are taking about other teams chances to dethrone Real , Barca or ATM from top 3 , that should be Valencia at some point. They have been trying for a couple years right now to rebuild from ground , mix experienced players with younger talents in order to grow confidence and develop their skills but never had a real chance during the season to put all this in their favor and all went wrong for them with almost being relegated into LaLiga2.  

It is difficult to break the dominance of Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid in La Liga, a few seasons ago Sevilla became a candidate who was almost able to break the dominance of the three clubs. But at the end of the season also failed to dominate La Liga, vice versa with Valencia who has rebuilt confidence through the experiences of the players and the talents of the young players they have, but what we are worried about remains the same and they will not be able to dominate the top three.

And I can also bet for next season Valencia will be thrown in the top five down at the end of the season, it is also the same as what I saw in Sevilla before. Realizing or not, the Club's finances are very influential and when they don't have much money to buy quality players, it will be difficult for them to dominate the top three.

[Falconer]

Pepe Reina extended his contract with Villarreal for another season while he is a 40y old player and if he really stays in Villarreal for the next season he can be one of the oldest players in La Liga.
Maybe Villarreal had to start seeking a young goalkeeper instead of extending his contract at this age.

Apart from Pepe Reina, so far Villareal has one other relatively young goalkeeper, Filip Jörgensen. But maybe you are right, Villareal should get another goalkeeper with good quality instead of relying only on Filip Jörgensen who has only recently joined the first team since last January.

Reina is still considered important for Villarreal due to his good form, but at 40 years of age his aggressiveness may have decreased. Villarreal needs to look at another goalkeeper, but maybe not in this summer's transfer window.

[Distraction]

Some people think that Gundogan is quite old so he can't make an impressive level of contribution to Barcelona. But I think the opposite here on this topic. Because if you watched even his last matches at Manchester City you must have seen how beneficial he was. For example he literally won the FA Cup title for his team by a big individual effort in the finale.

He was even the captain there and Guardiola didn't have any problem with his performance either. Maybe the board didn't want to have him anymore by some reason anyway I don't know. But now he is at another top team and I'm pretty sure he will do his best for Barcelona also.

While Busquets is leaving I think this is a sensible transfer to fill his place also. But I think he would play more like a central midfielder or attacking midfielder.

[Minecache]

Xavi worked quite efficiently and quickly because the certainty of Busquets leaving was final for his decision and of course with Gundogan in their squad it was clear this would have a positive impact.
Gundogan's leadership spirit and calmness need not be questioned even though it is impossible for him to immediately become captain but still with him and the experience he has it is clear that this is very good for Barcelona....

Xavi has a long history with Barcelona and he is also very familiar with the characteristics of his game throughout the game. so when he comes back and tries to fix Barcelona from the bottom he knows quite a lot about what's going on in Barcelona, ​​what needs to be done and also various evaluations for that. we'll see how Barcelona after Ada Xavi they were able to get up and have started to approach Barcelona's very good style of play and won La Liga last season. and this is not easy because we all know that Barcelona competed like that for a few early days so they lacked a lot of points.

Actually saying whether he is capable or not in these 2 seasons has been the answer on how he can make Barcelona improve and improve himself has been Xavi's answer even though he did have a few failures such as in the Champions League.
Now it's just a matter of how he changes himself for the better because there is still some work he has to do to make Barcelona better this season, especially with conditions where they have to try to be more consistent in a better competition, in this case the Champions League, because if they fail again then this will reap a lot of criticism that is after the previous 2 seasons they failed.

For La Liga positions everything will still be the same with the same rivals as Madrid and Atletico and indeed that will not change because the competition in La Liga for the championship position only revolves around these 3 clubs it seems.

A lot of people are actually getting impatient with Xavi. But I believe he is actually going to bring good results for Barcelona even in the future and he will also be able to perform well with Barcelona in the Champions League if he is given the time and money. We all know that he’s not going to get a good amount of money because Barcelona cannot afford it right now. But with time I think he will be able to bring in better results. At least far better compared to what the previous coaches of Barcelona were able to bring.

I mean he has already proved that he is better by improving Barcelona and also becoming the La Liga champions. I am guessing that the next target is going to be the Champions League title. But I don’t know how realistic that target is going to be.

[Alpha Marine]

Gundogan is going to join Barcelona but still, but nothing is clear and there is still a chance for Gundogan to join another team even if he signs the contract with Barcelona.
Because if Barcelona fails to register the contract of this player because of the financial issues he can join another team.

Do you really believe Barca will sign a player and not be able to register him? I see all these news update all the time and it's funny at this point. Last summer some sports newspapers like The Athletic really believe Barca will go bankrupt. How can people be that naive?
Barca registered all the players they got last despite all that the media reported, and now they have started reporting this summer again. They didn't sign Messi partly because they would not have been able to register him.
Barcelona will register all their players, every other thing they are doing is just a precaution.

[baeva]

Xavi worked quite efficiently and quickly because the certainty of Busquets leaving was final for his decision and of course with Gundogan in their squad it was clear this would have a positive impact.
Gundogan's leadership spirit and calmness need not be questioned even though it is impossible for him to immediately become captain but still with him and the experience he has it is clear that this is very good for Barcelona....

Xavi has a long history with Barcelona and he is also very familiar with the characteristics of his game throughout the game. so when he comes back and tries to fix Barcelona from the bottom he knows quite a lot about what's going on in Barcelona, ​​what needs to be done and also various evaluations for that. we'll see how Barcelona after Ada Xavi they were able to get up and have started to approach Barcelona's very good style of play and won La Liga last season. and this is not easy because we all know that Barcelona competed like that for a few early days so they lacked a lot of points.

Actually saying whether he is capable or not in these 2 seasons has been the answer on how he can make Barcelona improve and improve himself has been Xavi's answer even though he did have a few failures such as in the Champions League.
Now it's just a matter of how he changes himself for the better because there is still some work he has to do to make Barcelona better this season, especially with conditions where they have to try to be more consistent in a better competition, in this case the Champions League, because if they fail again then this will reap a lot of criticism that is after the previous 2 seasons they failed.

For La Liga positions everything will still be the same with the same rivals as Madrid and Atletico and indeed that will not change because the competition in La Liga for the championship position only revolves around these 3 clubs it seems.

It even sounds sad that there are only three clubs competing on a permanent basis... I think in a season already completed Barcelona had the goal of taking the La Liga title, it's as if they weren't ready for something else. There is a sense that they are going step by step, raising the bar and regaining their former strength and glory. So, in the new season, it is certain that Barcelona will perform well in the Champions League

[Ryu_Ar1]

It has been confirmed that Ilkay Gündogan will go to Barcelona with a two-year contract and the possibility of an extension in the future, Barcelona seems to be very aggressive in bringing in this player because his free agent status will not make Barca spend transfer funds.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345
With an initial two year contract and the possibility of an extension, I think he will end his career at this club very well, he has the ability to contribute and adapt quickly to new club, so seeing him directly in the starting XI at the start of the season will be possible.

Ilkay Gündogan is making a lot of sacrifice just to be at Barcelona. It is my sincere wish that it is worth it and that he won't regret the huge money he gave up to at Saudi Arabia just to be Barca. Another expectation which I have for him is that he remains in form. I also wish to see Xavi do a beautiful work with him in managing this huge insanely talented footballer. Guardiola has given positive feedback about this player - he's ability to play multiple positions and he looks to me as the perfect team player. At the end of his time at Barca. i would love to hear Xavi say the same thing too about him.

I think not going to Saudi Arabia is normal for some players, not everyone will want that, not everyone wants to be in some nations. Like some do not prefer France, some do not want to go to Spain, some do not want Italy, and of course by the same logic some do not want to be in SA as well, it could be political or not, the reason doesn't matter, not everyone will want to go to a single nation, some will decide not to.

Plus Barcelona is a historically great team, we all know it and we all grew up watching how great they were as well, so when an offer is made from them, you do listen to them. We knew Barcelona wouldn't be remotely close to getting Haaland, financially impossible, but Haaland still went and listened to them because you don't directly say no to Barcelona.

He still wants an adventure for a big club like him rather than being in a league that is still in development and has a lot of interest because of the money involved.
Technically it's actually a pretty good decision for a player who still wants competition because with him, first choice is also slightly guaranteed for Gundogan when he's at Barcelona especially since Busquets is also out of contract and likely to leave.

It's also an advantage for Barcelona that they don't have the hassle of bringing in an expensive player on a free transfer and with the quality that we all know he's one of the better midfielders around at the moment despite his age.

[len01]

Pepe Reina extended his contract with Villarreal for another season while he is a 40y old player and if he really stays in Villarreal for the next season he can be one of the oldest players in La Liga.
Maybe Villarreal had to start seeking a young goalkeeper instead of extending his contract at this age.

there is a slight possibility that Villarreal keeps Pepe Reina because the performance of this goalkeeper is a little good even though he conceded several times but I still believe that at the age of 40 he can still keep the goal to defend Villarreal.
on the one hand maybe after this season Villarreal will soon replace Pepe Reina with a new player who is easier and has better talent.

[youdacapt]

Pepe Reina extended his contract with Villarreal for another season while he is a 40y old player and if he really stays in Villarreal for the next season he can be one of the oldest players in La Liga.
Maybe Villarreal had to start seeking a young goalkeeper instead of extending his contract at this age.

I think the dude just loves playing football and doesn't want to stop yet haha. and with a comfortable environment for him in Villarreal he has decided to continue playing for yet another season. I wonder though, why he has not opted to play in USA, SAUDI ARABIA OR China. One last pay uno haha

[JeromeTash]

Some people think that Gundogan is quite old so he can't make an impressive level of contribution to Barcelona. But I think the opposite here on this topic. Because if you watched even his last matches at Manchester City you must have seen how beneficial he was. For example he literally won the FA Cup title for his team by a big individual effort in the finale.

I think he can do so well in La Liga even at his age if he settles in well. We have 37-year-old Luka Modrić and 33-year-old Toni Kroos doing wonders in La Liga, So why not Gundogan? The Bigger issue is if he can blend in the Barcelona team as soon as possible

[lalabotax]

Ilkay Gundogan's decision to join Barcelona can be considered a wise decision because he still hopes to appear in Europe with a big team. Barcelona is a good team in the history of football, so joining Barcelona must be something good in a few seasons before approaching retirement.

Yes, I thought so too. It is undeniable that the older a soccer player gets, the dimmer his career opportunities will be. And right now, if he does move to Barcelona, that's a very good thing too. Barcelona is a big club in La Liga and he is in the championship team this season, and of course he can still join the UCL again. With his current abilities, with Barcelona, it is hoped that they will have each other or provide benefits for both parties. Barcelona is getting stronger because of Gundogan's ability and quality, and conversely Gundogan has also got a big club with a relatively high fee.

[Ayers]

Gundogan is going to join Barcelona but still, but nothing is clear and there is still a chance for Gundogan to join another team even if he signs the contract with Barcelona.
Because if Barcelona fails to register the contract of this player because of the financial issues he can join another team.

Do you really believe Barca will sign a player and not be able to register him? I see all these news update all the time and it's funny at this point. Last summer some sports newspapers like The Athletic really believe Barca will go bankrupt. How can people be that naive?
Barca registered all the players they got last despite all that the media reported, and now they have started reporting this summer again. They didn't sign Messi partly because they would not have been able to register him.
Barcelona will register all their players, every other thing they are doing is just a precaution.

So you are saying that Barcelona does not have as much of a problem as we think in terms of finance? I don’t think we can say that just because of what the weather is getting Gundogan as a free transfer. Yes, the salary amount is going to be there but it is at the end of the day a free transfer.

But anyway, I am positive that Barcelona is going to be able to get him on the team without too many problems. Unless of course, the player decides that he’s going to go to some other Saudi club where he is going to get paid a lot of money. And let’s be honest, the Saudi league can actually pay him a lot more money compared to what Barcelona can give him right now.

[Frankolala]

And let’s be honest, the Saudi league can actually pay him a lot more money compared to what Barcelona can give him right now.

Gundogan is a great player and deserves more from Barcelona. I think that these Saudi business tycoons have chosen to pump in huge funds into football investment and also they have bought some world classic players very expensive and this has made other superstars to think about an offer from the Saudis.

Barcelona are some how broke and the management is trying to make sure that they spend their funds wisely. This is why I wouldn't blame them on any decision taken by them. I hope that they can keep him or better still give him a new deal instead of letting him go because his contributions matters a lot in their team

[snipie]

Some people think that Gundogan is quite old so he can't make an impressive level of contribution to Barcelona. But I think the opposite here on this topic. Because if you watched even his last matches at Manchester City you must have seen how beneficial he was. For example he literally won the FA Cup title for his team by a big individual effort in the finale.

I think he can do so well in La Liga even at his age if he settles in well. We have 37-year-old Luka Modrić and 33-year-old Toni Kroos doing wonders in La Liga, So why not Gundogan? The Bigger issue is if he can blend in the Barcelona team as soon as possible

Gundogan made a contract with Barcelona for two years + one optional year, where he insisted if Barcelona fails to include him with the team because of their fair-play issue, then he could move out of the team by August 12, 2023, yet Barcelona accepted this clause. If that mean one thing is how important is the player for Barcelona. Gundogan helped a lot Manchester City to win titles and I believe he still can play good football in Barcelona.

[Google+]

Ilkay Gundogan's decision to join Barcelona can be considered a wise decision because he still hopes to appear in Europe with a big team. Barcelona is a good team in the history of football, so joining Barcelona must be something good in a few seasons before approaching retirement.

Ilkay Gundogan can be expected to be able to provide a balance for Barcelona's midfield players next season. Barcelona no longer have senior players in midfield after Busquets stopped renewing his contract, so Ilkay's arrival at Barcelona is one to look forward as the best alternative for the balance of the game.

Joining ilkay Gundogan to Barcelona was predicted beforehand because he had good communication with Xavi and the decision he made was of course the best decision for his career. I think Xavi has got a really special player because since Xavi failure to bring Messi back to Barcelona this season it seems the fans are starting to get frustrated with Xavi's next move but after managing to get Ilkay Gundogan it seems Barcelona fans are quite happy with the improvements Xavi has made in the transfer window. Well Gundogan will be Xavi regular for next season and he would be a perfect replacement for Sergio Busquets because Gundogan own quite the perfect character for the position. So, in this case, I see a pretty good progress for Barcelona in the hands of Xavi because he was able to choose quality players to bring in to improve their strength for next season. We will see a pretty perfect Barcelona midfield next season because De Jong, Gundogan and Pedri are allegedly going to be ideal partners for Barcelona next season. So, will Barcelona quality next season be in doubt, of course not, because they are almost perfect with a squad of star players for next season, either in Laliga or the Champions League.

[Velvet78]

This time we will be seeing a new team being added among the ones which are joining the Champions League. Real Sociedad are also going there together with the usual four teams in the La Liga. As Sevilla had a really poor season in the La Liga they focused on the Europa League and won the title. In the meantime Real Sociedad benefited from the chance to get the last spot in top 4.

Villarreal were also in this fight for a while but after starting a bad form they started to fall behind Real Sociedad. I really think Real Sociedad deserved this. Because they have been really impressive during the season. For some time they were even ahead of Atletico Madrid by a quite big point gap. 

I think when you consider Sevilla getting Europa as well, they will have 5 teams this time around. They will have the usual top 4 places, but then also Sevilla as well, so they will have 5 teams going there. I think not all starts at group stages, fourth doesn't right? In any case, they will be there in name until the group stages as well so a total of 5 teams is for sure.

I think it's quite important to realize that when you are handling a league that is getting this much success, you should think you are doing something right. I know that it will not be simple to compare Premier league and La Liga against each other, but I gotta say it's sometimes obvious to me that La Liga overall is better, even if City might be better than all else.

Technically La Liga teams seem more impressive to me in the Champions League. Real Madrid by themselves are already carrying the La Liga as they have won the most amount of Champions League titles. They are far ahead of any other team there. Barcelona also had really bright times there and Atletico Madrid were much better than now in the past.

English teams have newly started to get more titles in the Champions League in the recent seasons. But they will need to work harder than that to get ahead of Spanish teams' successes.