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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
Total Voters: 120

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June 26, 2023, 05:26:39 PM
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Barcelona made the right transfer move. İlkay Gündoğan will be very successful there. They needed to reinforce the midfield. İlkay Gündoğan is a true maestro who both scores and assists. He will fit perfectly into the FC Barcelona system. It's necessary to make such additions to the champion roster.
Barcelona benefited greatly from their success in signing Gundogan from Manchester City for free. He is a talented player who can play in several positions, his right foot and left foot are equally strong which allows him to play in both left midfield and right midfield positions. He is also able to play well in the defensive midfield position, when the coach needs him to play in that position, he is able to play his role well.

After officially introducing Gundogan as a new player, Barcelona immediately fenced off the player with a high release clause. Reporting from Fabrizio Romano report on his Twitter account, Barcelona installed Gundogan release clause of 400 million Euro. He will be an important player for Barcelona because his experience and talent can help strengthen the Barcelona midfield area and he is also very diligent in scoring goals and assists.


As luck would have it, Barcelona can get Gundogan for free and put up a high price because it is to improve their finances or if not, Barcelona really don't want to lose Gundogan from their club.
I think next season Barcelona will not be as strong as last season even though there are still some other reliable players but the dominance of the club is definitely weakening every season and needs new players to strengthen it but Barcelona can't achieve that and one way is just to charge a high price for Gundogan.
This is actually a blessing for Barcelona because if we look at Gundogan's transfer, there is no need to spend money there, of course this is a blessing in itself.
On the other hand, they also immediately gave more space to their finances by spending Busquets, which indirectly reduced their salary expenses, especially considering Busquets' condition is one of the players with the biggest salaries for them. This is clearly an extraordinary advantage for Barcelona because apart from reducing their salary burden a little, on the other hand they also immediately got a replacement which is actually quite good because Gundogan is still one of the players with above average individual skills.

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June 26, 2023, 05:36:31 PM
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Anything can still be said before the next season starts, because when Barcelona got Robert Lewandowski it was the same, where there were some people who said that Barcelona would be a big success in all competitions. But in reality Barcelona was only able to succeed in La Liga because Real Madrid was not consistent in winning more matches and even in the Copa Del Rey Barcelona were also not successful last season.

Likewise for IIkay Gundogan, who is still unsure whether he will be better at Barcelona or not, because he came from the Premier League to La Liga who might still need a little bit of adaptation in his new team. And one more thing, I think you also don't need to explain at length about the sport of football which is very entertaining and popular in this world because almost everyone who is in a topic like this must already know about this very popular sport and it is very possible that all of them there is this topic is a football fan although not for the same team.
I think considering how Barcelona used to be, what they had recently this season was a success. Barcelona last had a title in 18-19 season, and for 3 seasons in a row they didn't win the league, last time they had 3 seasons in a row not winning the title was 20+ years ago, so this was a terrible thing for them.

Plus they spent insane amount of money on a few key players that turned out to be trash, so they are in huge debt right now and everyone thought that there wouldn't be a way to solve this neither, they may have become even worse and go for more years without a title. So when they sold some business stuff, get Lewandowski, and a few other key players, and played well enough to win the title, that was actually a great thing for them.
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June 26, 2023, 05:51:51 PM
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Barcelona made the right transfer move. İlkay Gündoğan will be very successful there. They needed to reinforce the midfield. İlkay Gündoğan is a true maestro who both scores and assists. He will fit perfectly into the FC Barcelona system. It's necessary to make such additions to the champion roster.
Barcelona benefited greatly from their success in signing Gundogan from Manchester City for free. He is a talented player who can play in several positions, his right foot and left foot are equally strong which allows him to play in both left midfield and right midfield positions. He is also able to play well in the defensive midfield position, when the coach needs him to play in that position, he is able to play his role well.
After officially introducing Gundogan as a new player, Barcelona immediately fenced off the player with a high release clause. Reporting from Fabrizio Romano report on his Twitter account, Barcelona installed Gundogan release clause of 400 million Euro. He will be an important player for Barcelona because his experience and talent can help strengthen the Barcelona midfield area and he is also very diligent in scoring goals and assists.
As luck would have it, Barcelona can get Gundogan for free and put up a high price because it is to improve their finances or if not, Barcelona really don't want to lose Gundogan from their club.
I think next season Barcelona will not be as strong as last season even though there are still some other reliable players but the dominance of the club is definitely weakening every season and needs new players to strengthen it but Barcelona can't achieve that and one way is just to charge a high price for Gundogan.
This is actually a blessing for Barcelona because if we look at Gundogan's transfer, there is no need to spend money there, of course this is a blessing in itself.
On the other hand, they also immediately gave more space to their finances by spending Busquets, which indirectly reduced their salary expenses, especially considering Busquets' condition is one of the players with the biggest salaries for them. This is clearly an extraordinary advantage for Barcelona because apart from reducing their salary burden a little, on the other hand they also immediately got a replacement which is actually quite good because Gundogan is still one of the players with above average individual skills.

Barcelona is still struggling financially. And if Gundogan had to be bought by Barcelona, then maybe the Barcelona management would not be very interested in taking Gundogan into the team. However, although Barcelona are still weak financially, they will do their best to strengthen their squad. Because next season, Barcelona will not only play for the La Liga title, but the team will also want to do well in the Champions League. And so despite the financial crisis, Barcelona will be adding a number of talented players to their squad this season.

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June 26, 2023, 05:55:37 PM
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Gündoğan joined Barcelona and he is going to play for this team in the next season but the fact about Gündoğan is he came to Barcelona to fill the Bosquets's place in this team I don't think if Gündoğan can ever change his playing style and perform like Bosquets for Barcelona.
Also, the first problem for Gündoğan is he usually used the number 8 on his shirt and asked for this number while Pedri is using this number and they ask Gündoğan to choose another number.

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June 26, 2023, 05:55:41 PM
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Barcelona made the right transfer move. İlkay Gündoğan will be very successful there. They needed to reinforce the midfield. İlkay Gündoğan is a true maestro who both scores and assists. He will fit perfectly into the FC Barcelona system. It's necessary to make such additions to the champion roster.
Barcelona benefited greatly from their success in signing Gundogan from Manchester City for free. He is a talented player who can play in several positions, his right foot and left foot are equally strong which allows him to play in both left midfield and right midfield positions. He is also able to play well in the defensive midfield position, when the coach needs him to play in that position, he is able to play his role well.

After officially introducing Gundogan as a new player, Barcelona immediately fenced off the player with a high release clause. Reporting from Fabrizio Romano report on his Twitter account, Barcelona installed Gundogan release clause of 400 million Euro. He will be an important player for Barcelona because his experience and talent can help strengthen the Barcelona midfield area and he is also very diligent in scoring goals and assists.


As luck would have it, Barcelona can get Gundogan for free and put up a high price because it is to improve their finances or if not, Barcelona really don't want to lose Gundogan from their club.
I think next season Barcelona will not be as strong as last season even though there are still some other reliable players but the dominance of the club is definitely weakening every season and needs new players to strengthen it but Barcelona can't achieve that and one way is just to charge a high price for Gundogan.
Yes, that includes the luck that Barcelona got when they were able to get Gundogan for free, and indeed in recent seasons Barcelona have often hunted for players they can bring in for free. At the same time, Gundogan also had no objections to joining Barcelona so their process went very smoothly and without any significant obstacles.
with a financial situation that is still difficult, indeed Barcelona must do something like this, they are looking for players whose contracts have ended from their previous club, but of course these players also have good abilities and have the potential to make a big contribution to them.

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June 26, 2023, 06:10:31 PM
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Despite being an exceptional player, Gundogan didn't have much playing moments in Manchester City and that was because of the other options which are quite young, stronger and skillful as Gundogan himself. No coach will choose an aging but skillful sportman over a young, skillful and productive one. With the above factors, u don't expect Gundogan to reject Barcelona's offer. I will say both Barcelona and Gundogan are lucky for these contracts cuz the favour goes in the two sides. I pray the Spanish league isn't unfriendly to aging Gundogan

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June 26, 2023, 06:15:02 PM
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It doesn't seem like we will see a big transfer move by Barcelona this summer. Because La Liga FFP rules wouldn't let them do it that easy. Otherwise we would have already seen Messi back in Barcelona. They even speculated Neymar to sign for them but this doesn't also make sense in this situation. Neymar's demands would be as big as Messi's at least.

Do Barcelona need such a big move for consistency in the La Liga? I'm not sure. It feels like they can surely maintain their consistence about being competitive for the league title now. It is all about saving the same mental for next season also. But when it comes to the Champions League I can't fully trust them about doing better than reaching the group stage for now. They will need to earn people's trust by solid improvements.

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June 26, 2023, 06:26:27 PM
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Anything can still be said before the next season starts, because when Barcelona got Robert Lewandowski it was the same, where there were some people who said that Barcelona would be a big success in all competitions. But in reality Barcelona was only able to succeed in La Liga because Real Madrid was not consistent in winning more matches and even in the Copa Del Rey Barcelona were also not successful last season.
Likewise for IIkay Gundogan, who is still unsure whether he will be better at Barcelona or not, because he came from the Premier League to La Liga who might still need a little bit of adaptation in his new team. And one more thing, I think you also don't need to explain at length about the sport of football which is very entertaining and popular in this world because almost everyone who is in a topic like this must already know about this very popular sport and it is very possible that all of them there is this topic is a football fan although not for the same team.
I think considering how Barcelona used to be, what they had recently this season was a success. Barcelona last had a title in 18-19 season, and for 3 seasons in a row they didn't win the league, last time they had 3 seasons in a row not winning the title was 20+ years ago, so this was a terrible thing for them.

Plus they spent insane amount of money on a few key players that turned out to be trash, so they are in huge debt right now and everyone thought that there wouldn't be a way to solve this neither, they may have become even worse and go for more years without a title. So when they sold some business stuff, get Lewandowski, and a few other key players, and played well enough to win the title, that was actually a great thing for them.

I know that Barcelona is going to go for the Champions League title next season. I know it is not going to be easy. But I believe Barcelona will surely aim for that. Barcelona has already proved that they are good enough to win the La Liga title. Even in this financial situation.

So I think they are capable of doing better. I don’t know if they will be able to bring in players that are going to cost some actual money. Just like they did with Robert Lewandowski and some others. But I think they need to make a few changes if they actually want to realistically win the Champions League title. With this squad, it is going to be really hard to achieve that.

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June 26, 2023, 06:44:41 PM
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Despite being an exceptional player, Gundogan didn't have much playing moments in Manchester City and that was because of the other options which are quite young, stronger and skillful as Gundogan himself.
Ilkay Gundogan became an important pillar under Pep Guardiola at Manchester City and his contribution was also big when they won three titles in one season. Even though he is no longer young, his playing ability is still quite good and he is also one of the assist providers in Pep Guardiola's team.

No coach will choose an aging but skillful sportman over a young, skillful and productive one. With the above factors, u don't expect Gundogan to reject Barcelona's offer. I will say both Barcelona and Gundogan are lucky for these contracts cuz the favour goes in the two sides. I pray the Spanish league isn't unfriendly to aging Gundogan
Getting a player on a free transfer who has both ability and experience is a huge advantage for Barcelona and indeed the midfield position needs to be improved by Xavi, his arrival at Camp Nou would create an ideal midfield collaboration for next season. Adaptability is not a big problem for İlkay Gündogan because Xavi's coaching style is not much different from Pep Guardiola, so it will not be difficult for him to adapt to the team.

For the next two seasons İlkay Gündogan is still the right option for Xavi and I also want to see how in the next season he can help the team develop even more and his experience can also help other young mates in the team.

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Getting a player on a free transfer who has both ability and experience is a huge advantage for Barcelona and indeed the midfield position needs to be improved by Xavi, his arrival at Camp Nou would create an ideal midfield collaboration for next season. Adaptability is not a big problem for İlkay Gündogan because Xavi's coaching style is not much different from Pep Guardiola, so it will not be difficult for him to adapt to the team.

For the next two seasons İlkay Gündogan is still the right option for Xavi and I also want to see how in the next season he can help the team develop even more and his experience can also help other young mates in the team.
Ilkay Gundogan is the perfect signing for Barcelona. He is a player who has good experience as a midfield general, which is exactly what Barcelona needed after Busquets moved to Inter Miami. It may be true that Ilkay Gundogan is no substitute for Busquets, but he has good midfield control.

If possible, I hope Barcelona can also bring in other players this season to strengthen their defense. The right-back has changed a lot and they have to have good players there, not Araujo or Kounde. Xavi is aware of his team's current weaknesses, but with Barcelona short on cash it's clear he will have to adjust things accordingly. Barcelona's strategy in player transfers can be said to be good, but sometimes some old players are more easily injured so they can't always be relied on.

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June 26, 2023, 08:20:38 PM
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It doesn't seem like we will see a big transfer move by Barcelona this summer. Because La Liga FFP rules wouldn't let them do it that easy. Otherwise we would have already seen Messi back in Barcelona. They even speculated Neymar to sign for them but this doesn't also make sense in this situation. Neymar's demands would be as big as Messi's at least.

Do Barcelona need such a big move for consistency in the La Liga? I'm not sure. It feels like they can surely maintain their consistence about being competitive for the league title now. It is all about saving the same mental for next season also. But when it comes to the Champions League I can't fully trust them about doing better than reaching the group stage for now. They will need to earn people's trust by solid improvements.

I think Barcelona is not going to make any big changes to the squad. Also, I believe that the speculations that they were looking into acquiring Neymar after they failed to obtain Lionel Messi are just rumors at the moment. Barcelona is actually going to be very happy if they are able to get a few free players on the team.

They should keep in mind about the salaries of the players and their financial situation. They cannot afford to bring in players who are going to take high salaries. I genuinely believe that Barcelona is not going to make any huge transfers this season because they simply cannot afford to do it.


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June 26, 2023, 08:42:04 PM
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Just as I expected Lewandowski also got an offer by Saudi Arabian teams. But thankfully he didn't accept the offer according to news. I wasn't expecting him to leave Europe this early after joining Barcelona truthfully. I will be expecting to see him play for at least one more season and then he might start thinking of his exit from the team for a new adventure.

Meanwhile Barcelona had better work harder to be better in the Champions League while they have Lewandowski. It isn't easy to find a special striker like him these days but they haven't been able to do much in the Champions League group stage so far. I hope to see some improvement next season and hopefully Lewandowski can lead the team to a bigger success. I know he wasn't impressive against big teams there in the previous season but I expect him to return much stronger thanks to his experience as well.
Though migrating to a Saudi Arabian unit might have been a fiscal boon, one cannot dismiss Europe's top-tier leagues' impact on Lewandowski's ascent. Their matchless zeal, competitive spirit, and overall atmosphere are second to none. The temptation of new journeys and challenges may enthrall, yet an additional season in Europe, particularly with Barcelona, could be strategic for Lewandowski. The club's rich heritage and its devotion to appealing football sync ideally with his modus operandi. On Barcelona's CL woes, we must note that victory at such a level requires a united team initiative. Lewandowski, despite his noteworthy talent, can't single-handedly uplift the team. Barca must strengthen other zones and orchestrate a strategy that utilizes Lewandowski's capabilities.

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June 26, 2023, 08:51:54 PM
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Ilkay Gundogan is the perfect signing for Barcelona. He is a player who has good experience as a midfield general, which is exactly what Barcelona needed after Busquets moved to Inter Miami. It may be true that Ilkay Gundogan is no substitute for Busquets, but he has good midfield control.

If possible, I hope Barcelona can also bring in other players this season to strengthen their defense. The right-back has changed a lot and they have to have good players there, not Araujo or Kounde. Xavi is aware of his team's current weaknesses, but with Barcelona short on cash it's clear he will have to adjust things accordingly. Barcelona's strategy in player transfers can be said to be good, but sometimes some old players are more easily injured so they can't always be relied on.
signing of gundogan is the best because we know that Gundogan is quite a quality player which he was very successful with Manchester city. Xavi is of course quite happy with their success in signing Gundogan because he is one of the most influential players in a team.

As we can see, Barcelona squad depth is almost perfect after they managed to get Gundogan. Xavi continues to be active in signing players in this transfer window. One of their targets is Brozovic, who has been heavily linked with Barcelona lately.

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June 26, 2023, 09:29:57 PM
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I know that Barcelona is going to go for the Champions League title next season. I know it is not going to be easy. But I believe Barcelona will surely aim for that. Barcelona has already proved that they are good enough to win the La Liga title. Even in this financial situation.

So I think they are capable of doing better. I don’t know if they will be able to bring in players that are going to cost some actual money. Just like they did with Robert Lewandowski and some others. But I think they need to make a few changes if they actually want to realistically win the Champions League title. With this squad, it is going to be really hard to achieve that.

If, Barcelona players do not experience problems such as injuries and other problems. at least, with the players available for now. plus, Gundohan. at least, they can compete in the Champions League. although, to be honest this team still needs additional ammunition. also, Xavi has to be more creative in developing his squad especially their young players.
Xavi too, had to study their failures in the Champions League competition. I'm sure Barcelona will be quite competitive next season in both La Liga and the Champions League.

Now the problem is whether Barcelona will still bring in other players with the problems they are facing.
also, Xavi has a lot to learn at least from the way Pep is experimenting and how to position his players. important for Xavi as a coach, and not only rely on the quality of his players. but the tactics he uses, systems and strategies also need to be improved.
IMO, Barcelona has a pretty solid defense. now, there is Gundohan and De Jong in midfield. these two players can be a pivot that complements each other. Pedri, can also complement each other to help the front line. Gavi, can play on the wing, Lewandowski still plays as a forward, Dembele still plays in the RW position. I think this squad is quite competitive with a 4-3-3 formation.

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June 26, 2023, 09:40:07 PM
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Barcelona to go for the Champions League title? I don't think so for now. Because they still have a long way to go before doing that. They have been really unsuccessful there for two years and I wouldn't expect them to fight seriously for the title all of a sudden. For this to happen Xavi just needs to try different things in his strategies in the first place. But I'm pretty confident that he wouldn't change his system in any tournament. But still this season ended well for them in the La Liga.

Maybe winning this title after a 3-year break can motivate them to play better in the Champions League as well. Their main target should be to qualify from their group in the CL.

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June 26, 2023, 09:49:10 PM
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Barcelona to go for the Champions League title? I don't think so for now. Because they still have a long way to go before doing that. They have been really unsuccessful there for two years and I wouldn't expect them to fight seriously for the title all of a sudden. For this to happen Xavi just needs to try different things in his strategies in the first place. But I'm pretty confident that he wouldn't change his system in any tournament. But still this season ended well for them in the La Liga.

Maybe winning this title after a 3-year break can motivate them to play better in the Champions League as well. Their main target should be to qualify from their group in the CL.

100%. Even if Barcelona reaches the 1/4 finals, I will consider it a sensation and a big victory. Firstly, it is still unknown what lineup Barcelona will play next year, it looks like there will be more losses than acquisitions, but in any case, Barcelona will not have a radical increase. Secondly, it's Xavi and his strategy. He has no flexibility and any opponent understands how to play against Barcelona - if in La Liga they were lucky last year, then in European competition there will always be someone who will beat such an inflexible coach, and I'm talking about medium clubs now, the tops will dominate regardless of coaching decisions.

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June 26, 2023, 10:55:15 PM
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Mbappe could be released if he plays for PSG for another season and PSG will not ask for this free leave. They're working hard for him, but if Mbappe doesn't see a big increase in his salary, PSG's effort will be wasted and they will lose Mbappe after one season.

I don't think Real Madrid will pay such a high transfer fee. Of course, if a very high offer comes from Saudi Arabia, they miss Mbappe. I think Real Madrid should make a serious decision about Mbappe this season or they will miss it.

I believe the current situation is now dependent on both clubs. The one who makes the best offer will get him now, or the one who makes a greater offer at the conclusion of his contract will be able to keep him later. The pressure on Real Madrid to own Mbappe has intensified significantly, but the player is focused on not disappointing his current club while also researching what would be in his favor when he departs the club.

Mbappe won the World Cup and other European trophies in Ligue 1, and his champions league dream may come true if he eventually leaves PSG. They couldn't advance far in the Champions League with him when he had Messi and Neymar to assist, now that they’re not all together, I’m not sure if it’s still achievable with the current squad, hence a need for him to decide where will favour him to win the champions league trophy.

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June 26, 2023, 11:05:59 PM
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Barcelona to go for the Champions League title? I don't think so for now. Because they still have a long way to go before doing that. They have been really unsuccessful there for two years and I wouldn't expect them to fight seriously for the title all of a sudden. For this to happen Xavi just needs to try different things in his strategies in the first place. But I'm pretty confident that he wouldn't change his system in any tournament. But still this season ended well for them in the La Liga.

Maybe winning this title after a 3-year break can motivate them to play better in the Champions League as well. Their main target should be to qualify from their group in the CL.
Indeed, we can imagine when Barcelona was eliminated by Inter Milan and Bayern Munich in the group phase where Barcelona had to give up early in the Champions League last season. I believe Xavi can restore Barcelona glory in the Champions League, but that may take time and management's hard work in bringing many star players into the depths of their squad.

It looks like the champions league next season will be even tighter and it will be tough for Xavi to take Barcelona to far in the champions league. Yes, it looks like their first target is to qualify from the group phase and enter the quarter-finals, which will be extraordinary. But so far the big hope is the ucl trophy even though it's impossible but there are always surprises that happen.

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June 26, 2023, 11:21:00 PM
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Indeed, we can imagine when Barcelona was eliminated by Inter Milan and Bayern Munich in the group phase where Barcelona had to give up early in the Champions League last season. I believe Xavi can restore Barcelona glory in the Champions League, but that may take time and management's hard work in bringing many star players into the depths of their squad.

It looks like the champions league next season will be even tighter and it will be tough for Xavi to take Barcelona to far in the champions league. Yes, it looks like their first target is to qualify from the group phase and enter the quarter-finals, which will be extraordinary. But so far the big hope is the ucl trophy even though it's impossible but there are always surprises that happen.
Champions League is always important and interesting to watch. The games there aren't easy obviously and next year will not be an easy challenge as usual.
Barcelona's performance under Xavi improved but they still need to prove how powerful the club is among the present one.
The only problem with managing Barcelona is how hard to get a cohesive team

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June 26, 2023, 11:22:25 PM
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If Mbappe leaves PSG this summer he has a condition in his contract. As far as I know PSG will have to pay an amount like 150-200 million euros due to this condition. Therefore even if he leaves now PSG can't make a big profit in this transfer. They are in a really problematic situation as a result. But let's say PSG sold him for over 200 million euros then it is still better than letting him go for free.


Yeah, when I saw these, I also thought the same thing: PSG did not suppose to let Mbappe go free, and I believe letting him go for free is not a good idea at all, but if they should sell him out for the amounts you have stated seriously, it will be better than letting the guy go for free. However, I also think with the kind of money they have been paying him in the clubs, they did not suppose to let him go free because they would experience a big loss, so I guess PSG should sell him rather than allow him to leave for free.


I wonder whether Real Madrid are interested in paying that much money and sign him already.


Although Mbappe is a good player that every team would like to have in my opinion, I believe Real Madrid will get him to prepare more for the upcoming season. I believe this because Real Madrid currently needs more good and well-experienced players.

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