La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Bobrox]

I think Gundogan can really adapt to Barcelona's system in a short time. Because there are significant level of similarities between Xavi and Guardiola's systems. They both like to play a ball possession focused football so I don't feel like Gundogan would have difficulties in keeping up with the tempo. Tiki-taka system will be the one he will need to adapt to maybe but I don't still expect him to have serious issues considering his skillset. Xavi wouldn't have wanted him in the first place if he thought he might have issues there.

It is good to have some experienced players in the squad for Barcelona but they just need to keep the number of them not too high. It wouldn't be ideal for Xavi's system.

Actually easy for Gundogan adapt with scheme in Barcelona because not drastically difference yet game rhythm with Manchester City and how relationship between Xavi Hernandez and Pep Guardiola. In Manchester City, Gundogan doesn't need time for adapting with Pep Guardiola scheme because Bundesliga game rhythm almost the same with Barcelona show with tiki taka and dominance with ball controlling.

Right now, Xavi Hernandez has many option with midfielder position and not matter after leaving by Sergio Busquets because Gundogan will be right choose for replacing on holding midfielder. But difficult or not for Gundogan get first place or main player in Barcelona because on holding midfielder has compete with Pedri, Franck Kessié and Frenkie De Joong.

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[Strongkored]

I think it was a very good transfer for Barcelona without a transfer fee. Ilkay was a player who won the UCL with Manchester City and was the team captain. I couldn't understand why Pep didn't want him in their plans. The contract could have been renewed but not renewed. Evaluating this, Barça made a great transfer. There are many options in the midfield now.

On the one hand, Barcelona also really wanted to take advantage of this moment by getting this extraordinary transfer because Barcelona also wanted to prove that they were still strong enough in the coming season. Apart from that, Manchester City won't be hurting too much by letting go of some of their old players at this point, as perhaps Pep himself has more different plans for next season by bringing in some new players. Although in essence Pep is trying to make the team stronger than before for next season.

City is quite well-known as a club that doesn't have many old players, usually they will let go unlike other clubs who will retain their old players more if they are judged to be able to make a big contribution, such as Real Madrid which still retains Modric and Benzema even though this striker finally went to arab league. Barcelona released some of their old players because of course they wanted to refresh especially İlkay Gündoğan was a few years younger than some of the Barca players who left and while at his old club he was still in top form so this will be profitable for Barca next season.

[rendravolt]

I think it's a decision that Manchester City took and it was definitely considered very well even though it probably didn't make any money for them in this transfer. Pep Guardiola himself is not a coach who will let go of his players if he still needs the player or the player is still in the game scheme they will apply.
Obviously this benefits Barcelona, and it's exactly what you said they took advantage of this moment well to bring Gundogan to become one of the names that will be listed in their squad for the 2023/2024 season.

Indeed, for some Manchester City players, they must be happy with the club's policies and coaches who are not too restrained when their players leave, but it is also quite unfortunate when these players are the key to all the titles that Manchester City won last season and that is how valuable Gundogan is.

Maybe for Barcelona it was like being hit by an unexpected fortune when they were chosen to be the club that managed to secure Gundogan's services for next season and his experience will certainly make other young players' enthusiasm pumped up to be able to win the La Liga title again. But barcelona's target will not only be la liga, they have to prove that the champions league is a trophy that they have to get back after all this time, yes even though I doubt it a little.

[kro55]

I think it was a very good transfer for Barcelona without a transfer fee. Ilkay was a player who won the UCL with Manchester City and was the team captain. I couldn't understand why Pep didn't want him in their plans. The contract could have been renewed but not renewed. Evaluating this, Barça made a great transfer. There are many options in the midfield now.

On the one hand, Barcelona also really wanted to take advantage of this moment by getting this extraordinary transfer because Barcelona also wanted to prove that they were still strong enough in the coming season. Apart from that, Manchester City won't be hurting too much by letting go of some of their old players at this point, as perhaps Pep himself has more different plans for next season by bringing in some new players. Although in essence Pep is trying to make the team stronger than before for next season.

City is quite well-known as a club that doesn't have many old players, usually they will let go unlike other clubs who will retain their old players more if they are judged to be able to make a big contribution, such as Real Madrid which still retains Modric and Benzema even though this striker finally went to arab league. Barcelona released some of their old players because of course they wanted to refresh especially İlkay Gündoğan was a few years younger than some of the Barca players who left and while at his old club he was still in top form so this will be profitable for Barca next season.

İlkay Gündoğa is a very talented player. Also, he is very experienced. And he is in very good form at the moment. İlkay Gündoğa's performances were steady in his last season with City. The important thing is that İlkay Gündoğa's fitness is very good. He doesn't get injured much. I think İlkay Gündoğa is perfect for Xavi's squad. Barcelona's midfield now needs experienced players. Barcelona's defense is very strong. However, Barcelona has more experienced players in midfield and forward. Xavi will need to add another experienced striker to the squad, even with İlkay Gündoğa. Relying on Lewandowski's performance alone will not be able to maintain consistency in La Liga and the Champions League.

[Die_empty]

I think it's a decision that Manchester City took and it was definitely considered very well even though it probably didn't make any money for them in this transfer. Pep Guardiola himself is not a coach who will let go of his players if he still needs the player or the player is still in the game scheme they will apply.
Obviously this benefits Barcelona, and it's exactly what you said they took advantage of this moment well to bring Gundogan to become one of the names that will be listed in their squad for the 2023/2024 season.

Manchester City didn't want Gundogan to remain in the club. If they had wanted him to remain in the club his contract would have been renewed before now. The club intentionally waited for his contract to end so that he could leave. The 32 years old German midfielder was not treated well by City. He would have been offered at least a one-year contract because of his contribution to the success of the club. And he is still strong with a lot of experience.

Barcelona took the advantage and gave him a two-year deal with the option of another year if he puts up a good performance. Barca would have to rely on free transfer signing because of their financial limitations. They clinched the league last season using free transfer players like Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessie maybe it might also work this season. Barca was desperate to sign Messi but it didn't turn out as they intended. Gundogan might not be good as Messi but he is a worthy option.

[JeffBrad12]

I think it was a very good transfer for Barcelona without a transfer fee. Ilkay was a player who won the UCL with Manchester City and was the team captain. I couldn't understand why Pep didn't want him in their plans. The contract could have been renewed but not renewed. Evaluating this, Barça made a great transfer. There are many options in the midfield now.

Pep has been telling manchester city to extend gundogan's contract, but he rejected it. The thing that wanted by gundogan to leave from manchester to get a new challenge. Gundogan had an immense opportunity to extend his contract with Manchester City, if he was willing to stay on, but he opted to transfer to Barcelona. There are so many clubs wanted him to join in their clubs like arsenal.

Gundogan has his own personal reason to reject a new offer from manchester city and go to the barcelona. It seems like that getting treble winners were enough for him to be a reason to leave from manchester city.
So many people are now feeling skeptical about his moves as so many predictions if he will not fit to the barcelona's strategy.

It's very interesting to see how he will be playing in the pre match.

[hyudien]

Manchester City didn't want Gundogan to remain in the club. If they had wanted him to remain in the club his contract would have been renewed before now. The club intentionally waited for his contract to end so that he could leave. The 32 years old German midfielder was not treated well by City. He would have been offered at least a one-year contract because of his contribution to the success of the club. And he is still strong with a lot of experience.

Give me some evidence to make us all believe that Gundogan is not being treated well by Manchester City. Because so far anyone can see it clearly, it's not a problem that Manchester City doesn't want to extend his contract, but Gundogan has achieved what he wanted to achieve with Man City and has managed to lead the club to win 3 trophies at once. Moreover, Gundogan is the captain at Man City, in other words, his contribution is quite large. Did not find any information regarding the statement that Gundogan was not treated well.

[giammangiato]

İlkay Gündoğa is a very talented player. Also, he is very experienced. And he is in very good form at the moment. İlkay Gündoğa's performances were steady in his last season with City. The important thing is that İlkay Gündoğa's fitness is very good. He doesn't get injured much. I think İlkay Gündoğa is perfect for Xavi's squad. Barcelona's midfield now needs experienced players. Barcelona's defense is very strong. However, Barcelona has more experienced players in midfield and forward. Xavi will need to add another experienced striker to the squad, even with İlkay Gündoğa. Relying on Lewandowski's performance alone will not be able to maintain consistency in La Liga and the Champions League.

I've also heard about this player absent-mindedly, but he seems to me the classic player who is very physically strong but with very little technical aptitude, or am I wrong?
a kind of Gattuso
watch out, these players are useful in my opinion

[Leviathan.007]

Apart from looking for new players to strengthen their squad, the 2023 summer transfer market will also be used by Real Madrid to find a new coach. The harmonious relationship that exists between Real Madrid and Ancelotti will end soon after the coach has agreed to coach the Brazilian national team, the 2023-2024 season will be the last season for Ancelotti to coach Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is busy looking for a new coach who can replace Ancelotti, Perez as president of Real Madrid already has three names to be appointed as the new coach of Real Madrid. Zidane, Mourinho and Xabi Alonso are candidates to succeed Ancelotti.

The three names chosen by Perez are highly qualified to replace Ancelotti, Zidane and Mourinho are great coaches and have won various titles. Meanwhile, Xavi Alonso played a great role in boosting Leverkusen performance in the 2022-2023 season. Coincidentally, Alonso contract with Bayer Leverkusen also expires at the end of the 2023-2024 season, so Real Madrid can bring in Alonso for free.

That's very sad for Real Madrid to lose a coach like Carlo Ancelotti when he can even have a better performance in the next season when they even hire better players Mbappe is another player who is very close to this team but it seems they are losing their coach and some other coaches are linked to this team. Zidane is also linked to PSG but we know we had great performance when he was working at Real Madrid and I think he can be a good option for Perez while Xabi Alonso improved Leverkusen but he also had an unstable performance there.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yep, Barcelona failed in UCL & Europa League. So, I believe Xavi will do something to build more Barcelona squad. One of the ways is to sign new players who can support the current players to be stronger. Barcelona seems to target winning UCL trophy next season. They must target a more prestigious trophy after they won La Liga trophy this season.

It is not grandiose to do but with conditions like that they must move quickly to vacate several players so that their cash is more stable, especially the demands of FFP are clear there that they must try to vacate around more than 170 million to be able to make their salary conditions safe and when in this case they want players who are certainly in the UCL then inevitably they have to vacate more than that because we must realize the vakue of the player will be much bigger for now especially in terms of salaries.
The risk now is only how Barcelona can get more fresh funds in order to patch up their current condition because if they only continue to add players without seeing their condition too it is the same as suicide.

The Barcelona thing is something very difficult to decipher , firstly because there are many Options so that they Cannot use the money to buy other Players , because who can they buy ? They have Relatively young players, they have a Majestic player like Lewa , only he can Give them victory, but I don't really know what Xavi is looking for, because his style is not against normal fútbol but he should win the competitions or the Less reaching the final, for example, Sevilla won the Europa League and they didn't get there in the Europa League, so things get out of control because I don't know how to think to find Logic , it's like a challenge.

Apart from looking for new players to strengthen their squad, the 2023 summer transfer market will also be used by Real Madrid to find a new coach. The harmonious relationship that exists between Real Madrid and Ancelotti will end soon after the coach has agreed to coach the Brazilian national team, the 2023-2024 season will be the last season for Ancelotti to coach Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is busy looking for a new coach who can replace Ancelotti, Perez as president of Real Madrid already has three names to be appointed as the new coach of Real Madrid. Zidane, Mourinho and Xabi Alonso are candidates to succeed Ancelotti.

The three names chosen by Perez are highly qualified to replace Ancelotti, Zidane and Mourinho are great coaches and have won various titles. Meanwhile, Xavi Alonso played a great role in boosting Leverkusen performance in the 2022-2023 season. Coincidentally, Alonso contract with Bayer Leverkusen also expires at the end of the 2023-2024 season, so Real Madrid can bring in Alonso for free.

That's very sad for Real Madrid to lose a coach like Carlo Ancelotti when he can even have a better performance in the next season when they even hire better players Mbappe is another player who is very close to this team but it seems they are losing their coach and some other coaches are linked to this team. Zidane is also linked to PSG but we know we had great performance when he was working at Real Madrid and I think he can be a good option for Perez while Xabi Alonso improved Leverkusen but he also had an unstable performance there.

Well for me personally I think that things like Madrid have done have been good, it seems to me that Ancelotti's change also seems very good to me, also with the strategy that he came out against City I did not like his vision of the game and I think that was the reason they lost, it's a pity that they did things that way and Madrid sees this, they know they have very good players and with respect to Mbappé I don't think he will go to Madrid, he already said that Not once, and Madrid doesn't give second chances, that's why I see the signing of a Mabppé with Madrid as far away.

[Raflesia]

Actually saying whether he is capable or not in these 2 seasons has been the answer on how he can make Barcelona improve and improve himself has been Xavi's answer even though he did have a few failures such as in the Champions League.
Now it's just a matter of how he changes himself for the better because there is still some work he has to do to make Barcelona better this season, especially with conditions where they have to try to be more consistent in a better competition, in this case the Champions League, because if they fail again then this will reap a lot of criticism that is after the previous 2 seasons they failed.

For La Liga positions everything will still be the same with the same rivals as Madrid and Atletico and indeed that will not change because the competition in La Liga for the championship position only revolves around these 3 clubs it seems.

It even sounds sad that there are only three clubs competing on a permanent basis... I think in a season already completed Barcelona had the goal of taking the La Liga title, it's as if they weren't ready for something else. There is a sense that they are going step by step, raising the bar and regaining their former strength and glory. So, in the new season, it is certain that Barcelona will perform well in the Champions League

Regardless of whether it's sad or not, this is a fact where other clubs in La Liga find it difficult to make their condition stable both financially and in performance.
Sevilla is a new hope where previous seasons have always been troublesome but this season they are also very chaotic even though the Europa League trophy can be obtained.
On the other hand, other dark horse clubs such as Villarreal, Soiceadad and Betis were also unable to provide more breakthroughs so that only Madrid and Barcelona were the last choice to fight for the La Liga trophy.
But of course it is slightly better when compared to Ligue 1 and the Bundesliga.

Actually saying whether he is capable or not in these 2 seasons has been the answer on how he can make Barcelona improve and improve himself has been Xavi's answer even though he did have a few failures such as in the Champions League.
Now it's just a matter of how he changes himself for the better because there is still some work he has to do to make Barcelona better this season, especially with conditions where they have to try to be more consistent in a better competition, in this case the Champions League, because if they fail again then this will reap a lot of criticism that is after the previous 2 seasons they failed.

For La Liga positions everything will still be the same with the same rivals as Madrid and Atletico and indeed that will not change because the competition in La Liga for the championship position only revolves around these 3 clubs it seems.

A lot of people are actually getting impatient with Xavi. But I believe he is actually going to bring good results for Barcelona even in the future and he will also be able to perform well with Barcelona in the Champions League if he is given the time and money. We all know that he’s not going to get a good amount of money because Barcelona cannot afford it right now. But with time I think he will be able to bring in better results. At least far better compared to what the previous coaches of Barcelona were able to bring.

I mean he has already proved that he is better by improving Barcelona and also becoming the La Liga champions. I am guessing that the next target is going to be the Champions League title. But I don’t know how realistic that target is going to be.

Time is sure they can give but for honest money it's a bit hard
But even so, with the current conditions, they should be able to get a trophy in La Liga and with Xavi losing 2 times in the Champions League group phase, of course, it must make him hot because as you said, the disappointment of failing in the Champions League will obviously still continue to be felt even though the La trophy The league got there and Xavi has to try to fix that.

[Litzki1990]

Well for me personally I think that things like Madrid have done have been good, it seems to me that Ancelotti's change also seems very good to me, also with the strategy that he came out against City I did not like his vision of the game and I think that was the reason they lost, it's a pity that they did things that way and Madrid sees this, they know they have very good players and with respect to Mbappé I don't think he will go to Madrid, he already said that Not once, and Madrid doesn't give second chances, that's why I see the signing of a Mabppé with Madrid as far away.

Ancelotti was great as coach of Real Madrid. But any team can lose any match, if the team loses a big match, it is not the responsibility of the manager. As long as Ancelotti was at Real Madrid, I hope he tried his best to make the team better.  He may not be seen as Real Madrid's manager from next season but his lessons will be remembered by the Real Madrid players.

A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

[hahay]

İlkay Gündoğa is a very talented player. Also, he is very experienced. And he is in very good form at the moment. İlkay Gündoğa's performances were steady in his last season with City. The important thing is that İlkay Gündoğa's fitness is very good. He doesn't get injured much. I think İlkay Gündoğa is perfect for Xavi's squad. Barcelona's midfield now needs experienced players. Barcelona's defense is very strong. However, Barcelona has more experienced players in midfield and forward. Xavi will need to add another experienced striker to the squad, even with İlkay Gündoğa. Relying on Lewandowski's performance alone will not be able to maintain consistency in La Liga and the Champions League.

I've also heard about this player absent-mindedly, but he seems to me the classic player who is very physically strong but with very little technical aptitude, or am I wrong?
a kind of Gattuso
watch out, these players are useful in my opinion

The point is that Barcelona seems to be more interested in recruiting experienced players who are +30 years old, of course that is not a good plan for the long term. But yes, if Barcelona is only planning to improve the performance of the team for only a short time, then signing old players can be a fast option to increase their performance. But of course, when they recruit old players they should be prepared for the risk of injury, because old players are more likely to get injured compared to younger players.

[len01]

Give me some evidence to make us all believe that Gundogan is not being treated well by Manchester City. Because so far anyone can see it clearly, it's not a problem that Manchester City doesn't want to extend his contract, but Gundogan has achieved what he wanted to achieve with Man City and has managed to lead the club to win 3 trophies at once. Moreover, Gundogan is the captain at Man City, in other words, his contribution is quite large. Did not find any information regarding the statement that Gundogan was not treated well.

agree with what you said that Gundogan has been able to achieve what he dreamed of for a long time, namely getting a champion's league title. and I'm also not sure if Gundogan was not treated well by Man City.
we can see realistically that if Gundogan is not treated well by Man City it will be impossible for him to make a good contribution to Man City but in fact Gundogan can give his best with his best performance until he can win the treble title.

[Jody.Drummer]

I think it's a decision that Manchester City took and it was definitely considered very well even though it probably didn't make any money for them in this transfer. Pep Guardiola himself is not a coach who will let go of his players if he still needs the player or the player is still in the game scheme they will apply.
Obviously this benefits Barcelona, and it's exactly what you said they took advantage of this moment well to bring Gundogan to become one of the names that will be listed in their squad for the 2023/2024 season.

Indeed, for some Manchester City players, they must be happy with the club's policies and coaches who are not too restrained when their players leave, but it is also quite unfortunate when these players are the key to all the titles that Manchester City won last season and that is how valuable Gundogan is.

Maybe for Barcelona it was like being hit by an unexpected fortune when they were chosen to be the club that managed to secure Gundogan's services for next season and his experience will certainly make other young players' enthusiasm pumped up to be able to win the La Liga title again. But barcelona's target will not only be la liga, they have to prove that the champions league is a trophy that they have to get back after all this time, yes even though I doubt it a little.

When they don't keep their players away, it means that they have prepared replacements or, as I said before, they didn't include Gundogan as one of the players who will be listed in their line-up next season.
I agree with you also about the ease with which the player leaves, which means no drama to be shown. Makes sense too, I mean sometimes a club makes it difficult for a player to leave, but in the end they let him go anyway, the player must feel like he's been played for that.

[kro55]

İlkay Gündoğa is a very talented player. Also, he is very experienced. And he is in very good form at the moment. İlkay Gündoğa's performances were steady in his last season with City. The important thing is that İlkay Gündoğa's fitness is very good. He doesn't get injured much. I think İlkay Gündoğa is perfect for Xavi's squad. Barcelona's midfield now needs experienced players. Barcelona's defense is very strong. However, Barcelona has more experienced players in midfield and forward. Xavi will need to add another experienced striker to the squad, even with İlkay Gündoğa. Relying on Lewandowski's performance alone will not be able to maintain consistency in La Liga and the Champions League.

I've also heard about this player absent-mindedly, but he seems to me the classic player who is very physically strong but with very little technical aptitude, or am I wrong?
a kind of Gattuso
watch out, these players are useful in my opinion

İlkay Gündoğa is a very experienced player. And right now Barcelona needs experienced players. Barcelona's squad has plenty of talented and promising young players. And to make these players experienced, it is necessary to have experienced players in the squad. And I think Xavi is going according to plan. I expect Xavi to make the Barcelona team even stronger in the next 2/3 seasons. Champions League, La Liga, and Copa del Rey will be the dominant team in every tournament.

[Doell]

A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

This rumor is still hot, and it is certain that it will often be discussed because Real Madrid, if they have Mbappe will definitely be able to get many more titles in the coming seasons. As for Mbappe, he has a higher chance of getting many awards, one of which might be the Ballon d'or. But those are all rumors only, also Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG, although in the future there is a possibility because Mbappe contract at PSG has one year left.

[fzkto]

Well for me personally I think that things like Madrid have done have been good, it seems to me that Ancelotti's change also seems very good to me, also with the strategy that he came out against City I did not like his vision of the game and I think that was the reason they lost, it's a pity that they did things that way and Madrid sees this, they know they have very good players and with respect to Mbappé I don't think he will go to Madrid, he already said that Not once, and Madrid doesn't give second chances, that's why I see the signing of a Mabppé with Madrid as far away.

Ancelotti was great as coach of Real Madrid. But any team can lose any match, if the team loses a big match, it is not the responsibility of the manager. As long as Ancelotti was at Real Madrid, I hope he tried his best to make the team better.  He may not be seen as Real Madrid's manager from next season but his lessons will be remembered by the Real Madrid players.

A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

Mbappe is very young and already one of the best players in the world. If he has shown a desire to play for Real Madrid, it seems to me that Madrid should consider this deal. Especially since Benzema is a key player who will be leaving the club this summer.

[shogun47]

Well for me personally I think that things like Madrid have done have been good, it seems to me that Ancelotti's change also seems very good to me, also with the strategy that he came out against City I did not like his vision of the game and I think that was the reason they lost, it's a pity that they did things that way and Madrid sees this, they know they have very good players and with respect to Mbappé I don't think he will go to Madrid, he already said that Not once, and Madrid doesn't give second chances, that's why I see the signing of a Mabppé with Madrid as far away.

Ancelotti was great as coach of Real Madrid. But any team can lose any match, if the team loses a big match, it is not the responsibility of the manager. As long as Ancelotti was at Real Madrid, I hope he tried his best to make the team better.  He may not be seen as Real Madrid's manager from next season but his lessons will be remembered by the Real Madrid players.

A deal between Mbappe and Real Madrid is being discussed a lot but so far nothing can be said for sure whether Real Madrid will finally sign Mbappe. The summer transfer market won't be open for long so it's probably during this period that Real Madrid will decide on the next player they sign for their squad.

Ancelotti isn't to blame here I agree and as we are speaking of him, I wish him that Mbappe can be signed for the coming season. He has had an amazing career and he is a great manager, I would like to see him coach Mbappe and have success with him: I think this is his last season although I am not sure, but if it is I could very will live with him winning some trophies.

[snipie]

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This rumor is still hot, and it is certain that it will often be discussed because Real Madrid, if they have Mbappe will definitely be able to get many more titles in the coming seasons. As for Mbappe, he has a higher chance of getting many awards, one of which might be the Ballon d'or. But those are all rumors only, also Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG, although in the future there is a possibility because Mbappe contract at PSG has one year left.

Mbappe do want to join Real Madrid and the French president himself was involved to keep him with PSG along with Messi and Neymar in order to win Champions League. This year he has a contract with PSG which will try to impose a huge amount of money to sell him to Real Madrid but at the end they might sell him with half his real price so they cannot see him walk free next year.