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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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June 23, 2023, 08:54:05 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
Given that Barcelona's finances are not yet stable, bringing Gandong from Man City is the right choice even though he is already 32 years old, but I think he will adapt very easily to Barcelona because Gandong is the type of player that Xavi wants. In my opinion, he will be a very important player for Barcelona next season because he will play in a very vital, crucial position in Barcelona's midfield next season.

Barcelona After winning Laliga it is clear that there is an increase in targets so it is possible to add these new players to prepare for the Champions League which is tougher than the local Spanish competition.

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Given that Barcelona's finances are not yet stable, bringing Gandong from Man City is the right choice even though he is already 32 years old, but I think he will adapt very easily to Barcelona because Gandong is the type of player that Xavi wants. In my opinion, he will be a very important player for Barcelona next season because he will play in a very vital, crucial position in Barcelona's midfield next season.
Barcelona did not sign Gandong, but they did sign Ilkay Gundogan from Manchester City. I'm kidding, but can you fix the error?
Gundogan is a quality player that Barcelona are already considering signing after Busquets' contract expires. Gundogan is expected to provide Barcelona with the stability in midfield as he has done over the last few seasons with Manchester City, and I think he is a player who will still be useful for Barcelona.

Barcelona After winning Laliga it is clear that there is an increase in targets so it is possible to add these new players to prepare for the Champions League which is tougher than the local Spanish competition.
They realize where their weaknesses are, so bringing in Gundogan is one of the realizations to fill the hole in that position next season.

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June 23, 2023, 09:19:28 PM
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Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
Gundogan left for free, so it cannot be good for Manchester city because they did not get any money from the transfer, and Gundogan is still good enough to play very well for another 2 or 3 seasons, but it is not too bad for City, he has helped them to achieve so much and the club would not be too disappointed that he decided to go. It is a very good deal for Barca, they did not pay any money for Gundogan and they only have to cover his salary, he will help Barca very well for the next two years.

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June 23, 2023, 09:26:19 PM
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Gundogan left for free, so it cannot be good for Manchester city because they did not get any money from the transfer, and Gundogan is still good enough to play very well for another 2 or 3 seasons, but it is not too bad for City, he has helped them to achieve so much and the club would not be too disappointed that he decided to go. It is a very good deal for Barca, they did not pay any money for Gundogan and they only have to cover his salary, he will help Barca very well for the next two years.
Experience matters a lot and for a player like Gundogan, he takes a lot of that with him to Barcelona. Manchester City did not make a good effort for him to remain in  Manchester City else, if they had and offered a really good contract, maybe he would have considered playing one more year for Manchester City. Barcelona will face a lot challenge in the La Liga next season especially from Real Madrid that have already secured some top players in waiting for next season. Gundogan's experience will be a plus for Barcelona in midfield.

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June 23, 2023, 09:36:21 PM
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Experience matters a lot and for a player like Gundogan, he takes a lot of that with him to Barcelona. Manchester City did not make a good effort for him to remain in  Manchester City else, if they had and offered a really good contract, maybe he would have considered playing one more year for Manchester City.
It is possible that Gundogan does not want to stay at Manchester City much longer because he wants to play in La Liga with Barcelona. Manchester City are the better team financially so if Gundogan has no intention of leaving then his contract with Barcelona is highly unlikely. We also don't know what happened internally to the club, especially regarding the collaboration between Barcelona and Manchester City, but in recent seasons several Manchester City players have tended to join Barcelona.

Barcelona will face a lot challenge in the La Liga next season especially from Real Madrid that have already secured some top players in waiting for next season. Gundogan's experience will be a plus for Barcelona in midfield.
Of course, Barcelona will get tough competition from its rivals. Real Madrid should regret whatever happened last season, they even have to admit that Barcelona is better. The two titles that Xavi and his team won are proof, so Real Madrid will be pushing even more strength to compete next season.

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June 23, 2023, 09:38:03 PM
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They realize where their weaknesses are, so bringing in Gundogan is one of the realizations to fill the hole in that position next season.
Yes, at this time Gundogan is no longer young, but on the other hand, he is still quite good and contributive. At Man City itself, he is one of the key players. But even at that age, for Barcelona, Gundogan will certainly have a very positive effect. Especially with his ability as an all-round midfielder, at least, he might still be very helpful for up to 2 seasons later. So, this is also an advantage for Barcelona by getting Gundogan this season to strengthen his squad especially with a free transfer.

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June 23, 2023, 09:40:16 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.
Maybe he is also tired of being play at Manchester City, because he has been playing in the most competitive league for 7 years, at old age he must maintain a healthy body to maintain him career. It's also possible he has other title targets, as he also hasn't attempted La Liga so far. After all, İlkay Gündoğan has already made great achievements for Manchester City, so not bad if he has a good record in other leagues.
With the presence of İlkay in the Barcelona squad, it makes this club look even more unstoppable, although at the moment Real Madrid also have Bellingham, but I'm not too sure about Ancellotti squad. There is a possibility that Barcelona can get another La Liga title next season, although it is too early to say that.

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June 23, 2023, 09:50:29 PM
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The fact that Gundogan was the captain of City team that won the treble and he accepted lesser value contract from Barcelona shows that he wanted to be at Barcelona for a long time. I mean why wouldn't you say yes to more money with the team you captained to win the treble when the other offer is less money with a team that wasn't even out of group stages at UCL? It has to be some personal preference type of thing that will make it a bit harder. In the end he got what he wanted and I think that's what matters to players.

Barcelona could be a decent team by the end of the summer and may end up having a few more players that can improve the team significantly. That way they can be good in the league AND also in other competitions as well.

Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
IIkay Gundogan for a fact is at the age of 32 but he's got a lot in the tank when it comes to delivering great performances on the pitch. Until he left Manchester City, he was a regular in the club's starting line up in major competitions and that simply tells how good of a midfielder he is because you have to be at the top of ur game to feature for Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
I think he left Manchester City not because his services weren't longer needed but because he must have had the ambition to don the Barcelona jersey before he calls it a day in his illustrious career

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June 23, 2023, 09:52:49 PM
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Yes, at this time Gundogan is no longer young, but on the other hand, he is still quite good and contributive. At Man City itself, he is one of the key players. But even at that age, for Barcelona, Gundogan will certainly have a very positive effect. Especially with his ability as an all-round midfielder, at least, he might still be very helpful for up to 2 seasons later. So, this is also an advantage for Barcelona by getting Gundogan this season to strengthen his squad especially with a free transfer.
İlkay Gündoğan is 32 years old, surely he can play for 1-2 seasons more. A player still can perform with his best until 35 years old, so no problem with his current age. The problem is how he can adapt with Barcelona game style. But I'm very sure that it will be easy for him to adapt with Barcelona game style since Guardiola and Xavi tactics aren't so much different. I also believe that Gündoğan probably give positive impacts on Barcelona. We all know how good he played in Man City last season, he also will do the same in bBarcelona for the next season. I just hope he won't experience an injury problem.


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June 23, 2023, 10:00:37 PM
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Gundogan at 32, leaving Manchester City for Barcelona is MCFC Gain, why do i say this? Gundogan is old and past his prime; Barcelona get an ageing players; while MCFC gets a new opportunity to find a younger replacement for the brilliant Talisman. In the end, its a good deal for both sides
I don't think that's the right assessment because he is the team captain at Manchester City and his influence on his departure will of course be felt by the Manchester City team because at an old age of 32 years to be precise, Gundogan career and performance are even better than last season. He even got a great honor from the players of manchester city and city management to give him a new contract. But Gundogan instead chose to leave and refuse Manchester City offer, which of course the management of Manchester City really regretted.

However, all decisions are in Gundogan's hands and it is very likely that after recording many glorious achievements in the Manchester City team, Gundongan is more interested in seeking challenges at his new club and we hope that he can also achieve great success with Barcelona.

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June 23, 2023, 10:03:35 PM
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Gundogan left for free, so it cannot be good for Manchester city because they did not get any money from the transfer, and Gundogan is still good enough to play very well for another 2 or 3 seasons, but it is not too bad for City, he has helped them to achieve so much and the club would not be too disappointed that he decided to go. It is a very good deal for Barca, they did not pay any money for Gundogan and they only have to cover his salary, he will help Barca very well for the next two years.

I wonder if Gundogan will get a signing bonus, because as a free agent he can claim it because with the modern market where average players are bought for 80-100 million, getting such a player for free is a stroke of luck. He is not young, but we can say that he is near the peak and at this level he will play 2 more seasons for sure. I don't know what he was thinking when he chose Barcelona, but I would really like to know.

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June 23, 2023, 11:38:25 PM
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I think this deal will be for another time but not for this transfer window. The likely hoof of it happening is very slim, so Real Madrid have to face the reality and move on to sign another player. Mbappe wants to stay at PSG for at least one more season and PSG don’t want his contract to expire before renewing it. This is why Real Madrid is hopeful that they can sign him this season. Sooner or later before the transfer window closes, the fate of Mbappe and that of Real Madrid would have already been decided by then.
Well, it won't be long before full clarity is made. It seems that Florentino Perez held a meeting with the Emir of Qatar Tamim bin Hamad al Thani on June 21 and agreed on a transfer for 200 million plus a bonus of 50 million if Mbappe wins the Golden Ball. If this is all true, then this is already the highest level of negotiations after which the parties will not be able to back down, so as not to lose face. And the official date of the player's presentation already seems to be set for July 23.
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June 23, 2023, 11:47:15 PM
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İlkay Gündoğan is 32 years old, surely he can play for 1-2 seasons more. A player still can perform with his best until 35 years old, so no problem with his current age. The problem is how he can adapt with Barcelona game style. But I'm very sure that it will be easy for him to adapt with Barcelona game style since Guardiola and Xavi tactics aren't so much different. I also believe that Gündoğan probably give positive impacts on Barcelona. We all know how good he played in Man City last season, he also will do the same in bBarcelona for the next season. I just hope he won't experience an injury problem.

Yes, of course Gundogan can still play until the age of 35 and even more and judging by his character he is a pretty strong player and rarely gets injured. I think barcelona was lucky enough to get Gundogan on a free agent status after his contract ended with manchester city. With sufficient quality, I think Gundogan will be able to bring big changes to Barcelona next season.

For real madrid they haven't found the right replacement for their front line. Because I doubt that Joselu can make a big contribution like Benzema did last season. Will Real Madrid continue to approach Mbappe to strengthen their front line?

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June 24, 2023, 01:04:17 AM
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Yes, at this time Gundogan is no longer young, but on the other hand, he is still quite good and contributive. At Man City itself, he is one of the key players. But even at that age, for Barcelona, Gundogan will certainly have a very positive effect. Especially with his ability as an all-round midfielder, at least, he might still be very helpful for up to 2 seasons later. So, this is also an advantage for Barcelona by getting Gundogan this season to strengthen his squad especially with a free transfer.
İlkay Gündoğan is 32 years old, surely he can play for 1-2 seasons more. A player still can perform with his best until 35 years old, so no problem with his current age. The problem is how he can adapt with Barcelona game style. But I'm very sure that it will be easy for him to adapt with Barcelona game style since Guardiola and Xavi tactics aren't so much different. I also believe that Gündoğan probably give positive impacts on Barcelona. We all know how good he played in Man City last season, he also will do the same in bBarcelona for the next season. I just hope he won't experience an injury problem.



With the way he plays, and how he's technically smart and swift, he'll play and adapt speedily to the way Barcelona or Xavi Hernandez wants. Infact I see no difference from what they both play ( Manchester City and Barcelona ) it's just that Xavi Hernandez still not at the level of Pep Guardiola.

He'll adapt, and in big games against Real Madrid, he'll flourish just the way he did when they faced Real Madrid during the Semi finals.
Manchester City should miss him, but when a player leaves Pep Guardiola, it seems like the player misses Peps team! Good example Raheem Sterling, though, Gabriel Jesus and Cancelo all doing great.

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June 24, 2023, 01:42:11 AM
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Yes, at this time Gundogan is no longer young, but on the other hand, he is still quite good and contributive. At Man City itself, he is one of the key players. But even at that age, for Barcelona, Gundogan will certainly have a very positive effect. Especially with his ability as an all-round midfielder, at least, he might still be very helpful for up to 2 seasons later. So, this is also an advantage for Barcelona by getting Gundogan this season to strengthen his squad especially with a free transfer.
İlkay Gündoğan is 32 years old, surely he can play for 1-2 seasons more. A player still can perform with his best until 35 years old, so no problem with his current age. The problem is how he can adapt with Barcelona game style. But I'm very sure that it will be easy for him to adapt with Barcelona game style since Guardiola and Xavi tactics aren't so much different. I also believe that Gündoğan probably give positive impacts on Barcelona. We all know how good he played in Man City last season, he also will do the same in bBarcelona for the next season. I just hope he won't experience an injury problem.


Surely that is what Barcelona hopes for with the arrival of Gundogan for at least the next 2 seasons. It looks like Gundogan will continue to provide the same quality as at Manchester City because at the age he is now maturing as one of the best midfielders out there. If we compare with Modric, of course, the quality is almost the same, even Modric is much older than him, but he is still a mainstay for Real Madrid.

It is time for Gundogan to try new challenges outside of England and his choice to Spain will certainly be a fond memory before his retirement. We will also see Gundogan, who will reunite with one of his former Dortmund colleagues, Robert Lewandowski. Indeed, injury is the thing that most fears and if Gundogan is injured it will make Barcelona again dizzy with the options available, but we hope that Gundogan will not experience that and can give his best performance with Barcelona.

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June 24, 2023, 01:59:05 AM
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Surely that is what Barcelona hopes for with the arrival of Gundogan for at least the next 2 seasons. It looks like Gundogan will continue to provide the same quality as at Manchester City because at the age he is now maturing as one of the best midfielders out there. If we compare with Modric, of course, the quality is almost the same, even Modric is much older than him, but he is still a mainstay for Real Madrid.

It is time for Gundogan to try new challenges outside of England and his choice to Spain will certainly be a fond memory before his retirement. We will also see Gundogan, who will reunite with one of his former Dortmund colleagues, Robert Lewandowski. Indeed, injury is the thing that most fears and if Gundogan is injured it will make Barcelona again dizzy with the options available, but we hope that Gundogan will not experience that and can give his best performance with Barcelona.
Gundogan was what Xavi needed, and it was the right transfer for Barcelona. Xavi doesn't have many options in midfield, and we hope Gundogan can do well throughout the season. Xavi may get another chance in the winter transfer market. when Gundogan performs well, of course Xavi will still think about getting other players when the worst possibility is that several players in his squad will experience injury or card accumulation. Barca did well last season. and the new season later they will appear stronger.


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June 24, 2023, 02:36:50 AM
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Surely that is what Barcelona hopes for with the arrival of Gundogan for at least the next 2 seasons. It looks like Gundogan will continue to provide the same quality as at Manchester City because at the age he is now maturing as one of the best midfielders out there. If we compare with Modric, of course, the quality is almost the same, even Modric is much older than him, but he is still a mainstay for Real Madrid.

It is time for Gundogan to try new challenges outside of England and his choice to Spain will certainly be a fond memory before his retirement. We will also see Gundogan, who will reunite with one of his former Dortmund colleagues, Robert Lewandowski. Indeed, injury is the thing that most fears and if Gundogan is injured it will make Barcelona again dizzy with the options available, but we hope that Gundogan will not experience that and can give his best performance with Barcelona.
Gundogan was what Xavi needed, and it was the right transfer for Barcelona. Xavi doesn't have many options in midfield, and we hope Gundogan can do well throughout the season. Xavi may get another chance in the winter transfer market. when Gundogan performs well, of course Xavi will still think about getting other players when the worst possibility is that several players in his squad will experience injury or card accumulation. Barca did well last season. and the new season later they will appear stronger.
Barcelona's glory will still be seen in the next few seasons even without Messi Barcelona still looks good with solid players and stronger performances when Gundogan comes to join Barcelona in the new season. even though Barcelona's finances are very bad but this will not be a guarantee for Barcelona's performance which is significantly consistent with their performance.
it's just my hope that next season at least Barcelona can last longer in the champions league.

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June 24, 2023, 02:43:23 AM
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Surely that is what Barcelona hopes for with the arrival of Gundogan for at least the next 2 seasons. It looks like Gundogan will continue to provide the same quality as at Manchester City because at the age he is now maturing as one of the best midfielders out there. If we compare with Modric, of course, the quality is almost the same, even Modric is much older than him, but he is still a mainstay for Real Madrid.

It is time for Gundogan to try new challenges outside of England and his choice to Spain will certainly be a fond memory before his retirement. We will also see Gundogan, who will reunite with one of his former Dortmund colleagues, Robert Lewandowski. Indeed, injury is the thing that most fears and if Gundogan is injured it will make Barcelona again dizzy with the options available, but we hope that Gundogan will not experience that and can give his best performance with Barcelona.
Gundogan was what Xavi needed, and it was the right transfer for Barcelona. Xavi doesn't have many options in midfield, and we hope Gundogan can do well throughout the season. Xavi may get another chance in the winter transfer market. when Gundogan performs well, of course Xavi will still think about getting other players when the worst possibility is that several players in his squad will experience injury or card accumulation. Barca did well last season. and the new season later they will appear stronger.
Ilkay Gundogan was an important player for Manchester City when he won historic trebles for Manchester City and Barcelona. Having Ilkay Gundogan is the right choice, because the arrival of Ilkay Gundogan will fill the void in the Barcelona midfield after the departure of Sergio Busquets.
and reportedly Xavi is eyeing Real Valladolid right-back Ivan Fresneda in this summer's transfer window. The reason is, Xavi still hasn't found a right-back to fill his defense line, Xavi is not careless in choosing new players and also knows the shortcomings and needs of his team that can strengthen and also make a good contribution to Barcelona.

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June 24, 2023, 02:44:42 AM
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Barcelona's glory will still be seen in the next few seasons even without Messi Barcelona still looks good with solid players and stronger performances when Gundogan comes to join Barcelona in the new season. even though Barcelona's finances are very bad but this will not be a guarantee for Barcelona's performance which is significantly consistent with their performance.
it's just my hope that next season at least Barcelona can last longer in the champions league.
Your comment convinces me that Messi rightly decided to not return to Barcelona. He did not want to impact current players in Barcelona like unwanted cutting salary in order to save some budget for Messi salary. He did not want to be responsible for Barcelona results like his last seasons with them. They won, Messi was considered as their hero but when they lost, all responsibility belongs to Messi. What a damn treatment from Barcelona on Messi!

Gundogan is only one player and he can not change all things for them like Lewandowski could not improve Barcelona strength and competitiveness in Champions League and Europa League. They need better growth from their young players, need them to be more bravery and winning spirit to compete in big competitions.

Ilkay Gundogan was an important player for Manchester City when he won historic trebles for Manchester City and Barcelona. Having Ilkay Gundogan is the right choice, because the arrival of Ilkay Gundogan will fill the void in the Barcelona midfield after the departure of Sergio Busquets.
Gundogan has perfect skills to replace Busquet and he will help Barcelona midfield with his skills and experience with tiki-taka philosophy. He will help Barcelona to have more ideas in attacking and he can score goals too. Pedri and Gavi will learn a lot from Gundogan even he might only play a few seasons with Gundogan.
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Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay. Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.

As you said, yes Gundogan is a great replacement for Busquets, but I don't think Barcelona would trust him straight away as captain especially in his first season.

If you look deeper, then maybe you will find the figure of the captain who is most likely to lead Barcelona next season. Sergi Roberto, Marc-André ter Stegen and Frenkie de Jong will probably be up for that responsibility over the next season. So I believe Ilkay Gundogan doesn't deserve the captain's armband yet as he's not a player known for his loyalty as a new players. Araujo might have been more appropriate even though he was young.
I agree, it's never been wise decision to give him captaincy while you have too many other good players those are already done good for this club and have good future as well with few those are taking cut in their salaries as well even they have good chance for going to any other big club with huge salaries.

There is no doubt about Gundagon quality and his effort for Manchester City but now after years you are in completely different world and things never been same as you have in your previous club specially while you have many best stars those are deserved for this honor because there is nothing special while you are captain of the club it's just honor from club for his player.

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