La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Farma]

These two clubs are very different in that Real Madrid has been the only most successful club in La Liga and the world for a long time while Girona has only performed slightly better this season. But even so, they lost their balance and in the end gave up the top position of the standings to Real Madrid because they experienced consecutive defeats in several previous matches. Girona's performance has actually decreased compared to the start of the season until several matches made them top of the standings.

They lost twice to Real Madrid at home and away and most recently also suffered defeat against Athletic Club and several draws made their position drop to second place. If calculated overall, Girona's performance has not declined much, but they are competing with clubs that are much stronger so mistakes could put them at a disadvantage.

The mentality affected Girona so that they experienced a slight decline in performance in the previous few weeks, this is quite natural for a small team like Girona who is trying to compete with Real Madrid at the top of the standings, of course this team's mentality has been shaken.
Girona is also a surprise team this season, so it's normal if they can't make a surprise until the end of the season.

The competition between these two teams seems unfair because they both have very large differences in team quality, so they are not comparable so there is no fierce competition.
In La Liga, only Barceona and Atletico Madrid are able to compete with Real Madrid and when these two teams are down this season, Real Madrid will easily be at the top of the standings.

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It is clear that Athletic Bilbao will win the Copa Del Rey title because their opponent in the final is Mallorca, overall their performance is different Athletic Bilbao has a better performance when compared to Mallorca, so I am quite sure that Athletic Bilbao will beat Mallorca with the same score impressive. Bilbao managed to get rid of Atletico Madrid in this round. It should not be so tough to face Mallorca. However, even an ordinary club like Mallorca should be wary of by top clubs because they are sometimes able to provide unexpected surprises.

If you look at the standings of Bilbao and Mallorca, it is very different from the respective zones of these two clubs. If you look at Mallorca, they are not very good. Of the five matches they have played, they have always performed badly, only winning once, the rest they have only received defeats, of course in the next match it seems to be true. what you said is that Bilbao will easily win the Final match because Mallorca always performs badly in several matches, at least this is a match that Bilbao has won even though the match has not yet started, but it can already be seen that Bilbao is far superior in the Copa Del Final Ray...

[Hanadawa]

The competition between these two teams seems unfair because they both have very large differences in team quality, so they are not comparable so there is no fierce competition.
In La Liga, only Barceona and Atletico Madrid are able to compete with Real Madrid and when these two teams are down this season, Real Madrid will easily be at the top of the standings.

This is the same as what happens to several underdog teams competing at the top of the standings and even competing for the championship title. The quality and depth of the squad will make a difference in the consistency of play. A strong team like Real Madrid can rotate players a lot and use various tactics because they have many great players who can adapt to game tactics. And an underdog team like Girona must be able to show the best performance from their main squad to be able to compete at the top of the standings. And if they make a mistake or the main player is injured then it can make their performance decline. I think the only way that an underdog team can win the title is if the performance of a strong team declines in that season or the team is able to play solidly collectively like Leverkusen did in the Bundesliga.

[rendravolt]

At first it was very difficult to guess the result of this match but I was impressed that I didn't want to know who would win and avoided betting on one team's victory. We know that the odds offered by bookies make almost no difference and it is very difficult to predict when seeing odds like that. Of course, if we guess correctly it will be very enjoyable, but if we are wrong it will actually be detrimental. So I tried to think more rationally because both teams were aiming for a goal to ensure their chance of qualifying.

What I think sometimes actually happens and even though there was thought that Atletico could reverse the aggregate, it seems that didn't happen and instead Bilbao beat Diego Simione's squad badly. I don't think Atletico can be relied on even with that small aggregate difference. I am happy that Bilbao is not afraid at all and maybe they will take a step closer to winning the Copa Del Rey title this season.

Anyway, I bet over 2.25 goals and thanks to Bilbao you were amazing, even though I had hoped that Atletico would recover after conceding, but in fact they were even worse.

[HajiBagi]

Athletic club: 3
Atlatico Madrid: 0
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Here we go, guys again Atlatico Madrid are losing the match I didn't understand what was wrong with them. Recently Atlatico Madrid have lose every single match since Real Madrid Darby including the Champions League and La Liga and now they are know outing for Copa del Rey. They lost all of his matches, including six consecutive losses without the Las Palmas match. What is wrong with them. This tactics problem or players losing their confidence in terms of statistics.
 
But anyway By Atlatic side I mean Athletic Club are just dominating the match Both brothers are just putting Atlético Madrid into his pocket by their dominant performances, like both scoring and even assisting each other. But anyway Athletic Club has just qualified for the final and the final will be played between Mallorca and Athletic Club on April 6th.
 
What did you think guys? Atlatico Madrid has some tactics problem or players lose their confidence like low morale. Share your opinion with us.

Athletic Club has developed into a team that rival teams have to be wary of. This season, they have defeated a number of formidable opponents, most notably Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. This indicates that Athletic Club is well-positioned to win the Copa del Rey trophy, as I haven't seen a team as good as them in the league. Now that they are playing Mallorca in the final, and the team is so strong that Mallorca cannot even defeat them. Let's just say that Athletic Club has already won the Copa del Rey trophy because it is already evident that they will emerge victorious.

Atletico Madrid will be furious because they did not anticipate the goals that Athletic Club scored yesterday. Since Athletic Club is their only source of pride, losing to them will be extremely painful. However, in all honesty, Atletico Madrid's performance has been subpar; the only strategy they know is to play hard against Real Madrid and hope for a draw or victory at the end of the game. But, defeating smaller teams has become difficult for them. It's even fortunate that no major team in the Liga is going to win the Copa del Rey this season.

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Madrid must continue to be able to maintain its current consistency because however even though they are superior in terms of points now it can still be caught up if they are careless and do not take advantage of the moment in every match.
Against Valencia, despite playing away, Madrid are still the favorite club in terms of bookmakers' odds and I think that's a good thing but besides all that, I think this will be quite an emotional match again.  

We know that last season there was a problem where Vini had some tensions with the Valencia fans and even with the La Liga federation due to racism and this could be a match with a lot of ambition from Vini which will definitely make the match more interesting.

Madrid first meet with Valencia of the season was a 5-1 win at the Bernabeu and this could be a good motivation for Madrid as their statistics are better than Valencia.  

The absence of several players who are Don Carlo's mainstay due to injury could affect the performance of the Real Madrid squad when playing their matches. like when Madrid hosted the match against Sevilla, Carlo Ancelotti's squad had difficulty scoring goals. despite the fact, there are many opportunities they create. however, the Madrid players had difficulty scoring goals in the match until Luca Modric was the deciding factor in the match against Sevilla. that's why, if Anceloti doesn't want minor results or defeat. he had to formulate a formula for his team, especially because Bellingham and Joselu were absent due to injuries. this week, Raal Madrid will visit the Mestalla, Valencia's home ground. even though on paper Madrid are far superior, Don Carlo cannot repeat what his team did against Sevilla.

In this match, the bookie favors Madrid with odds @1.69. while Valencia, with odds @5.40.  To be honest, I doubt that the home team will be able to beat Real Madrid. however, this match does not rule out the possibility of ending in a draw. if the result is like this, it means there is a chance for Girona and Barcelona to reduce the points gap between them. We'll see if the Madrid players recover from their injuries and will play in the match against Valencia. or, Don Carlo had to change his system because several of his mainstay players were injured. well, let's just wait for more certainty, because the match will be held in the next 2 days.

Even though it is possible to happen, the fact is that we still have not seen them experiencing problems even though Madrid is currently missing several players due to injury.
Referring to the last match they still lost several defenders due to injuries that required several players to rest longer, besides that there was the name Camavinga who was not seen which made the increase in Madrid players who had to miss a match but that did not make them afraid and actually still played very well.

Last week they had a bit of a problem because they tried a 4-3-3 formation which they haven't done for a while but in this case I don't think it will be a strong reason for Madrid to lose points in this match because after all I am quite optimistic about what they will do in 90 minutes of the match.

1.69 could be a very decent odds for Madrid given the comparable performances between the two and it's still a very viable alternative in a single bet or even a multibet.

[Despairo]

At first it was very difficult to guess the result of this match but I was impressed that I didn't want to know who would win and avoided betting on one team's victory. We know that the odds offered by bookies make almost no difference and it is very difficult to predict when seeing odds like that. Of course, if we guess correctly it will be very enjoyable, but if we are wrong it will actually be detrimental. So I tried to think more rationally because both teams were aiming for a goal to ensure their chance of qualifying.

What I think sometimes actually happens and even though there was thought that Atletico could reverse the aggregate, it seems that didn't happen and instead Bilbao beat Diego Simione's squad badly. I don't think Atletico can be relied on even with that small aggregate difference. I am happy that Bilbao is not afraid at all and maybe they will take a step closer to winning the Copa Del Rey title this season.

Anyway, I bet over 2.25 goals and thanks to Bilbao you were amazing, even though I had hoped that Atletico would recover after conceding, but in fact they were even worse.

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Gladly you bet over goals instead of money line, I'm sure many people believe Atletico Madrid would win.

It's really shocking they can lose against Athletic Club when they were able to eliminate Real Madrid, so many upsets happen in Copa del Rey. The final match is Mallorca vs Athletic Club, will we see an another upset again?

[Hirose UK]

Week 26 has finished and week 27 matches will start again tomorrow with 3 matches which are matches for lower middle teams, on Sunday we will see the match between the top team Real Madrid against Valencia.
This is an easy match for Real Madrid and of course they can get full points and managed to save 68 points, so far they have only had 1 defeat with 5 draws.
Overall there are still 12 matches remaining and of course Real Madrid must maintain its performance to remain stable and lead the standings until this season competition is over in order to become champions.
In the last 10 seasons, Real Madrid and Barcelona have continuously taken turns winning the La Liga competition and now we will see Real Madrid win the title again after Barcelona won this competition last season.

But previously Atletico Madrid also performed very impressively in the 2020/21 season where they succeeded in making Real Madrid and Barcelona fail to win the title and only finished runners-up and third.
On paper, La Liga will only be competition dominated by Real Madrid and Barcelona, but now Barcelona is appearing in bad condition and they are really experiencing decline after some time ago there was player crisis due to injuries.

[Litzki1990]

La Liga title are only for the competitive teams, none of these teams will easily give up despite the challenges they're facing in the league. Girona was serious in the beginning of the season and they eventually climb the #1 position and couldn't maintain that position for long, thereby giving up for second spot, perhaps they're hitting harder than before to reclaimed their spots. They're still striving to gain access to streak winnings. Real Madrid have some opponent they're finding really hard to win this season and there are also some of these opposition that doesn't portray a single threat.

This is what sometimes surprises me. Girona who lost to Real Madrid were able to win against Rayo. While Real Madrid had to struggle to get 1 point against Rayo. So in conclusion, Girona's chances are still quite open to still compete for the La Liga title.  In every match a team is always in different conditions. Good statistics do not guarantee the team to always win. So with a difference of 6 points does not make Real Madrid safe for now.

Girona's performance seems to be getting worse as the matches end this season. Girona finished the season consistently and until the middle of the season the team was able to maintain their consistency but lately they have not been able to maintain that consistency. Girona have dropped points in a number of matches recently and have not performed as expected, which has seen them drop far down the points table. Where this team was at number one in the points table, this team's position has moved to number two or three in the points table. 
In this situation, if the performance cannot be done as before, then this team will not be able to compete with Real Madrid or Barcelona at all.

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Athletic club: 3
Atlatico Madrid: 0
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Here we go, guys again Atlatico Madrid are losing the match I didn't understand what was wrong with them. Recently Atlatico Madrid have lose every single match since Real Madrid Darby including the Champions League and La Liga and now they are know outing for Copa del Rey. They lost all of his matches, including six consecutive losses without the Las Palmas match. What is wrong with them. This tactics problem or players losing their confidence in terms of statistics.
 
But anyway By Atlatic side I mean Athletic Club are just dominating the match Both brothers are just putting Atlético Madrid into his pocket by their dominant performances, like both scoring and even assisting each other. But anyway Athletic Club has just qualified for the final and the final will be played between Mallorca and Athletic Club on April 6th.
 
What did you think guys? Atlatico Madrid has some tactics problem or players lose their confidence like low morale. Share your opinion with us.

Athletic Club has developed into a team that rival teams have to be wary of. This season, they have defeated a number of formidable opponents, most notably Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. This indicates that Athletic Club is well-positioned to win the Copa del Rey trophy, as I haven't seen a team as good as them in the league. Now that they are playing Mallorca in the final, and the team is so strong that Mallorca cannot even defeat them. Let's just say that Athletic Club has already won the Copa del Rey trophy because it is already evident that they will emerge victorious.

Atletico Madrid will be furious because they did not anticipate the goals that Athletic Club scored yesterday. Since Athletic Club is their only source of pride, losing to them will be extremely painful. However, in all honesty, Atletico Madrid's performance has been subpar; the only strategy they know is to play hard against Real Madrid and hope for a draw or victory at the end of the game. But, defeating smaller teams has become difficult for them. It's even fortunate that no major team in the Liga is going to win the Copa del Rey this season.

Atlético Club's current strong performance and their game certainly looks like they have a chance to win the Copa del Rey. This season, however, Atletico Club has defeated strong teams, so this season they are in the highest position to win the Copa del Rey league. As Atletico Madrid won the match against Madrid to secure the final with Mallorca, and this match is definitely competitive and the team that wins will win the only trophy.

As Atlético Madrid tried hard enough to win the league this season but they lost their luck with Atlético Club. Of course they beat teams like Real Madrid early on and beat Sevilla to enter the semi-finals but unfortunately they couldn't win the final match. Atlético was not so easy to succeed in attacking with the club due to which Atlético Madrid lost the result at the last minute. However, this season, Atlético Club has a good chance of winning the Copa del Rey title and they will definitely be champions.

[Velvet78]

The result of the first match really surprised us all. Athletic Bilbao beating Atletico Madrid is not something we would expect, but we can see such results in cup matches. I think Bilbao's happiness will end tonight.
Atletico Madrid is a strong team, they will not make such a mistake again. I think they will win the match tonight

Athletic Bilbao did much more than I expected from them. They simply destroyed Atletico Madrid by 3-0 home as well.    But I can't say they didn't deserve because Atletico Madrid were really not good enough in both games.    Having an important player missing like Griezmann also made a bad impact on their performance last night.

Now the name of the finale in the Copa del Rey is Athletic Bilbao - Mallorca. This is going to be a really unexpected kind of finale. As far as I know Mallorca won the cup once many years ago but I don't remember any when it comes to Athletic Bilbao. I hope Athletic Bilbao manage to be champions.

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Girona's performance seems to be getting worse as the matches end this season. Girona finished the season consistently and until the middle of the season the team was able to maintain their consistency but lately they have not been able to maintain that consistency. Girona have dropped points in a number of matches recently and have not performed as expected, which has seen them drop far down the points table. Where this team was at number one in the points table, this team's position has moved to number two or three in the points table. 
In this situation, if the performance cannot be done as before, then this team will not be able to compete with Real Madrid or Barcelona at all.

It is difficult to maintain consistent performance in any league regardless of how good the squad or players a team has. Girona is a seasonal team that only looks strong as long as the players are highly motivated, but over time the team's performance starts to suffer and they start to lose their best form.

Does this surprise you? I hope not, it was something that was predicted beforehand. Girona might be able to stay in the top four until the end of the season, but of course they will have to work harder to make it happen. This is a fantastic season for them, but as the season progresses the competition increases because all teams need points for their respective plans.

[Palakka]

Atletico Madrid couldn't do anything like you said and conceded 3 goals without counterattacking, actually I didn't expect Atletico Madrid to be eliminated in the semifinals like this. Atletico Madrid was 1 aggregate behind Athletic Bilbao in the first leg and that happened at Atletico Madrid's home ground so in fact Atletico Madrid had indirectly stated that it was unlikely they would reach the final because in the second leg Atletico's chances of winning were only small because Athletic Bilbao played very well strong at home and in fact it is true that Athletic was able to maintain a very strong defense and Athletic Bilbao did not concede a single goal in the first and second legs and was able to create 4 aggregates and managed to qualify for the final.

It is clear that Athletic Bilbao will win the Copa Del Rey title because their opponent in the final is Mallorca, overall their performance is different Athletic Bilbao has a better performance when compared to Mallorca, so I am quite sure that Athletic Bilbao will beat Mallorca with the same score impressive. Bilbao managed to get rid of Atletico Madrid in this round. It should not be so tough to face Mallorca. However, even an ordinary club like Mallorca should be wary of by top clubs because they are sometimes able to provide unexpected surprises.

Two consecutive wins over Atletico Madrid certainly provide a great opportunity for Athletic Bilbao to get their first trophy this season, to be honest, in the first leg I thought Bilbao were just lucky to win because of the narrow score, but this was actually refuted when Bilbao also managed to destroy Atletico Madrid in Last night second leg in the semi-final match with an aggregate of 4-, of course was clearly a surprising thing considering that the head to head between the two teams which Atletico Madrid had always won so far, before the match started, I was quite sure that all of us here would definitely favor Atletico Madrid to win because their performance is still better than Bilbao.

Atletico Madrid were actually able to control the game with almost 60% control of the ball, and even the accurate passes created by Atletico Madrid were almost perfect( 83%)which is inversely proportional to Bilbao, was only able to create a pass accuracy of around (73%),Apart from the superiority of shots on target in that match, I thought Bilbao seems losing on all fronts compared to Atletico Madrid, but it turns out that with all these shortcomings, Bilbao managed to take advantage of all the existing gaps and scored 3 goals to ensure their progress towards the final, in the final, I think it will be easy for Bilbao to overcome Mallorca to get the championship trophy.

[Strongkored]

The final match is Mallorca vs Athletic Club, will we see an another upset again?

Mallorca won the Copa del Rey about two decades ago and it was their first title in this cup.
If they succeeded in making a surprise, it would certainly be a very pleasant thing for this club which is not to good this season.
I think otherwise with Mallorca getting to the final it would be even easier to predict who will win the Copa del Rey this season, but who knows there will be surprises because getting to the final is certainly not something that Mallorca will easily repeat next season so they will play very well to be able to lift this trophy.

The two teams that made it to the Copa Del Rey final will face tough matches, Athletic Bilbao against Barcelona and Mallorca against Girona.
Athletic are trying to reach the top four especially since they are only three points behind Atletico Madrid, but beating Barcelona is not an easy thing for Athletic because they beat Barca more often in other competitions, not in league matches where Barca beat them more often so this will be something the hard one.
Likewise with Mallorca, even though they are the home team, they also often lose at home and facing Girona, a team that is still struggling to become a competitor to Real Madrid, will make it even more difficult and my prediction is that the away team will win in these two matches.

[Luzin]

Does this surprise you? I hope not, it was something that was predicted beforehand. Girona might be able to stay in the top four until the end of the season, but of course they will have to work harder to make it happen. This is a fantastic season for them, but as the season progresses the competition increases because all teams need points for their respective plans.

Girona actually exceeded my expectations. I thought they could only last 1/4 season at the top. But until today they are quite stable with their position. And the drop in the rankings isn't bad either. Girona didn't crash and disappear from the top 3. This is already an unexpected achievement. The beginning of the season made me doubt because they are a new team and have never been able to reach the championship. So at the start of the season I expected them to crumble soon, but I was wrong. Because they were able to appear quite stable. But I have my doubts for next season.

[Ahli38]

The result of the first match really surprised us all. Athletic Bilbao beating Atletico Madrid is not something we would expect, but we can see such results in cup matches. I think Bilbao's happiness will end tonight.
Atletico Madrid is a strong team, they will not make such a mistake again. I think they will win the match tonight

Athletic Bilbao did much more than I expected from them. They simply destroyed Atletico Madrid by 3-0 home as well.    But I can't say they didn't deserve because Atletico Madrid were really not good enough in both games.    Having an important player missing like Griezmann also made a bad impact on their performance last night.

Now the name of the finale in the Copa del Rey is Athletic Bilbao - Mallorca. This is going to be a really unexpected kind of finale. As far as I know Mallorca won the cup once many years ago but I don't remember any when it comes to Athletic Bilbao. I hope Athletic Bilbao manage to be champions.

The most surprising result from this match was that Atletico Madrid couldn't even score 1 goal in the 2 matches against Bilbao. In the first leg Atletico Madrid lost with a score of 0-1. And in the second leg, it turned out that Atletico Madrid lost even more embarrassingly. losing with a score of 3-0 is really not like Atletico Madrid.

And yeah the Bilbao vs Mallorca final was another surprise one too. Because somehow the strong teams also have to fall first. Maybe their strong teams don't play as seriously as in other competitions. But if you think back, of course no one wants to lose in any competition. It's just that it remains a mystery why many big clubs always find it difficult to reach the finals in smaller competitions. 

[Cryptmuster]

Athletic Bilbao did much more than I expected from them. They simply destroyed Atletico Madrid by 3-0 home as well.    But I can't say they didn't deserve because Atletico Madrid were really not good enough in both games.    Having an important player missing like Griezmann also made a bad impact on their performance last night.

Now the name of the finale in the Copa del Rey is Athletic Bilbao - Mallorca. This is going to be a really unexpected kind of finale. As far as I know Mallorca won the cup once many years ago but I don't remember any when it comes to Athletic Bilbao. I hope Athletic Bilbao manage to be champions.

And in place of Mallorca there could be Girona. ) I agree the final is unexpected, and it seems to me that Athletic will be the favorite in this final. They are looking very good now, they beat Barcelona and Atlético Madrid on the way to the final, I think this fact already shows how strong this team is now. By the way, Athletic Bilbao is quite close to the top 4, they are only three points from Atletico and if they can continue and play so well, then they have a very good chance of trying to get past them.

[Roseline492]

Athletic Bilbao did much more than I expected from them. They simply destroyed Atletico Madrid by 3-0 home as well.    But I can't say they didn't deserve because Atletico Madrid were really not good enough in both games.    Having an important player missing like Griezmann also made a bad impact on their performance last night.

It was surprising to me seeing how the match between Athletic Bilbao and Atletico Madrid ended because I never knew that Athletic Bilbao will be this good to easily outperform Atletico Madrid the way they did because they dominated the match from the first minute of the match till the end of the match with a serious pressure against Atletico Madrid I believe that Atletico Madrid did not see the wining coming because they will still be very shocked seeing how well Athletic Bilbao has improved, although I'm surprise that with the kind of players Atletico Madrid has over Athletic Bilbao they will stoop so low that they could not even score just one goal on that match.

[Awaklara]

I am not surprised by this result, Atletico Madrid has not been consistent throughout this season, so that when they meet a comparable opponent, the Atletico Madrid team is unable to develop its performance.

I admit that Athletic Bilbao this season has been quite extraordinary and their success in getting to the final is quite natural, now I think they will be quite close to the trophy this season.

but to be honest, the 4-0 aggregate result hit Atletico Madrid. It was unexpected even though Bilbao's chances of winning were quite big, but I didn't think it would be a landslide advantage over Atletico Madrid.
It seems like there is an opportunity for Bilbao to shift Atletico Madrid from the top 4 positions in the standings. Bilbao's performance is quite convincing at the moment and this is an extraordinary achievement after several years of only being in the middle of the La Liga standings.

[bangjoe]

The result of the first match really surprised us all. Athletic Bilbao beating Atletico Madrid is not something we would expect, but we can see such results in cup matches. I think Bilbao's happiness will end tonight.
Atletico Madrid is a strong team, they will not make such a mistake again. I think they will win the match tonight

Athletic Bilbao did much more than I expected from them. They simply destroyed Atletico Madrid by 3-0 home as well.    But I can't say they didn't deserve because Atletico Madrid were really not good enough in both games.    Having an important player missing like Griezmann also made a bad impact on their performance last night.

Now the name of the finale in the Copa del Rey is Athletic Bilbao - Mallorca. This is going to be a really unexpected kind of finale. As far as I know Mallorca won the cup once many years ago but I don't remember any when it comes to Athletic Bilbao. I hope Athletic Bilbao manage to be champions.

I am not surprised by this result, Atletico Madrid has not been consistent throughout this season, so that when they meet a comparable opponent, the Atletico Madrid team is unable to develop its performance.

I admit that Athletic Bilbao this season has been quite extraordinary and their success in getting to the final is quite natural, now I think they will be quite close to the trophy this season.

hahaha, the copa del rey gave a different aura to the match between Atletico madrid and athletico bilbao, I also felt something strange and the goal made by bilbao really put mental pressure on the athletico madrid squad, 3-0 was a pretty terrible score in my opinion, meaning that this match was a bit embarrassing for athletico madrid in my opinion.

But maybe the influence of the home ground was so great on Atletico Madrid's squad that they lost their game, and we have to ask Simeone what happened to Atletico Madrid.