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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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August 10, 2021, 12:10:26 PM
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In order to want to sign Messi again, Barcelona are willing to lose 11% of broadcasting rights because they will sign a contract involving La Liga and CVC Capital Partners.
I read about this news in some local online media. Barcelona still seem to want to get Messi and renew his contract after they changed their decision to agree to sign a contract on broadcasting right. There is still the possibility of Messi staying at Barcelona despite current rumor that he has received an offer from wealthy French club PSG. I hope that Messi stays because I believe that Barcelona are still not willing to let their players leave. PSG fans may have been waiting for Messi's arrival, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen or the odds are pretty low.

I'm not sure  it seems that Barcelona is starting to forget all the memories I found a video that workers take off the messi banner in the stadium
I believe this is an attempt to forget  https://twitter.com/Copa90/status/1425049005575315461
After all, it would be embarrassing to say goodbye and then take it back

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August 10, 2021, 12:22:17 PM
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There's another player leaving Barcelona.
Pjanic really wanted to wear the Juve jersey again and has accepted to cut his salary by 20% to go back to Italy. The Bosnian, who the other night was among the most criticized by Barça supporters, is ready to return to Turin on a one-year loan, extendable for a second year.
Barcelona will get relieved a little tho since they are struggling to sign newly signed players.. Loaning or selling players is a must. Umtiti for example doesn't want to leave Barca but he is threatened to not play if he doesn't accept a loan offer from French (Nice, Monaco) or Turkish (Besiktas) clubs. Braithwaite also refused to leave after a deal was reached. Koeman is in an awkward situation right now.

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August 10, 2021, 01:01:52 PM
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I'm concerned that Messi's move from Barcelona will affect La Liga in no small way. Messi brings a lot of value to La Liga. Imagine Barcelona without a Messi? On the other hand, I strongly believe that Barca just wants to groom youngsters,  Frenkie de Jong or Pedri instead of having to renew his contract. Well I hope Messi is able to do in PSG and  the french league what he has done in Barca (as he is such a transformational player, I who  drove  the club's prestige way further in his 20years stay) and the Spanish league.
I also think so, after ronaldo went to turin, the spanish league was a bit of a problem, the sponsors were reduced, and the audience attraction decreased, especially now that messi has completely left Barcelona, ​​for sure the attraction of the audience for the spanish league will decrease, because in the past when there was ronaldo and messi who played in the spain league, it can be said that the spanish league was greatly admired by all fans, but now both of them are gone,, let's see what will happen next year for the spain league, is it really true decreased, or vice versa.

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August 10, 2021, 01:17:23 PM
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I'm concerned that Messi's move from Barcelona will affect La Liga in no small way. Messi brings a lot of value to La Liga. Imagine Barcelona without a Messi? On the other hand, I strongly believe that Barca just wants to groom youngsters,  Frenkie de Jong or Pedri instead of having to renew his contract. Well I hope Messi is able to do in PSG and  the french league what he has done in Barca (as he is such a transformational player, I who  drove  the club's prestige way further in his 20years stay) and the Spanish league.
I also think so, after ronaldo went to turin, the spanish league was a bit of a problem, the sponsors were reduced, and the audience attraction decreased, especially now that messi has completely left Barcelona, ​​for sure the attraction of the audience for the spanish league will decrease, because in the past when there was ronaldo and messi who played in the spain league, it can be said that the spanish league was greatly admired by all fans, but now both of them are gone,, let's see what will happen next year for the spain league, is it really true decreased, or vice versa.

The following fact alone makes clear why the Spanish league deserved all the attention it received globally:

Ballon d'or:

2009: Messi - FC Barcelona

2010: Messi - FC Barcelona

2011: Messi - FC Barcelona

2012: Messi - FC Barcelona

2013: Ronaldo - Real Madrid

2014: Ronaldo - Real Madrid

2015: Messi - Fc Barcelona

2016: Ronaldo - Real Madrid

2017: Ronaldo - Real Madrid

2018: Modrić - Real Madrid

2019: Messi - FC Barcelona


Now both of these guys are getting older and older and by now both left La Liga. That would be a hit to any league in terms of global attention.

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August 10, 2021, 01:18:39 PM
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As there are only a few days left to the first week of the new season, I'm quite excited now. I think that Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid will win their games. Their opponents are Alaves and Celta Vigo respectively. Each of them will play an away game. But Barcelona have a much more tougher opponent compared to them. Their opponent is Real Sociedad and it is a home game. I have difficulty in predicting the result of this game. Because there will be no Messi from now on.

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August 10, 2021, 01:34:55 PM
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I think it's the case for Valencia to become a top5 team in LaLiga , don't you think the same guys ? It's been to damn long since Valencia had a great squad , a great coach and most important a great year in football in general.

Now would be the perfect time for a team like Valencia to come out of shadows and put a great season as their fans really forgot how it feels to take victories in a row and participate in Europe competitions. I also noticed that Barcelona kinda ok without Messi.

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August 10, 2021, 02:40:36 PM
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I think it's the case for Valencia to become a top5 team in LaLiga , don't you think the same guys ? It's been to damn long since Valencia had a great squad , a great coach and most important a great year in football in general.

Now would be the perfect time for a team like Valencia to come out of shadows and put a great season as their fans really forgot how it feels to take victories in a row and participate in Europe competitions. I also noticed that Barcelona kinda ok without Messi.

Before enjoying the first few matches it is very difficult to predict which teams will be at the top of the points table next season. My guess is that Atletico Madrid Barcelona and Real Madrid will be in the top 3 of the table as usual. In fourth place I want to put the Sevilla team. The team had a very stable performance in the previous season. It will be very difficult for Valencia to be in the top 5 teams. Because La Liga has a better squad than Valencia. If Valencia's goal is to be in the top five in the points table, they need to play cautiously from the first match.

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August 10, 2021, 03:11:30 PM
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I think it's the case for Valencia to become a top5 team in LaLiga , don't you think the same guys ? It's been to damn long since Valencia had a great squad , a great coach and most important a great year in football in general.

Now would be the perfect time for a team like Valencia to come out of shadows and put a great season as their fans really forgot how it feels to take victories in a row and participate in Europe competitions. I also noticed that Barcelona kinda ok without Messi.

5th position is ideal for Valencia at the end of the season, but in the last few seasons, it seems like Valencia have struggled to find a good formation of players. We can't really make pre-season the overall of their performance, but for now, Valencia still seems inconsistent, and this will be very important at the beginning of the season to be solved. Because, if they can perform well in the first few weeks/games, maybe the mentality of the players will also be better and bring them to finish on 5th

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August 10, 2021, 03:38:38 PM
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In this season, I think that top 4 teams in the standings are already certain. I'm expecting Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona to fill top 3. And I think that the fourth place will be claimed by Sevilla. But after that, it's getting hard to predict. The fifth place belonged to Real Sociedad in the last season. But this time, maybe it can change.

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August 10, 2021, 06:39:17 PM
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Laliga has lost several million Messi fans today. Plus, the classics this season will be watched by a record low number of viewers. Spain will lose its place in the Champions League for several years. But let's hope that La Liga will return much stronger than it was.
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August 10, 2021, 06:55:28 PM
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As there are only a few days left to the first week of the new season, I'm quite excited now. I think that Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid will win their games. Their opponents are Alaves and Celta Vigo respectively. Each of them will play an away game. But Barcelona have a much more tougher opponent compared to them. Their opponent is Real Sociedad and it is a home game. I have difficulty in predicting the result of this game. Because there will be no Messi from now on.
I still don't think Barcelona took the right decision by dropping Messi. His love for the club was extraordinary, he even agreed drop his salary. Real Sociedad is not a weak team, and will definitely give Barcelona a tough time, although, is their first match for the season. I think the match will end draw. While Atletico Madrid will probably win against Celta Vigo.



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August 10, 2021, 07:04:24 PM
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In order to want to sign Messi again, Barcelona are willing to lose 11% of broadcasting rights because they will sign a contract involving La Liga and CVC Capital Partners. I don't know if it's the best chance for Messi to wear the Barcelona jersey again, but yes I think he still really wants to do it.
Messi is worth more than any broadcasting rights but the PSG and Messi deal is a done deal they are expecting him to sign today. If you are a barcelona fan I would not get your hopes up about signing messi again.
This is the type of thinking that cost Barcelona financial trouble. No player, not Messi now, not Messi at his best worths getting in debt for over a decade, that is just not acceptable and that should not be done at all.

I understand that he could be the best player in the entire world, he certainly was the best player in history of the sport, and he is still top 5 at worst case right now at this age, but still if you give up over a decade worth of income then how can you ever be good when Messi leaves? Eventually this dude will retire, and sooner than a decade for sure, he ain't playing until 45, which means you are giving up income for a period where he won't even play.

There is no logic in keeping Messi, let him leave and you can rebuild and eventually Barcelona will be good again, everyone with expensive salary will leave eventually, and they can rebuild the whole team.

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Now would be the perfect time for a team like Valencia to come out of shadows and put a great season as their fans really forgot how it feels to take victories in a row and participate in Europe competitions. I also noticed that Barcelona kinda ok without Messi.
Valencia is a team of the first caliber, just against the background of strong rivals it may seem that the club is not the same as before. I'm pretty sure that if Valencia had played in a different league, the result would have been completely different "due to his hot blood", so to speak.

And you are right about Messi, I also think that his departure from La Liga will not affect the state of affairs in the league in any way, [although Barcelona may win this year, showing everyone that Barça is not only Messi].

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I'm concerned that Messi's move from Barcelona will affect La Liga in no small way. Messi brings a lot of value to La Liga. Imagine Barcelona without a Messi? On the other hand, I strongly believe that Barca just wants to groom youngsters,  Frenkie de Jong or Pedri instead of having to renew his contract. Well I hope Messi is able to do in PSG and  the french league what he has done in Barca (as he is such a transformational player, I who  drove  the club's prestige way further in his 20years stay) and the Spanish league.
I think your worries will come true now.
regardless of bad or not, but the impact of messi leaving for PSG now will at least affect the market price and commercial value of Barcelona and La Liga itself.
because at this time I believe there must be some people who have started to change direction from the original supporters from Barcelona, now they will move to support PSG because of the effect of Messi joining. And this is not without evidence, you can see the official PSG Instagram social media account, which originally only had 28 million followers, has now drastically increased to 40 million when I last checked.
and it will indirectly hurt La Liga and Barcelona and I glimpsed an article that said Barcelona must prepare at least they lost 11% of all their commercial income after Messi left Barca.

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Laliga has lost several million Messi fans today. Plus, the classics this season will be watched by a record low number of viewers. Spain will lose its place in the Champions League for several years. But let's hope that La Liga will return much stronger than it was.
Indeed, Barcelona had the worldwide fan for Messi. His departure was unexpected. Currently Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar are the most popular soccer players. None of them are in any La Liga club now. As a result La Liga will loss it's worldwide fame gradually. El Clasico won't be exciting like it was in the past. However, we might see a competitive and exciting La Liga season like before. But Barcelona won't be consider as most favourite team of upcoming season.

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Laliga has lost several million Messi fans today. Plus, the classics this season will be watched by a record low number of viewers. Spain will lose its place in the Champions League for several years. But let's hope that La Liga will return much stronger than it was.
Indeed, Barcelona had the worldwide fan for Messi. His departure was unexpected. Currently Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar are the most popular soccer players. None of them are in any La Liga club now. As a result La Liga will loss it's worldwide fame gradually. El Clasico won't be exciting like it was in the past. However, we might see a competitive and exciting La Liga season like before. But Barcelona won't be consider as most favourite team of upcoming season.

You're right, with the current situation every team has an equal chance competition becomes more competitive
Watching every match might be a little boring like you said there are no special matches like El Clasico, La Liga's appeal will slowly fade at least this season

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Regardless, Barcelona shouldn't have lost Messi. If he had offered to pay his salary and get a 10% discount from the other players, I think the team would have accepted it. If this was done, of course, the balance in the team could be upset.
From what I understand, Messi can not cut his salary more than 50% because of La Liga rule as well. La Liga does not accept difference in salary between two seasons is more than 50%. Is it real rule from La Liga?

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Hearing that Paris SG is interested in Messi, I read news that Barcelona management will complain about Paris SG. They claimed that the financial situation of the Paris team is worse than Barcelona.
This is another unprofessional response from Barcelona. If they can not keep Messi, they should respect him from all contributions he did for the club, and let him go. They should keep silent and support Messi for the new contract in PSG.

Oppositely to what they should do, they attacked PSG and tried to challenge Messi and PSG. I don't like it.

Regarding Messi's future regardless of what they have to do to the player, PSG has always been a team that supports the great stars, Cavanni did very well, Neymar Jr is doing well, I think that if Barcelona He is taking Messi out the back door, his greatest punishment will be that when Messi enters PSG (if it is the team he will go to) it is that he will take many tournaments and titles from Barcelona, even if Messi is an already veteran player You cannot compare his talent with another player, it is something like the case of Cristiano Ronaldo, a team that enters, a team that will reap more titles.

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August 10, 2021, 10:46:52 PM
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Hearing that Paris SG is interested in Messi, I read news that Barcelona management will complain about Paris SG. They claimed that the financial situation of the Paris team is worse than Barcelona.
This is another unprofessional response from Barcelona. If they can not keep Messi, they should respect him from all contributions he did for the club, and let him go. They should keep silent and support Messi for the new contract in PSG.

Oppositely to what they should do, they attacked PSG and tried to challenge Messi and PSG. I don't like it.

Where do read that news, mate?
If it is true, it will be very shameful for Barcelona. It is like the attitude of a child who lost his toy. Barcelona shouldn't act like this, a very unprofessional attitude. I agree with you if Barcelona must support Messi's decision. He already gave everything to Barcelona, now it is time for him to move. Barcelona management has no right to refuse Messi's decision. If Barcelona management really attacks PSG, they will lose people's respect. And finally, many Barca fans will leave Barcelona suddenly, especially those who are fanatic Messi fans.

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August 10, 2021, 11:00:27 PM
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Hearing that Paris SG is interested in Messi, I read news that Barcelona management will complain about Paris SG. They claimed that the financial situation of the Paris team is worse than Barcelona.
This is another unprofessional response from Barcelona. If they can not keep Messi, they should respect him from all contributions he did for the club, and let him go. They should keep silent and support Messi for the new contract in PSG.

Oppositely to what they should do, they attacked PSG and tried to challenge Messi and PSG. I don't like it.

Where do read that news, mate?
If it is true, it will be very shameful for Barcelona. It is like the attitude of a child who lost his toy. Barcelona shouldn't act like this, a very unprofessional attitude. I agree with you if Barcelona must support Messi's decision. He already gave everything to Barcelona, now it is time for him to move. Barcelona management has no right to refuse Messi's decision. If Barcelona management really attacks PSG, they will lose people's respect. And finally, many Barca fans will leave Barcelona suddenly, especially those who are fanatic Messi fans.
It is probably true and I read the news as well. Problem is Barca is looking childish and petty but they are absolutely right. They can't give new contract to Messi because financial fair play and PSG can? With Neymar, Mbappe, Donaruma, Ramos, Di Maria, Veratti and Icardi already in the team? Please, they are making fun of that rule and should be kicked from Europe because of that. Not gonna happen, but then it is better to dismiss with the rule or put on proper Salary Cap like USA and make sure everybody is compliant.

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The biggest surprise of the year for all football fans. Messi has been legally a PSG player until 2023 after he agreed to sign a contract. Goodbye Messi and welcome to PSG. Imagine how PSG attack power after Messi came. It turns out that Barcelona really have to let their players go on a free transfer. Lol

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