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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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July 17, 2021, 08:09:45 PM
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If aguero didn't express his key role in Manchester city last season, I think he knew his time was up in maybe top flight but Barcelona was something he couldn't miss, but with less appearance at Manchester city last season and for Argentina, I think honestly he would be sparsely used by Barcelona in the Spanish LaLiga, except he replicate what Luis Suarez did at Atletico Madrid, then he might not have an exciting Barcelona career, I believe in aguero and if Ronaldo, Messi and Ibrahimovic and more great aged players are still active then aguero has nothing to worry about age, if he works for fitness.
Aguero is a year younger than Luis Suarez but I still choose Suarez as the best of the two. Aguero will take the place Suarez left at Barcelona, ​​he is a striker and I'm sure he knows what Barcelona bought him for. Hoping that Aguero can fit into Barcelona's style of play, he will have to prove himself worthy to be in that team.

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July 17, 2021, 08:58:28 PM
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Griezmann did not fit into Barcelona properly, although the whole season was not very successful for Barcelona, so it is difficult to judge the individual results of each player. It also takes time become part of the team, perhaps if Griezman had more time, he could open up in Barcelona.
I highly disagree with that statement. If you ask me Griezmann is a perfect Barcelona type of player, he was always like that for whole his career and when he went to Barcelona I believed that they did a wonderful move and it was a great transfer.

What I can probably agree is that Griezmann is getting older and Barcelona wants to keep Messi on the team so they have to send some players to other teams to cover the difference to make it financially fair play for everyone, but that is still not something that means Griezmann was or is a bad player that doesn't fit Barcelona style, he was always using the same tactic as Barcelona played and he fit very perfectly there. However dude is 30 now and if they keep him few more years then they can't sell him for a good amount, now when they have the chance they may get as much as 50-70 million levels and that is a good amount, in 2 years he will not be even 30-40 so they are after making a profit.

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July 17, 2021, 09:08:00 PM
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Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.
Of course, they don't wanna sell him but If Mbappé refuses to pen down a contract extension, they risk being the big losers (Mbappé leaves next summer on a free transfer)
Who in this current situation would want to miss out making $150M+ on such a potential world-class player?

I think Real Madrid isn't in a worse situation as Barça when it comes to finances right now, but Barça are signing or at least trying to make bids.

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July 17, 2021, 09:59:13 PM
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I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?
How can you assume he won't contribute much because he wasn't young anymore? You look like very underestimate him. I am not a Barcelona fan, but I appreciate that Barcelona was successful to sign Aguero. He is one of the top strikers in the world that have many good histories in his career. All people know he has great skills and mentality as a striker. Assuming he won't contribute much is an unreasonable thing, you have no valid reason for this. You ignore the fact that he is one of the key players of Man City and Atletico Madrid in past. He is one of the players who had a big role in the success of the two clubs previously. Of course, he will do the same in Barcelona.


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July 17, 2021, 11:41:35 PM
Last edit: July 18, 2021, 01:00:15 AM by AndySt
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Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.
Barcelona also has an equally big financial crisis, and maybe even a bigger one, the soap opera with the signing of a new contract by Messi is a vivid confirmation of this, but the Catalan club is nevertheless trying to be active in the transfer market. There was even information that the Barcelona players were unhappy that the club forced them to sign agreements on salary cuts, but at the same time they were signing new players with potentially higher wages than the current players. Real Madrid has a fairly competitive squad, but strengthening is certainly necessary and the absence of Real Madrid players in the Spanish national team at the last European Championship leads to certain reflections.
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July 17, 2021, 11:56:53 PM
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Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.
Barcelona also has an equally big financial crisis, and maybe even a bigger one, the soap opera with the signing of a new contract by Messi is a vivid confirmation of this, but the Catalan club is nevertheless trying to be active in the transfer market. There was even information that the Barcelona players were unhappy that the club forced them to sign agreements on salary cuts, but at the same time they were signing new players with potentially higher wages than the current players.

Barcelona is in a serious financial crisis. so they reduced the salaries of some players and tried to sell some players who did not contribute.
Then some players who were brought in by Barcelona on a free transfer, what Barcelona did was already on the right track. But there is good news
from Spanish media Marca, said Barcelona had secured a loan from Goldman Sachs, an American bank, of 500 million euros. This means that
Barcelona get big funds to buy players in the transfer market, although the funds will partly be used by Barcelona to cover old debts. But at least
Barcelona can be active in the transfer market.

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July 18, 2021, 02:22:56 AM
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I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?
How can you assume he won't contribute much because he wasn't young anymore? You look like very underestimate him. I am not a Barcelona fan, but I appreciate that Barcelona was successful to sign Aguero. He is one of the top strikers in the world that have many good histories in his career. All people know he has great skills and mentality as a striker. Assuming he won't contribute much is an unreasonable thing, you have no valid reason for this. You ignore the fact that he is one of the key players of Man City and Atletico Madrid in past. He is one of the players who had a big role in the success of the two clubs previously. Of course, he will do the same in Barcelona.


Age affects the style of play and you can't compare the style of play in the past and now because again, age will affect the style of play on the field. Look at how Ronaldo was at the end of his season with Juventus, Ronaldo's movements were not the same as when he was in the uniforms of Manchester United and Real Madrid. When Ronaldo played in these two teams, his movements were very agile, so he continued to make many movements that bothered the opponent, but now that he is no longer young, at least we can see a change in his playing style, which is just waiting for the ball. Therefore, I personally think a player with an age who is no longer young then of course he will not be as good as in the past even though his role on the field is still needed but still, a player with an old age will only be good for a motivation for his teammates.

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July 18, 2021, 06:32:27 AM
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Age affects the style of play and you can't compare the style of play in the past and now because again, age will affect the style of play on the field.
When players get older, they will have to change their playing style. Young players can depend on speed and physical strength. When they are older, they will play will their experience and can make excellent decisions with more accurate passing and shots.

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Look at how Ronaldo was at the end of his season with Juventus, Ronaldo's movements were not the same as when he was in the uniforms of Manchester United and Real Madrid. When Ronaldo played in these two teams, his movements were very agile, so he continued to make many movements that bothered the opponent, but now that he is no longer young, at least we can see a change in his playing style, which is just waiting for the ball.
Ronaldo changed from a wing back with good dribbling skills to become a striker. His chances are clearer after the transfer to Real Madrid. In Juventus, Ronaldo play more at left side and does more dribblings than in Real Madrid but he does no longer depend on his speed.

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Therefore, I personally think a player with an age who is no longer young then of course he will not be as good as in the past even though his role on the field is still needed but still, a player with an old age will only be good for a motivation for his teammates.
Ibrahimovic came to AC Milan and brought confidence to his teammates. You can compare how bad Ante Rebic played before Ibra joined Milan and after that. Two seasons ago, Ibra joined Milan after the Winter transfer season, and changed Ante Rebic a lot.

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July 18, 2021, 11:31:32 AM
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I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?
How can you assume he won't contribute much because he wasn't young anymore? You look like very underestimate him. I am not a Barcelona fan, but I appreciate that Barcelona was successful to sign Aguero. He is one of the top strikers in the world that have many good histories in his career. All people know he has great skills and mentality as a striker. Assuming he won't contribute much is an unreasonable thing, you have no valid reason for this. You ignore the fact that he is one of the key players of Man City and Atletico Madrid in past. He is one of the players who had a big role in the success of the two clubs previously. Of course, he will do the same in Barcelona.



Yeah, we can't know that now. Because there is a really good example about this topic. Luis Suarez is 34 years old but we all know that he had a great season at Atletico in the last season. He scored 21 goals in 32 La Liga games. Maybe Aguero can do a similar thing also. By having Messi beside him, he can score easier than ever.

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July 18, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
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Alaba is a really sensible transfer for Real Madrid. Because they have lost Ramos and they are really close to lose Varane to Manchester Utd also. In this case, they were going to need a good defender desperately. Actually they still need a decent defender in case Varane leaves I think. But at least, they won't need to rush things.
Yes it was a needed deal and they still need several players in different positions a central defender and some wing players since the current ones did not perform well this season plus hazard many injuries so they can compete in the different competitions.

Alaba arrival to Madrid will certainly be able to cover the position left by Ramos, especially since Alaba is a player who can play in several positions, namely as a center back, left back, and defensive midfielder. so that Alaba can be placed in various central positions, especially if Varane is gone, of course Alaba will be plotted with Eder Militao in guarding the Real Madrid defense, because so far the position of center back has always been filled by the Ramos-Varane ,
But I agree with you, if  madrid still need a few more defenders if varane is really going to leave.
Certainly yes! Madrid still need more experience and quality defenders,Atleast two to complement Alaba at that defence since Ramos and Varane has already left to PSG and Man-U  respectively. A solid defence can enhance their tittle chace next season.Their front is already ok,but still think they need to add more depth to their midfield.
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Alaba is a really sensible transfer for Real Madrid. Because they have lost Ramos and they are really close to lose Varane to Manchester Utd also. In this case, they were going to need a good defender desperately. Actually they still need a decent defender in case Varane leaves I think. But at least, they won't need to rush things.
Yes it was a needed deal and they still need several players in different positions a central defender and some wing players since the current ones did not perform well this season plus hazard many injuries so they can compete in the different competitions.

Alaba arrival to Madrid will certainly be able to cover the position left by Ramos, especially since Alaba is a player who can play in several positions, namely as a center back, left back, and defensive midfielder. so that Alaba can be placed in various central positions, especially if Varane is gone, of course Alaba will be plotted with Eder Militao in guarding the Real Madrid defense, because so far the position of center back has always been filled by the Ramos-Varane ,
But I agree with you, if  madrid still need a few more defenders if varane is really going to leave.
Certainly yes! Madrid still need more experience and quality defenders,Atleast two to complement Alaba at that defence since Ramos and Varane has already left to PSG and Man-U  respectively. A solid defence can enhance their tittle chace next season.Their front is already ok,but still think they need to add more depth to their midfield.
But Florentino Perez never give money for Ancelotti to get new player on defender position how ever still not any deal with Varane keep staying or move to Manchester United. Now they less with experience defender after Ramos sign's with PSG. I think Alaba need time to get adaptation with La Liga atmosphere because this the first time for him. Many position need for Real Madrid from midfielder until forward but Perez never give money for coach to get new player and this reason why Zidane left Real Madrid.

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I've heard that Chelsea also have joined the race to sign Varane. Now, it seems like Chelsea, PSG and Manchester Utd are putting a good effort to bring Varane to the club. A few days ago, it was said that Manchester Utd and Varane agreed personal terms. But still there is no news more serious than it.

And Chelsea really surprise me. They are after Haaland also and willing to pay €175m to be able to sign him. To get Varane, they will have to sacrifice at least €50m. Do they really have this much budget now?

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I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?
How can you assume he won't contribute much because he wasn't young anymore? You look like very underestimate him. I am not a Barcelona fan, but I appreciate that Barcelona was successful to sign Aguero. He is one of the top strikers in the world that have many good histories in his career. All people know he has great skills and mentality as a striker. Assuming he won't contribute much is an unreasonable thing, you have no valid reason for this. You ignore the fact that he is one of the key players of Man City and Atletico Madrid in past. He is one of the players who had a big role in the success of the two clubs previously. Of course, he will do the same in Barcelona.
Age affects the style of play and you can't compare the style of play in the past and now because again, age will affect the style of play on the field. Look at how Ronaldo was at the end of his season with Juventus, Ronaldo's movements were not the same as when he was in the uniforms of Manchester United and Real Madrid. When Ronaldo played in these two teams, his movements were very agile, so he continued to make many movements that bothered the opponent, but now that he is no longer young, at least we can see a change in his playing style, which is just waiting for the ball. Therefore, I personally think a player with an age who is no longer young then of course he will not be as good as in the past even though his role on the field is still needed but still, a player with an old age will only be good for a motivation for his teammates.
Now that's what I mean, even though he used to be a top striker but now it's a different era. Last season, Aguero wasn't that important at Manchester city so I don't think it's as aggressive anymore like at Mancity and Atletico Madrid before, I think that one It's past and what we know since a long injury is that Aguero is no longer showing the good side of his game experience playing only as a substitute but that's how age always affects the style of play even though he has great experience being a top striker

But I don't know now at Barcelona because LaLiga hasn't started yet, if it's the same as other players then it's not the expectation of a coach who wants good skills.

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And Chelsea really surprise me. They are after Haaland also and willing to pay €175m to be able to sign him. To get Varane, they will have to sacrifice at least €50m. Do they really have this much budget now?

Although Chelsea won the Champions League last season, they did not do well in the Premier League. Their weakness was their weak forward. So they definitely need a skilled striker for next season. With Vaarane in the squad, Chelsea will be stronger. Chelsea may win another title next season.

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From the news I have heard, Real Madrid is not unwilling to sign players, they already have their radar and it looks like it will be difficult for them to get their targets, like Mbappe, they really want Mbappe at the moment, certainly not a decision for Mbappe to leave PSG.
I really don't know what's going on in Real Madrid. Without some good signings, I don't think Carlo Ancelotti will cope well enough. Zidane was good because there is a way he would utilize low class players too during the times of injuries. The Defense and attack could really use some good signings this summer. The Midfield is still perfect for another season.
Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.

Madrid is unpredictable we know their finances are indeed a crisis but I'm not sure they start the season without new players they really need new players especially strikers
Mbappe and Haaland are their targets, it's not easy but we'll see what they can do to get one of these players

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July 18, 2021, 06:44:47 PM
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I don't think real Madrid are in any pursuit for any prolific player except kylian mbappe, but I don't think he is leaving PSG this season, but Madrid has enough talent that they don't need an additional player in their ranks, when Real Madrid went back for zidane I really thought it wasn't a way forward for the Spanish team, and now they need a more qualified Coach than anything else, Madrid won't win a major trophy with zidane in charge.

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July 18, 2021, 06:45:42 PM
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And Chelsea really surprise me. They are after Haaland also and willing to pay €175m to be able to sign him. To get Varane, they will have to sacrifice at least €50m. Do they really have this much budget now?

Although Chelsea won the Champions League last season, they did not do well in the Premier League. Their weakness was their weak forward. So they definitely need a skilled striker for next season. With Vaarane in the squad, Chelsea will be stronger. Chelsea may win another title next season.

They had Werner but he wasn't able to meet the expectations of the team. He was such a disappointment after having a great season at Leipzig. He had a big difficulty in getting accustomed to the Premier League. He missed too many goal opportunities.

Now, Chelsea want to make up for this situation. It seems like they will sell Tammy Abraham. And they will do everything they can to bring Haaland here. If Haaland comes to Chelsea, I assume that they will use a tactic with one striker. Therefore, Werner will be his substitute then. Maybe this can incentivize Werner to play much better and we could see a productive performance from him also when he gets the chance to play.

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July 18, 2021, 07:14:32 PM
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Ronaldo changed from a wing back with good dribbling skills to become a striker. His chances are clearer after the transfer to Real Madrid. In Juventus, Ronaldo play more at left side and does more dribblings than in Real Madrid but he does no longer depend on his speed.
I believe Ronaldo still has that agility and power enough to play in most advance positions, I honestly think it was a manager decision to put him there, because he was the best player at that position and they still had other players for wings so it made more sense to put him at striker position, he did moved around freely to be honest, if dude saw a chance to be at right wing he took it so it wasn't like he was strictly forbidden to move anywhere else on the pitch hence why he wasn't even a proper striker, he was more like "any offensive position he sees fit" in most positions, you can see many highlights of him running on right lane like a winger as well, or left.

However I do agree that he aged a lot, even though he is still an awesome player, probably either best or one of the best even at his age, it is obvious that he is getting that age handicap and not as good as what he used to be.
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July 18, 2021, 07:34:27 PM
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I've heard that Chelsea also have joined the race to sign Varane. Now, it seems like Chelsea, PSG and Manchester Utd are putting a good effort to bring Varane to the club.
Chelsea Chelsea, are they trying to do another Pedro steal they did a few years ago when everyone was expecting him to go to old Trafford only to be told his destination was Stamford bridge, sorry not this one.

Varane seems like a secure deal for United and I don't see this changing  Roll Eyes!

And Chelsea really surprise me. They are after Haaland also and willing to pay €175m to be able to sign him. To get Varane, they will have to sacrifice at least €50m. Do they really have this much budget now?
Chelsea trying to build a super star team but honestly I don't think they have this kind of disposable funds to go after any player they feel they can get,but better than doing nothing it's better than not trying...good luck.

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July 18, 2021, 08:03:00 PM
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I've heard that Chelsea also have joined the race to sign Varane. Now, it seems like Chelsea, PSG and Manchester Utd are putting a good effort to bring Varane to the club. A few days ago, it was said that Manchester Utd and Varane agreed personal terms. But still there is no news more serious than it.

And Chelsea really surprise me. They are after Haaland also and willing to pay €175m to be able to sign him. To get Varane, they will have to sacrifice at least €50m. Do they really have this much budget now?
It seems like Haaland is not working out for Chelsea. But according to report today, Chelsea have Robert Lewandoskii as an alternative, if Haaland don't work out. And Chelsea are ready to give out £50m in exchange for the player.

While Varane have been the top target for Premier League clubs, Manchester United are close to sign the player. Although, either PSG or Chelsea might end up signing the player.   



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