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July 22, 2021, 06:36:48 AM
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or it will be a repeat of last season.

Looking at the signs of the madrid management movement, maybe this could happen. Without new players in the right positions, many players are approaching retirement and old age. If it's still like this, maybe many people are pessimistic about Madrid's results next season. Even though they have a new coach, the old players find it difficult to compete.

This is really what has me worried, it should be noted that Real Madrid is my favorite team in the Spanish League and that the fact that now it has these types of problems is something that is rare, I do not know if they will resort to the players trained from the quarry, but it is necessary that they quickly make a good substitution, many stars are in other teams, and Real Madrid by nature has always had a lot of money to buy any player, this time they left Sergio Ramos, with a new coach I imagine they will ask him for the best of the advice to buy, I do not think that Real Madrid will lower its level now that it has almost no new players but veterans.


I think that even a club like Real Madrid who are not backed by sheikhs if I am correct could get into trouble with the transfer fees these days. Ronaldo was 94 million and that was an unbelievable amount back at the time. These days when you want Haaland or Mbappe, we are probably talking in excess of 150 million. There aren't many other players available at the moment. I thought for a bit that Ronaldo going back to Madrid for two years would have been a good deal for them even if they had to pay 50 million or so to Juventus. Whatever they are going to do now, it will be extremely expensive for them.

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July 22, 2021, 06:53:35 AM
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I think that even a club like Real Madrid who are not backed by sheikhs if I am correct could get into trouble with the transfer fees these days. Ronaldo was 94 million and that was an unbelievable amount back at the time. These days when you want Haaland or Mbappe, we are probably talking in excess of 150 million. There aren't many other players available at the moment. I thought for a bit that Ronaldo going back to Madrid for two years would have been a good deal for them even if they had to pay 50 million or so to Juventus. Whatever they are going to do now, it will be extremely expensive for them.
Real Madrid have a new stadium that is under construction so they have to spend fund for the new stadium. They don't get troubles like Arsenal and can make big transfers. At least they have to choose players carefully because they can not overpay like years ago.

Real Madrid don't have tradition to use old players and treat them well. They will hardly accept the rrleturn of Ronaldo. Moreover, Perez and Ronaldo have conflict before the transfer of Ronaldo to Juventus. He will not come back, he does not want and Perez does not want to see Ronaldo in the club again.
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July 22, 2021, 07:41:13 AM
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But for the attacking line, they have two new players (CF), Aguero and Depay. If these new players can show their best performance, I think Barcelona can be more offensive this season. This can make Barcelona be stronger because the opposite teams only focus on defending during the match and hard to go to Barcelona defense line. However, it also surely depends on how Koeman can make a proper strategy and give motivation among players. Good players cannot bring good result if the coach decides bad playing strategy.


Aguero and Depay are good players no doubt their form before at Barcelona. In football it's not just the star players that give the results, and as you mentioned, whether the koeman strategy matches the player's character or not, or the player is able or not to carry out the koeman strategy. This is the most important. Or, Koeman is able or not to recognize his players to make a good strategy. Line by line, Barcelona might be better, but the result of the Barcelona match last season under Koeman was not so special, there are many things that have to be adjusted. However, for Ancelotti, he has managed Madrid before, at least he already has experience that might be applied to being successful with Madrid for the second time.

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July 22, 2021, 08:51:06 AM
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I think that even a club like Real Madrid who are not backed by sheikhs if I am correct could get into trouble with the transfer fees these days. Ronaldo was 94 million and that was an unbelievable amount back at the time. These days when you want Haaland or Mbappe, we are probably talking in excess of 150 million. There aren't many other players available at the moment. I thought for a bit that Ronaldo going back to Madrid for two years would have been a good deal for them even if they had to pay 50 million or so to Juventus. Whatever they are going to do now, it will be extremely expensive for them.
Real Madrid have a new stadium that is under construction so they have to spend fund for the new stadium. They don't get troubles like Arsenal and can make big transfers. At least they have to choose players carefully because they can not overpay like years ago.

Real Madrid don't have tradition to use old players and treat them well. They will hardly accept the rrleturn of Ronaldo. Moreover, Perez and Ronaldo have conflict before the transfer of Ronaldo to Juventus. He will not come back, he does not want and Perez does not want to see Ronaldo in the club again.

Hm I thought that at some press conference Ronaldo said something like "never say never" and he didn't look pissed or anything. That is not very long ago. A few months when there was a lot of stress at Juventus. I know about the trouble with Perez and so on, but I still thought it could be possible that they say ok let's go for a comeback and a 2 year contract.

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July 22, 2021, 09:18:42 AM
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Let's say that Barcelona signed Messi again. I wonder what the attacking trio will be in the starting eleven. If I were Barcelona's manager, I would prefer Griezmann - Aguero - Messi trio. This trio would be really deadly for their opponents. But there are also some rumours like Griezmann may leave the team and join Manchester City. But I think that it will not happen and he will stay.

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July 22, 2021, 09:26:13 AM
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Let's say that Barcelona signed Messi again. I wonder what the attacking trio will be in the starting eleven. If I were Barcelona's manager, I would prefer Griezmann - Aguero - Messi trio. This trio would be really deadly for their opponents. But there are also some rumours like Griezmann may leave the team and join Manchester City. But I think that it will not happen and he will stay.
Griezeman - Aguero - Messi or Depay - Aguero - Messi or Griezman - Aguero - Depay and Messi will play as an attacking midfielder. A play maker for Barcelona is what Messi does in recent seasons. Wit the appearance of Depay and Aguero, Messi can share his responsibility to other players and can play as more similar as a play maker.

I hope that Koeman will build up a new tactic for Barcelona and use Messi this way. It might help to avoid the overlap of positions between Messi and Griezman.

Midfield area will be reserved for Busquet, Messi and Pedri. Another version of Busquest - David - Iniesta. With Messi can score more goals than Xavi. Pedri is like Iniesta.
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July 22, 2021, 10:34:04 AM
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According to AS, Manchester Utd are really close to ending Varane deal in a few days successfully.
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Surprised by Madrid, after Ramos left Varane also left. Despite having a good coach, without new players I think it's difficult. Other news Hazard is also ready to return to Chelsea. Who will they buy for next season? They will struggle without a senior defender. I as a fan really doubt their performance for next season without Ramos replacement defender.
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July 22, 2021, 12:13:20 PM
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Surprised by Madrid, after Ramos left Varane also left. Despite having a good coach, without new players I think it's difficult. Other news Hazard is also ready to return to Chelsea. Who will they buy for next season? They will struggle without a senior defender. I as a fan really doubt their performance for next season without Ramos replacement defender.
Even though I'm a Barcelona supporter, I really don't like it if Real Madrid doesn't have players who can be relied on in various line, be it attackers, midfield or defense because almost every El-Clasico season is the match that football lovers have been waiting for in the world.

If Real Madrid is quite fragile in all respect, then El Clasico certainly will not be interesting to watch. However, it is possible that Real Madrid will buy some decent substitute to rely on in defense to be ready to start the competition well. Ramos, Varane, Hazard leaving? I don't think it's good for Real Madrid, although I know some people at Barcelona like it.
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July 22, 2021, 12:24:44 PM
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According to AS, Manchester Utd are really close to ending Varane deal in a few days successfully.
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Surprised by Madrid, after Ramos left Varane also left. Despite having a good coach, without new players I think it's difficult. Other news Hazard is also ready to return to Chelsea. Who will they buy for next season? They will struggle without a senior defender. I as a fan really doubt their performance for next season without Ramos replacement defender.
Alaba came. In addition, there is Nacho and Militao. Chust from Castilla will also be brought in. Next season we will see a lot of young players in Real Madrid. They won't buy anyone this summer. Mbappe's main goal. They will find money for it.) But PSG does not sell it.
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July 22, 2021, 12:57:57 PM
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Varane, Hazard leaving?

There's no official word on Varane and Hazard yet, I hear it's not certain but it's close to happening. I don't know Madrid's plans but they seem to have big plans for next season.

Seeing that their finances are not bad, they should have the courage to buy new players. Relying on academy players didn't seem like it would be enough. How anceloti plans are also not very clear, not much media has reported on his plans.

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July 22, 2021, 02:00:07 PM
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Seeing that their finances are not bad, they should have the courage to buy new players. Relying on academy players didn't seem like it would be enough. How anceloti plans are also not very clear, not much media has reported on his plans.

The last news I heard they wanted to sign Leon Goretzka from Bayern Munich, but it seems that what you said about their good financial situation was wrong, I even read on a local sports news portal that because they are having financial problems, they will go after Leon Goretzka if his contract expires at Bayern Munich on 30 June 2022.

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July 22, 2021, 02:10:43 PM
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It looks like Manchester Utd and Real Madrid both are trying to sign Leon Goretzka. He has only one year left on his contract. He is 26 years old and he is a quite valuable player for Bayern Munich. In the last season, he played in 32 games. He scored 8 goals and made 9 assists. I think that it's quite good for a central midfielder. He's played for 3 seasons there. And Bayern got him on a free transfer. His market value is now €70m. If they sell him for a price around his market value, it will be a huge profit for them.

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July 22, 2021, 02:38:57 PM
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There's no official word on Varane and Hazard yet, I hear it's not certain but it's close to happening.
That is, there is still a possibility to keep both of them if Ancelotti does not plan to recruit new players. Hazard may still be released to return to Chelsea because I don't see him making a big contribution to Real Madrid in recent seasons. But Varane, I don't think he should be let go even though Real Madrid can get new players.

Seeing that their finances are not bad, they should have the courage to buy new players. Relying on academy players didn't seem like it would be enough. How anceloti plans are also not very clear, not much media has reported on his plans.
If the transfer market has not closed, Ancelotti still has the opportunity to recruit a number of players to strengthen the team. It doesn't make sense that he has no plans for Real Madrid.
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July 22, 2021, 02:55:19 PM
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According to AS, Manchester Utd are really close to ending Varane deal in a few days successfully.
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Surprised by Madrid, after Ramos left Varane also left. Despite having a good coach, without new players I think it's difficult. Other news Hazard is also ready to return to Chelsea. Who will they buy for next season? They will struggle without a senior defender. I as a fan really doubt their performance for next season without Ramos replacement defender.
After all the news in months, Varane will join Manchester United, really? It would be a hole in Real Madrid defense system when two key central defenders leave the club, Ramos first and it seems Varane will move too.

Real Madrid signed with David Alaba to replace Ramos but who will replace Varane?

Little chance for Real Madrid got new player after heard and read article about Florentino Perez said not any new player coming in this window transfer. I think will the same like last year where Madrid not any new player except  Alaba coming as free transfer player, looks how seriously Mbappe want to be Real Madrid team but Florentino perez never waste money to buy great player and this reason why Zidane left Madrid.
They will try to sign with some players because Perez knows that bad results in a new season will make the financial budget much worse. He is smart enough to know that Real Madrid must have acceptable results in a new season. If results are bad, their income will fall down seriously and might be very harmful for the health of club's financial condition.

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July 22, 2021, 03:01:09 PM
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Time to see the new teams with solid foundations rise, and let the giants learn their lessons.
If under the pressure of a pandemic the giants are capable of breaking down, then what will happen to the clubs that do not have such big finances? I do not think that someone else will be able to fight for the championship in the Spanish championship, except for Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid.

I think the net effect is magnified. If you have a $100M wage bill, and you suffer half losses from revenue, then you maybe have to let go of a few big stars to get back $50M. But if you have $2 billion on your payroll, finding players to sell or take wage cuts to make up 1 billion in this market? Totally not possible.

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July 22, 2021, 03:05:35 PM
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Time to see the new teams with solid foundations rise, and let the giants learn their lessons.
If under the pressure of a pandemic the giants are capable of breaking down, then what will happen to the clubs that do not have such big finances? I do not think that someone else will be able to fight for the championship in the Spanish championship, except for Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid.

I think the net effect is magnified. If you have a $100M wage bill, and you suffer half losses from revenue, then you maybe have to let go of a few big stars to get back $50M. But if you have $2 billion on your payroll, finding players to sell or take wage cuts to make up 1 billion in this market? Totally not possible.

Ask Barca:P
Pandemic give bad effect many clubs right now not active when transfer window opening, only few club still exist to get new player with higher value like Manchester City and Paris Saint Germain, I see inactive on La Liga and Serie A team after many clubs not any budget to get new player with higher value, always waiting when player become free transfer to get their sign like Real Madrid with David Alaba and Barcelona with their player Depay and Kun Auero.

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David Alaba was introduced at Real Madrid, I'm curious how it goes for him at Real after an eternity at Bayern. He gets another number like at Bayern and in the Austrian national team. I did not know why you can not have a number above 25 in the Spanish league? Is there a historical background or was that simply decided at some point?

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July 22, 2021, 03:16:17 PM
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Fresh Copa América winner Rodrigo de Paul has now taken a one-way ticket to Madrid, as he'll move to Atlético until 2026. The Colchoneros have finalized the purchase of the Argentine with Udinese, where the italian team will collect 35 million euros from the deal. Never had the Friulani managed to get such a high figure from a transfer, not even when they released Márcio Amoroso for Parma or Alexis Sánchez for Barça.
And now, after a week according to Transfermarkt, Rodrigo's current value is already 40 million. Not bad.
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July 22, 2021, 03:33:36 PM
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David Alaba was introduced at Real Madrid, I'm curious how it goes for him at Real after an eternity at Bayern. He gets another number like at Bayern and in the Austrian national team. I did not know why you can not have a number above 26 in the Spanish league? Is there a historical background or was that simply decided at some point?

I just saw the news, and I was a bit surprised by Alaba's decision to use Sergio Ramos' jersey number at Real Madrid, Alaba is a Left Defender/Winger while Sergio Ramos is a Central Defender Cheesy

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July 22, 2021, 03:58:47 PM
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Let's say that Barcelona signed Messi again. I wonder what the attacking trio will be in the starting eleven. If I were Barcelona's manager, I would prefer Griezmann - Aguero - Messi trio. This trio would be really deadly for their opponents. But there are also some rumours like Griezmann may leave the team and join Manchester City. But I think that it will not happen and he will stay.
Griezeman - Aguero - Messi or Depay - Aguero - Messi or Griezman - Aguero - Depay and Messi will play as an attacking midfielder. A play maker for Barcelona is what Messi does in recent seasons. Wit the appearance of Depay and Aguero, Messi can share his responsibility to other players and can play as more similar as a play maker.

I hope that Koeman will build up a new tactic for Barcelona and use Messi this way. It might help to avoid the overlap of positions between Messi and Griezman.

Midfield area will be reserved for Busquet, Messi and Pedri. Another version of Busquest - David - Iniesta. With Messi can score more goals than Xavi. Pedri is like Iniesta.

Even if Koeman finds a way to give Griezman the room he needs to enfold his potential, he isn't the Griezman he used to be at Atletico Madrid anymore. When he played for Atletico he was an absolute world class striker. His strength was that he almost never missed a chance. It was impressive how he kept his coolness again and again. When you watch him at Barcelona now all of that coolness is gone. He isn't even average more in my opinion.

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