La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Karartma1]

Yesterday a lot of rumors about the negotiation happening between Sevilla and Chelsea for Jules Koundé. Contacts that have been going on for a long time and now it looks the deal's in an advanced stage. In fact, the player has given the ok to the transfer mainly for the possibility of playing in Champions League, and Kurt Zouma would be included in the exchange that would also consider a financial compensation in favor of Sevilla.

[lixer]

Several positive points that Barcelona Koeman came out of a very difficult season, starting with the disasters of the previous administration through the elections and ending with the ambiguity of the future of Messi, in the midst of all this I say several points that can be built upon for the future or for the new season at least, one of which is the discovery of Antoine Griezmann for sure,
Recently you feel that the player is starting to feel that he is part of the club's plans, even on an emotional level.
The player has already begun to feel that he is a key player in the team and Messi has always supported him when he was distracted and missed goals on the goal line and within reach.
Griezmann is at his level, there is no doubt that he A global player of a high lass, as they say, so his problem was never like this, but because the deal in terms of timing was not ideal because the environment at that time was not regulated in light of the accumulation of previous management problems, now it seems that we are promised with a different version of this.
This time based on the numbers of the last season and certainly in addition to the glow of the duo Pedri and Joker Frenkie de Jong.

Griezzman is a good news of course but Barcelona is much bigger of a club to really care about just one place, you have to realize that you will need a lot of youngsters that will rise through the ranks and make the team better. In this situation Ansu Fati comes to mind, is he as good as Messi? Nobody is as good as messi, but it is obvious that this kid has some big potential and definitely worth the money, so instead of focusing on the older players that could provide right now, maybe Barcelona needs to do something for the future and that could eventually turn out to be fruitful.

Remember the biggest problem Barcelona has right now is money and in order to make that money they have to play young players and either keep them so they do not have to spend so much on transfers, or they could even sell them in the future. For a team that has la masia, finding young stars should not be that hard.

[Trofo]

Yesterday a lot of rumors about the negotiation happening between Sevilla and Chelsea for Jules Koundé. Contacts that have been going on for a long time and now it looks the deal's in an advanced stage. In fact, the player has given the ok to the transfer mainly for the possibility of playing in Champions League, and Kurt Zouma would be included in the exchange that would also consider a financial compensation in favor of Sevilla.

Sounds like a good and logical deal for me. Chelsea gets an "upgrade" for the upcoming season and Sevilla still gets a very good defender and some money on top of it. Feel like this one will go trough.

Waiting to see how Barca saga ends, they really need to get rid of some high wages players to accommodate Messi new contract. Looking forward to see Pedri play this season, after great EURO performances and playing Olympic games he could be a bit tired at the beginning of the season but he is very young so should have a good recovery.

[sana54210]

This is still related to salary, because Barcelona is also experiencing a crisis due to the impact of this pandemic. So naturally, rumors of selling some players might be raised in the media, but with Griezmann willing to cut his salary even by 50% then that is certainly good news. Considering if Atletico are willing to pay Griezmann at the normal price, then of course Griezmann will move but because Griezmann's salary is very high and Atletico are not willing to pay that salary, Griezmann's return to Atletico does not happen instead Griezmann is willing to cut his salary to stay at Barcelona.

There is a third option that I think is not possible at all but at least it is a possibility. What if ATM paid Barcelona a decent amount, and then Griezmann took a salary cut to go to ATM? That way ATM could afford to get him and give him his salary as well, he wouldn't even have to cut his salary 50% in that case, a 25% cut would be enough I believe but if he does it 50% then it is all the better for Madrid to get him.

Barcelona just needs so much money so quickly before they start to suck big time, and they are playing Messi's final years and if they really want to keep him, being in this horrible economic situation is not the way for that, they really need a good roster right now before Messi retires or decides to leave, and in order to do that they can't just cut players salaries, they also need to sell some players to get more money and buy better players.

[DIA7]

This is still related to salary, because Barcelona is also experiencing a crisis due to the impact of this pandemic. So naturally, rumors of selling some players might be raised in the media, but with Griezmann willing to cut his salary even by 50% then that is certainly good news. Considering if Atletico are willing to pay Griezmann at the normal price, then of course Griezmann will move but because Griezmann's salary is very high and Atletico are not willing to pay that salary, Griezmann's return to Atletico does not happen instead Griezmann is willing to cut his salary to stay at Barcelona.

There is a third option that I think is not possible at all but at least it is a possibility. What if ATM paid Barcelona a decent amount, and then Griezmann took a salary cut to go to ATM? That way ATM could afford to get him and give him his salary as well, he wouldn't even have to cut his salary 50% in that case, a 25% cut would be enough I believe but if he does it 50% then it is all the better for Madrid to get him.

Barcelona just needs so much money so quickly before they start to suck big time, and they are playing Messi's final years and if they really want to keep him, being in this horrible economic situation is not the way for that, they really need a good roster right now before Messi retires or decides to leave, and in order to do that they can't just cut players salaries, they also need to sell some players to get more money and buy better players.

It's great that Greizman took the initiative to lower his salary but Umtiti ,Pjanic ,Alba do not want to reduce their salaries, as for Pjanic, he will probably goes back to Juve.
As for the rest, they should be thrown into the market. In Umtiti's area, I don't see an explanation for it.
while Messi accepts it on the basis that it is a fixed value and is originally a shaky player with no confidence in himself.
Barcelona suffers from Bartimio deposits of high salaries and long-term contracts, of course for those who do not deserve .

[DU18]

Yesterday a lot of rumors about the negotiation happening between Sevilla and Chelsea for Jules Koundé. Contacts that have been going on for a long time and now it looks the deal's in an advanced stage. In fact, the player has given the ok to the transfer mainly for the possibility of playing in Champions League, and Kurt Zouma would be included in the exchange that would also consider a financial compensation in favor of Sevilla.

Chelsea switch to Jules Kounde is an alternative step they take when the opportunity to get Erling Haaland from Dortmund is very small at the moment, we know that so far Erling Haaland has been Chelsea main transfer target to strengthen their attack line, but so far Chelsea are still having trouble signing the striker because the price is very expensive, so like it or not chelsea have to look for other transfer targets and including looking for a defender who can strengthen their defense next season, especially now that the EPL will start in three weeks so there is very little time left in the transfer market this year this and like it or not chelsea must be able to make the best use of the remaining time available in getting new players, in my opinion Jules Kunde is one of the most vital players for sevilla last season so it is very likely that sevilla will sell the player at a fairly expensive price and according to news Ju les Kunde has a release clause of 80 million Euros.

[kawetsriyanto]

I am not sure that the transfer of Mbappe will happen in the next transfer window, because Paris Saint-Germain, unlike for example Barcelona, has no problems with either finances or financial fair play and therefore can afford to play a risky game and not sell Mbappe now, hoping to convince the player to stay in the team and extend the contract later.

The point isn't about the money or financial situation of both clubs, but Mbappe seems no longer interested to stay in PSG. If PSG cannot convince him to sign his contract extension, then probably PSG will get nothing if Mbappe decides to leave in the next transfer window. In this situation, I assume PSG is better to sell Mbappe in this transfer window to have some transfer fees. PSG also can start to plan for a replacement for Mbappe as soon as possible. This will be effective than spending time to force Mbappe to stay.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I am not sure that the transfer of Mbappe will happen in the next transfer window, because Paris Saint-Germain, unlike for example Barcelona, has no problems with either finances or financial fair play and therefore can afford to play a risky game and not sell Mbappe now, hoping to convince the player to stay in the team and extend the contract later.

The point isn't about the money or financial situation of both clubs, but Mbappe seems no longer interested to stay in PSG. If PSG cannot convince him to sign his contract extension, then probably PSG will get nothing if Mbappe decides to leave in the next transfer window. In this situation, I assume PSG is better to sell Mbappe in this transfer window to have some transfer fees. PSG also can start to plan for a replacement for Mbappe as soon as possible. This will be effective than spending time to force Mbappe to stay.

From some media I have seen PSG are really betting on this they keep trying to hold mbappe while Madrid also understands the situation that it will not get mbappe this season
Madrid hope to get him free next season actually it's not a bad idea, it's just that Madrid have had to go through this season with a player crisis

[DIA7]

Marca addressed the Odegaard issue again.
The player who wants to be a key piece in Ancelotti's team, but is unable to play freely with a 4/3/3 plan and may not be able to snatch a place from the main trio in the squad.
There is talk of selling him permanently to Arsenal This summer, for me, my bet on Ancelotti was to turn the Norwegian into an important piece in a different position, like what happened with Di Maria on the tenth day.
I think they must make him stay as he still young and have potential to develop in another position.

[hd49728]

Marca addressed the Odegaard issue again.
The player who wants to be a key piece in Ancelotti's team, but is unable to play freely with a 4/3/3 plan and may not be able to snatch a place from the main trio in the squad.
There is talk of selling him permanently to Arsenal This summer, for me, my bet on Ancelotti was to turn the Norwegian into an important piece in a different position, like what happened with Di Maria on the tenth day.
I think they must make him stay as he still young and have potential to develop in another position.

Carlo Ancelotti can grow up player and discover a new position for them. He helped Pirlo to become one of greatest Italian players. Before the transfer to AC Milan, Pirlo got troubles to show his best skills under many coaches. Till the day Ancelotti put Pirlo into a new position in AC Milan.

Another example on how one player can be changed, that is Harry Kane in Spurs. Before the last season with Mourinho, we never seen great passing skills from Kane. With Mourinho, in the last season, Kane is a best assist player in Premier League. It is a great discovery from Mourinho.

I think if Odegaard stays in Real Madrid, at least one season, Ancelotti can help him.

[kawetsriyanto]

Madrid hope to get him free next season actually it's not a bad idea, it's just that Madrid have had to go through this season with a player crisis

Yep, it is a smart idea, but no guarantee to sign him in the next season. Except, Real Madrid has reached a personal agreement with Mbappe and also PSG management for the possibility of his transfer in the next season. I am sure Real Madrid management has considered everything to sign Mbappe, what I said before probably did by them.

Regarding the possibility of a player crisis this season, I don't think it really deserves to call a "crisis". Real Madrid still has many good players, especially in the attacking line, we should be so worried. There is Benzema, Bale, Hazard, Asensio, and Vinícius. Carlo Ancelotti just needs to optimize their performance with an effective strategy. The real problem is in the defense line, mate. They lose two key players, the strongest CB they have. I don't know if the current defenders are quite ideal to experience this season.

[AndySt]

Madrid hope to get him free next season actually it's not a bad idea, it's just that Madrid have had to go through this season with a player crisis

Yep, it is a smart idea, but no guarantee to sign him in the next season. Except, Real Madrid has reached a personal agreement with Mbappe and also PSG management for the possibility of his transfer in the next season. I am sure Real Madrid management has considered everything to sign Mbappe, what I said before probably did by them.
Regarding the possibility of a player crisis this season, I don't think it really deserves to call a "crisis". Real Madrid still has many good players, especially in the attacking line, we should be so worried. There is Benzema, Bale, Hazard, Asensio, and Vinícius. Carlo Ancelotti just needs to optimize their performance with an effective strategy. The real problem is in the defense line, mate. They lose two key players, the strongest CB they have. I don't know if the current defenders are quite ideal to experience this season.

A crisis can be called a situation when a team of the level of Real Madrid cannot win a single title   I am not sure that the arrival of a single player, even such a talented and promising one as Mbappe, can immediately lead Real Madrid to the title. At least, neither the French national team became the European champion, nor Paris Saint-Germain was able to win the Champions League. There is much more hope that Ancelotti will be able to fit existing players, such as Hazard and Bale, in a much more effective way, building a more trusting relationship with them. It's no secret that, for example, Zidane and Bale did not have a human relationship.

[kro55]

Madrid hope to get him free next season actually it's not a bad idea, it's just that Madrid have had to go through this season with a player crisis

Yep, it is a smart idea, but no guarantee to sign him in the next season. Except, Real Madrid has reached a personal agreement with Mbappe and also PSG management for the possibility of his transfer in the next season. I am sure Real Madrid management has considered everything to sign Mbappe, what I said before probably did by them.
Regarding the possibility of a player crisis this season, I don't think it really deserves to call a "crisis". Real Madrid still has many good players, especially in the attacking line, we should be so worried. There is Benzema, Bale, Hazard, Asensio, and Vinícius. Carlo Ancelotti just needs to optimize their performance with an effective strategy. The real problem is in the defense line, mate. They lose two key players, the strongest CB they have. I don't know if the current defenders are quite ideal to experience this season.

A crisis can be called a situation when a team of the level of Real Madrid cannot win a single title   I am not sure that the arrival of a single player, even such a talented and promising one as Mbappe, can immediately lead Real Madrid to the title. At least, neither the French national team became the European champion, nor Paris Saint-Germain was able to win the Champions League. There is much more hope that Ancelotti will be able to fit existing players, such as Hazard and Bale, in a much more effective way, building a more trusting relationship with them. It's no secret that, for example, Zidane and Bale did not have a human relationship.

Real Madrid have lost a skilled coach like Zidane. They have lost experienced defenders like Ramos and Varane. I don't think it will be profitable for them if they want to strengthen the forward without strengthening the defense. We saw Barcelona last season, despite strong forwards they could not perform well only due to weak defense.

[slaman29]

Carlo Ancelotti can grow up player and discover a new position for them. He helped Pirlo to become one of greatest Italian players. Before the transfer to AC Milan, Pirlo got troubles to show his best skills under many coaches. Till the day Ancelotti put Pirlo into a new position in AC Milan.

Another example on how one player can be changed, that is Harry Kane in Spurs. Before the last season with Mourinho, we never seen great passing skills from Kane. With Mourinho, in the last season, Kane is a best assist player in Premier League. It is a great discovery from Mourinho.

I think if Odegaard stays in Real Madrid, at least one season, Ancelotti can help him.

I have to agree here, Mou isn't as old and irrelevant as they say, he just has to change his overall team tactics and be a bit more positive but his player management is pretty good. Remember what he did for Eden Hazard as well. Kane's passing in EURO was magnificent BUT sometimes you also have to question if he was meant to be a provider as his best skill was in front of goal. Still, it was super to see him play those type of passing which was very low to the ground and splitting defence like crazy.

[DU18]

Marca addressed the Odegaard issue again.
The player who wants to be a key piece in Ancelotti's team, but is unable to play freely with a 4/3/3 plan and may not be able to snatch a place from the main trio in the squad.
There is talk of selling him permanently to Arsenal This summer, for me, my bet on Ancelotti was to turn the Norwegian into an important piece in a different position, like what happened with Di Maria on the tenth day.
I think they must make him stay as he still young and have potential to develop in another position.

Even though Ancelloti really wants Odegaard to stay at Real Madrid, the competition for the main position in the Madrid squad is not an easy thing for Odegaard, moreover Odegaard must be able to replace Luka Modric or Toni Kroos if he wants to be the main Madrid player at this time, and Odegaard must be aware if to replace the two midfielders is not an easy job, Apart from Modric and Kroos, the return of Dani Ceballos will also definitely make the competition in Madrid's midfield even more fierce even though his role with the ceballos is slightly different, now Odegaard must immediately take the right decision according to Me and it seems that moving to Arsenal is a good move now because then Odegaard can get the opportunity to be able to play regularly.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Madrid hope to get him free next season actually it's not a bad idea, it's just that Madrid have had to go through this season with a player crisis

Yep, it is a smart idea, but no guarantee to sign him in the next season. Except, Real Madrid has reached a personal agreement with Mbappe and also PSG management for the possibility of his transfer in the next season. I am sure Real Madrid management has considered everything to sign Mbappe, what I said before probably did by them.
Regarding the possibility of a player crisis this season, I don't think it really deserves to call a "crisis". Real Madrid still has many good players, especially in the attacking line, we should be so worried. There is Benzema, Bale, Hazard, Asensio, and Vinícius. Carlo Ancelotti just needs to optimize their performance with an effective strategy. The real problem is in the defense line, mate. They lose two key players, the strongest CB they have. I don't know if the current defenders are quite ideal to experience this season.

A crisis can be called a situation when a team of the level of Real Madrid cannot win a single title   I am not sure that the arrival of a single player, even such a talented and promising one as Mbappe, can immediately lead Real Madrid to the title. At least, neither the French national team became the European champion, nor Paris Saint-Germain was able to win the Champions League. There is much more hope that Ancelotti will be able to fit existing players, such as Hazard and Bale, in a much more effective way, building a more trusting relationship with them. It's no secret that, for example, Zidane and Bale did not have a human relationship.

Real Madrid have lost a skilled coach like Zidane. They have lost experienced defenders like Ramos and Varane. I don't think it will be profitable for them if they want to strengthen the forward without strengthening the defense. We saw Barcelona last season, despite strong forwards they could not perform well only due to weak defense.

In defense I'm sure Madrid have prepared it and so far there are several names who are ready to occupy the position David Alaba, Nacho Fernandez some players are still being targeted like Pau Torres. These players have almost the same abilities and capacities as Ramos and Varane.

[icopress]

A crisis can be called a situation when a team of the level of Real Madrid cannot win a single title [...]

In part you are right, because if Real were an ordinary team, you could simply forget about the results. But damn it Real'M is no ordinary team, (and now the pattern of failures outside the limits of their own league is clearly visible). I'm not sure what the matter is, but apparently Real is focusing on the skill of the players and not on the age. Since the average age of Real players is close to 30, and with such a composition, it is impossible to keep a high pace of the game for a long time. 

[abhiseshakana]

A crisis can be called a situation when a team of the level of Real Madrid cannot win a single title [...]

In part you are right, because if Real were an ordinary team, you could simply forget about the results. But damn it Real'M is no ordinary team, (and now the pattern of failures outside the limits of their own league is clearly visible). I'm not sure what the matter is, but apparently Real is focusing on the skill of the players and not on the age. Since the average age of Real players is close to 30, and with such a composition, it is impossible to keep a high pace of the game for a long time. 

Teams at the level of Real Madrid really should get a trophy, so when they fail to get it they will be labeled as a failed team. Their failure last season was due to their lack of consistency, when many of their players were injured, Zidane insisted to fight in two competitions (La Liga and Champions League). Instead of getting the title, they failed in both competitions. In my opinion, if they only focus on one competition, then their chances of getting the title will be greater.

[Juggy777]

A crisis can be called a situation when a team of the level of Real Madrid cannot win a single title [...]

In part you are right, because if Real were an ordinary team, you could simply forget about the results. But damn it Real'M is no ordinary team, (and now the pattern of failures outside the limits of their own league is clearly visible). I'm not sure what the matter is, but apparently Real is focusing on the skill of the players and not on the age. Since the average age of Real players is close to 30, and with such a composition, it is impossible to keep a high pace of the game for a long time. 

Teams at the level of Real Madrid really should get a trophy, so when they fail to get it they will be labeled as a failed team. Their failure last season was due to their lack of consistency, when many of their players were injured, Zidane insisted to fight in two competitions (La Liga and Champions League). Instead of getting the title, they failed in both competitions. In my opinion, if they only focus on one competition, then their chances of getting the title will be greater.

@abhiseshakana Zidane doesn’t have great man management skills, and that’s what forced Bale out of the club and had he worked with him then we would have seen a different result. Also partially I blame Hazard as he’s a liability at the club, and he’s done it again by reporting over weight at the club, and if Madrid want to win title now then they need to buy some quality player’s before the transfer window shuts.

Sources:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/hazard-real-madrid-ancelotti-fitness-24634192

https://tribuna.com/en/news/realmadrid-2020-09-18-no-one-likes-him-zinedine-zidanes-relationship-with-his-players-called-into-question/

[Lordhermes]

Marca addressed the Odegaard issue again.
The player who wants to be a key piece in Ancelotti's team, but is unable to play freely with a 4/3/3 plan and may not be able to snatch a place from the main trio in the squad.
There is talk of selling him permanently to Arsenal This summer, for me, my bet on Ancelotti was to turn the Norwegian into an important piece in a different position, like what happened with Di Maria on the tenth day.
I think they must make him stay as he still young and have potential to develop in another position.

Selling Odegard to Arsenal will be a welcome development to Arsenal FC and the entire fans because Odegard was one of their standout player in the second of last season.He is a quality player that Arsenal have been anticipating to buy since they don't have a good attacking midfielder,Odegard was tipped to succeed Mesut Ozil and produce wonderful assists.If he is unsettled at Madrid,then Arsenal are his possible destination.