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August 02, 2021, 06:58:45 AM
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There are only 13/14 days left to start the next season. Pogba's case is still completely uncertain. I heard a few days ago that he is not interested in staying at Manchester United. He wants to join the PSG squad. But so far we have not seen any accurate news.

Sometimes the media publish different news there is news that pogba agrees to stay in Manchester there is also said he will soon move to PSG
The real news will be seen on the last day So far the media is only speculating

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August 02, 2021, 08:05:19 AM
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There are only 13/14 days left to start the next season. Pogba's case is still completely uncertain. I heard a few days ago that he is not interested in staying at Manchester United. He wants to join the PSG squad. But so far we have not seen any accurate news.

Sometimes the media publish different news there is news that pogba agrees to stay in Manchester there is also said he will soon move to PSG
The real news will be seen on the last day So far the media is only speculating

I have seen a lot of news related to Pogba. But all rumors. No news portal provides credible news. But I would be happy if Pogba joins the PSG team. This team is now stable in all aspects. If there is a star midfielder, the team will be stronger. My guess is that PSG will win the next Champions League title if the coach is able to make the right bonding between the players.

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August 02, 2021, 09:26:16 AM
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Actually Pogba still stays at Man United this season but doesn't  not renew his contract for that Man United need to anticipate this
If Man United manages to sign Saul Niguez then it can be prepared for next season or as a substitute. BTW I heard Liverpool made an offer first.


Yes, Liverpool made an offer first, but Man United prepared more funds than Liverpool. There are rumors that Liverpool has prepared £40 million and Man United has also prepared £45 million for Saul Niguez.

You're right, for Man United, there should be no problem if they have to buy Saul Niguez without having to wait for Pogba to leave, moreover, Atletico Madrid is also needed income, so Saul Niguez might be sold at a reasonable price (or to whom will really intend to sign him).

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August 02, 2021, 10:27:29 AM
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Actually Pogba still stays at Man United this season but doesn't  not renew his contract for that Man United need to anticipate this
If Man United manages to sign Saul Niguez then it can be prepared for next season or as a substitute.
Saul Niguez is a good player and he can replace Pogba. Pogba is at higher level, especially in attacking ability. However, Saul brings more balance for midfield area and with Bruno and Sancho, Manchester United will not have to rely on Pogba for key passes.

Yes, Liverpool made an offer first, but Man United prepared more funds than Liverpool. There are rumors that Liverpool has prepared £40 million and Man United has also prepared £45 million for Saul Niguez.
It is not a big difference between two bids and Liverpool can increase their offer if they are really interested in Saul Niguez.

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You're right, for Man United, there should be no problem if they have to buy Saul Niguez without having to wait for Pogba to leave, moreover, Atletico Madrid is also needed income, so Saul Niguez might be sold at a reasonable price (or to whom will really intend to sign him).
I am not aware that Atletico Madrid really need income. Is it real? Where did you get the information that Atletico need money and have to sell Saul?
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August 02, 2021, 10:36:22 AM
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Pogba's gonna stay probably until January in England: many of you pointed out that he's not gonna sign a new contract with the Red Devils but he wants to keep the door open for a possible transfer in the middle of the season.
One thing's sure, he's not gonna sign for Juve or Psg but his next move is gonna be Spain
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August 02, 2021, 10:54:16 AM
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Actually Pogba still stays at Man United this season but doesn't  not renew his contract for that Man United need to anticipate this
If Man United manages to sign Saul Niguez then it can be prepared for next season or as a substitute.
Saul Niguez is a good player and he can replace Pogba. Pogba is at higher level, especially in attacking ability. However, Saul brings more balance for midfield area and with Bruno and Sancho, Manchester United will not have to rely on Pogba for key passes.

Yes, Liverpool made an offer first, but Man United prepared more funds than Liverpool. There are rumors that Liverpool has prepared £40 million and Man United has also prepared £45 million for Saul Niguez.
It is not a big difference between two bids and Liverpool can increase their offer if they are really interested in Saul Niguez.

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You're right, for Man United, there should be no problem if they have to buy Saul Niguez without having to wait for Pogba to leave, moreover, Atletico Madrid is also needed income, so Saul Niguez might be sold at a reasonable price (or to whom will really intend to sign him).
I am not aware that Atletico Madrid really need income. Is it real? Where did you get the information that Atletico need money and have to sell Saul?

Maybe he meant money for operational costs not like other clubs that were in a financial crisis, this step was taken because of Sual's desire to move
Saul and Diego Simeone have different visions at the moment so Atletico think this is the right moment to earn money.

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August 02, 2021, 11:50:43 AM
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Bale and Hazard are Perez's faulty passes. Tottenham and Chelsea worked hard to sell these players. You shouldn't expect them to be stable and good games. Peres should try to sell them and buy younger and more promising players.

Bale and Hazard are talented players. Real Madrid made no mistake in bringing them to the team. If their fitness problems could be fixed then we would get proof of their ability. Neymar also has a lot of fitness problems. PSG paid him a lot of high salaries, but Neymar could not play for almost half the season due to injury.
Bale used to be a good player and a good deal for Real Madrid years ago. In the latest seasons, he wasn't top anymore. Now under Ancelotti he has to prove himself again or he will be trashed like what happened to him under Zidane.
For Hazard, personally I find his contract a failure and disaster for Real Madrid regardless of his talent.
Neymar is unstable player yet he can add something to PSG, that doesn't mean that PSG could not find a better substitute than him.

Bale is definitely a talented player. And he has proven his skills many times in the past. I am hopeful that he will play well again under the leadership of Ancelotti. Moreover, no other striker of the team was successful in the previous season except Benzemaa. Ancelotti needs to use Benzema, Bale and Hazard properly this season.

Bale is a talented player and Azar is a talented player. But the problem is that these players spend most of the season in the infirmary or get in shape. During the season they play a maximum of ten matches and do not show anything in them. And then they get injured again. high salaries, and others play instead.
In two seasons, Hazard played 1705 minutes, gave 6 assists and scored 4 goals. "AS journalists have calculated that since Azar's transfer to Real in the summer of 2019, his goal cost Madrid 18.8 million euros, for every minute of the Belgian's playing time it cost 39 400 euros. Azar's salary is 30 million euros per year, excluding taxes and a 10 percent cut due to the pandemic."
In my opinion, it is unlikely that Azar and Bale will not be able to show their best game.
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August 02, 2021, 12:03:29 PM
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Bale is a talented player and Azar is a talented player. But the problem is that these players spend most of the season in the infirmary or get in shape. During the season they play a maximum of ten matches and do not show anything in them. And then they get injured again. high salaries, and others play instead.
In two seasons, Hazard played 1705 minutes, gave 6 assists and scored 4 goals. "AS journalists have calculated that since Azar's transfer to Real in the summer of 2019, his goal cost Madrid 18.8 million euros, for every minute of the Belgian's playing time it cost 39 400 euros. Azar's salary is 30 million euros per year, excluding taxes and a 10 percent cut due to the pandemic."
In my opinion, it is unlikely that Azar and Bale will not be able to show their best game.
Bale has a better health situation, not many injuries, but had very little playing time, so he was not able to fully reveal himself. As for Azar, the situation is very difficult here, injuries follow him and this is a very big problem, both for the player and for the club. For Real, the purchase of Azar is definitely a bad deal.

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August 02, 2021, 01:27:33 PM
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Bale has a better health situation, not many injuries, but had very little playing time, so he was not able to fully reveal himself. As for Azar, the situation is very difficult here, injuries follow him and this is a very big problem, both for the player and for the club. For Real, the purchase of Azar is definitely a bad deal.
His health is good enough but his mind is not well. He does not really want to expand his career after the contract expiration in Real Madrid.

Bale can play as a striker with his experience and shot accuracy. Much better than many young players but his teammates have to concentrate balls to Bale. I don't think coaches and big clubs will want to accept risks of Bale injury and build a tactic around him.

Azar, who is that player? I guess you implied about Hazard, didn't you?
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August 02, 2021, 02:50:44 PM
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Bale is a talented player and Azar is a talented player. But the problem is that these players spend most of the season in the infirmary or get in shape. During the season they play a maximum of ten matches and do not show anything in them. And then they get injured again. high salaries, and others play instead.
In two seasons, Hazard played 1705 minutes, gave 6 assists and scored 4 goals. "AS journalists have calculated that since Azar's transfer to Real in the summer of 2019, his goal cost Madrid 18.8 million euros, for every minute of the Belgian's playing time it cost 39 400 euros. Azar's salary is 30 million euros per year, excluding taxes and a 10 percent cut due to the pandemic."
In my opinion, it is unlikely that Azar and Bale will not be able to show their best game.
Bale has a better health situation, not many injuries, but had very little playing time, so he was not able to fully reveal himself. As for Azar, the situation is very difficult here, injuries follow him and this is a very big problem, both for the player and for the club. For Real, the purchase of Azar is definitely a bad deal.

Bale is a very good player. Zidane could not make proper use of Bale as a coach. Zidane is an experienced coach. If he had focused on Bale then Bale would have been able to better himself. Hopefully, Carlo Ancelotti will focus on Bale, and be able to make proper use of Bale.

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Bale had his fair share of glory but today you are giving him too much attention. He is a falling star, getting inconsistent season after season. Ancelotti does not look like the best coach for him right now because Carletto's football is very much different from the one that a player like Bale would require.
Zidane is a great coach, I believe Bale took it on a personal level not wanting to adapt to Zinedine's football. Too bad for him, the guy has lost some room to improve.
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Bale had his fair share of glory but today you are giving him too much attention. He is a falling star, getting inconsistent season after season. Ancelotti does not look like the best coach for him right now because Carletto's football is very much different from the one that a player like Bale would require.
Zidane is a great coach, I believe Bale took it on a personal level not wanting to adapt to Zinedine's football. Too bad for him, the guy has lost some room to improve.

I remember later, when I watched Bale play he was on par with Messi or Ronaldo. His was great gameplay. Lots of goals and assists. Gradually it began to fall. He suffered a lot of injuries, gradually losing his fitness. And at last, he didn't adapt himself to Zidane's strategy. His last hope at the moment is Ancelotti. If he can't adapt himself to Ancelotti's strategy, he can't fix fitness. Then we might see Bale retire very soon.

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Actually Pogba still stays at Man United this season but doesn't  not renew his contract for that Man United need to anticipate this
If Man United manages to sign Saul Niguez then it can be prepared for next season or as a substitute.
Saul Niguez is a good player and he can replace Pogba. Pogba is at higher level, especially in attacking ability. However, Saul brings more balance for midfield area and with Bruno and Sancho, Manchester United will not have to rely on Pogba for key passes.
I believe what Saul brings is not only that he is a good player, and we can argue if he is better or not but the reality is that dude is basically a regular human being, there is nothing we could be shocked about him, just a normal person like you and me, or any other player basically.

Pogba is so crazy and known to have a bit of a bipolar situation that it creates a bit of a tension in the team and I understand that even if he is a bit better player, I would rather have a regular human like Saul on my team instead of Pogba. On the other hand Liverpool ended up losing Wijnaldum whereas United didn't lose Pogba yet, which means that Liverpool could be a bit more aggressive about this.

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I remember later, when I watched Bale play he was on par with Messi or Ronaldo. His was great gameplay. Lots of goals and assists. Gradually it began to fall. He suffered a lot of injuries, gradually losing his fitness. And at last, he didn't adapt himself to Zidane's strategy. His last hope at the moment is Ancelotti. If he can't adapt himself to Ancelotti's strategy, he can't fix fitness. Then we might see Bale retire very soon.
Bale contract ends in June 2022 = at the age of 33, so this is his best shot for him to prove himself in order to renew his contract with Real Madrid for 1-2 years although I highly doubt about that or to find another suitable team. Retiring at the age of 33 with a catastrophic finish will teint his career and people will remember him as one of the worst player in Real Madrid regardless of his trophies with the team. His market value dropped x5 in less than 4 years.. Hopefully he will prove himself this season..

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I remember later, when I watched Bale play he was on par with Messi or Ronaldo. His was great gameplay. Lots of goals and assists. Gradually it began to fall. He suffered a lot of injuries, gradually losing his fitness. And at last, he didn't adapt himself to Zidane's strategy. His last hope at the moment is Ancelotti. If he can't adapt himself to Ancelotti's strategy, he can't fix fitness. Then we might see Bale retire very soon.
Bale contract ends in June 2022 = at the age of 33, so this is his best shot for him to prove himself in order to renew his contract with Real Madrid for 1-2 years although I highly doubt about that or to find another suitable team. Retiring at the age of 33 with a catastrophic finish will teint his career and people will remember him as one of the worst player in Real Madrid regardless of his trophies with the team. His market value dropped x5 in less than 4 years.. Hopefully he will prove himself this season..

I think that Real Madrid are not the only chance for Gareth Bale. Yes, he's had really good years there so far. But we saw how good he was at Tottenham in the last season. This proves that he can play at different teams and adapt quite easily. Of course I know that Bale was at Tottenham before he was transferred to Real Madrid. But I believe that Bale can have a decent performance at Manchester Utd too for example.

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 Bale has a better health situation, not many injuries, but had very little playing time, so he was not able to fully reveal himself. As for Azar, the situation is very difficult here, injuries follow him and this is a very big problem, both for the player and for the club. For Real, the purchase of Azar is definitely a bad deal.
it is very difficult for hazard now because we all know the storm of hazard injuries comes continuously besides that his performance is also very lacking for a player who is priced at 150 million euros. and i can say that the hazard that was predicted as a substitute for cristiano was one of the failed purchases made by real madrid

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August 02, 2021, 08:53:13 PM
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Bale contract ends in June 2022 = at the age of 33, so this is his best shot for him to prove himself in order to renew his contract with Real Madrid for 1-2 years although I highly doubt about that or to find another suitable team. Retiring at the age of 33 with a catastrophic finish will teint his career and people will remember him as one of the worst player in Real Madrid regardless of his trophies with the team. His market value dropped x5 in less than 4 years.. Hopefully he will prove himself this season..
There have been worse Real Madrid signings. I remember a one Jonathan Woodgate. I don't think he even made more than 10 appearances. Even Micheal Owen found had time at Real Madrid due to injuries.

Maybe Ancelotti will give him a chance since they were not on good terms with Zidane

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Bale had his fair share of glory but today you are giving him too much attention. He is a falling star, getting inconsistent season after season. Ancelotti does not look like the best coach for him right now because Carletto's football is very much different from the one that a player like Bale would require.
Zidane is a great coach, I believe Bale took it on a personal level not wanting to adapt to Zinedine's football. Too bad for him, the guy has lost some room to improve.
I remember later, when I watched Bale play he was on par with Messi or Ronaldo. His was great gameplay. Lots of goals and assists. Gradually it began to fall. He suffered a lot of injuries, gradually losing his fitness. And at last, he didn't adapt himself to Zidane's strategy. His last hope at the moment is Ancelotti. If he can't adapt himself to Ancelotti's strategy, he can't fix fitness. Then we might see Bale retire very soon.
Let's not put Bale on the same level as Ronaldo and Messi. I don't like how Zidane treated Bale, with all the great respect for Zidane as a player and as a coach who managed to lead this squad to Champions League titles, but still Messi and Ronaldo are a completely different level and we will begin to understand this only after the completion of their magnificent careers. Messi is a football Mozart who, thanks to the wonders of modern pharmacology, was able to overcome his small stature and his brilliant talent and faith in him of a big club like Barcelona achieved great results. Ronaldo, on the other hand, achieved everything himself with hard work and the development of his above-average level to cosmic peaks.
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it is very difficult for hazard now because we all know the storm of hazard injuries comes continuously besides that his performance is also very lacking for a player who is priced at 150 million euros. and i can say that the hazard that was predicted as a substitute for cristiano was one of the failed purchases made by real madrid

Many good players from their original clubs played badly when they arrived at Madrid.
They also don't have many injuries, from the club they came from. This has been proven and it's not just Hazard. It seems that there should be an evaluation program for his training or other activities. Huh

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August 02, 2021, 11:56:49 PM
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Azar, who is that player? I guess you implied about Hazard, didn't you?
I am also not familiar with that name. Yep, it looks like he wants to say "Hazard". It is funny to see someone called Azar, seems a bit strange to me. But no problem, it may be his special nickname for Eden Hazard.  Cheesy

Many good players from their original clubs played badly when they arrived at Madrid.
IMO, the main reason is the time to play. Many new players can't get enough time to show their best performance. Moreover, if the player cannot play well at his debut. Also, the new players should compete with their senior in the same position there. If their senior showed better performance, a new player will be at the bench for a longer time.


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