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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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August 06, 2021, 09:18:50 PM
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I honestly think that this is the best case for Barcelona and its future, people are sad that he is leaving and I understand it, of course it is something sad for the football world to see him leave, but at the same time he was a very expensive player getting way too much salary. They were also very dependent on Messi as well, they organized the whole roster according to him, which was a very difficult thing to do and that is why this is much better.

Now they will get financially better, they will find ways to sell some players, get cheaper and younger untested players, maybe find some youth players like Ansu Fati, and in a few years they will financially be great again to buy any player they want. Without Messi they are financially in a situation to be better quicker, with Messi things were not looking good anyway, not like they were doing everything great.

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August 06, 2021, 09:28:27 PM
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Aguero come, Messi goes. Something really strange happened in Barcelona and La Liga this time around.
It is not strange, it is how Barcelona already prepares everything before Messi goes. I think Barcelona already knows if Messi is very possible to leave this season, so they signed Aguero to replace Messi's role if it really happens. And now, when Barcelona must admit to having no Messi in their squad anymore, they already have another top superstar, Aguero. At least, the power of Barcelona attacking won't decrease so much.

without Messi then I think Laliga will be a less attractive league.
Yes, I agree. Without Ronaldo and Messi, La Liga is nothing. The remaining top players in La Liga now cannot replace the popularity of those two legends. I suspect La Liga popularity will drop massively this season. Football fans around the world will prefer to watch EPL, Serie A, or Ligue 1.


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August 06, 2021, 09:31:59 PM
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It looks like Aguero is really mad that Messi has officially left the club. He has come to Barcelona for Messi. And now it looks like Aguero wants to leave also. I wonder whether they will be able to calm Aguero and keep him at the club. But I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves still.  

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August 06, 2021, 09:59:21 PM
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It looks like Aguero is really mad that Messi has officially left the club. He has come to Barcelona for Messi. And now it looks like Aguero wants to leave also. I wonder whether they will be able to calm Aguero and keep him at the club. But I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves still.  

I dont think Aguero can leave Barcelona now.He has signed a contract with them so i think even if he wants to leave he cant.Messi leaving the club is probobly the biggest news in this summer transfer window.I think he will join PSG but still the French league is really weak.Would like to see him in the Premier league.
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August 06, 2021, 10:17:42 PM
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I would really like to see Messi performing in the English Premier League as it is the most challenging league in Europe I think. So I would expect him to go to Manchester City. But Guardiola doesn't seem to be thinking of this transfer. That's why I started thinking that PSG are closer to signing him soon. PSG are a really strong team but their league is so boring to me. It is not too competitive.

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August 06, 2021, 11:17:31 PM
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I am very surprised by the news that Messi has decided not to renew his contract at Barcelona. This is very bad news for the supporters and also for the team itself. Without Messi it looks like Barcelona will only be a team that is not reckoned with like it used to be and Laliga will soon be replaced by other leagues in Europe. Messi's current situation is really bad to hear, however I would still like to see him retire at Barcelona instead of playing for another team next season.
No. It is not because of Messi but it is caused by Barcelona. Laporta said in the press conference that Messi did not challenge or create any difficulty to Barcelona when they discussed withal each other in order to renew a contract for Messi.
Barcelona have a bad balance sheet and can not meet criteria from La Liga if they registered Messi in the team for a new season. Laporta also said that it is unrealistic to hope that La Liga will change their rules just because of Messi.
Additionally, Barcelona planned to sign a two year contract with Messi only, but salary will be paid in 5 years. Even so, they still failed to deal with La Liga.
Yes, of course, Messi meant a lot and means a lot for Barcelona, but it turned out that it was in the interests of Barcelona to close this glorious page and focus on solving difficult financial problems. Otherwise, the situation could have developed that for the sake of signing Messi, the club would have driven itself into an even bigger hole. No one wanted such an end to the relationship between Barcelona and Messi, but that's life. The club will certainly lose in marketing due to the absence of such a famous player, but I don't think that Barcelona will cease to be a team claiming the highest titles just because of this. The whole game of the team was built through Messi and it may be even better that the club will start rebuilding the club game now, and not in a few years.
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August 06, 2021, 11:30:13 PM
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It was a really bad deal for Barcelona anyway. It is better for them to start fresh than to agree to another 2-3 years of insane wages for a player who is 34 years old - no matter how good or important he is for them.

If Barcelona had money, they would have kept him. But they were potentially risking the future of the club with that deal, so the league actually saved them by not allowing them to make it.

Barcelona hoped to sell some players but that proved to be difficult in current market conditions. I'm also a bit sad about Aguero, he joined only because he wanted to play with Messi.

An end of an era for Barcelona.

This "Post Messi Era" was bound to happen as some point already, and it really couldn't have for too long. The earlier the get started, the better it is for the club, It's really unfortunate the way the whole turned out, it was a shit show for Barcelona, but I really believe the team would adjust properly in due time.

I'm on the other hand glad that Aguero had already signed for Barcelona, because it would have been pretty awful to play without Messi (the major goal scorer) and yet have not recognized centre forward or someone prolific enough to lead the force.

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August 07, 2021, 03:28:27 AM
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Actually in this situation who is really to blame, Messi, Laliga rule or Barcelona? I also heard rumor that after Messi left, Aguero and some of their new players could also leave because of the tour. I really want to know if the same situation will be faced with some Real Madrid players. It would be ridiculous to watch Laliga if more and more star players moved to other league.

Now Ligue1 will be even more popular because of Messi's arrival at PSG. A new trio will be formed (Messi, Neymar, Mbappe) to allow PSG to win the 2021/22 Champions League title.

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August 07, 2021, 04:23:46 AM
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About Messi's decision that changed from before, where previously Messi was willing to stay at Barcelona by reducing his salary, but before the league started it turned out that new news emerged about Messi who would leave Barcelona. With a decision like this I'm not sure Barcelona will be able to win the title this season, because before I was sure if Messi stayed at Barcelona then of course Barcelona's chance to get the title this season is very big. Sad

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August 07, 2021, 06:15:25 AM
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Actually in this situation who is really to blame, Messi, Laliga rule or Barcelona? I also heard rumor that after Messi left, Aguero and some of their new players could also leave because of the tour.
Barcelona are responsible for it but how long has the Financial Fair Play in La Liga been applied? Is it changed or updated recently? If it is in effects long time ago, Barcelona would be aware of the law when they discussed the new contract with Messi.

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I really want to know if the same situation will be faced with some Real Madrid players. It would be ridiculous to watch Laliga if more and more star players moved to other league.
La Liga should not launch a local Financial Fair Play that harm their league and local clubs. Real Madrid might have worse financial sheet than Barcelona and salary budget because they are constructing a new stadium. Perhaps, they have better income from 3 Champions League titles.

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Now Ligue1 will be even more popular because of Messi's arrival at PSG. A new trio will be formed (Messi, Neymar, Mbappe) to allow PSG to win the 2021/22 Champions League title.
Pep Guardiola said Manchester City have belief in Grealish and they don't need Messi even they can sign with him as a free player. Hence PSG is the only destination for Messi.

About Messi's decision that changed from before, where previously Messi was willing to stay at Barcelona by reducing his salary, but before the league started it turned out that new news emerged about Messi who would leave Barcelona. With a decision like this I'm not sure Barcelona will be able to win the title this season, because before I was sure if Messi stayed at Barcelona then of course Barcelona's chance to get the title this season is very big. Sad
I read news that Barcelona are strugging to register Aguero and Depay in their squad for La Liga, because of salary budget and the hell Financial Fair Play in La Liga. It's my agreement that they will begin a new season with a storm and even worse than the La Liga 2020 - 2021. Atletico Madrid looks to be the best candidate in a new season.

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August 07, 2021, 07:04:09 AM
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About Messi's decision that changed from before, where previously Messi was willing to stay at Barcelona by reducing his salary, but before the league started it turned out that new news emerged about Messi who would leave Barcelona. With a decision like this I'm not sure Barcelona will be able to win the title this season, because before I was sure if Messi stayed at Barcelona then of course Barcelona's chance to get the title this season is very big. Sad
Messi was willing to stay back at Barcelona. He even agreed to reduce he salary by 50 percent, but unfortunately, the team won't be able to keep him because of the financial difficulties they are currently facing. He was very productive to the club. According to Report, PSG are making plans about signing him.



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August 07, 2021, 09:42:33 AM
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About Messi's decision that changed from before, where previously Messi was willing to stay at Barcelona by reducing his salary, but before the league started it turned out that new news emerged about Messi who would leave Barcelona. With a decision like this I'm not sure Barcelona will be able to win the title this season, because before I was sure if Messi stayed at Barcelona then of course Barcelona's chance to get the title this season is very big. Sad
Messi was willing to stay back at Barcelona. He even agreed to reduce he salary by 50 percent, but unfortunately, the team won't be able to keep him because of the financial difficulties they are currently facing. He was very productive to the club. According to Report, PSG are making plans about signing him.

@blackened515 I don’t know why but I feel that this was a planned script, Messi got his revenge by removing the ex president, the current president promised Messi to allow him to part in a way which would not look bad on Messi, and in the process he removed Messi’s huge wages from the club bill so a win - win for them.

Also I know many won’t agree with my words, but according to Barcelona they suddenly realised at this stage of the window that it was not possible to keep Messi, and this is a ridiculous claim but they accept us to believe it that they didn’t know about their own financial situation till now.

Read This:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/why-did-lionel-messi-leave-barcelona-explain-what-happened/1dwtnwr31kcox1qki0fueupe64
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August 07, 2021, 10:05:03 AM
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One of the last friendlies for Pellegrini's Betis, who will be engaged this evening in Seville against Mourinho's Roma. The Special One can't make any more experiments while on the other hand, Betis, who last year finished sixth in La Liga, thus qualifying for the Europa League, have every intention of giving joy to their fans who'll be at the stadium tonight. In fact, the match foresees the presence of at least 14 thousand spectators. There will be many goals and maybe Roma will win.
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August 07, 2021, 10:13:38 AM
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Messi was willing to stay back at Barcelona. He even agreed to reduce he salary by 50 percent, but unfortunately, the team won't be able to keep him because of the financial difficulties they are currently facing. He was very productive to the club. According to Report, PSG are making plans about signing him.
I see the willingness to stay in Barcelona from Messi but what I failed to understand is, How did Barcelona not know their problems and only announced it at the end?

They should know about it when they were discussing with Messi about a new contract. It is dishonest announcement from Barcelona. Messi deserves all respect from all his contributions in more than 21 years and at very late days, he still wanted to contribute to the club he loves so much.

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August 07, 2021, 11:33:01 AM
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About Messi's decision that changed from before, where previously Messi was willing to stay at Barcelona by reducing his salary, but before the league started it turned out that new news emerged about Messi who would leave Barcelona. With a decision like this I'm not sure Barcelona will be able to win the title this season, because before I was sure if Messi stayed at Barcelona then of course Barcelona's chance to get the title this season is very big. Sad
Messi was willing to stay back at Barcelona. He even agreed to reduce he salary by 50 percent, but unfortunately, the team won't be able to keep him because of the financial difficulties they are currently facing. He was very productive to the club. According to Report, PSG are making plans about signing him.
Barcelona not have enough money to pay Messi and he got bigger salary from other club and he will continues destination on new league, most predict PSG become new club for Lionel Messi and they have great trio right now as Neymar, Mbappe and Messi. I think PSG most powerful club right now after success got Donnaruma, Sergio  Ramos and Wijnaldum by free transfer, this second time PSG take Barcelona chance after Wijnaldum rumor to Barcelona but deal with PSG.

Barcelona can pay Messi's money, he agreed to a salary cut in half. It's just that the salary limit in Barcelona is too low. And in order to sign Messi, it had to be reduced. But Laporta did not succeed. The players they wanted to sell, did not left the club. But Barcelona cannot sign new players. Depai, Aguero and others are in limbo.
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August 07, 2021, 11:53:54 AM
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Barcelona can pay Messi's money, he agreed to a salary cut in half. It's just that the salary limit in Barcelona is too low. And in order to sign Messi, it had to be reduced. But Laporta did not succeed. The players they wanted to sell, did not left the club. But Barcelona cannot sign new players. Depai, Aguero and others are in limbo.
Barcelona recorded a half a billion dollar loss last season. The La Liga has a wage limit this season that means Barcelona cannot pay what Messi wants. Barcelona are a mismanaged club right from the top down to the bottom and if they are not careful they could be witnessing a fall of a giant. Losing Messi who has been there for over 10 years is wrong and they should be looking to offload other players wages instead of Messi. Losing Messi will impact the other players that at the club and seeing a legend like that lost for free will not be received well.

Barcelona should have offered the players they was looking to sell for less just to secure the icon Messi. They failed they failed their fans and they failed themselves. Barcelona will not be near the title for the next couple of years and that means they will continue losing money. They are not going to win the champions league which means they will go without any achievement for the next 5 years at least. If they are losing half a billion dollars every season just do the math they will be in a dire situation. Messi was their light in the darkness because he is capable of winning titles even with a lackluster team behind him.
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August 07, 2021, 12:18:22 PM
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Barcelona can pay Messi's money, he agreed to a salary cut in half. It's just that the salary limit in Barcelona is too low. And in order to sign Messi, it had to be reduced. But Laporta did not succeed. The players they wanted to sell, did not left the club. But Barcelona cannot sign new players. Depai, Aguero and others are in limbo.
Barcelona recorded a half a billion dollar loss last season. The La Liga has a wage limit this season that means Barcelona cannot pay what Messi wants. Barcelona are a mismanaged club right from the top down to the bottom and if they are not careful they could be witnessing a fall of a giant. Losing Messi who has been there for over 10 years is wrong and they should be looking to offload other players wages instead of Messi. Losing Messi will impact the other players that at the club and seeing a legend like that lost for free will not be received well.

Barcelona should have offered the players they was looking to sell for less just to secure the icon Messi. They failed they failed their fans and they failed themselves. Barcelona will not be near the title for the next couple of years and that means they will continue losing money. They are not going to win the champions league which means they will go without any achievement for the next 5 years at least. If they are losing half a billion dollars every season just do the math they will be in a dire situation. Messi was their light in the darkness because he is capable of winning titles even with a lackluster team behind him.

DO NOT dramatize the situation. Barcelona was before Messi, will be after Messi. Now the team has good players. In the future, top players will come to Barcelona. One or two seasons without trophies is normal for a team that is rebuilt. Messi's departure will save Barcelona a lot of money. minus - it should have been sold a year ago, and not released for free today.
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August 07, 2021, 02:01:11 PM
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It seems like Sergio Aguero wants to leave Barcelona as soon as possible because of the departure of Messi. Aguero accepted to go to Barcelona because of him. But now, he is not at the team anymore. In this situation, why would Aguero want to stay at Barcelona anymore? So, I'm not against his decision. But it is going to be really weird to see Aguero leaving after not much time passed since he came here.

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August 07, 2021, 03:09:50 PM
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It seems like Sergio Aguero wants to leave Barcelona as soon as possible because of the departure of Messi. Aguero accepted to go to Barcelona because of him. But now, he is not at the team anymore. In this situation, why would Aguero want to stay at Barcelona anymore? So, I'm not against his decision. But it is going to be really weird to see Aguero leaving after not much time passed since he came here.
Terminating his contract at this crucial stage would make him a villain. If he is really unhappy with the team because his best friend has left, he could continue there for one or two seasons and leave for another club. He knows better, but I don't think Barcelona will allow him leave easily without a good replacement. By the way, Athelictico will continue dominating the league for a long time.
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August 07, 2021, 03:18:17 PM
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why would Aguero want to stay at Barcelona anymore?

Are you sure Aguero moved to Barcelona because of Messi? Soccer Is Actually Not A Children's Film That Is More Important In Friendship Cheesy

After all, which club wants to sign Aguero Huh I hope that with the departure of Messi, Barcelona's style can be better after not relying on Messi anymore Cool

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