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September 03, 2021, 07:48:14 PM
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In football usually, the number 10 is given to the star player of a team, who acts as the team's playmaker or attacking midfielder and of course one of the players who can wear the number 10 is a player who is very influential in the team, I think Barcelona should prefer senior players to wear the number 10 instead of having to give it to fati who is still young and has not proven his quality so far.

I agree with you about this. Ansu Fati is a really talented player as it seems and he is only 18 years old. He can become a world-star player in the future as long as he continues to develop at Barcelona by finding chances in the starting eleven. But I think that he doesn't deserve the number 10 as he is very young now. The number 10 is not an unimportant thing for the team. It is actually the opposite. It is given to playmakers mostly but to experienced ones.
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September 03, 2021, 11:58:05 PM
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In football usually, the number 10 is given to the star player of a team, who acts as the team's playmaker or attacking midfielder and of course one of the players who can wear the number 10 is a player who is very influential in the team, I think Barcelona should prefer senior players to wear the number 10 instead of having to give it to fati who is still young and has not proven his quality so far.
I agree with you about this. Ansu Fati is a really talented player as it seems and he is only 18 years old. He can become a world-star player in the future as long as he continues to develop at Barcelona by finding chances in the starting eleven. But I think that he doesn't deserve the number 10 as he is very young now. The number 10 is not an unimportant thing for the team. It is actually the opposite. It is given to playmakers mostly but to experienced ones.
You're Right, Apart from Being a Playmaker, the other thing is that the player with the number 10 back should be the player who becomes the icon of the team. For this Barcelona case I prefer Philippe Coutinho to use the Number 10, for no other reason than he is a playmaker & plays very well in that position, Or if we want something even more iconic, Sergio Busquets should have worn the number 10, because he's an old player there. However, his position as a defensive midfielder is not suitable for using this number.

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September 04, 2021, 02:29:31 AM
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At least giving time to try is better than nothing just like what messi did when he first entered the Barcelona senior team.
Giving time to be Messi's successor doesn't mean to hurry giving number 10 to Fati. I think it will be wise to keep number 10 this season, and just consider giving number 10 to Fati in the next season if he is really successful to replace Messi's role on the team this season. Barcelona can evaluate it after this season ends, not hurry to give it before he can show us that he deserves it. Previously, Messi didn't suddenly get number 10 when he entered the senior team. He got the number 10 after several seasons he played on the senior team. He showed that he deserved it first before he got it.


Barca are really making their number 10 shirt Iconic,I thought they will give it to anybody of their choice when Messi left,after all,the player has already gone to another club,but it seems they really want to make the number special to a special player.

The truth is that Messi can never be replaced at FC Barca.They can play very well as a team,but his personality and contribution to the team can never be replaced,so I think giving the shirt number to any player can solve that all.Memphis Depay is there,they can give him.
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September 04, 2021, 06:34:57 AM
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At least giving time to try is better than nothing just like what messi did when he first entered the Barcelona senior team.
Giving time to be Messi's successor doesn't mean to hurry giving number 10 to Fati. I think it will be wise to keep number 10 this season, and just consider giving number 10 to Fati in the next season if he is really successful to replace Messi's role on the team this season. Barcelona can evaluate it after this season ends, not hurry to give it before he can show us that he deserves it. Previously, Messi didn't suddenly get number 10 when he entered the senior team. He got the number 10 after several seasons he played on the senior team. He showed that he deserved it first before he got it.


Barca are really making their number 10 shirt Iconic,I thought they will give it to anybody of their choice when Messi left,after all,the player has already gone to another club,but it seems they really want to make the number special to a special player.

The truth is that Messi can never be replaced at FC Barca.They can play very well as a team,but his personality and contribution to the team can never be replaced,so I think giving the shirt number to any player can solve that all.Memphis Depay is there,they can give him.

Depay is not a graduate of the club. Laporta now wants to repeat the success of his first presidency in Barcelona. To attract more players from LaMassia to the team. Let's see if he succeeds this time. And maybe that's why they gave the 10th number to Fati. There is talk that we have already reached an agreement with Olmo from Leizpig, who is also a pupil of the club.
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September 04, 2021, 06:57:01 AM
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At least giving time to try is better than nothing just like what messi did when he first entered the Barcelona senior team.
Giving time to be Messi's successor doesn't mean to hurry giving number 10 to Fati. I think it will be wise to keep number 10 this season, and just consider giving number 10 to Fati in the next season if he is really successful to replace Messi's role on the team this season. Barcelona can evaluate it after this season ends, not hurry to give it before he can show us that he deserves it. Previously, Messi didn't suddenly get number 10 when he entered the senior team. He got the number 10 after several seasons he played on the senior team. He showed that he deserved it first before he got it.


Barca are really making their number 10 shirt Iconic,I thought they will give it to anybody of their choice when Messi left,after all,the player has already gone to another club,but it seems they really want to make the number special to a special player.

The truth is that Messi can never be replaced at FC Barca.They can play very well as a team,but his personality and contribution to the team can never be replaced,so I think giving the shirt number to any player can solve that all.Memphis Depay is there,they can give him.

Depay is not a graduate of the club. Laporta now wants to repeat the success of his first presidency in Barcelona. To attract more players from LaMassia to the team. Let's see if he succeeds this time. And maybe that's why they gave the 10th number to Fati. There is talk that we have already reached an agreement with Olmo from Leizpig, who is also a pupil of the club.

I feel it’s a bad move for Fati if he takes the number 10 shirt, because that’ll put unnecessary burden of expectations on him hence he should not take it. Also I agree that Deepay is not from their academy, but he deserves it for two seasons before Fati is mature enough to wear that number shirt.
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September 04, 2021, 07:00:15 AM
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Depay is not a graduate of the club. Laporta now wants to repeat the success of his first presidency in Barcelona. To attract more players from LaMassia to the team. Let's see if he succeeds this time. And maybe that's why they gave the 10th number to Fati. There is talk that we have already reached an agreement with Olmo from Leizpig, who is also a pupil of the club.
Depay is a short term plan for Barcelona and he is there because the coach is Koeman. The future of Koeman is uncertain and if he has to leave the club, Depay will have not too good future there.

Dani Olmo is a very good player and I am impressed with what he shown in Euro 2020. He is one of most important players for Spain in that tournament.

Barca are really making their number 10 shirt Iconic,I thought they will give it to anybody of their choice when Messi left,after all,the player has already gone to another club,but it seems they really want to make the number special to a special player.

The truth is that Messi can never be replaced at FC Barca.They can play very well as a team,but his personality and contribution to the team can never be replaced,so I think giving the shirt number to any player can solve that all.Memphis Depay is there,they can give him.
It would be a bad decision because Ansu Fati will have to play with pressure on his shoulders. Remember Messi has a few seasons in main squad before he was given the number 10 from Ronaldinho.

Ansu Fati has less contributions and less experience in main squad than Messi. I think his talent is less than Messi too. Depay can be a good choice but decision was made so let's hope that career of Ansu won't be damaged just because he inherited the number 10 from Messi.

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September 04, 2021, 07:18:12 AM
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I think that a jersey number like 10 carries big importance for the player who wears it. It lays a burden on the player that he needs to be a really good playmaker. That player should be at the centre of the focus of the team. Most of the attacks should go over him. So, number 10 is really critical for a team. And I'm not sure if it is the right thing to give it to Fati already. He is only 18 and he needs to be more experienced to deserve this jersey.
In football usually, the number 10 is given to the star player of a team, who acts as the team's playmaker or attacking midfielder and of course one of the players who can wear the number 10 is a player who is very influential in the team, I think Barcelona should prefer senior players to wear the number 10 instead of having to give it to fati who is still young and has not proven his quality so far.
I don't also think the number is good for Fati to wear. He is still very young and not experienced enough to wear the number 10. He will probably end up putting more pressure on himself when playing. They should have given it to a senior player with a lot of Football experience. I think Memphie Delay should have wore the number 10.

 
The truth is that Messi can never be replaced at FC Barca.They can play very well as a team,but his personality and contribution to the team can never be replaced,so I think giving the shirt number to any player can solve that all.  
Messi was a blessing to Barcelona. And he contributed greatly to the team. I don't think Barca can ever get another player like him. He scored 672 goals in Barcelona. And also helped the club in achieving many trophies.



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September 04, 2021, 09:08:53 AM
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I think that a jersey number like 10 carries big importance for the player who wears it. It lays a burden on the player that he needs to be a really good playmaker. That player should be at the centre of the focus of the team. Most of the attacks should go over him. So, number 10 is really critical for a team. And I'm not sure if it is the right thing to give it to Fati already. He is only 18 and he needs to be more experienced to deserve this jersey.
In football usually, the number 10 is given to the star player of a team, who acts as the team's playmaker or attacking midfielder and of course one of the players who can wear the number 10 is a player who is very influential in the team, I think Barcelona should prefer senior players to wear the number 10 instead of having to give it to fati who is still young and has not proven his quality so far.
I don't also think the number is good for Fati to wear. He is still very young and not experienced enough to wear the number 10. He will probably end up putting more pressure on himself when playing. They should have given it to a senior player with a lot of Football experience. I think Memphie Delay should have wore the number 10.

 
The truth is that Messi can never be replaced at FC Barca.They can play very well as a team,but his personality and contribution to the team can never be replaced,so I think giving the shirt number to any player can solve that all.  
Messi was a blessing to Barcelona. And he contributed greatly to the team. I don't think Barca can ever get another player like him. He scored 672 goals in Barcelona. And also helped the club in achieving many trophies.

In my opinion these number things are overvalued. The problem is the media who will then say that he is not worthy of wearing the number 10. But if he plays really bad, is there any number justifying bad performance? I know what you guys mean but to me the number doesn't mean anything. What does Messi now wear, the 30?

I generally don't think that Fati will become world class, like a potential best soccer player in the world. It will be a tough season, or probably a tough new overall situation for Barcelona for the next years.

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September 04, 2021, 09:37:08 AM
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Did you hear what Riquelme said about Messi? He said he thinks Messi will return to Barcelona next year. After winning the champions league this year with Mbappe and Neymar, he will return home next year and retire in Barcelona Smiley
Maybe Riquelme talked to Messi and asked if he had such an idea. If Barcelona can fix the financial situation it might. Messi will also win the first champions league to PSG this year

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September 04, 2021, 09:39:10 AM
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I generally don't think that Fati will become world class, like a potential best soccer player in the world. It will be a tough season, or probably a tough new overall situation for Barcelona for the next years.
Because he was so young (18 years old)?

I see him as the most potential young player in the team as a left winger and he has scored 15 goals when played on the left winger. To be honest, I like it when the coach gives him more minutes than the other substitutes, but he still can't be forced to do it and he still has a lot to learn. There will come a time when Fati will become a rising star at Barcelona if he is able to maximize his potential as a winger.

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September 04, 2021, 09:48:37 AM
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I don't know about others, but I don't think that a player's number plays a fantastic role. It's not a mascot and there's no need to give it some kind of cult, it just complicates things. If Barcelona approved the choice, it's up to them, but I think that Fati can still play and perhaps justify his ten

I think that a jersey number like 10 carries big importance for the player who wears it. It lays a burden on the player that he needs to be a really good playmaker. That player should be at the centre of the focus of the team. Most of the attacks should go over him. So, number 10 is really critical for a team. And I'm not sure if it is the right thing to give it to Fati already. He is only 18 and he needs to be more experienced to deserve this jersey.
You do realize that people just cultivated the number 10 in Barcelona, right?) Yes, maybe psychologically it will make Fati play better and even strive to become a better player, and I think Fati is capable of that. Young blood who is just starting to show himself may well develop into the new Messi. I don't judge players by their numbers, especially if people have imposed it, but Fati is very promising at the moment, and will be if he doesn't catch "star"

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September 04, 2021, 10:17:18 AM
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Pjanic stated after leaving Barcelonatgat "Koman X has been put on me since today.. I didn't get a chance." He also said, "My position in the team was not determined, I was getting a few minutes at every opportunity."
I think that his statements are nothing but a continuation of stories that always relate to Koeman. The coaches' dealing with players they did not ask for are things that have filled the football arena, but what is wrong with him in Koman is the double standards where he shows cruelty to those who can and manage his anger in front of names of the same level, even worse.
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Did you hear what Riquelme said about Messi? He said he thinks Messi will return to Barcelona next year. After winning the champions league this year with Mbappe and Neymar, he will return home next year and retire in Barcelona Smiley
Maybe Riquelme talked to Messi and asked if he had such an idea. If Barcelona can fix the financial situation it might. Messi will also win the first champions league to PSG this year
PSG signed Messi for two years, so I think PSG will keep him until his contract expires and I'm not sure about that conversation. But indeed, the legendary player certainly has a great opportunity to return to his old club just to end his career there, or become something that will have a big influence on his juniors at Barcelona later. Barcelona currently looks fine when compared to other teams too, because in La Liga at the moment the top-ranked teams don't have a perfect win total as they only got two wins and one draw from the three matches played.

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September 04, 2021, 12:34:02 PM
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PSG signed Messi for two years, so I think PSG will keep him until his contract expires and I'm not sure about that conversation.
They see the risk from old player like Messi. Ronaldo in Juventus is a good example for PSG. Mess and Ronaldo are still good and top players but they are far from the days they can decide big matches like 4 or 6 years ago.

Now, they can contribute to the team but to win titles, matches, their team mates have to contribute more and stop dependence on Ronaldo and Messi's great moments.

The match between Arghentina and Venezuela has a moment that PSG don't like. When Messi was fouled by Venezuela's defenders. If Messi had not been smart and reacted fast, he would have gotten a serious injury and his leg would have been broken.

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But indeed, the legendary player certainly has a great opportunity to return to his old club just to end his career there, or become something that will have a big influence on his juniors at Barcelona later. Barcelona currently looks fine when compared to other teams too, because in La Liga at the moment the top-ranked teams don't have a perfect win total as they only got two wins and one draw from the three matches played.
It is just theory and we don't know how Barcelona will become next 2 seasons. Messi can have his plan to return to Barcelona after two years in PSG but will he get acceptance from Barcelona to return and end his career there.

Next 3 years, we will know.
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September 04, 2021, 01:16:08 PM
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It is 100% guaranteed that they did it to show Messi how they do not care that he left. This is typical move of someone who just got out of relationship, like sharing pictures outside having fun and so forth so that your ex could see you having fun. They gave Ansu Fati number 10 not because they believe in him neither, you are acting as if they believe Ansu will be amazing, they do not believe that at all, they would give the number 10 to me if they could just because they want to tell Messi that number 10 is not special and already distributed to someone else, they want to make sure Messi sees it and feels bad about it.

But, I also do not pity Messi neither, look at Barcelona they got rid of so much money, if Messi took €1 salary or even 10 million, then they would have kept him, but Messi wanted more and more which is why it is obvious that he deserves his number 10 to be given to anyone.

Listening to you, it is clear that you are a hater of Messi. Messi wants to reduce his wages by up to 50%. It is enough. Now will he play without wages? So who will bear the cost of his daily life? Don't be too fond of the Barcelona club. I am also a fan of Barcelona. But I don't think they will see the title in the next few seasons as the club is now. The management should be more responsible.

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September 04, 2021, 06:33:01 PM
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I generally don't think that Fati will become world class, like a potential best soccer player in the world. It will be a tough season, or probably a tough new overall situation for Barcelona for the next years.
Because he was so young (18 years old)?

I see him as the most potential young player in the team as a left winger and he has scored 15 goals when played on the left winger. To be honest, I like it when the coach gives him more minutes than the other substitutes, but he still can't be forced to do it and he still has a lot to learn. There will come a time when Fati will become a rising star at Barcelona if he is able to maximize his potential as a winger.

I definitely am not saying that he is bad, and I also like it a lot when coaches give their young players a chance. Apart from the fact that he is wearing the number 10, I just mean that he isn't a monster like Ronaldo or Messi were at their youngest age already. Or let's say I don't see him on their level when he is 20 / 21. I might be totally wrong though, this is just from what I see and feel how he might develop. Messi was the world soccer player with age 21 I believe for the first time, that is just insane. And there is no doubt he deserved. In the season 08/09 he was the decisive player for Barcelona to win the first triple in the club's history.

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September 04, 2021, 06:49:14 PM
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Did you hear what Riquelme said about Messi? He said he thinks Messi will return to Barcelona next year. After winning the champions league this year with Mbappe and Neymar, he will return home next year and retire in Barcelona Smiley
Maybe Riquelme talked to Messi and asked if he had such an idea. If Barcelona can fix the financial situation it might. Messi will also win the first champions league to PSG this year
PSG signed Messi for two years, so I think PSG will keep him until his contract expires and I'm not sure about that conversation. But indeed, the legendary player certainly has a great opportunity to return to his old club just to end his career there, or become something that will have a big influence on his juniors at Barcelona later. Barcelona currently looks fine when compared to other teams too, because in La Liga at the moment the top-ranked teams don't have a perfect win total as they only got two wins and one draw from the three matches played.

Every player has at least 1 year remaining contract to sell this happens to get a good bargaining position in the market
The risk of price reduction occurs if the player leaves a contract of less than 1 year because he can leave on a free transfer
I think it is very possible that Messi will back to Barcelona next season he wants to be a perfect barcelona legend

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September 04, 2021, 07:13:10 PM
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Did you hear what Riquelme said about Messi? He said he thinks Messi will return to Barcelona next year. After winning the champions league this year with Mbappe and Neymar, he will return home next year and retire in Barcelona Smiley
Maybe Riquelme talked to Messi and asked if he had such an idea. If Barcelona can fix the financial situation it might. Messi will also win the first champions league to PSG this year

Maybe Riquelme said that but Messi's contract with PSG is 2+1 years. Let's say Messi won't want to activate the plus one. He is still going to have 2 years on his contract. And I don't think that PSG will let him go so soon if they don't manage to win the Champions League title this season. If they achieve the title, they might be leaning towards such deal I think. Just think about it. Mbappe will leave the team at the end of the season. If they don't become the champions then they will still need Messi. If they lose Messi too, then PSG might not achieve the title for a long time.  Grin

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Did you hear what Riquelme said about Messi? He said he thinks Messi will return to Barcelona next year. After winning the champions league this year with Mbappe and Neymar, he will return home next year and retire in Barcelona Smiley
Maybe Riquelme talked to Messi and asked if he had such an idea. If Barcelona can fix the financial situation it might. Messi will also win the first champions league to PSG this year
Maybe Riquelme said that but Messi's contract with PSG is 2+1 years. Let's say Messi won't want to activate the plus one. He is still going to have 2 years on his contract. And I don't think that PSG will let him go so soon if they don't manage to win the Champions League title this season. If they achieve the title, they might be leaning towards such deal I think. Just think about it. Mbappe will leave the team at the end of the season. If they don't become the champions then they will still need Messi. If they lose Messi too, then PSG might not achieve the title for a long time.  Grin
Apart from the contract part that makes the decision in the hands of PSG / AlKhelaifi and we all know how he see things differently...Whether PSG achieved the most awaited title or not, they will try to keep Messi to get the title again or to get it if they will fail this season. Besides, Barca will not pay much to get old Messi back, unless it is a free deal + low salary. Another reason, Barca will try to turn the page of Messi era once for all, the guy will not stand for them for ever and they have to give chances to new talents. It is absurd to count on it the whole time.
I think Messi will retire in USA or Argentina after 2-3 years in PSG imo.

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September 04, 2021, 07:37:55 PM
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Normally, we got a great match between Sevilla and Barcelona next weekend. However, the match seems like it is postponed. I'm really curious about what the reason can be. Let's say that they postponed it because they both have a CL match only after 3 days. But for example, Real Madrid are going to be playing their La Liga match and CL match which is only 3 days later also.
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