La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Luzin]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/barca-boss-laporta-koeman-to-stay-quot-he-deserves-some-trust-quot-/view/news/393590
Barcelona boss Laporta finally put an end to the speculations about the probability that Ronald Koeman is going to get sacked after getting very disappointing and embarrassing results. Laporta said that whatever the situation is now, Ronald Koeman will remain at the club. This must be really surprising for Barcelona fans especially. Because everyone was expecting the board to decide for Koeman's being sent away. However, Laporta made a statement that was indicating completely the opposite.

That is the right of management and Laporta, but I think many fans will be disappointed with his achievements. I think Koeman's initial move was wrong, by selling a lot of core players. Their sale was the cause of Barca's poor form earlier this season. If this is their decision then the fans can't seem to do much. Because I also agree that achievement takes time and can be obtained with money if management is able to pay for it.

Yes, it seems that you have to be patient for the Barca fans, maybe when they will bring in a star player in January.

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[masulum]

That is the right of management and Laporta, but I think many fans will be disappointed with his achievements. I think Koeman's initial move was wrong, by selling a lot of core players. Their sale was the cause of Barca's poor form earlier this season. If this is their decision then the fans can't seem to do much. Because I also agree that achievement takes time and can be obtained with money if management is able to pay for it.

Yes, it seems that you have to be patient for the Barca fans, maybe when they will bring in a star player in January.

It was very natural that Laporta decided to sack Koeman, he failed this season after losing Messi. Messi out is not because of his fault, but because of regulations. We could say the destruction of Barca because all this time they depended on Messi. When Messi left, we can see now, Barcelona didn't have attack creators. This is a difficult time for Barcelona, until they can get their finances back to buy quality players again

[$crypto$]

That is the right of management and Laporta, but I think many fans will be disappointed with his achievements. I think Koeman's initial move was wrong, by selling a lot of core players. Their sale was the cause of Barca's poor form earlier this season. If this is their decision then the fans can't seem to do much. Because I also agree that achievement takes time and can be obtained with money if management is able to pay for it.

Yes, it seems that you have to be patient for the Barca fans, maybe when they will bring in a star player in January.

It was very natural that Laporta decided to sack Koeman, he failed this season after losing Messi. Messi out is not because of his fault, but because of regulations. We could say the destruction of Barca because all this time they depended on Messi. When Messi left, we can see now, Barcelona didn't have attack creators. This is a difficult time for Barcelona until they can get their finances back to buy quality players again

After Suarez left first and after that Messi because of the regulations then this is a deep ruin for Barcelona, then what is the use of Kun Aguero after coming to Barcelona and wanting to play with his compatriots Messi on the other hand Messi has to leave because of the regulations is this a waste of their money?
At the core of Koeman's fault in my opinion was to throw away Barcelona's mainstay players when he arrived but Koeman couldn't balance his squad with his own tactics.
It also takes time if you want to buy talented players because currently there is still a crisis.

[rozak]

After Suarez left first and after that Messi because of the regulations then this is a deep ruin for Barcelona, then what is the use of Kun Aguero after coming to Barcelona and wanting to play with his compatriots Messi on the other hand Messi has to leave because of the regulations is this a waste of their money?
At the core of Koeman's fault in my opinion was to throw away Barcelona's mainstay players when he arrived but Koeman couldn't balance his squad with his own tactics.
It also takes time if you want to buy talented players because currently there is still a crisis.

Koeman's mistake by removing the mainstay player who was indeed a counterweight to Barcelona's game. when Messi went to make a Barcelona game that no longer blends. many of the players managed to create chances but couldn't turn them into goals. even saw a poor defense for this season.
if Koeman doesn't want to stop, he has to come up with a strategy to make how the team can play more balanced. I think Barcelona is in their worst season right now.

[hd49728]

After Suarez left first and after that Messi because of the regulations then this is a deep ruin for Barcelona, then what is the use of Kun Aguero after coming to Barcelona and wanting to play with his compatriots Messi on the other hand Messi has to leave because of the regulations is this a waste of their money?

Is Suarez really too old to play at top level? It is not and is proven by two seasons, last and current one. Suarez still plays with his best and score many goals.

He does not lose his ambition and enjoy the time he plays. Some players lose their ambition and then gradually lose their performance but it does not happen with Suarez.

Kun is a great player too but in past 3 years he got many injuries and can not play too many matches. I think if he is healthy, he can contribute for Barcelona but for now he is a failed transfer for them.

At the core of Koeman's fault in my opinion was to throw away Barcelona's mainstay players when he arrived but Koeman couldn't balance his squad with his own tactics.
It also takes time if you want to buy talented players because currently there is still a crisis.

Don't blame on all Koeman. With what happened to Messi, do you think what happened with Suarez is only because of Koeman? I think it has more reasons from the club, and Koeman is part of the gang that forced Suarez to leave.

[Woodie]

After Suarez left first and after that Messi because of the regulations then this is a deep ruin for Barcelona, then what is the use of Kun Aguero after coming to Barcelona and wanting to play with his compatriots Messi on the other hand Messi has to leave because of the regulations is this a waste of their money?
At the core of Koeman's fault in my opinion was to throw away Barcelona's mainstay players when he arrived but Koeman couldn't balance his squad with his own tactics.
It also takes time if you want to buy talented players because currently there is still a crisis.

Koeman's mistake by removing the mainstay player who was indeed a counterweight to Barcelona's game. when Messi went to make a Barcelona game that no longer blends. many of the players managed to create chances but couldn't turn them into goals. even saw a poor defense for this season.
if Koeman doesn't want to stop, he has to come up with a strategy to make how the team can play more balanced. I think Barcelona is in their worst season right now.

It's not Koemans doing that Barcelona are in this mess. Ever since Messi left because of la Liga rules & laws and financial problems the team was on the road to break as the liabilities were still not sorted out, which meant more players were destined to be offloaded or returned to try and curtail their financial burden. We have seen Suarez and Griezmann go back to Atletico Madrid because of the same reason and now that most of their star players have left they could manage a smaller wage bill but are still in need of a financial bailout.

[abhiseshakana]

That is the right of management and Laporta, but I think many fans will be disappointed with his achievements. I think Koeman's initial move was wrong, by selling a lot of core players. Their sale was the cause of Barca's poor form earlier this season. If this is their decision then the fans can't seem to do much. Because I also agree that achievement takes time and can be obtained with money if management is able to pay for it.

Yes, it seems that you have to be patient for the Barca fans, maybe when they will bring in a star player in January.

It was very natural that Laporta decided to sack Koeman, he failed this season after losing Messi. Messi out is not because of his fault, but because of regulations. We could say the destruction of Barca because all this time they depended on Messi. When Messi left, we can see now, Barcelona didn't have attack creators. This is a difficult time for Barcelona, until they can get their finances back to buy quality players again

After Messi left, Barcelona is no longer what it used to be. It's as someone has pressed the reset button, so it's like they started something from scratch again. I think Laporta is trying to be realistic, and he feels that their slump is because Messi is no longer in the Squad. So he still gives Koeman a chance to fix the problem.

[poldanmig]

After Messi left, Barcelona is no longer what it used to be. It's as someone has pressed the reset button, so it's like they started something from scratch again. I think Laporta is trying to be realistic, and he feels that their slump is because Messi is no longer in the Squad. So he still gives Koeman a chance to fix the problem.

It's true as you said, if currently barcelona are in their worst phase and we know that messi is the most important piece in the barcelona squad si far, so when he leaves it will certainly leave a big hole in their squad, and even ronald koeman who is a legend Barcelona seems very difficult to fix the situation, then in your opinion, what is the best solution for Barcelona right now?
Could changing coaches be the solution,Or maybe, Barcelona must find another player who is equal in quality to Messi?

[KTChampions]

Will Real Madrid lose points today again? It's already 55 minutes and they are losing 0 - 1. It will be a gift for Atletico which seems to have found its game and is confidently gaining points.

I was just mentioning that Espanyol fails most of the time to get points from Real Madrid and it will be a classic game but you know SURPRISE they won 2-1 vs Real!
This is a joke.. Now ATM tied with Real in the first place, Sociedad might pass both if they managed to win vs Getafe which is possible.. without counting Sevilla sitting 3 points away but lacking 2 matches.

Everything turned out to be even funnier - Sociedad could not win and now three teams have identical indicators of 5 wins, 2 draws and one defeat  Moreover, if Sevilla can win that postponed match against Barcelona, then it will have the same indicators. I certainly do not think that Sevilla will seriously claim the championship, but it will be interesting if this match (which is not yet known when it will take place) will be decisive.

[justdimin]

The good thing about the Spanish League this year is that with the mains teams deprived of the most glamorous super-stars, the teams have to learn how to play with what they have instead of realying on the same old tricks. I think that this opens the panorama a creates a much more interesting scenario than last year and makes betting more interesting than usual.

The difference is that, teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid still makes a good amount of profit from both viewership and also from their fans, which means that they will make more money than other teams and this will result with them getting better roster in the future as well, maybe even get stars. We all know Mbappe is looking to get into Real for example and all kinds of transfers could be made by these teams because they have the finances for it.

Yes, this season looks like it is going to be close between most teams, and I do not see any team dominating like they used to, however that doesn't mean that it will be like this forever, I am sure in 2-3 years we are going to see Madrid/Barça domination once again.

[abhiseshakana]

After Messi left, Barcelona is no longer what it used to be. It's as someone has pressed the reset button, so it's like they started something from scratch again. I think Laporta is trying to be realistic, and he feels that their slump is because Messi is no longer in the Squad. So he still gives Koeman a chance to fix the problem.

It's true as you said, if currently barcelona are in their worst phase and we know that messi is the most important piece in the barcelona squad si far, so when he leaves it will certainly leave a big hole in their squad, and even ronald koeman who is a legend Barcelona seems very difficult to fix the situation, then in your opinion, what is the best solution for Barcelona right now?
Could changing coaches be the solution,Or maybe, Barcelona must find another player who is equal in quality to Messi?

Changing coaches can be a double edged sword, especially if it has to be carried out when the season is not over yet. Lionel Messi is a great player, so finding a replacement for him is also a difficult task, but at least Barcelona should try for that. Maybe there will be sacrifices, considering that Barcelona's finances are not in good condition and that could violate La Liga's Financial Fair Play Regulations.

However, if Koeman still can't make it after he gets a new player, then Laporta really had to find a new coach.

[Bohdan820]

Atletico showed a great result vs Barça defense. With such a defense it is impossible to claim any trophies, even for such a grandee.
It looks like this season Barça will experience the recent plunge of Milan.
I hope this season will be enough for Barcelona to purify and show a good game next season, in this case the result will come a little later...
I understand that judging by a couple of matches is not right, but why can their game get better anytime soon? I don't see an answer to that.

Atletico now shares first place with Real Madrid which lost to the Catalan team, i think in the next tour they are likely to take revenge.

[Minor Miner]

After Messi left, Barcelona is no longer what it used to be. It's as someone has pressed the reset button, so it's like they started something from scratch again. I think Laporta is trying to be realistic, and he feels that their slump is because Messi is no longer in the Squad. So he still gives Koeman a chance to fix the problem.

It's true as you said, if currently barcelona are in their worst phase and we know that messi is the most important piece in the barcelona squad si far, so when he leaves it will certainly leave a big hole in their squad, and even ronald koeman who is a legend Barcelona seems very difficult to fix the situation, then in your opinion, what is the best solution for Barcelona right now?
Could changing coaches be the solution,Or maybe, Barcelona must find another player who is equal in quality to Messi?

We all know Barca can never find another player like Messi. Messi's are not born here and there. But what Barca can do is as they have sold Griezmann and have some room left by Messi's huge wage amount, maybe they can go for a good enough striker who can play alongside Aguero in the next transfer market. Maybe someone like Kane or Lewa. I don't know if they can afford players like Kane or Lewa, but they can obviously opt for Aubameyang or something like that. Also, they need a good enough defender as Pique is getting older and Araujo is very young to have relied upon every match.

[ziyaaa]

I was expecting Barcelona to change their manager after Koeman's getting really bad results in the La Liga and the Champions League both. The Atletico Madrid loss by 2-0 was the tipping point I think. While everyone was waiting for Koeman to be fired, Laporta stated that they will still continue to work with Koeman. He really believes in Koeman seemingly and thinks of giving a second chance.

[snipie]

I was expecting Barcelona to change their manager after Koeman's getting really bad results in the La Liga and the Champions League both. The Atletico Madrid loss by 2-0 was the tipping point I think. While everyone was waiting for Koeman to be fired, Laporta stated that they will still continue to work with Koeman. He really believes in Koeman seemingly and thinks of giving a second chance.

Laporta said before the game that he trust Koeman so he will not sack him just after the match, in this case he will look stupid
They will give him more chances while searching for a better and available coach because if they found one they will made the change. There is another important point is that Koeman agree to end the contract otherwise Barca will have to pay him a considerable amount of fees that will make Barca more in debt.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Will Real Madrid lose points today again? It's already 55 minutes and they are losing 0 - 1. It will be a gift for Atletico which seems to have found its game and is confidently gaining points.

I was just mentioning that Espanyol fails most of the time to get points from Real Madrid and it will be a classic game but you know SURPRISE they won 2-1 vs Real!
This is a joke.. Now ATM tied with Real in the first place, Sociedad might pass both if they managed to win vs Getafe which is possible.. without counting Sevilla sitting 3 points away but lacking 2 matches.

Everything turned out to be even funnier - Sociedad could not win and now three teams have identical indicators of 5 wins, 2 draws and one defeat  Moreover, if Sevilla can win that postponed match against Barcelona, then it will have the same indicators. I certainly do not think that Sevilla will seriously claim the championship, but it will be interesting if this match (which is not yet known when it will take place) will be decisive.

Aaah, this was a funny gameweek. Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern all of them lost to comparatively smaller teams. Whatsoever, Real is still on top of the table because of the goal difference. Maybe this La Liga season will be exciting - not because other teams got better, but because the 2 best teams got worse. Real lost their 2 best defensive duos in the same window and Barca lost their legend, Messi. So La Liga could get very competitive in the later parts of the season.

[Rengga Jati]

I agree with you. The Barcelona players have lost the mentality, spirit, and confidence to play well. And it should be controlled by the coach. But coach Koeman completely failed. He is not able to restore the morale of the players, he is not able to use any stable strategy. Looking at the playing style of Barcelona, ​​it seems that they have no strategy and no goal. Thus, it is not possible to get a good performance from a team, even if there are talented players in the team.

well yeah, we also know the coach's motivation, he is also ready if to leave Barcelona, maybe he thinks about the big responsibility and risks that he must hold to hand this big team. And of course, it must be, because every Barcelona coach must be more than others, must know more also about their team spirit and soul.
Well, I know that the problem may not be only on the coach but also their team members and also the management. They have serious problems right now in everything.
And although we point the coach to be responsible enough with this, there must be also a strong unity to come up again from the team and also of course, from the inside management that probably also has another problem to fix.
But yeah, the game is no longer as interesting as a long time ago

[BuNga_cute]

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I was just mentioning that Espanyol fails most of the time to get points from Real Madrid and it will be a classic game but you know SURPRISE they won 2-1 vs Real!
This is a joke.. Now ATM tied with Real in the first place, Sociedad might pass both if they managed to win vs Getafe which is possible.. without counting Sevilla sitting 3 points away but lacking 2 matches.

Everything turned out to be even funnier - Sociedad could not win and now three teams have identical indicators of 5 wins, 2 draws and one defeat  Moreover, if Sevilla can win that postponed match against Barcelona, then it will have the same indicators. I certainly do not think that Sevilla will seriously claim the championship, but it will be interesting if this match (which is not yet known when it will take place) will be decisive.

Aaah, this was a funny gameweek. Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern all of them lost to comparatively smaller teams. Whatsoever, Real is still on top of the table because of the goal difference. Maybe this La Liga season will be exciting - not because other teams got better, but because the 2 best teams got worse. Real lost their 2 best defensive duos in the same window and Barca lost their legend, Messi. So La Liga could get very competitive in the later parts of the season.

For me, who placed bets on several games played by big teams, that game week wasn't funny, but like a nightmare. Because I suffered a big loss
by betting a win for a big team, I had to accept the loss, because football is often a surprise. But Real Madrid are still at the top of the table and
that's a relief for Real Madrid fans. I believe Real Madrid will soon recover from the bad results it had in week 8. After all, from 8 matches in La Liga
with only one defeat it is still a pretty good achievement for Real Madrid, I agree it's getting more interesting after some of the favorite teams in
La Liga failed to win. Competition in La Liga becomes tight and difficult to predict, this will make us enthusiastic about watching La Liga every week.

[CryptocurencyKing]

I was expecting Barcelona to change their manager after Koeman's getting really bad results in the La Liga and the Champions League both. The Atletico Madrid loss by 2-0 was the tipping point I think. While everyone was waiting for Koeman to be fired, Laporta stated that they will still continue to work with Koeman. He really believes in Koeman seemingly and thinks of giving a second chance.

Laporta said before the game that he trust Koeman so he will not sack him just after the match, in this case he will look stupid
They will give him more chances while searching for a better and available coach because if they found one they will made the change. There is another important point is that Koeman agree to end the contract otherwise Barca will have to pay him a considerable amount of fees that will make Barca more in debt.

Can they even afford to pay him off? Would a top manager really go the Barca at the moment with their issues? These are the questions we should be asking ourselves. And again, Club management should not entertain things like whether a person(Manager) is a fan or a club legend of a particular club or not. If he is good enough then let him continue to work at the football club but if he is not getting the desired result he must be relieved of his duties and he will support the club from his couch at home. Koeman has additional protection solely because he played for Barcelona and that is why he is still in charge. A similar scenario is Manchester united as with Ole Gunar.

[DIA7]

The Catalan press is saying 5 players for Barcelona are about to.make the return of Fati,Dembele,Pedri,Aguero,Alba from injury. "Koman now has all the players during October," .
Outwardly, good news for Koeman, because he can play the way he wants, but in his heart there is "the horror" because the failure in October has no excuse or justification!

I think  that with tge current financial situation for Barcelona they are going to have to keep up with Koeman despite not achieving tge bare minimum results awaited from him.