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Question: 2024/2025 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 22 (41.5%)
Real Madrid - 28 (52.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 0 (0%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 0 (0%)
Villareal - 1 (1.9%)
Real Sociedad - 2 (3.8%)
Other - 0 (0%)
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October 25, 2022, 08:23:43 PM
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On Saturday is probably the central match of La Liga - Valencia against Barcelona. This is a very important game for Barcelona. The team is three points short of catching up with Real Madrid in the standings. Valencia has been winless for six games. I think the club has little chance to win against Barcelona.
Xavi Hernandez had to fight to be able to make his team play consistently until the end of the season, because the Barcelona club made a very stressful decision, Xavi Hernandez would be fired if Barcelona failed to win the title this season, Barcelona must be able to keep their distance from Real Madrid, Barcelona must also be able to beat Valencia in week 12 of La Liga, because if Barcelona loses then their points with Real Madrid will be far, especially in the next match, Real Madrid will face a lower team for sure they will get an easy win.
Xavi shouldn't be held accountable if Real Madrid plays very well, if Xavi has like 2.2 points per game type of season and then Real still ends up with better result then it's not his fault, he played as good as hoped for and still lost, that's the verge of being good or bad, over 2.2 and you are a great manager, under 2 and you are at risk, that's how Barcelona type of leader teams are calculated most of the time.

Unfortunately for them, real is playing amazingly, and that means Real could very well be the champion, which won't be that easy to handle but it could still happen, which is why it's going to be alright if they kept Xavi as well.
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October 25, 2022, 08:57:42 PM
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Xavi Hernandez had to fight to be able to make his team play consistently until the end of the season, because the Barcelona club made a very stressful decision, Xavi Hernandez would be fired if Barcelona failed to win the title this season, Barcelona must be able to keep their distance from Real Madrid, Barcelona must also be able to beat Valencia in week 12 of La Liga, because if Barcelona loses then their points with Real Madrid will be far, especially in the next match, Real Madrid will face a lower team for sure they will get an easy win.
A lot of things can change because the league is only 11 games. I believe in the capacity that Xavi has as Barcelona coach, and I have no doubt he is bigger than Koeman in the past. Xavi couldn't win all the games, that's normal and under normal circumstances any team would be very difficult to do so in recent seasons.

Xavi and his players are just trying to get better and keep their performance consistent. About the result, it must be difficult because all teams need to win in a game. I don't see much fault with Xavi and his players, but defender injuries have made their poor run of results improve especially in the Champions League.

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October 25, 2022, 09:22:34 PM
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Xavi shouldn't be held accountable if Real Madrid plays very well, if Xavi has like 2.2 points per game type of season and then Real still ends up with better result then it's not his fault, he played as good as hoped for and still lost, that's the verge of being good or bad, over 2.2 and you are a great manager, under 2 and you are at risk, that's how Barcelona type of leader teams are calculated most of the time.

Unfortunately for them, real is playing amazingly, and that means Real could very well be the champion, which won't be that easy to handle but it could still happen, which is why it's going to be alright if they kept Xavi as well.
It should be worth noting that he has a bad win rate if compared to the last 6 managers at Barcelona since 2001 after 50 games. If the win rate keeps low, I think the management will look into it too when considering his future, regardless of how good Real Madrid will be.


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October 25, 2022, 10:24:53 PM
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Xavi shouldn't be held accountable if Real Madrid plays very well, if Xavi has like 2.2 points per game type of season and then Real still ends up with better result then it's not his fault, he played as good as hoped for and still lost, that's the verge of being good or bad, over 2.2 and you are a great manager, under 2 and you are at risk, that's how Barcelona type of leader teams are calculated most of the time.

Unfortunately for them, real is playing amazingly, and that means Real could very well be the champion, which won't be that easy to handle but it could still happen, which is why it's going to be alright if they kept Xavi as well.
It should be worth noting that he has a bad win rate if compared to the last 6 managers at Barcelona since 2001 after 50 games. If the win rate keeps low, I think the management will look into it too when considering his future, regardless of how good Real Madrid will be.

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I read about that several times and I wouldn't argue with statistics but Xavi made a good work by rebuilding the team. Before him Barcelona was doing horrible football, before Messi departure and just after it under Koeman management. Xavi back then was like the saviour and Barcelona moved forward with him. The situation isn't very good for now but Barcelona kept hovering in the first spots. As far as I remember, Barcelona was like in the 15th spot in the previous year?

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October 25, 2022, 11:55:41 PM
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Do you still remember the Madrid legend who was also successful as Madrid coach? Yes it was Zidane, after a long time I waited where he would go coaching he started to say that, although it was still confidential. Could it be to Spain?
There are so many speculations about what club he will be coaching it. I think that he would be going to the different league. Zidane is unbelievable coach. Three champions league in a row. I never see any club that has every achieved it.
I hope that he will be making his debut as soon as possible as a coach to the new club. that will be pretty interesting if he will be going to the other than spanish league. Ancellotti is still doing so good with real madrid right now.
Great coaches like Zinedine Zidane are loved by many big clubs but this depends on where Zidane wants to contribute, I heard rumors that Zidane wants to return to PSG but we all still don't know for sure, Hopefully with Zidane's return as coach he is still able to give victory to the club being trained. As for going back to Real Madrid I don't think it's possible because they still have Carlo Ancelotti.

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October 26, 2022, 03:00:09 AM
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Great coaches like Zinedine Zidane are loved by many big clubs but this depends on where Zidane wants to contribute, I heard rumors that Zidane wants to return to PSG but we all still don't know for sure, Hopefully with Zidane's return as coach he is still able to give victory to the club being trained. As for going back to Real Madrid I don't think it's possible because they still have Carlo Ancelotti.
Zidane is more keen on the coach position in France national team. I believe he delayed to take any job at any big club just to wait for chances with his national team. Didier Deschamps has managed France for so long and it seems the World Cup 2022 will be the last tournament for him in France. After that France will look for a new coach and I am sure that if Zidane is available, they will choose him. A legend as a player in the past and has a great CV with Real Madrid.

Ancelotti said in a press conference that he will retire after finish his job in Real Madrid and I believe it won't take too many years from now. Maybe in one or two more seasons, he will leave Real Madrid but it does not mean Zidane will return to Bernabeu.

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October 26, 2022, 03:58:22 AM
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The match between Celta Vigo and Getafe was a draw. However, we saw a tough fight. In this match, Getafe was leading by 1 goal, but at the end of the game, Celta Vigo scored 1 goal to draw the match. But I  I thought Getafe would win this match. But first they played well and then Getafe didn't play very well.

It was a surprised match, because many people predicted for the favour of Getafe to win the match 1-0 but the match later ended up draw 1-1. Getafe really demonstrated well in the first half that made many people to concluded that the match will end up for their favour because the strategies they were using to played Celta Vigo in the first half prove to people that they will win the match with many goals but Celta Vigo players later discovered the strategies they were using to played them that made Celta Vigo to have access to their goalpost to equalized the goal 1-1.

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October 26, 2022, 06:58:04 AM
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Do you still remember the Madrid legend who was also successful as Madrid coach? Yes it was Zidane, after a long time I waited where he would go coaching he started to say that, although it was still confidential. Could it be to Spain?
There are so many speculations about what club he will be coaching it. I think that he would be going to the different league. Zidane is unbelievable coach. Three champions league in a row. I never see any club that has every achieved it.
I hope that he will be making his debut as soon as possible as a coach to the new club. that will be pretty interesting if he will be going to the other than spanish league. Ancellotti is still doing so good with real madrid right now.
Hopefully Zidane can make his debut with a new club soon and I hope the club comes from La Liga, of course it's not Real Madrid. It would be great to see Zidane return to the Santiago Bernabeu with a mission to beat Real Madrid, I can't imagine how the Real Madrid fans would react if this actually happened.

Zidane must find the ideal club for him, La Liga doesn't have many big clubs. Apart from Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, there is almost no other club that can give Real Madrid competition. If Zidane wants to continue his career in Spain, Atletico Madrid is the ideal club to coach.
It seems not. He has been in real madrid and he may move to the new club or new league. Real madrid has ancelotti. It seems not possible anymore to replace ancellotti for zidane. Zidane has been performing so good. As a former of player from real madrid the way for him to maintain real when he has become a coach for real madrid is quite different with xavi with barcelona. Zidane gave there champion league in a row while xavi has the worst win rate as a coach in barcelona since 2001.
Zidane may reject such offer even when it comes from atletico madrid. So many big clubs from another league was also giving him such big offer.

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October 26, 2022, 07:52:38 AM
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Do you still remember the Madrid legend who was also successful as Madrid coach? Yes it was Zidane, after a long time I waited where he would go coaching he started to say that, although it was still confidential. Could it be to Spain?
There are so many speculations about what club he will be coaching it. I think that he would be going to the different league. Zidane is unbelievable coach. Three champions league in a row. I never see any club that has every achieved it.
I hope that he will be making his debut as soon as possible as a coach to the new club. that will be pretty interesting if he will be going to the other than spanish league. Ancellotti is still doing so good with real madrid right now.
Great coaches like Zinedine Zidane are loved by many big clubs but this depends on where Zidane wants to contribute, I heard rumors that Zidane wants to return to PSG but we all still don't know for sure, Hopefully with Zidane's return as coach he is still able to give victory to the club being trained. As for going back to Real Madrid I don't think it's possible because they still have Carlo Ancelotti.

Zidane had the opportunity to be in Real Madrid until now but he doesn't want. He prefers to take a brake whenever he wants and resume again. I have not heard the rumour that he wants to coach any club in Spain. I only heard about PSG and I have been hearing French National team, which I believe is the main target of Zidane. He may have it after the World Cup if he is still clubless by then.

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October 26, 2022, 08:33:52 AM
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It's true what you said under the statistics in the predictions for the Valencia Vs Barcelona match, it could be that Bercelona will win the match 4 days to come, but Valencia doesn't want to lose just like that, what's more, Valencia is favored to play at home but, in fact some predictions say Barcelona will win it..

Valencia - 5.00 = 20%
When the odds are 5.00 , the expected chance of winning is 20%, but the team actually wins 1% matches these odds.

Barcelona - 1.62 = 62%
When odds are 1.62 , the expected chance of winning is 62%, but this team actually won 71% matched these odds.



Interesting statistics. Could you show its source? It looks unrealistic, especially the winning percentage of Valencia - after all, with such a low winning percentage, a bet on Valencia's opponent will almost always be profitable. With the statistics of Barcelona, everything is also strange - after all, if you make 100 bets on the odds of 1.62 and win 71 of them, it will turn out that you will be in profit by 33%. I don't think the bookies are wrong that much.
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October 26, 2022, 08:42:28 AM
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The match between Celta Vigo and Getafe was a draw. However, we saw a tough fight. In this match, Getafe was leading by 1 goal, but at the end of the game, Celta Vigo scored 1 goal to draw the match. But I  I thought Getafe would win this match. But first they played well and then Getafe didn't play very well.

It was a surprised match, because many people predicted for the favour of Getafe to win the match 1-0 but the match later ended up draw 1-1. Getafe really demonstrated well in the first half that made many people to concluded that the match will end up for their favour because the strategies they were using to played Celta Vigo in the first half prove to people that they will win the match with many goals but Celta Vigo players later discovered the strategies they were using to played them that made Celta Vigo to have access to their goalpost to equalized the goal 1-1.
Celta Vigo improved their form. Getafe may have been underdogs, but they didn't have many chances. Celta Vigo almost lost, but they didn't give up on the many chances they had. they had the ball and put great pressure on them. Getafe had to postpone the victory party because they were unable to maintain a 0-1 advantage until the end of the match.



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October 26, 2022, 08:45:08 AM
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Do you still remember the Madrid legend who was also successful as Madrid coach? Yes it was Zidane, after a long time I waited where he would go coaching he started to say that, although it was still confidential. Could it be to Spain?
Zidane is a good young coach, he has already proved when he is in Madrid. In addition to the many great offers, it is a pity that he chose to stay at home. It is said that he wants to be with France, but it seems impossible for the time being.

Zidane has truly achieved great success. It's really hard to do what he did, I have great respect. Real Madrid's performance is pretty good right now and I think they are one of the strongest teams in the league. So I don't think there will be such a thing as a coach change.
There seems to be no reason for Ancelotti to leave the team

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October 26, 2022, 09:03:36 AM
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Do you still remember the Madrid legend who was also successful as Madrid coach? Yes it was Zidane, after a long time I waited where he would go coaching he started to say that, although it was still confidential. Could it be to Spain?
Zidane is a good young coach, he has already proved when he is in Madrid. In addition to the many great offers, it is a pity that he chose to stay at home. It is said that he wants to be with France, but it seems impossible for the time being.

Zidane has truly achieved great success. It's really hard to do what he did, I have great respect. Real Madrid's performance is pretty good right now and I think they are one of the strongest teams in the league. So I don't think there will be such a thing as a coach change.
There seems to be no reason for Ancelotti to leave the team


Did you know that while Zidane was still a player Zidane didn't only play for Real Madrid and also, there were rumors that Zidane might return for Juventus which I think is possible. Considering Juventus are currently in poor form, and Zidane as a former player it is possible that Zidane will return to Juventus as a coach. Even though it's just an issue but because there is information that Zidane will return to coach but it is still a secret, then all speculation will certainly arise.

In fact, there are also many legendary players who did not succeed as coaches and that has often happened, but the way Zidane became a coach and then chose not to train or take a break first. So I think it's a unique way that Zidane uses, because usually coaches who are unemployed they still don't get a new offer. But Zidane really can turn down all the offers, and will only choose the team he really wants.

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October 26, 2022, 09:52:40 AM
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Bayern's attack is pretty much strong and Barca's defenders has to do a lot of work to keep them at bay. I think Bayern has too much of quality for Barca to handle. Barca have been playing good defensively in LaLiga games but Bayern have sharp attack unlike the LaLiga teams Barca have been facing recently. Either way Barca exiting CL is likely as Inter only needs a win against Plzen and that one should be a piece of cake for the Italian side.

About Barca's defence, I would say Araujo's injury has hit Barca hard. Ever since his injury Barca's defence have been struggling as there isn't a strong character in defence for them.

Bayern have a pretty strong attack and a very solid collective game, even though they don't have a pure forward. however, they were able to beat Barcelona with a score of 2-0.
as you said, Barcelona's defense is quite fragile plus some of their core players have suffered from long injuries. as a result, Barcelona were unable to gain their momentum. Araujo's absence, brought Barcelona to defeat in very crucial matches. Xavi's strategy is not effective, every attack that Barcelona builds always fails, especially their wing attackers who are not optimal.

in midfield, it was Busquets who really underperformed. once again Xavi still entrusts him to be the main starter.

in the last two games in La Liga, Xavi really learned from his mistakes.
he rotates his players, the result is quite effective. in tonight's match, the battle of prestige will take place at the Camp Nou.
I want to see how effective Xavi's strategy is to win the battle against Bayern Munich.

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October 26, 2022, 10:27:25 AM
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There are two kinds of Barcelona at the moment. The one in the La Liga is in a much stronger position. They lost to only Real Madrid so far and their general performance is really amazing. The other kind is doing really bad in the Champions League. It is like they care about winning the La Liga title more than being successful in the Champions League.

If we think realistically this team still need a longer time to be able to win the Champions League title. They aren't still ready for it. However giving up in the group stage already is not good at all. Their finance is going to be affected really badly also. Because teams earn a lot of money as long as they continue on their way in the Champions League. They really need this money as they have spent a lot of money for the players.
For the first time I am hearing that there are two kinds of Barcelona, the Laliga Barcelona and the Champions league Barcelona, this is so funny but somehow it makes sense in a way because Barcelona seem to have lost their rhythm and confidence to compete at top European level but they are doing a lot better in the domestic league, trying to win games and getting better results. I think it’s because they are used to being dominant in the la liga and they know their only real competition in the league is Real Madrid, to me the la liga is a farmers league.

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October 26, 2022, 10:39:02 AM
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Do you still remember the Madrid legend who was also successful as Madrid coach? Yes it was Zidane, after a long time I waited where he would go coaching he started to say that, although it was still confidential. Could it be to Spain?
There are so many speculations about what club he will be coaching it. I think that he would be going to the different league. Zidane is unbelievable coach. Three champions league in a row. I never see any club that has every achieved it.
I hope that he will be making his debut as soon as possible as a coach to the new club. that will be pretty interesting if he will be going to the other than spanish league. Ancellotti is still doing so good with real madrid right now.
Great coaches like Zinedine Zidane are loved by many big clubs but this depends on where Zidane wants to contribute, I heard rumors that Zidane wants to return to PSG but we all still don't know for sure, Hopefully with Zidane's return as coach he is still able to give victory to the club being trained. As for going back to Real Madrid I don't think it's possible because they still have Carlo Ancelotti.
Zidane contribution as a player and coach of Madrid has been quite large so far, but I think there is no reason for Madrid to replace Ancellotti who has also given extraordinary things to Madrid at this time, Zidane return as coach has certainly been eagerly awaited by big clubs but as we know before if Zidane still rests before he actually goes down the mountain to coach a club, so far there have been many rumors circulating that Zidane will coach PSG but all of that has been debunked after Galtier finally became PSG main coach, so that now Zidane is often linked with France, but the issue is still being dismissed by Zidane agent so so I think there is no certainty when Zidane will return to coaching.

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October 26, 2022, 10:57:41 AM
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On Saturday is probably the central match of La Liga - Valencia against Barcelona. This is a very important game for Barcelona. The team is three points short of catching up with Real Madrid in the standings. Valencia has been winless for six games. I think the club has little chance to win against Barcelona.

In the Valencia Vs Barcelona match, I think Barcelona stands a better chance of winning against Valencia because Barcelona's form in Laliga is much better when compared to that of Valencia, Barcelona has recorded 9 wins, 1 draw, and 1 defeat in eleven matches and they are currently second in League standings while Valencia has managed to win 4 games in eleven matches played so far.

Going with the head-to-head statistics of the two teams, Barcelona has recorded more wins against Valencia and seeing that Valencia are winless in more than three games now in Laliga, Barcelona will be hoping to get an away win to continue to contend for the title race with Real Madrid who will be playing at home this weekend against Girona.


Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.

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October 26, 2022, 12:47:07 PM
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It should be worth noting that he has a bad win rate if compared to the last 6 managers at Barcelona since 2001 after 50 games. If the win rate keeps low, I think the management will look into it too when considering his future, regardless of how good Real Madrid will be.


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It is worth noting that even this win rate for Xavi is too one-sided - Barcelona wins games against weak teams, but loses to strong ones almost guaranteed. Something I do not remember that with those coaches Barcelona left the Champions League immediately after the group stage. Overall, I think that Barcelona will have big problems in the summer and a change of coach will not be the biggest issue by then. Maybe even Xavi will stay to train the youth and will gradually introduce them into the main team.

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October 26, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
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It should be worth noting that he has a bad win rate if compared to the last 6 managers at Barcelona since 2001 after 50 games. If the win rate keeps low, I think the management will look into it too when considering his future, regardless of how good Real Madrid will be.


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It is a bad win rate for Xavi but we must include a factor that Barcelona has to play without Messi under Xavi time. We know how important Messi is for Barcelona. His departure is a big minus point for Barcelona and after that they have been playing  with less powerful and creative attacking.

Messi can not solve all things but he can do a lot of things that are beneficial for Barcelona generally.

It is worth noting that even this win rate for Xavi is too one-sided - Barcelona wins games against weak teams, but loses to strong ones almost guaranteed. Something I do not remember that with those coaches Barcelona left the Champions League immediately after the group stage. Overall, I think that Barcelona will have big problems in the summer and a change of coach will not be the biggest issue by then. Maybe even Xavi will stay to train the youth and will gradually introduce them into the main team.
In the past season, people were happy with Xavi and recognized his management in Barcelona. It was chanfed after the summer transfer as their fans hoped that Xavi can help them to win La Liga. That is still a difficult mission for Xavi and his players. Their fans also were optimistic that Barcelona will play as a giant in Champions League again. It was proven that they can not and even are facing risk of demotion to Europa League.

I agree that stats for 50 matches is bad and worse than other coaches but we must consider player quality at different seasons. I don't deny that Xavi must improve his management too but it looks good enough for a young coach.

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October 26, 2022, 12:56:32 PM
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Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.
Valencia vs Barcelona match is difficult to predict even though  are several opportunities to dominate Barcelona to win this match, Valencia often makes surprises when they play at home. But looking at the series of results from their last 5 matches, I'm pretty sure Barcelona will easily beat Valencia. Valencia front line this season is not too aggressive because Gennaro Gattuso still relies on Edison Cavani who has so far contributed 4 goals from 6 appearances this season. Now this is in contrast to Lewandowski who is on fire on the front lines who have scored 12 goals so far.

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