La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

I guess what caused Real Madrid losing in the last season is for the fact that they were more focused on winning the championship believing that the local league Spanish La Liga will be a workover for them even though they know the capacity of their closest rival team Barcelona who made a surprising ending to topping the table in the la luga.

There is no luck and they are too focused on chasing the Champions League, so Real Madrid's appearance in La Liga is not fully concentrated. Entering the second half of the season, they also experienced a decline in performance and suffered several defeats which caused their points to be further away from Barcelona. This season they have good strength compared to Barcelona and there are good hopes for next season for Real Madrid.

But then also we can't tell if the coming season will be that lucky for Barcelona because Real Madrid is presently putting in efforts to get the best player onboard the team against the coming.

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid have tried to maximize the team's strengths by trying to sign several players in the transfer market. Real Madrid has clear financial resources compared to Barcelona, so that Real Madrid can maximize the process of recruiting new players.

[Litzki1990]

Real Madrid announced their annual financial statements with a 17% increase in revenue for a total of 843 million euros from the 22/23 season and this revenue does not include player sales. Real Madrid closed the 22/23 financial season with a profit of 12 million euros. Even last season's revenue outperformed pre-pandemic revenue in 18/19 of around 757 million euros. With this huge amount of money, it's no wonder that Real Madrid has become the team with the best finances since the leadership of Florentino Perez and even if they were to bring in star players at a cost of over 100 million euros they would have no trouble at all.

Do you think that if you owned Real Madrid, would you use a fraction of that money to sign Mbappe?

Source: https://www.realmadrid.com/en/news/2023/07/17/real-madrid-closes-the-financial-year-2022/23-with-a-12-million-euro-positive-result

It's not as simple as you said. The better if you are reading whole of article. Real madrid is also taking a huge loan for the stadium renovation. Just because it was getting a positive result in the last season's revenue and it doesn't mean real madrid can sign mbappe.
You shall also try to under how much cash owned by madrid right now. Real madrid has been taking loan worth €800 millions for renovation of its stadium.

Mbappe's price which was around €200 - €250 millions which is very crazy price for him.

Real Madrid are willing to spend the maximum amount of money for Mbappe. Real Madrid have taken a loan to renovate their stadium in the media but we must not forget that they are one of the richest clubs. Where other clubs suffer losses every season, Real Madrid earns huge amount of money from this football every season. If Mbappe changes teams, Real Madrid will sit with the highest amount of money to sign Mbappe. Real Madrid don't want to spend their own money to renovate their studio at the moment because they need a lot of money up front that's why they borrow 400 million euros and then renovate their studio, in this case Real Madrid adopted some strategy. But believe me if Mbappe changes club he will come to Real Madrid no matter how big the transfer is.

[rendravolt]

Real Madrid announced their annual financial statements with a 17% increase in revenue for a total of 843 million euros from the 22/23 season and this revenue does not include player sales. Real Madrid closed the 22/23 financial season with a profit of 12 million euros. Even last season's revenue outperformed pre-pandemic revenue in 18/19 of around 757 million euros. With this huge amount of money, it's no wonder that Real Madrid has become the team with the best finances since the leadership of Florentino Perez and even if they were to bring in star players at a cost of over 100 million euros they would have no trouble at all.

Do you think that if you owned Real Madrid, would you use a fraction of that money to sign Mbappe?

Source: https://www.realmadrid.com/en/news/2023/07/17/real-madrid-closes-the-financial-year-2022/23-with-a-12-million-euro-positive-result

It's not as simple as you said. The better if you are reading whole of article. Real madrid is also taking a huge loan for the stadium renovation. Just because it was getting a positive result in the last season's revenue and it doesn't mean real madrid can sign mbappe.
You shall also try to under how much cash owned by madrid right now. Real madrid has been taking loan worth €800 millions for renovation of its stadium.

Mbappe's price which was around €200 - €250 millions which is very crazy price for him.

I understand the current state of Real Madrid and I just want to hear from all my friends. For me, Real Madrid's finances have not fully recovered at this time after having to pay a loan to repair the stadium. But so far we also know that Real Madrid is also still able to bring in Jude Bellingham from Dortmund at a very fantastic fee.

To be honest, so I also can't say it's easy to be able to bring in Mbappe because yes, with various aspects that are divided for the needs that exist within the scope of the club, for now Mbappe's transfer feels very impossible. Especially with the costs you mentioned, it's even too much for players whose contracts end next year.

[marcous]

Atletico Madrid is a club that to be used mainly for business, they're not want to achieve anything and only try to find a potential cheap player, then sell at high price. Barcelona don't have a good financial, it's impossible they would sign Joao Felix. I think he will join in one of EPL club again, maybe Newcastle United, Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester United, those clubs are have a high possibility.

I think Atletico Madrid's style of doing business buying and selling players is almost the same as Borussia Dortmund in the Bundesliga. Recruit young players and give them the opportunity to play regularly for two or three seasons, after which they will be released at a higher price. Individually I agree with you, that ATM doesn't seem to have ambitions on winning trophies either in La Liga or in the UCL. However, statistically in the last decade ATM has reached the Champions League final twice and managed to break the domination of Barca and Madrid by winning the La Liga trophy twice.

About Jao Felix the biggest possibility for his future is going back to the ATM once his loan period is up. Man United and Barcelona seem reluctant to pay Felix the price set by the ATM, as well as Chelsea who are not interested in making his status permanent.

[armanda90]

Hazard is a transfer that failed miserably, because Hazard was brought in at a very high price but Hazard did not have any contribution to Real Madrid. So, even if Joselu doesn't really contribute well, it won't be a problem because Joselu is an old player anyway. So yes, we cannot expect the same performance and contribution between Benzema and Joselu, because of course they have different skills and power. But anyway, at least Real Madrid have a good movement to be able to regenerate the team for the long term, because the young players that Real Madrid currently have are considered to have great potential and quality from time to time.

Its not matter with how much money spent by Real Madrid for signing Eden Hazard but become failed transfer, most spent with injured and Hazard difficult back to the top perform with Real Madrid although he was success won many tittle since his career in Bernabeu. Seems difficult for Joselu because he has huge pressure come to Madrid for replacing Karim Benzema position, its not easy how to get same level qualities with Benzema success become top scorer for Real Madrid and consistent on the top performance every season.

So far Madrid still not sign any new center forward, actually Joselu will be center forward for Madrid and right now in that position filled only by him after Madrid not extend Mariano Diaz.

[bitgolden]

Hazard is a transfer that failed miserably, because Hazard was brought in at a very high price but Hazard did not have any contribution to Real Madrid. So, even if Joselu doesn't really contribute well, it won't be a problem because Joselu is an old player anyway. So yes, we cannot expect the same performance and contribution between Benzema and Joselu, because of course they have different skills and power. But anyway, at least Real Madrid have a good movement to be able to regenerate the team for the long term, because the young players that Real Madrid currently have are considered to have great potential and quality from time to time.

Hazard wasn't really a "bad" transfer but more about how he just disappointed. He was an amazing player when he played in Chelsea and that made Real think that maybe he will play like that for them too, there is nothing wrong with that, how could you know that he would be this bad?

I mean they are buying players all the time, just this season they spent like 150+ million euros so far, with player salaries and sign bonuses that's like 200 million at least, and how would you ever know they won't be terrible? You possibly couldn't know that. This is why Hazard was definitely an unlucky transfer, but I wouldn't say that it was a bad one, there is a big difference. The difference is that they got smarter about it and been doing amazing transfers for a while.

[len01]

I understand the current state of Real Madrid and I just want to hear from all my friends. For me, Real Madrid's finances have not fully recovered at this time after having to pay a loan to repair the stadium. But so far we also know that Real Madrid is also still able to bring in Jude Bellingham from Dortmund at a very fantastic fee.

To be honest, so I also can't say it's easy to be able to bring in Mbappe because yes, with various aspects that are divided for the needs that exist within the scope of the club, for now Mbappe's transfer feels very impossible. Especially with the costs you mentioned, it's even too much for players whose contracts end next year.

not having to bring in Mbappe but being able to sign Bellingham from Dortmund is more than enough because it will only waste time waiting for Mbappe unfinished problems and will only waste too much money to get a player like Mbappe who does not sure make a good contribution to Madrid.
we have to try to forget the rumor about Madrid getting Mbappe because it's really just an not sure story.

[Razmirraz]

But then also we can't tell if the coming season will be that lucky for Barcelona because Real Madrid is presently putting in efforts to get the best player onboard the team against the coming.

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid have tried to maximize the team's strengths by trying to sign several players in the transfer market. Real Madrid has clear financial resources compared to Barcelona, so that Real Madrid can maximize the process of recruiting new players.

Recruiting new players will still be carried out by Real Madrid in order to improve the quality of the team after failing to win the La Liga trophy and the Champions League trophy last season. This season Real Madrid has lost several players, the arrival of new players is needed by Real Madrid in this transfer market.
Several players have been brought in on different lines, Real Madrid still needs additional players in the striker position to improve the quality of attack. Barcelona is slowly starting to improve after bringing in several quality players last season, Barcelona success in winning a trophy last season was thanks to Xavi gentle touch. Barcelona and Real Madrid are still trying to maximize the strength of the team in order to maintain the opportunity to get a trophy at the end of the season.

[Wiwo]

But then also we can't tell if the coming season will be that lucky for Barcelona because Real Madrid is presently putting in efforts to get the best player onboard the team against the coming.

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid have tried to maximize the team's strengths by trying to sign several players in the transfer market. Real Madrid has clear financial resources compared to Barcelona, so that Real Madrid can maximize the process of recruiting new players.

Recruiting new players will still be carried out by Real Madrid in order to improve the quality of the team after failing to win the La Liga trophy and the Champions League trophy last season. This season Real Madrid has lost several players, the arrival of new players is needed by Real Madrid in this transfer market.
Several players have been brought in on different lines, Real Madrid still needs additional players in the striker position to improve the quality of attack. Barcelona is slowly starting to improve after bringing in several quality players last season, Barcelona success in winning a trophy last season was thanks to Xavi gentle touch. Barcelona and Real Madrid are still trying to maximize the strength of the team to maintain the opportunity to get a trophy at the end of the season.

I agree with you on the fact that all the clubs are going to be hunting for players in the transfer market and Real Madrid haven't performed below the club's expectation and also haven't missed out in the previous title holding to Barcelona,  Real Madrid will do everything possible to make sure on bringing in the best players that will push the club to a better position in both la Liga and champion league.

Be that as it may,  we also need to note,  that not only Real Madrid that will be signing new players against next season,  other clubs will also be shopping for new hand on board to better their clubs lots in the current season.

[skarais]

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There is no luck and they are too focused on chasing the Champions League, so Real Madrid's appearance in La Liga is not fully concentrated. Entering the second half of the season, they also experienced a decline in performance and suffered several defeats which caused their points to be further away from Barcelona. This season they have good strength compared to Barcelona and there are good hopes for next season for Real Madrid.

I don't think Real Madrid is any better than Barcelona after Benzema went to the Arab Pro League. Real Madrid do not have a suitable striker next season as Asensio has also gone to Ligue 1 and joined PSG. No real striker has signed for Real Madrid to replace their best striker, but they have had a good midfielder since signing Jude Bellingham.

If you compare Real Madrid vs Barcelona, ​​then I think Barcelona are still quite ready to win the La Liga title next season. They lost Busquets and Jordi Alba, but Barcelona still have a suitable replacement for the two senior players next season. La Liga is even more exciting when both teams have great strikers, but I think it's difficult for Real Madrid players to stop Lewandowski from top scorer without Benzema.

[emrecemsan]

It is true that Real Madrid lost their focus on the La Liga title in the previous season. This made things much easier for Barcelona to just dominate the league and become champions. But even though Real Madrid moved their focus to the Champions League mostly they still couldn't have the success they wanted. They even got a really embarrassing result against Manchester City in Etihad. There was no trace of the Real Madrid we knew in 2021/2022 season I'm afraid.

However we watched Real Madrid balance both tournaments at the same time in that season. This is a thing that they can do so they had better focus on bringing back the same spirit with Ancelotti.

[BRINIRHA]

I understand the current state of Real Madrid and I just want to hear from all my friends. For me, Real Madrid's finances have not fully recovered at this time after having to pay a loan to repair the stadium. But so far we also know that Real Madrid is also still able to bring in Jude Bellingham from Dortmund at a very fantastic fee.

To be honest, so I also can't say it's easy to be able to bring in Mbappe because yes, with various aspects that are divided for the needs that exist within the scope of the club, for now Mbappe's transfer feels very impossible. Especially with the costs you mentioned, it's even too much for players whose contracts end next year.

not having to bring in Mbappe but being able to sign Bellingham from Dortmund is more than enough because it will only waste time waiting for Mbappe unfinished problems and will only waste too much money to get a player like Mbappe who does not sure make a good contribution to Madrid.
we have to try to forget the rumor about Madrid getting Mbappe because it's really just an not sure story.

Indeed, if we follow the developments regarding Mbappe and Real Madrid then we do not see any developments in the transfer market this summer. So I also prefer to conclude that Real Madrid are waiting for Mbappe's contract to expire next season. Real Madrid seems to want to get Mbappe when Mbappe is on a free transfer. Maybe Real Madrid have spoken to Mbappe's agent. But on the one hand PSG are still struggling to get Mbappe to extend the contract. But Mbappe is still adamant not to renew the contract. Well things are getting dicey. But Real Madrid still haven't found a suitable player to replace Benzema. I personally am still confused by Real Madrid's current actions.

[Falconer]

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Hazard is a reference that money cannot buy prime time, meaning that when Hazard was bought from Chelsea by Madrid in 2019, Zidane was behind this scenario. Zidane wants the Belgian player's service to strengthen Los Blancos during his coaching period, of course Zidane has also prepared a suitable scheme and tactics for Hazard in the Madrid squad. However, the slow adaptation process coupled with prolonged injuries was the main factor in Hazard performance decreasing slowly, in the end Hazard was given a free transfer status because Madrid no longer extended his current contract. I agree with your sentence that he failed miserably at Madrid during his 4 year career.

The striker position left by Benzema was temporarily covered by Joselu and my prediction was only for a moment, before Madrid made official the new signing of Mbabpe.

I can't deny that in the end Hazard was another worst signing for Real Madrid in recent seasons. Hazard did not contribute much to Real Madrid's game after being brought in from Chelsea, it was a very bad experience for the player and detrimental for Real Madrid.

Of course I don't expect some of Real Madrid's current expensive signings to also end in failure. Jude Bellingham is one of two high-priced midfielders that Real Madrid have signed in recent seasons, the first being Aurélien Tchouameni. I don't expect either of them to fail at Real Madrid, but Aurélien Tchouaméni may face a difficult challenge next season considering the battle for a place in the main squad.

[AakZaki]

~snip~
Even if he plays for ATM next season I don't think the atmosphere would be cool for him in that team, his body language isn't the same as of when he started playing for the a
Atletico Madrid team (IMO), but who knows what might happen before the kick off of next season.

Of course with a game like that Diego Simeone should be able to beat his selfishness. But indeed I don't really understand what the problem is, of course it is detrimental to Atletico. With the most expensive transfer Banderol and Joao Felix having the ability that I consider good it would be very detrimental if he did leave. At Chelsea he failed because of other factors, so I think if he stays at Atletico there are two possibilities. He will succeed, he feels comfortable, or he will fail because Joao already has no feeling of comfort.

[wmaurik]

not having to bring in Mbappe but being able to sign Bellingham from Dortmund is more than enough because it will only waste time waiting for Mbappe unfinished problems and will only waste too much money to get a player like Mbappe who does not sure make a good contribution to Madrid.
we have to try to forget the rumor about Madrid getting Mbappe because it's really just an not sure story.

It seems I also agree that Real Madrid must forget about Mbappe this summer because Real Madrid must be able to use this summer wisely enough to get the players they want with greater certainty. Instead of waiting for players who are still uncertain to come into the team, because now not only is Mbappe a good player for Real Madrid, but there are many other players who might also be very suitable for Real Madrid even though you have also said that Bellingham is actually more than enough for Real Madrid.

[BRINIRHA]

~snip~
Even if he plays for ATM next season I don't think the atmosphere would be cool for him in that team, his body language isn't the same as of when he started playing for the a
Atletico Madrid team (IMO), but who knows what might happen before the kick off of next season.

Of course with a game like that Diego Simeone should be able to beat his selfishness. But indeed I don't really understand what the problem is, of course it is detrimental to Atletico. With the most expensive transfer Banderol and Joao Felix having the ability that I consider good it would be very detrimental if he did leave. At Chelsea he failed because of other factors, so I think if he stays at Atletico there are two possibilities. He will succeed, he feels comfortable, or he will fail because Joao already has no feeling of comfort.

the relationship between Diego Simeone and Joao felix has soured since the middle of last season. So Atletico Madrid decided to lend Joao Felix to the Premier League clubs at that time. And initially Man United was a team that wanted to borrow Man United. But the offer was rejected by Atletico Madrid. And then Chelsea also approached Joao Felix and finally managed to borrow J. Felix. And J.Felix's contribution at Chelsea is also quite good. he was just unlucky because Chelsea's condition at that time was really chaotic. even for half a season there he had to adapt to 2 new coaches namely Potter and Lampard. And then the moment of the new Chelsea coach came along. it turns out that J.Felix is ​​also not included in the list of players that the new Chelsea coach wants. So that J. Felix was returned to Atletico Madrid. but it's a shame it seems that Diego Simeone also still doesn't like J.Felix. So the fate of J. Felix is ​​still uncertain. Somehow this very good player is difficult for these coaches (Diego Simeone and Mauricio Pochettino) to accept. In fact, from my point of view, J. Felix is ​​a pretty good player.

[Falconer]

-snip-

It seems I also agree that Real Madrid must forget about Mbappe this summer because Real Madrid must be able to use this summer wisely enough to get the players they want with greater certainty. Instead of waiting for players who are still uncertain to come into the team, because now not only is Mbappe a good player for Real Madrid, but there are many other players who might also be very suitable for Real Madrid even though you have also said that Bellingham is actually more than enough for Real Madrid.

Kylian Mbappe has no doubts about Real Madrid, but so far Real Madrid have not wanted to pay PSG too much for his transfer. PSG wants any team to pay dearly for Kylian Mbappe, but I think Real Madrid prefers to step down and focus on other players until Mbappe's contract expires at the end of next season.

We have the possibility of signing Mbappe for free if negotiations with the player go well, but PSG will definitely not let Mbappe go for free for any reason. I believe PSG will try to sell Mbappe and make a profit, so Real Madrid won't 100% put him first.

[lalabotax]

Kylian Mbappe has no doubts about Real Madrid, but so far Real Madrid have not wanted to pay PSG too much for his transfer. PSG wants any team to pay dearly for Kylian Mbappe, but I think Real Madrid prefers to step down and focus on other players until Mbappe's contract expires at the end of next season.

Actually, both Mbappe, Real Madrid, and PSG also want Mbappe to go to Real Madrid. however, they also have their own concept and target of the move. PSG wants Real Madrid to offer Mbappe this season with an offer that is high enough to bring in the star player. because PSG knows that there is only one goal for Mbappe to leave PSG, namely Real Madrid. but on the other hand, Real Madrid doesn't want to spend so much money to bring Mbappe to their club, instead they want to get Mbappe's contract when his contract at PSG is nearing the end of next season. It's a dilemma. Every club, of course, doesn't want to feel at a loss for the departure of their star player and vice versa, every club also wants to get the maximum benefit from the arrival of the star player.

[Ndabagi01]

Kylian Mbappe has no doubts about Real Madrid, but so far Real Madrid have not wanted to pay PSG too much for his transfer. PSG wants any team to pay dearly for Kylian Mbappe, but I think Real Madrid prefers to step down and focus on other players until Mbappe's contract expires at the end of next season.

A club like Real Madrid cannot keep waiting for one player because of his potential and performance in football. Kylian Mbappe is a fantastic player who will be expected to have the highest transfer market worth this transfer window. With the current fees on Mbappe, no club will be able to sign him. If the legendary Real Madrid cannot sign him, I'm afraid PSG will lose him as well if they do not accept the offer from another team.

[Slow death]

~snip~
Even if he plays for ATM next season I don't think the atmosphere would be cool for him in that team, his body language isn't the same as of when he started playing for the a
Atletico Madrid team (IMO), but who knows what might happen before the kick off of next season.

Of course with a game like that Diego Simeone should be able to beat his selfishness. But indeed I don't really understand what the problem is, of course it is detrimental to Atletico. With the most expensive transfer Banderol and Joao Felix having the ability that I consider good it would be very detrimental if he did leave. At Chelsea he failed because of other factors, so I think if he stays at Atletico there are two possibilities. He will succeed, he feels comfortable, or he will fail because Joao already has no feeling of comfort.

the relationship between Diego Simeone and Joao felix has soured since the middle of last season. So Atletico Madrid decided to lend Joao Felix to the Premier League clubs at that time. And initially Man United was a team that wanted to borrow Man United. But the offer was rejected by Atletico Madrid. And then Chelsea also approached Joao Felix and finally managed to borrow J. Felix. And J.Felix's contribution at Chelsea is also quite good. he was just unlucky because Chelsea's condition at that time was really chaotic. even for half a season there he had to adapt to 2 new coaches namely Potter and Lampard. And then the moment of the new Chelsea coach came along. it turns out that J.Felix is ​​also not included in the list of players that the new Chelsea coach wants. So that J. Felix was returned to Atletico Madrid. but it's a shame it seems that Diego Simeone also still doesn't like J.Felix. So the fate of J. Felix is ​​still uncertain. Somehow this very good player is difficult for these coaches (Diego Simeone and Mauricio Pochettino) to accept. In fact, from my point of view, J. Felix is ​​a pretty good player.

I agree with what you said, I also see João Felix as a good player, and Pochentino and Simieone are coaches who, in the teams they are coaches, have had strange choices and because of that they have not been able to win anything big like the Champions League and the local leagues constantly, just see that atlético madrid doesn't play very well, in all seasons atlético madrid is not a candidate to win la liga, so with simeone atlético madrid stopped in time, it doesn't have any great future. That's why joao felix would do very well if he didn't return to play for atlético madrid.

as for chelsea i would say the same thing, you can't expect anything big from chelsea with pochentino in charge, at most perhaps chelsea will be able to stay in 4th place in the premeier league, i didn't see them making big signings but i saw them selling a lot of players, so it's not as if joao felix was going to lose anything by leaving chelsea, now the problem is that he already said that he would like to go to barcelona and that it was always his dream to go to barcelona, but i doubt that atlético madrid would facilitate a selling him to barcelona, so we'll see joao felix sitting on the bench at atletico madrid