Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[bryant.coleman]

It's unlikely that they will be joined. RF needs a reliable buffer state on the borders, to separate from NATO shills.

Then a semi-independent state similar to Abkhazia or South Ossetia can be created. Almost all the citizens will possess Russian passports, thereby making them eligible to the Russian salaries and benefits.

[niothor]

I bet on the 9th of May 2015 , their situation will be the same ( living standard i mean).

If they join Russia, then their living standards would definitely change for the better. Pensions and salaries will increase by many times, and they will qualify for generous welfare benefits such as the maternity capital.

And those money will come from?
Why would salaries increase just because they are not under Ukraine rule?

Will their productivity increase out of the blue? =)))))

Now really , this Russian propaganda about wages and pension is just disgusting.

[247crypto]

this Russian propaganda about

... show me "Russian Federation Terrorist Troops" in Donbass, i see nothing on zello, youtube and ustream...

[niothor]

this Russian propaganda about

... show me "Russian Federation Terrorist Troops" in Donbass, i see nothing on zello, youtube and ustream...

I was talking about pensions and wages...
Go with your terrorists in donbass or in china or whatever you want as long as you keep me from saying "go to hell"

I'm talking about one thing and you pop in and quote me and you talk about your s***.
Don't do this again!

[247crypto]

... claims that Victor Yanukovych is the legitimate president of Ukraine.

Who is he?

[bryant.coleman]

Now really , this Russian propaganda about wages and pension is just disgusting.

lol..... Either ask the EU to raise the salaries and pensions in Ukraine. Else let Russia do the same. You can't have it either way. Either you pay for the expenses, or you back out.

[247crypto]

you keep me from saying "go to hell"

This topic is about Donetsk, Kharkov and Lugansk.

[niothor]

Now really , this Russian propaganda about wages and pension is just disgusting.

lol..... Either ask the EU to raise the salaries and pensions in Ukraine. Else let Russia do the same. You can't have it either way. Either you pay for the expenses, or you back out.

So , let me ask you something... can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?
Has this happen in the Abkhazia or South Ossetia you mentioned before?

No. It won't. Nobody can do this in a free economy. Not the EU not the Us not China not Russia.

[niothor]

you keep me from saying "go to hell"

This topic is about Donetsk, Kharkov and Lugansk.

Let's play by the rules of this forum.
Only English ! Remember this one?

[247crypto]

So , let me ask you something... can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?

Check salaries in Russia in last 10 Years in confront with Ukrainian salaries.

[247crypto]

Only English ! Remember this one?

Footage in Youtube is in original language usually.

[niothor]

Only English ! Remember this one?

Footage in Youtube is in original language usually.

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Ukrainians with Russian Flag?

And those?

Just on the last pages , not talking about all your post in all the threads covering Ukraine.

[bryant.coleman]

So , let me ask you something...

1) Can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?
2 ) Has this happen in the Abkhazia or South Ossetia you mentioned before?

1. Yes. Putin can raise the wages. Not out of the blue, but gradually. Russian industries get heavily subsidized gas. If the industries in Lugansk and Donetsk can get the same, then the wages can be raised by many times. Also remember that the taxes are much lower.

Pensions will be brought to the Russian levels (Around 6 times higher).

2) Yes. Check the salaries and pensions in Abkhazia. They are very close to the Russian average.

[niothor]

So , let me ask you something... can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?

Check salaries in Russia in last 10 Years in confront with Ukrainian salaries.

Check those in Abkhazia or South Ossetia , as the situation is close to what happened there.
Also the money spent on those regions.

[247crypto]

Fake anti jewish prescription.

[wizby]

Donetsk Pro-Russians Order Jews to 'Register or be Deported' for Supporting Kiev Rule
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donetsk-pro-russians-order-jews-register-be-deported-supporting-kiev-rule-1445111

[niothor]

So , let me ask you something...

1) Can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?
2 ) Has this happen in the Abkhazia or South Ossetia you mentioned before?

1. Yes. Putin can raise the wages. Not out of the blue, but gradually. Russian industries get heavily subsidized gas. If the industries in Lugansk and Donetsk can get the same, then the wages can be raised by many times. Also remember that the taxes are much lower.

Pensions will be brought to the Russian levels (Around 6 times higher).

2) Yes. Check the salaries and pensions in Abkhazia. They are very close to the Russian average.

And at what price?

Candidates also openly accused officials of corruption and warned of fraud during the election.

"Our bureaucrats drive expensive cars and build palaces for themselves — they are stealing what belongs to you," Khadzhimba said this week at a rally in Verkhnyaya Eshera, a village west of Sukhumi.

Shamba and Ankvab, who both hold senior government posts, admit that corruption is a problem and have promised to replace wrongdoers.

Khadzhimba and Shamba have also broached irregularities in the preparation by saying voter lists contain hundreds of dubious names, many clearly belonging to people who "died long ago."

The Black Sea region has seen a modest economic upswing since 2008, when Moscow recognized Abkhazia as independent following a short war with Georgia over its other separatist province, South Ossetia.

The Kremlin has since stationed thousands of troops and spent large amounts of money in both regions. In Abkhazia, the funds cover half of all government spending.

ps , no it's not from nbc or bbc or abc .

[wizby]

Vkontakte Founder: Russia Wanted Personal Data of Euromaidan Protesters
http://mashable.com/2014/04/16/vkontakte-founder-fsb-euromaidan/

[247crypto]

[247crypto]

Vkontakte Founder: Russia Wanted Personal Data of Euromaidan Protesters
http://mashable.com/2014/04/16/vkontakte-founder-fsb-euromaidan/

Fuck You with your OFF TOPIC!

Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk