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July 25, 2021, 09:15:51 PM Last edit: July 25, 2021, 09:54:36 PM by arallmuus |
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Could you explain to me why it says 1x when it should be 1.21 ?
Because it is 1x? your image shows that the crash point was 1x instead of 1.21 so the verifier should show 1x as well
I tried to verify two random results from the crash with btcgosu verifier and it shows me the exact result as the crash point https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/4ad3d6965eb613968f289c5e330f424b3bc1fdc136c082be6265f8731d00c1db 13199c23eedd3388a09c40aefbbca1ecf72b3db87502fd6d27e6bb612a0fc434 Try to verify yours with this verifier ya and they told me to check the history stuff
Yeah they barely know anything technical at all
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Hi, i just registered because i have an issue with your crash game. I am verifying all of my bets Alot of my bets cant be verified because it doesnt provide the same outcome as it should be.. https://imgur.com/a/OUAw0xhd4fcc1e5422c54a28aeae4fdd17a221113bba644ce8a98eea5df2c96c4d52854 Could you explain to me why it says 1x when it should be 1.21 ? Probably you bet 0 aka demo bet that can not be found on bet history and made a real bet on the next round which was 1x.
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-snip- Of course the idea of roobet will have greater potential in the future, and indeed this is still a cons because some users don't want KYC to exist and turn off some who refuse KYC. -snip-
I think sooner or later all online casinos will require KYC if they want to have a valid license. Roobet is because of its location probably just one of the first larger casinos, but that will certainly follow many more - if the casinos are not operated without a license, which of course can then bring other problems with it, also for the players. Well, Roobet is on the right path regarding this matter. Besides, this is a great advantage to us since there is a possibility that will help us against hacker and scammer who will visit on the site because they are always afraid to submit documents. I also believed that perhaps most the licensed gambling casinos will move on this way, the safer from any harm. There is no point we were afraid of the KYC if you will trust the gambling site you use.
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July 25, 2021, 11:37:50 PM Last edit: July 25, 2021, 11:48:27 PM by mikii9 |
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Could you explain to me why it says 1x when it should be 1.21 ?
Because it is 1x? your image shows that the crash point was 1x instead of 1.21 so the verifier should show 1x as well
I tried to verify two random results from the crash with btcgosu verifier and it shows me the exact result as the crash point https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/https://i.imgur.com/OhbjnMw.png4ad3d6965eb613968f289c5e330f424b3bc1fdc136c082be6265f8731d00c1db https://i.imgur.com/Zv8HNXf.png13199c23eedd3388a09c40aefbbca1ecf72b3db87502fd6d27e6bb612a0fc434 Try to verify yours with this verifier ya and they told me to check the history stuff
Yeah they barely know anything technical at all Thats the thing, they literally pick random numbers to not crash when it should crash. I'm getting the same crash as you with ur hash; Now try with bfd2a0ec80bf2ecdec560e4dbecfc46f4baef01015787719c7def08c74c0bf9e what are you getting with this one please. ? Hi, i just registered because i have an issue with your crash game. I am verifying all of my bets Alot of my bets cant be verified because it doesnt provide the same outcome as it should be.. https://imgur.com/a/OUAw0xhhttps://i.imgur.com/ewyPgru.pngd4fcc1e5422c54a28aeae4fdd17a221113bba644ce8a98eea5df2c96c4d52854 Could you explain to me why it says 1x when it should be 1.21 ? Probably you bet 0 aka demo bet that can not be found on bet history and made a real bet on the next round which was 1x. Hash is bfd2a0ec80bf2ecdec560e4dbecfc46f4baef01015787719c7def08c74c0bf9e I bet 25 x 100, it shows 209,14 on both sites to verify hashes, but unfortunately on roobet it says 1.00x again ? mind to explain to me please https://i.imgur.com/HqXZeaA.png
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July 25, 2021, 11:59:42 PM |
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-snip Thats the thing, they literally pick random numbers to not crash when it should crash. I'm getting the same crash as you with ur hash; Now try with bfd2a0ec80bf2ecdec560e4dbecfc46f4baef01015787719c7def08c74c0bf9e what are you getting with this one please. ? It shows 1x on my end and this is the public key 0000000000000000000fa3b65e43e4240d71762a5bf397d5304b2596d116859c (put this in the client seed tab). I assume this is the same key for everyone else because it is crash. So what is the crash point of this hash? There is probably some sort of error with the seed hash if the crash point is not 1x and I doubt that players in Roobet actually pay any attention to it
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Take a look at that : https://i.imgur.com/SfrPJgd.png3.40 - 1.82 - 1.00 - 1.00 - 1.28 - 1.23 - 4.75 - 5.45 - 1.70 - 1.35 - 3.46 - 1.51 after verifying the bets with the site again : https://i.imgur.com/yTvdgLt.png3.40 - 1.82 - 1.43 - 1.31 - 1.28 - 1.23 - 4.75 - 5.45 - 1.70 - 1.35 - 3.46 - 1.51 -snip Thats the thing, they literally pick random numbers to not crash when it should crash. I'm getting the same crash as you with ur hash; Now try with bfd2a0ec80bf2ecdec560e4dbecfc46f4baef01015787719c7def08c74c0bf9e what are you getting with this one please. ? It shows 1x on my end and this is the public key 0000000000000000000fa3b65e43e4240d71762a5bf397d5304b2596d116859c (put this in the client seed tab). I assume this is the same key for everyone else because it is crash. So what is the crash point of this hash? There is probably some sort of error with the seed hash if the crash point is not 1x and I doubt that players in Roobet actually pay any attention to it 209,14 is the crash point of this hash, not 1x. i am using https://crash.bet/statistic/roobet-crash-statistics/ to check hashes, working with all crash sites, only having issue with roobet..
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Take a look at that : https://i.imgur.com/SfrPJgd.png3.40 - 1.82 - 1.00 - 1.00 - 1.28 - 1.23 - 4.75 - 5.45 - 1.70 - 1.35 - 3.46 - 1.51 after verifying the bets with the site again : https://i.imgur.com/yTvdgLt.png3.40 - 1.82 - 1.43 - 1.31 - 1.28 - 1.23 - 4.75 - 5.45 - 1.70 - 1.35 - 3.46 - 1.51 -snip Thats the thing, they literally pick random numbers to not crash when it should crash. I'm getting the same crash as you with ur hash; Now try with bfd2a0ec80bf2ecdec560e4dbecfc46f4baef01015787719c7def08c74c0bf9e what are you getting with this one please. ? It shows 1x on my end and this is the public key 0000000000000000000fa3b65e43e4240d71762a5bf397d5304b2596d116859c (put this in the client seed tab). I assume this is the same key for everyone else because it is crash. So what is the crash point of this hash? There is probably some sort of error with the seed hash if the crash point is not 1x and I doubt that players in Roobet actually pay any attention to it 209,14 is the crash point of this hash, not 1x. i am using https://crash.bet/statistic/roobet-crash-statistics/ to check hashes, working with all crash sites, only having issue with roobet.. @mikii9 this is definitely an interesting find, but have you raised this issue with the support and if you did what answer did they give you for this issue. Also yea many player’s including me don’t really look at it, but I’m not going to doubt Roobet intentions because they seem to be a legit site, so do share support team response as that should clear the matter for all of us.
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July 26, 2021, 08:07:31 AM |
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Besides, this is a great advantage to us since there is a possibility that will help us against hacker and scammer who will visit on the site because they are always afraid to submit documents.
The fact that a platform requires KYC has absolutely nothing to do with whether the site can be hacked or whether scams take place there - unfortunately. Just look at the hacks of the exchanges in the last time, without exception all exchanges had required KYC and were hacked anyway. A hacker does not usually create an account beforehand KYC has no advantages for the user in my opinion, quite the opposite. But I understand that KYC is required, especially where there are FIAT interfaces.
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July 26, 2021, 10:24:22 AM |
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I did another 10 checks on the roobet's crash with btcgosu verifier as well as the link that you gave and all of it shows the exact same result as the crash point. So the error on that particular hash could be on Roobet's system and it probably showed an incorrect hash so the verifier gave a different result when the hash was verified I personally dont think that there is an ill intention of trying to manipulate the result though just some sort of error. It is worth to be reported but unless you can get a hold directly to their tech team then the live support probably wont have any clue of what you are reporting to them but have you raised this issue with the support and if you did what answer did they give you for this issue.
The live support barely knows anything. I have had unpleasant experiences with them, they will answer your question only based on their SOP
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July 26, 2021, 10:33:24 AM Last edit: July 26, 2021, 10:46:03 AM by mikii9 |
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I did another 10 checks on the roobet's crash with btcgosu verifier as well as the link that you gave and all of it shows the exact same result as the crash point. So the error on that particular hash could be on Roobet's system and it probably showed an incorrect hash so the verifier gave a different result when the hash was verified I personally dont think that there is an ill intention of trying to manipulate the result though just some sort of error. It is worth to be reported but unless you can get a hold directly to their tech team then the live support probably wont have any clue of what you are reporting to them but have you raised this issue with the support and if you did what answer did they give you for this issue.
The live support barely knows anything. I have had unpleasant experiences with them, they will answer your question only based on their SOP yes as i said, it mostly gives the exact same crash results except for something like 2-3 times every 100 games which .. are 1x when they shouldnt be. Around 3-4 1x every 100 games when it should be only 1 per 100 game, and half of them are giving different results on crash.site when i verify.. You said it's just an error, i did bet 25$ on this particular game and i didnt receive those 2500$, it also made me lose my autobet 25$ x 100. I'm not complaining about losing, i'm trying to understand why i lost when i should have won after verifying those results. i'll try to send an email to them and wait for their reply then.
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I just sent them an email, i'm waiting or their reply now, if anyone know what is going on; don't hesitate to post please
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I just sent them an email, i'm waiting or their reply now, if anyone know what is going on; don't hesitate to post please
Meaning you have posted here first before sending them an Email? well that's the best thing you do asking their support so roobet will check your issue and come to conclusion and solution.
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July 26, 2021, 10:52:12 AM |
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I just sent them an email, i'm waiting or their reply now, if anyone know what is going on; don't hesitate to post please
Meaning you have posted here first before sending them an Email? well that's the best thing you do asking their support so roobet will check your issue and come to conclusion and solution. i contacted their live chat support before posting here, they kept linking me their own verifier on their site, so i asked here for help, since people on this forum usually have a better understanding of this game than me and obviously from their live chat support.
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July 26, 2021, 11:28:21 AM Last edit: July 26, 2021, 12:09:46 PM by mikii9 |
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This happened once again : https://i.imgur.com/1gLOOmX.png1.00 - 1.79 - 3.21 - 1.69 - 1.48 - 85.59 https://i.imgur.com/2QkkmhB.pngHash : 6b1ecf567083ee873deff0aa6147be20ffb6df337106b8cfa360612b8853df2e 1.29 - 1.79 - 3.21 - 1.69 - 1.48 - 85.59 Any help on this is welcome. Did they change the house edge to something higher, hence all those 1 popping up when they shouldnt be 1x? /edit : Once again ! https://i.imgur.com/s9OW3ua.png1.00 - 3.53 - 7.82 - 1.50 - 1.94 ... Hash : e6b69a4587b6ed05fe1211dfdf216a3cb2b05fcd55e3b832b349dc4322b321a0 https://i.imgur.com/sC9IEJG.png1.22 - 3.53 - 7.82 - 1.50 - 1.94 .. i believe its all about house edge, so they made a seed event, and changed the house edge ( adding tons of 1x ) in the middle of their run? Before people tell me it's legit, i've been playing crash since years, on roobet you literally have at least 6 1.00x every 100 games /edit, this is much worst than 6 1.00, i'm been taking a look, and they changed around 20 X every 100 games to 1.00X, what kind of house edge or stuff is that? I won't be coming back until all this stuff is cleared, this isn't how this is supposed to work at all !!
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Verified this with btcgosu verifier and the hash result shows the crash point at 1.29x The crash point for this hash should be at 1.22x according to btcgosu verifier as well I won't be coming back until all this stuff is cleared, this isn't how this is supposed to work at all !!
Yeah it isnt, the hash should show the same result as the verifier. I sent a PM to @Rhavar and @Webtricks, both of them are an expert on provably fair mechanism so they should probably know what is happening with this. If two verifier websites show the same result for the specific hash but it was crashing on 1x then its pretty weird though
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Verified this with btcgosu verifier and the hash result shows the crash point at 1.29x The crash point for this hash should be at 1.22x according to btcgosu verifier as well I won't be coming back until all this stuff is cleared, this isn't how this is supposed to work at all !!
Yeah it isnt, the hash should show the same result as the verifier. I sent a PM to @Rhavar and @Webtricks, both of them are an expert on provably fair mechanism so they should probably know what is happening with this. If two verifier websites show the same result for the specific hash but it was crashing on 1x then its pretty weird though well, potentially lost 20k $ on this "bug" to me it looks like a scam so far, lets wait for expert.
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here we go once again : https://i.imgur.com/vjsBUMx.pngHash : b3dc3a610c5364a4983d46cc0043a06449f8d44212a8751b8573c5893055d4c6 1.00 1.00 .. it should have been : 13.04 and 1.00 and of course someone did bet ALOT on this first 1.00 where it should have been a 13.04. Feels bad to lose all of my money on this casino, i literally took the time to read every reviews to be sure, their kyc stuff made me feel even more secure Another 1.00 right after i made my post : 40c09640ccb6e2516fca5a677521244d884af5201ff01f00ab18b1f74a4211ef should have been 1.67 but they gave it a 1.00 https://i.imgur.com/ERRbs57.pngagain aeaeb25aa01093709d6e686a7abf9da1a1c2371b2ff62cc3c986c69e792095f3 = 1.5 but they crashed it at 1.00 . https://i.imgur.com/LJn3wpM.png
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Strange to see that happened as well (about the result of verifier and the result of bets are different). But i do believe almost no one would spend their time to check every hash after the bet (you are one of those). But Roobet has a great reputation in gambling, i also doubt they are faked the result of game to scam people.
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Strange to see that happened as well (about the result of verifier and the result of bets are different). But i do believe almost no one would spend their time to check every hash after the bet (you are one of those). But Roobet has a great reputation in gambling, i also doubt they are faked the result of game to scam people.
well i spent the time to take a look because i lost with one of those 1x when it should have been a 209x
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July 26, 2021, 02:39:56 PM |
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-snip- Of course the idea of roobet will have greater potential in the future, and indeed this is still a cons because some users don't want KYC to exist and turn off some who refuse KYC. -snip-
I think sooner or later all online casinos will require KYC if they want to have a valid license. Roobet is because of its location probably just one of the first larger casinos, but that will certainly follow many more - if the casinos are not operated without a license, which of course can then bring other problems with it, also for the players. The same happened in exchanges, we all know that most exchanges did not ask KYC in the early days but they have to make it mandatory due to regulation since few years back. Now we are starting to see some casinos asking for KYC as well, and it can be something common in the near future. Of course it will bring some pro's and con's, but players has their own choice whether to accept it or not. By now we should start to get used to it since maybe in future almost all casino's either old or new will require this since maybe this is new requirements by the law to the casino to implement this order in future so for now if I where the gambler bettee quit if you can't do some of the requirements they ask. Well yeah player has their own choice but sin e government are now noticing the gambling crypto scene so expect that they will ask money from the gamblers ans maybe they sill.also regulatethinhs here. Maybe because the license is also because it is the most important regulation to be implemented, so indeed the government has now taken a role in this, whether we like it or not, we have to do it, about this will definitely happen in all gambling platforms for those who already have a license, therefore the rules must be implemented even though there is a lot of opposition from players because they still want anonymity. It seems that the current government will pay more attention to the official platform because this is an obligation because they are already located at the big point/.
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