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August 31, 2021, 05:15:25 PM |
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That was actually state-of-the-art not too long ago. You only had to upload the documents and the KYC-approved status was given.
However, due to the relative ease of forgery of identities, the regulations for the Exchanges are becoming tougher and tougher. Bitpanda - the Austrian exchange - uses live verification, for example, where you actually have your status checked with someone via video conference.
I have seen what you just described a long time ago but that video conference can still be faked in a way, some scammers aren't even scared using that even though their face is already there but in this case it's pretty easy to fake in my opinion, a fake beard and some make up could sometimes do the trick. KYC is useless if the con man is crafty.
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August 31, 2021, 05:45:51 PM |
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That was actually state-of-the-art not too long ago. You only had to upload the documents and the KYC-approved status was given.
However, due to the relative ease of forgery of identities, the regulations for the Exchanges are becoming tougher and tougher. Bitpanda - the Austrian exchange - uses live verification, for example, where you actually have your status checked with someone via video conference.
I have seen what you just described a long time ago but that video conference can still be faked in a way, some scammers aren't even scared using that even though their face is already there but in this case it's pretty easy to fake in my opinion, a fake beard and some make up could sometimes do the trick. KYC is useless if the con man is crafty. But at least it's stricter KYC with video conferencing than just uploading documents, but this is only used in super tight exchanges I do this often and only trusted IMO. But in the casino I didn't find anything like that but only documents were given and then waited for approval and it was easier, but whatever way the scammers sure could do it would still be much safer than any other way. So still the casino will not provide video conferencing during KYC.
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August 31, 2021, 08:32:18 PM |
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That was actually state-of-the-art not too long ago. You only had to upload the documents and the KYC-approved status was given.
However, due to the relative ease of forgery of identities, the regulations for the Exchanges are becoming tougher and tougher. Bitpanda - the Austrian exchange - uses live verification, for example, where you actually have your status checked with someone via video conference.
I have seen what you just described a long time ago but that video conference can still be faked in a way, some scammers aren't even scared using that even though their face is already there but in this case it's pretty easy to fake in my opinion, a fake beard and some make up could sometimes do the trick. KYC is useless if the con man is crafty. But at least it's stricter KYC with video conferencing than just uploading documents, but this is only used in super tight exchanges I do this often and only trusted IMO. But in the casino I didn't find anything like that but only documents were given and then waited for approval and it was easier, but whatever way the scammers sure could do it would still be much safer than any other way. So still the casino will not provide video conferencing during KYC. So far i didnt able to see some casinos implementing out video conferencing during KYC for now but i wont be surprised if we would really be heading there but for now lets just deal on whats the current system or requirements that they are asking on which i dont really see for someone to be bothered that much because basic information isnt something that you should be worried but you could always have the choice.
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August 31, 2021, 09:14:56 PM |
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So far i didnt able to see some casinos implementing out video conferencing during KYC for now but i wont be surprised if we would really be heading there but for now lets just deal on whats the current system or requirements that they are asking on which i dont really see for someone to be bothered that much because basic information isnt something that you should be worried but you could always have the choice.
^ Probably those big players will commonly fall on into this KYC procedure for sure, those who are willing to spend millions of dollars in gambling and to have less doubt by gambling company that the money you have used does not come from money laundering, it required a high level of KYC just like video conferencing. I am okay with the basic KYC just like a level 1 KYC on Roobet, can able gamble with a small amount and that is fine, there is no need to gamble a huge amount, and with the high KYC procedures. But yes, you have always a choice to choose better gambling that does nOt have KYC.
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September 01, 2021, 04:21:29 AM |
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That was actually state-of-the-art not too long ago. You only had to upload the documents and the KYC-approved status was given.
However, due to the relative ease of forgery of identities, the regulations for the Exchanges are becoming tougher and tougher. Bitpanda - the Austrian exchange - uses live verification, for example, where you actually have your status checked with someone via video conference.
I have seen what you just described a long time ago but that video conference can still be faked in a way, some scammers aren't even scared using that even though their face is already there but in this case it's pretty easy to fake in my opinion, a fake beard and some make up could sometimes do the trick. KYC is useless if the con man is crafty. At least, those KYC can prevent the scammers who do not have many skills to trick the exchange or the casino or other services and the scammers will think twice to verify themselves. I see that the exchange joined with the face verification company to verify the new members and they are trying to reduce the fake identity doing by people. If many companies use it that way, I think the scammers will not easily use fake documents because they need to do live verification using their cam or mobile phone. It is not just a selfie using a mobile phone but we need to hold our identity with a selfie.
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Reatim
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September 01, 2021, 04:35:31 AM |
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Is there still anyone who just asks for images of your ID card / Passport and then verifies the user? That was actually state-of-the-art not too long ago. You only had to upload the documents and the KYC-approved status was given. However, due to the relative ease of forgery of identities, the regulations for the Exchanges are becoming tougher and tougher. Bitpanda - the Austrian exchange - uses live verification, for example, where you actually have your status checked with someone via video conference. well we know how strict Australian government is so yeah they will implement such KYC verification with video conference specially if the involved amount is Big and must be regulated. But for me personally , i will not use this kind of exchange if there are others that available in my place but if not then either i will never trade ? or will comply to the KYC procedure .
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September 01, 2021, 10:35:39 AM |
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That was actually state-of-the-art not too long ago. You only had to upload the documents and the KYC-approved status was given.
However, due to the relative ease of forgery of identities, the regulations for the Exchanges are becoming tougher and tougher. Bitpanda - the Austrian exchange - uses live verification, for example, where you actually have your status checked with someone via video conference.
I have seen what you just described a long time ago but that video conference can still be faked in a way, some scammers aren't even scared using that even though their face is already there but in this case it's pretty easy to fake in my opinion, a fake beard and some make up could sometimes do the trick. KYC is useless if the con man is crafty. But at least it's stricter KYC with video conferencing than just uploading documents, but this is only used in super tight exchanges I do this often and only trusted IMO. But in the casino I didn't find anything like that but only documents were given and then waited for approval and it was easier, but whatever way the scammers sure could do it would still be much safer than any other way. So still the casino will not provide video conferencing during KYC. So far i didnt able to see some casinos implementing out video conferencing during KYC for now but i wont be surprised if we would really be heading there but for now lets just deal on whats the current system or requirements that they are asking on which i dont really see for someone to be bothered that much because basic information isnt something that you should be worried but you could always have the choice. This is to much I know some platform like coins.ph almost implementing this kind of procedure but I don't really think that its acceptable on casinos since this is totally more risky since its more useful for frauds to have that private information to us and I will not play if some casino trusted or not require that kind of verification since I think I cannot sleep tight thinking about the possible risk I might encounter in future.
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September 01, 2021, 12:08:44 PM |
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So far i didnt able to see some casinos implementing out video conferencing during KYC for now but i wont be surprised if we would really be heading there but for now lets just deal on whats the current system or requirements that they are asking on which i dont really see for someone to be bothered that much because basic information isnt something that you should be worried but you could always have the choice.
^ Probably those big players will commonly fall on into this KYC procedure for sure, those who are willing to spend millions of dollars in gambling and to have less doubt by gambling company that the money you have used does not come from money laundering, it required a high level of KYC just like video conferencing. I am okay with the basic KYC just like a level 1 KYC on Roobet, can able gamble with a small amount and that is fine, there is no need to gamble a huge amount, and with the high KYC procedures. But yes, you have always a choice to choose better gambling that does nOt have KYC. For whales that might be expected, I don't know if that's the right term for that because video conferencing is involving two or more people, the KYC regarding video is for an individual only (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm fine with Level 1 and 2 only as I able regularly too and I guess level has more features that may be unlocked.
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September 01, 2021, 12:32:50 PM |
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I actually think Online casinos must adapt a variable KYC verification system, where they require you to verify in different levels. So let's say you only wager say, $1000 per week.. then no verification is necessary, but when you wager say $5000 per week you have to verify on level 1 (ID) and a photo where you pose with the ID ..... and level 2 = $10 000 per week = ID / Proof of address / Bank Statements etc. etc.. The object of this is to prevent money laundering.. right, well why will a serious money launderer go through all the trouble to create multiple Alt accounts to launder say +/- $50 per account per week. (If it is even possible to wager $1000 with $50)
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September 01, 2021, 03:22:43 PM |
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This is to much I know some platform like coins.ph almost implementing this kind of procedure but I don't really think that its acceptable on casinos since this is totally more risky since its more useful for frauds to have that private information to us and I will not play if some casino trusted or not require that kind of verification since I think I cannot sleep tight thinking about the possible risk I might encounter in future.
It's a very difficult choice, you can decide later whether this will be continued or not because the casino asking for documents is still a pro and con, especially with video conferencing I don't know what will happen later. I know this will become a new policy in the future, of course I will have to make a choice if future implementations occur, but I want the casino to remain anonymous in the long run.
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its one of the risk because small amounts doesnt mean or automatically means zero chance of winning high multipliers where we do see situations where it do happen and since you do make use of some fake information then you would really be having some serious problem on here.
So it does depend on your tolerance on how much you can risk on but if you are prepared on using VPN then dont be surprised if they would locked you out once caught.
Of course, everyone has a chance to win something, it is definitely not something that we should not be hopeless about, I have a small amount and I still end up gambling as much as I can and sometimes end up with high multiplier stuff as well, mainly on slots but it is still a good feeling, I have done my fair share of 999x on dice games as well, and it is definitely a great feeling. Long story short everyone has a winning chance, think about it like it is the lottery, if you are good enough then you are going to be winning, based on luck, but if you have 50 million tickets then you do have a bigger chance then someone with 1 ticket, yet it still doesn't mean that 5 million tickets will win or 1 ticket will lose, anyone can win in a lottery. That's the sort of thing that I really like and admire, it is definitely going to be possible for a poor person to uplift their life in gambling if they are lucky enough but also a rich person to become poor, anything could happen.
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I actually think Online casinos must adapt a variable KYC verification system, where they require you to verify in different levels. So let's say you only wager say, $1000 per week.. then no verification is necessary, but when you wager say $5000 per week you have to verify on level 1 (ID) and a photo where you pose with the ID ..... and level 2 = $10 000 per week = ID / Proof of address / Bank Statements etc. etc.. The object of this is to prevent money laundering.. right, well why will a serious money launderer go through all the trouble to create multiple Alt accounts to launder say +/- $50 per account per week. (If it is even possible to wager $1000 with $50) Anti money laundering regulations vary a great deal by the country where the casino or the player is located, or by the gambling license that the casino holds. Different jurisdictions have differing definitions of anti money laundering activities. Even within the United States, requirements may vary from state to state.
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September 01, 2021, 10:46:35 PM |
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I actually think Online casinos must adapt a variable KYC verification system, where they require you to verify in different levels. So let's say you only wager say, $1000 per week.. then no verification is necessary, but when you wager say $5000 per week you have to verify on level 1 (ID) and a photo where you pose with the ID ..... and level 2 = $10 000 per week = ID / Proof of address / Bank Statements etc. etc..
This is a great idea in my opinion. Some crypto casinos usually require KYC after a certain limit is reached while some others don't set any limits whatsoever for withdrawal purposes, but KYC for wagering is different. However, $1000 per week(No Verification) which you suggested is way too low due to reasons like races, bonuses etc. Something around $5k - $10k per week would be optimal in my opinion. Crypto casinos need to come up with such creative solutions when they are forced to obey regulations.
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September 01, 2021, 10:52:07 PM |
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Feel free to try mate! However, I have some experience withdraw a thousand $ on this casino (Roobet, Stake, DuelBits, Rollbits) don't really need to do "KYC" instant withdraw. Like I said, this topic "KYC" is a lame topic no need to discuss anymore because we all know there always have some "KYC" if you read on every casino policy. If people want really gambling without "KYC" tried on-chain gambling, while the gambling is on the chain using smart-contract but most of the time is lottery using RNG number will automatically send the fund to you if win without any KYC no matter how much money you're win.
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September 02, 2021, 05:14:03 AM |
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This is to much I know some platform like coins.ph almost implementing this kind of procedure but I don't really think that its acceptable on casinos since this is totally more risky since its more useful for frauds to have that private information to us and I will not play if some casino trusted or not require that kind of verification since I think I cannot sleep tight thinking about the possible risk I might encounter in future.
It's a very difficult choice, you can decide later whether this will be continued or not because the casino asking for documents is still a pro and con, especially with video conferencing I don't know what will happen later. I know this will become a new policy in the future, of course I will have to make a choice if future implementations occur, but I want the casino to remain anonymous in the long run. I Don't think that Roobet will implement such kind of KYC because that is too much to ask, sending some documents is enough unless maybe there is a big amount to claim and your account is something in question so it is a companies prerogative to seek for video requirements . but i don't think that roobet will ask this in normal withdrawal situation .
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September 02, 2021, 05:52:55 AM |
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This is to much I know some platform like coins.ph almost implementing this kind of procedure but I don't really think that its acceptable on casinos since this is totally more risky since its more useful for frauds to have that private information to us and I will not play if some casino trusted or not require that kind of verification since I think I cannot sleep tight thinking about the possible risk I might encounter in future.
It's a very difficult choice, you can decide later whether this will be continued or not because the casino asking for documents is still a pro and con, especially with video conferencing I don't know what will happen later. I know this will become a new policy in the future, of course I will have to make a choice if future implementations occur, but I want the casino to remain anonymous in the long run. I Don't think that Roobet will implement such kind of KYC because that is too much to ask, sending some documents is enough unless maybe there is a big amount to claim and your account is something in question so it is a companies prerogative to seek for video requirements . but i don't think that roobet will ask this in normal withdrawal situation . It can be accepted to send the documents if that gambler is winning a very big amount or deposit a big amount because Roobet does not want to get a problem if that money comes from the money launder. I think that will not just Roobet but also the other casino does that to make sure that their members are not related to the illegal activities. The casino will still be a place for people to play gambling and enjoy their time while people do not have to think about KYC because the casino is concerned with anonymous members. We do not have to worry about KYC as we can search for the other casino that will not ask about doing KYC for their members.
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September 02, 2021, 09:38:59 AM |
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I actually think Online casinos must adapt a variable KYC verification system, where they require you to verify in different levels. So let's say you only wager say, $1000 per week.. then no verification is necessary, but when you wager say $5000 per week you have to verify on level 1 (ID) and a photo where you pose with the ID ..... and level 2 = $10 000 per week = ID / Proof of address / Bank Statements etc. etc..
This is a great idea in my opinion. Some crypto casinos usually require KYC after a certain limit is reached while some others don't set any limits whatsoever for withdrawal purposes, but KYC for wagering is different. However, $1000 per week(No Verification) which you suggested is way too low due to reasons like races, bonuses etc. Something around $5k - $10k per week would be optimal in my opinion. Crypto casinos need to come up with such creative solutions when they are forced to obey regulations. This is a good thing because even though roobet have a lot of large amount of players that wage a lot of money but the problem is there's a lower wager players having a KYC level 1 with their platform is not too much heavy for their users but if a large amount deposited or withdrawn I guess this requires a KYC. By the way, I just want to share my recently I played with the match in sports in roobet good to see that they adopt the game of the e-sports too not only the sports I tried to bet with the match yesterday of V gaming and B8 they have a good interface so smooth all of the processes thumbs up to roobet.
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The time has passed quickly and roobet is becoming a cheeky and popular crypto casino among gamblers like it was some time back when they were organizing 1 billion bets art contest and now they are going to hit double numbers soon of 2 billion bets placed and now they are 1.93 billion approximately so not gonna take them long enough.What next big surprise we can expect from this achievement of roobet in market? Maybe some exciting promotional strategies on the way to celebrate that and prizes for community members.Awaiting for the same to be announced.
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Today I deposited some money on roobet wich cost me a total transaction fee of 0,12$. Now that I want to withdraw that money, roobet estimates a withdrawal transaction fee of 9$ if I choose the slow option and like 11$ for the fast option. That seems way too much to me. Can anybody elaborate on this ? Is Roobet sending transactions with 50sats/byte ?
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The time has passed quickly and roobet is becoming a cheeky and popular crypto casino among gamblers like it was some time back when they were organizing 1 billion bets art contest and now they are going to hit double numbers soon of 2 billion bets placed and now they are 1.93 billion approximately so not gonna take them long enough.What next big surprise we can expect from this achievement of roobet in market? Maybe some exciting promotional strategies on the way to celebrate that and prizes for community members.Awaiting for the same to be announced.
How fast roobet has grown i only thought it was a short time but there has been a lot in the past this roobet casino with so many promotions including summer ROO as well as various other contests but its the same festivities i am also expecting a surprising announcement about this 2B wagered being achieved then from that every moment will definitely be waiting for more communities that become big after becoming the best casino. This will continue to compete in class later, so roobet is one of the best choices.
edit Sporty Roo art contest just launched Hhampuz, I think it's still in celebration of sports betting celebration. Roobet.com |Sporty Roo Art Comp. ~$5000 up for grabs! | 10 Winners - 1 Month!
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