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February 23, 2020, 01:28:41 PM
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Aye. That was a good watch.

What struck me about the lead up and some of the commentary is that the one and only thing people had to say about Wilder was - that right hand,  when it was going to arrive, why Fury needs to be wary of it.

That doesn't really say much about the rest of him. Guess there isn't much to say. Going by his ear I guess his balance took a major knock. If that is true it was a proper show of toughness.
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February 23, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
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Fury absolutely dominated the bout and was patient. He controlled the tempo and just would not let Wilder off the hook. I initially thought the referee stopped the fight a couple of punches early but afterwards I realised the Wilder corner threw in the towel.

Fury can move very well for a 6ft 9in - fantastic boxing match



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February 23, 2020, 01:45:40 PM
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Going by his ear  
I first thought you mean that instance where Fury was sticking his tongue out as if he was licking Wilder's ear during a clinch. I can't remember what round that was. It's kinda gross to watch Cheesy

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I guess his balance took a major knock. If that is true it was a proper show of toughness.
It was hard looking at Wilder even in the first three rounds. It looks like he was always dragging his feet and ready to fall anytime.



Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.
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February 23, 2020, 02:09:43 PM
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Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.
After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.
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February 23, 2020, 02:18:16 PM
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Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.
After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.
I also have the same doubts that the can knock out the Wilder.

But as soon as Wilder hits the canvass, the complexion of the fight changes, Tyson Fury more confident but cautious with Wilder's right. But Deontay was disoriented and it seems he surrendered already as Fury completely dominated the fight.

For me no need for a trilogy, Fury might go heavy again and the same results, Wilder getting knock out maybe under 7 rounds.

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February 23, 2020, 02:51:31 PM
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There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time.

Fury and Joshua should be the next fight. I have no doubt whatsoever Fury will win within 5 or 6 rounds against Joshua and will go on to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

It is all over for Wilder. He is 34 years old, if he wants to rebuild his career he should take a long break then return fighting 3 or 4 handpicked lower ranked opponents then try to get one last shot at the title again.

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February 23, 2020, 03:34:29 PM
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WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING Cheesy.

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

Boxing is all about the money. They don't do these fights for fun, but it wasn't a KO win. Trilogys are what happens with most fights when it's one a piece, and not even that in this case with the first being a draw. If Fury is really the better fighter than I can't see why he wouldn't do it again. He seemed to offer it in the post-fight conference and I'm sure a rematch clause is in Wilder's contract anyway. Either way another fight is going to be a huge.

There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time.

Fury and Joshua should be the next fight. I have no doubt whatsoever Fury will win within 5 or 6 rounds against Joshua and will go on to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

It is all over for Wilder. He is 34 years old, if he wants to rebuild his career he should take a long break then return fighting 3 or 4 handpicked lower ranked opponents then try to get one last shot at the title again.

I don't think Fury was robbed. It was a fairly equal fight in my opinion but you're forgetting Fury was knocked down twice and he was lucky to get back up. Another round in the first fight and I doubt he would have got back up. People forget that anything can happen in boxing. Doesn't matter how tough you are or if you're unbeaten; one punch and it can all be over. Wilder was the favourite going into this  but it was obvious that punch to the ear that made it bleed threw him off for the rest of the right. I think a rematch would be right in this situation. First was a draw and this one was won by the coach throwing in the towel, although I'm sure Fury would have got a KO had it been allowed to continue. Fury should fight AJ and I'm sure he will at some point but not sure it would be before another Fury fight and likely the Wilder trilogy.

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Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

I just watched the replay and Wilder looks to be out of shape since the first round. Fury was just rolling through Wilder's right hand punches like they were nothing. His legs were simply not there and it could be due to a bad weight cut. I believe his corner knows that and threw the towel.  

He wasn't out of shape. That's what getting punched in the head/ear can do to you. Same thing happened in the Joshua fight.

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February 23, 2020, 03:40:12 PM
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Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.

I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

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February 23, 2020, 03:42:32 PM
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There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time..

Fury got knocked down twice during the first match and you think he is still worthy to win the match? Even if he dominated most of that fight Wilder equalized it by showing in front of the watched including the judges who has the power in the ring. However I do have to agree with you that a third match does not need to happen since we already know now who is the best in the ring and Fury showed that he can avoid the errors he have made during the first match. But it's really not the fighter's choice if they want another rematch from happening since if the fans are talking for another fight they know these boxers and promotes see money that will be pouring in onto the next possible fight.
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February 23, 2020, 04:23:36 PM
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After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.

I don't know if anyone has notice it but after watching the replay of the match you can see that Wilder at the beginning doesn't seem to look confident stepping in the ring, I didn't notice it during the first time and I'm not giving any reasons why Wilder got defeated but when I tried to analyze the replay you'll obviously see that he lacks confidence and Fury was the one throwing the punched while Wilder seems to be leaning in the defensive side maybe trying to feel the match. I don't know but this continued on to the rest of the rounds and Wilder didn't recover from it. He might got a little bit wary during this match maybe brought to by their previous match were Fury dominated the whole match but Wilder got lucky with a draw.

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February 23, 2020, 05:17:19 PM
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When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

Even if you knew nothing about nothing that's a pretty alarming signal. I've never seen that before. You'd think someone would have a root around in there before sending him back out.

It might turn out to be harmless enough but it makes you wonder about how diligent they are.

I wonder whether Fury will have another post triumph dive of his spirits or whether it'll spur him on to keep busy.
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February 23, 2020, 05:37:21 PM
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Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.
The fight was good during the first till third rounds but as you have said everything changed after the ear bleed of Wilder which i believe will literally make Wilder feel dizziness and i thnk the referee didn't stop the fight early in other to clarify peoples doubt.

With that been said, i somehow believed Fury seek Mike Tyson advise before the fight because Mike Tyson was spotted supporting him through the fight.



I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

Base on the message posted by sportbible there's chance for a third fight.


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February 23, 2020, 05:44:35 PM
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Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.
The fight was good during the first till third rounds but as you have said everything changed after the ear bleed of Wilder which i believe will literally make Wilder feel dizziness and i thnk the referee didn't stop the fight early in other to clarify peoples doubt.

With that been said, i somehow believed Fury seek Mike Tyson advise before the fight because Mike Tyson was spotted supporting him through the fight.

I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

Base on the message posted by sportbible there's chance for a third fight.
A third fight usually means they just do it for bringing in the money and not for the love of the competition. Roll Eyes
Just look at money mayweather and his rematches.
And yes, I heard Mike Tyson was going to be at the announcers table during the fight.
I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name. Cheesy

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February 23, 2020, 05:46:20 PM
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I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name. Cheesy

He's a proper student of boxing. Anyone passionate about it would be more turned on by Fury than Wilder. He has a rather more complete set of skills. Wilder's good for the spectacle but if you know it all by heart he probably makes you a bit wistful for less flashy and more skilled times.
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February 23, 2020, 05:59:14 PM
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Well, there's news popping around the Wilder has problems with his knees or something that has been bothering him entering the fight.

Well, I am not saying this is an excuse but things like this are normally coming out after the fight. Tyson has also his own share of rumored injuries before coming into the fight and even his trainer is saying that their fighter is not coming into the ring in 100% condition. But he adds that, "Every fighter, and not even fighters, in every sport. If you train hard, everybody has some kind of an injury, some kind of nick, and that’s just the truth." And that's indeed the truth; bringing it up post-fight will only make you a crybaby.

Before the fight took place, all I could see was a Wilder in his perfect form. But it quickly changed. Right after the very first bell rang, Tyson was already dictating the fight's tempo. And it went all throughout the fight until the towel was thrown from Wilder's corner. I don't think it was a nice decision. Wilder and his trainer themselves didn't agree with it either. Well, they could have risked a few more rounds to see whether their fighter would be able to turn the tide on their side or would be pummeled by the Gypsy King to more injuries.

Anyhow, a trilogy is always an option but that is not the most exciting I guess. The fight was one-sided right from the get-go. It was a complete domination by Fury. Wilder was not able to compose himself. Well, the other 3 belts are held by another British. AJ vs. Fury must be the highest demand from the boxing fans. Dillian Whyte is calling out Tyson but I guess he has to wait.
Fury surprised Wilder, Wilder thought that his right hand was enough to scare Fury and that he will not go after him the way it did, but it seems this time around Fury was completely convinced he could nullify the only asset Wilder has, and he was correct, except for a few punches in the first and second round Fury was able to avoid anything that came his way and it was complete domination from that point on, it was one of the most dominating victories that  I have seen Fury gave no opportunity to Wilder once he had him and used every opportunity to punch him or to tire him out, also he seemed to be in incredible shape since there was not a round in which he seemed to be out of breath and needed to rest despite the huge amount of punches he was throwing.

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February 23, 2020, 06:09:31 PM
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When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

Even if you knew nothing about nothing that's a pretty alarming signal. I've never seen that before. You'd think someone would have a root around in there before sending him back out.

It might turn out to be harmless enough but it makes you wonder about how diligent they are.

I wonder whether Fury will have another post triumph dive of his spirits or whether it'll spur him on to keep busy.

I think it was 2 or 3 rounds he went out without having the ear looked at by a doctor during the breaks, I felt his corner let him down and didn't really give too much attention to the risk's it could have posed there fighter. 

But again they we're probably focused on the $$$ rather then the well being of there fighter which is very sad to see.

It was a good call by the ref to stop when he did if the fight had gone on much longer I fear a few more hit's to the already bleeding ear could have resulted in something far far worse for him.

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February 23, 2020, 06:54:56 PM
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Fury and Joshua should be the next fight.

Or they make a trilogy. Because due to their contract, during 30 days Wilder could ask for a rematch and Fury count not disagree. But that wont be fair to other contestants, who wish to get these belts Smiley

But I guess they both need to make a match against someone else, before they meet again.

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February 23, 2020, 07:52:17 PM
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Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time..

Fury got knocked down twice during the first match and you think he is still worthy to win the match? Even if he dominated most of that fight Wilder equalized it by showing in front of the watched including the judges who has the power in the ring. However I do have to agree with you that a third match does not need to happen since we already know now who is the best in the ring and Fury showed that he can avoid the errors he have made during the first match. But it's really not the fighter's choice if they want another rematch from happening since if the fans are talking for another fight they know these boxers and promotes see money that will be pouring in onto the next possible fight.

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February 23, 2020, 08:04:08 PM
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Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.
After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.
I also have the same doubts that the can knock out the Wilder.

But as soon as Wilder hits the canvass, the complexion of the fight changes, Tyson Fury more confident but cautious with Wilder's right. But Deontay was disoriented and it seems he surrendered already as Fury completely dominated the fight.

For me no need for a trilogy, Fury might go heavy again and the same results, Wilder getting knock out maybe under 7 rounds.

They have a third match clause but since the fight is very much one-sided in favor of fury I don't think we need a trilogy just like that we don't need a trilogy for the Joshua Ruiz match, Fury should now go to Joshua's belt and  prove himself that he is the one king of the heavyweight, the world needs this match to happen.

Yes, the second fight was convincing enough that there is no need for a trilogy here.

But we will see, if there is a rematch clause, we might see one down the road. But I think Wilder needs to get some tune up fight first, just to get his confidence back before fighting Fury again. He can still recover from this lost, just like AJ did.

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February 23, 2020, 11:08:16 PM
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He can still recover from this lost, just like AJ did.
Please don't compare this to AJ vs Ruiz fight as that was clearly an upset and in the 2nd fight AJ proven it, while this fight, both fighters have equal chance of winning based on the betting odds, so I don't agree with a trilogy here but since it's part of the contract, we have no choice but to watch it.

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