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[Timelord2067]

Rugby Union.

I've just put bets on the following matches:

New Zealand NPC: Canterbury to beat Hawke's Bay, Wellington to beat Manawatu, Tasman over the Bay of Plenty

France Top 14: Toulon over Racing Metro 92, Toulouse to win against Lyon, La Rochelle to beat Brive

England Premiership Rugby: London Wasps to sting the Chiefs, Gloucester Rugby over London Irish, Bath Rugby to pour cold water over the Saracens

I don't always get to see the Rugby Highlights, so it's more based on previous wins, plus nitrogensports.eu (who I bet on Rugby League/Union games with) don't always carry all Union/League games.  (and their Guinness Pro 14 prices this week are all for varied scores, not just "to win"

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[aoluain]

Rugby Union.

I've just put bets on the following matches:

New Zealand NPC: Canterbury to beat Hawke's Bay, Wellington to beat Manawatu, Tasman over the Bay of Plenty

France Top 14: Toulon over Racing Metro 92, Toulouse to win against Lyon, La Rochelle to beat Brive

England Premiership Rugby: London Wasps to sting the Chiefs, Gloucester Rugby over London Irish, Bath Rugby to pour cold water over the Saracens

I don't always get to see the Rugby Highlights, so it's more based on previous wins, plus nitrogensports.eu (who I bet on Rugby League/Union games with) don't always carry all Union/League games.  (and their Guinness Pro 14 prices this week are all for varied scores, not just "to win"

I have done a few bets on the France Top14 tournament, strangely enough I would be
a little more familiar with the French teams than the English sides.

If I was betting on it this weekend I would probably go with Racing over Toulon and
agree with La Rochelle over Brieve.

Glasgow Warriors are ahead in the first game today of the United Championship, they
should win so I can do another bet.

[Timelord2067]

The Redcliffe Dolphins Rugby League and Club and have been confirmed as the newest team to enter the convoluted Australian NRL competition in 2022 with Wayne Bennett tipped to be their "foundation" coach.



According to Wikipedia, The Dolphins is their new name and the club was originally founded in 1947, accepted as part of the then Brisbane Premiership in 1960 they were accepted as a team in the Queensland Cup in 1996 and now in late 2021 have jumped ship to the NRL commencing in 2022.

The Dolphins last Premiership was in 2018 (but only as minor premiers) and were runners up in 2016 and before that 2012.

There's plenty of websites reporting on The Dolphins move to the NRL, with this site confirming Bennett signing a $2M three year deal.


Comment.

Now would have been the perfect opportunity for the NRL to negotiate with the State based teams to have a "relegation" system such as the English Football has. dumping the bottom rung teams and, guaranteeing the winners of the various state based competitions entry into the National competition.

As such, the North Queensland Cowboys and the (wooden spoon) Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs should have been relegated from the NRL back to their state based competitions.

Originally, the NRL was short for New South Wales Rugby League...  entering new sides into a bloated competition while keeping the same number of Sydney and New South Wales teams proves the NRL is still just a Sydney-centric competition...

[aoluain]

There has been talk that the Six Nations Championship (union) should have a 
relegation structure also. Italy being the weakest side with most years seeing them
failing to win a single game.

Georgia for example are in 12th spot in the world rankings ahead of Italy, maybe they should get
a spot in the competition, thats the argument anyway.

[Timelord2067]

Rugby Union:

In the Mitre 10 Cup in New Zealand, I have the following wagers on the games available this week-end:

• Bay of Plenty @ 1.14 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
• Hawke's Bay @ 1.36 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC
• Taranaki @ 1.16 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
• Otago @ 2.57 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.13 mBTC

On the other side this week-end in Premiership Rugby England, I'm going for:

• Leicester Tigers @ 1.43 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC
• Saracens @ 1.10 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
• Gloucester Rugby @ 1.43 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC

There has been talk that the Six Nations Championship (union) should have a relegation structure also

It makes a whole lot of sense compared to poaching teams from other competitions by depleting those comps of valuable teams.

[aoluain]

Im not familiar with the Mitre 10 Cup and I have to be extremely selective on what
I bet on, some would say thats what we should be doing anyway.

I assume they are all favourites? same with the premiership sides?

On the United Championship, I was listening to a short article about Leinster on the
radio yesterday and about how the pretty much own this competition and only a couple
of sides have a chance against them, Ulster this year, Munster and Glasgow Warriors.
They have massive depth in their squad with a few players competing for every position
and they are able to rotate players from week to week and not compromise the performance.

I'll be betting on Leinster every week as a default.

[Kakmakr]

I think it is safe to say that a bet against all the South African teams in the "United Rugby Championship" for the rest of the tournament, will be a good choice, because they simply cannot get used to the way the Northern refs are blowing the games. (Why they are not adapting their play, are simply a mystery to me.)

The Stormer win in my opinion ....was just a fluke.. and they cannot repeat performances like that.. week after week. The longer that they are away from home, the worst they play. 

[Timelord2067]

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I did a long post and I'm not sure what I did, but I lost the entire text...

In essence, Canterbury, Waikato, Wellington and Otago are the powerhouse teams in the New Zealand Rugby (Union) - a few of the teams also play against their Australian counterparts in a trans Tasman Cup, so that harks pack to my comments concerning the NRL and divisions and relegation.  (and I'll keep those teams in mind when I'm placing bets )

I think it is safe to say that a bet against all the South African teams in the "United Rugby Championship" for the rest of the tournament, will be a good choice, because they simply cannot get used to the way the Northern refs are blowing the games. (Why they are not adapting their play, are simply a mystery to me.)

The Stormer win in my opinion ....was just a fluke.. and they cannot repeat performances like that.. week after week. The longer that they are away from home, the worst they play. 

Welcome!

If you've got any links for the competitions, or even which gambling sites cover these fixtures, then I'd be glad to add them to the OP / first posts.

Nice to have you with us.

[aoluain]

Welcome indeed Kakmakr, I know you from the Tennis thread.

Good point about the SA sides, between the four sides in the last 4 rounds
they have only won 4 matches between them.

With the likes of the afore mentioned teams the others have little chance
if they are not winning regularly.

Timelord, as usual I'm betting on Sportsbet they have the United Championship
still listed as the PRO14.

And the official website - https://www.unitedrugby.com/match-centre/table/202101

[Timelord2067]

Thanks for the link, aoluain - I might have to shop around for another site that has some of the "additional" markets.  It's always good to be able to see players playing at the competition level against their countrymen ass opposed to at the International Level.  To my way of thinking, you can pick up on their more relaxed style of play and perhaps see an entirely different game played.

[aoluain]

I am always in awe at these top players who can train and play together on a national level
and then compete against each other on a weekly/monthly basis, but always after a match
there is respect for each other.


Back to Leinster, Their key play maker Johnny Sexton is missing this weekend and
they play Glasgow Warriors, one of the few teams that can upset them, the Untied Championship
R5 is not listed yet on sportsbet, im interested to see the odds on that game.

[Timelord2067]

I'm the first to concede it must be hard for sports betting sites to have to update daily for some fixtures (especially during finals).

Tennis is another one as you don't know who the winner is going to  face off against in the next round until a separate game is played.

Rugby Union

Japan and Australia face off this weekend. I haven't had a chance to see what the odds are for that game yet.

[aoluain]

I was too slow putting a bet on Australia, The game was over before I could
bet, I didnt keep pay attention to the date and time. Anyway they won but
probably not as comfortably as many thought. 32 - 23

Japan are a decent side.

In te United Championship I see [or dont see] Sportsbet have not listed the
games for this round?

In the notable game for me of this weekend, Glasgow Warriors v Leinster, Well
what I thought was going to be a real close match didnt materialise, it was
double scores 15 - 31 to leinster.

[Timelord2067]

I couldn't find prices for Australia Vs Japan at all, but I have found New Zealand Vs USA (101:1 for the USA to win, so I've put 0.02 mBTC on them to win - you never know   )

• Bay of Plenty @ 1.14 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
• Hawke's Bay @ 1.36 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC
• Taranaki @ 1.16 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
• Otago @ 2.57 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.13 mBTC

BOP and the other matches haven't been played as yet, so I'll keep you posted when I hear how they went.

Toulouse is paying 1.08 and La Rochelle 1.07 (I'll put money on Toulon) so just the two bets:

• Racing Metro 92 @ 1.28 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
• Toulon @ 7.56 - Taken Amount: 0.02 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.15 mBTC

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[aoluain]

Still cant see any United Rugby matches listed, I have two bets on the French Top14,
actually the only 2 I can put pets on ATM, Racing92 and Toulouse.

And from the screenshot below I cant bet on The NZ v USA match.



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Half Time in the Racing92 - Montpellier match and Montpellier are ahead 14 - 26
and Racing92 are 3.50 to win, definitely worth a bet on Racing2.

[Timelord2067]

Half Time in the Racing92 - Montpellier match and Montpellier are ahead 14 - 26
and Racing92 are 3.50 to win, definitely worth a bet on Racing2.

Racing Metro 92 - Montpellier ended up being a one sided affair with Montpellier beating Racing Metro 92 with a score of 32 - 21.

Has the La Rochelle - Toulon game been played yet?  I can't find any results for that match online.  (I do know that the Bay of Plenty - Northland game starts in another couple of hours).

[aoluain]

That match is scheduled for later on this evening, local time 21:05! La Rochelle
are heavy favourites at 1.07.

The Racing Metro 92 - Montpellier match was not how I thought it was going to go,
Racing were 3 on the Top14 table with Montpellier down in  9th or 10th.


In the United Championship there were 2 big upsets yesterday as far as im concerned,
Connacht beat Ulster 36-11 and The Ospreys beat Munster 18-10. Thats 2 of the top 4 on
the table beaten by teams way lower down the table.

If I had been able to bet on those games yesterday I would have lost big time.

Really happy for Connacht, scoring 5 tries with 5 conversions, on their day
they are capable of beating any team in this comp. but its the consistency which is poor.

[Timelord2067]

Both of my picks didn't win.  The Bay of Plenty - Northland game was cancelled due to a player death:

NPC match between Bay of Plenty and Northland postponed after Sean Wainui's death

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/126757938/npc-match-between-bay-of-plenty-and-northland-postponed-after-sean-wainuis-death

Stuff sports reporters15:39, Oct 22 2021

Sunday’s NPC match between Bay of Plenty and Northland has been postponed after the death of Bay of Plenty player Sean Wainui.

New Zealand Rugby (NZR) confirmed the Tauranga fixture would not go ahead after Wainui died in a car crash on Monday. He was 25.

Wainui’s whānau released a statement via NZR on Friday and said his tangi would take place in Gisborne at the Te Wainui Marae on Sunday, the same day as Bay of Plenty’s scheduled match this weekend.

“We just want to thank everyone for their love and generosity. The beautiful tributes that have come from those who loved him all across the world means a lot to us all,” the statement, on behalf of his whānau, his wife Paige and her whānau, said.

whānau - Māori word meaning family.

[aoluain]

Ah thats sad - R.I.P Sean Wainui

[Davidvictorson]

Both of my picks didn't win.  The Bay of Plenty - Northland game was cancelled due to a player death:

NPC match between Bay of Plenty and Northland postponed after Sean Wainui's death

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/126757938/npc-match-between-bay-of-plenty-and-northland-postponed-after-sean-wainuis-death

Stuff sports reporters15:39, Oct 22 2021

Sunday’s NPC match between Bay of Plenty and Northland has been postponed after the death of Bay of Plenty player Sean Wainui.

New Zealand Rugby (NZR) confirmed the Tauranga fixture would not go ahead after Wainui died in a car crash on Monday. He was 25.

Wainui’s whānau released a statement via NZR on Friday and said his tangi would take place in Gisborne at the Te Wainui Marae on Sunday, the same day as Bay of Plenty’s scheduled match this weekend.

“We just want to thank everyone for their love and generosity. The beautiful tributes that have come from those who loved him all across the world means a lot to us all,” the statement, on behalf of his whānau, his wife Paige and her whānau, said.

whānau - Māori word meaning family.

Although I don't know Sean Wainui but because he was hearty and loved rugby and being a proud Maori boy I can’t help but weep for this young man who had so much to live for and gave so much joy to those who knew him or watched him play. So sad to see such great people leave this world so early, you’ll always be remembered. RIP Sean Wainui