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July 24, 2023, 02:06:31 AM
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Then PSG must be the dumbest club ever if they didn't want to lose money on Mbappe but only agreed a mere 2 years renewal plus option for one year (which is up to the player) deal with him prior, now I don't understand what the club problem is, the player said he will honor is contractual terms and agreement reached by playing out his contract but doesn't want another renewal, how is that supposed to be an issue ? except for club who is already well known to always using awful theatrics to hold players against their will.
They already learned a hard lesson by signing a new contract with Mbappe in the last summer. If they did not digest that lesson well and repeat that stupid decision again, in this summer, by signing another short term contract like 2 years with Mbappe, I have no word to say about them. They are on top of stupid management by wasting too much money for one player while they can not control anything next two seasons.

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PSG turned down several bids last season for Mbappe even when the player had to implored them to sell him and let him go, they had all the opportunity to sell him them but they must have felt cocky and untouchable because of their money, now it's a threat against the player renew or get sold.
Situations of Mbappe and PSG versus Kane and Tottenham are opposite. Mbappe controls everything while Kane can not control anything in Tottenham. Two star players, two different clubs and two opposite stories. Will they both leave their clubs in this summer?

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July 24, 2023, 02:20:31 AM
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Then PSG must be the dumbest club ever if they didn't want to lose money on Mbappe but only agreed a mere 2 years renewal plus option for one year (which is up to the player) deal with him prior, now I don't understand what the club problem is, the player said he will honor is contractual terms and agreement reached by playing out his contract but doesn't want another renewal, how is that supposed to be an issue ? except for club who is already well known to always using awful theatrics to hold players against their will.
PSG turned down several bids last season for Mbappe even when the player had to implored them to sell him and let him go, they had all the opportunity to sell him them but they must have felt cocky and untouchable because of their money, now it's a threat against the player renew or get sold. I'm trying too see which stupid club owner(s) that looks forward to spending almost 200m in transfer fees and exorbitant wages on a player whose contract is less than a year away from becoming obsolete, except those annoying Saudi club owners, but we all know Mbappe would definitely never get to agree personal terms with any of those clubs.
Put yourself in the shoes of the club's president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi, and no one would like to lose money on the club's most valued player. Kylian Mbappe is keeping things tension-filled with the Parisians; he is adamant about extending his contract with the club, and he does not want to be offered in the market window this summer; he will most likely be compelled to do so. If he leaves as a free agent, PSG would lose a lot of money because they spent some hugh figures on him solely to keep him from leaving for Real Madrid last summer. Let's see how everything plays out.

Nasser Al-Khelaifi is a jerk so I'd rather put myself in the position of Kylian Mbappe if a working environment, I'd prefer to to go else ply my trade elsewhere, Mbappe isn't didn't say he doesn't want to get traded, he clamored for a trade last summer when Nasser Al-Khelaifi could have just let him go for a huge sum, he couldn't have said he didn't see this coming, he sure did and just never cared about the players interest, now he want the money for the player he didn't want last summer, but he still didn't put a price tag on Mbappe, because I'm sure every club that want rid of a player always do have their price stated, Nasser Al-Khelaifi is rather convincing Mbappe or forcing him out this summer, and he might likely not be sold to Real Madrid which we all believe is probably the choice Mbappe wants.

All I can say is that Nasser Al-Khelaifi and PSG played themselves!

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July 24, 2023, 02:53:23 AM
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all power and efforts have been exerted by the PSG president to tie mbappe's feet to stay at PSG but mbappe is still young, he wants more achievements like the UCL while PSG are unable to give him that trophy. I'm also not sure if mbappe will officially move to real madridd as soon as possible, PSG really can't hold back the ambition of its players, after losing messi the next one to leave PSG is mbappe.
Mbappe can think if they can take win win solution rather than try to being so selfish. I meant he was making his own problem become very complicated at this moment. His direction is still unclear. PSG wants him to leave and he can get money, but mbappe makes everything become very complex for him. Mbappe can solve this problem easily if he will yes to leave from the club but this guy is very harsh. He does not even care anymore about the PSG. Mbappe is a key to solve this problem.

So many people were always paying attention to his transfer. PSG just need to sell him and everything is clear. Many people wanna see mbappe to join in real madrid or something else. I see no reason for the club to sell him.
Mbappe just need to does some simple steps to make sure everything gonna be running perfectly.

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July 24, 2023, 05:21:16 AM
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But anyway, I think PSG just looks more likely to sell Mbappe to another team before his contract runs out. They wouldn't let Mbappe go for free to any team, so selling him was a wise decision even if they didn't really want to do it.
It would be a very big loss for PSG to let this player go freely because his contract expires in mid-2024, because PSG have already bought Mbappe at a high price from AS Monaco and with several clubs really wanting him, selling him is the best option because he doesn't want to extend his contract at the club yet. And it looks like he will leave this club this season because PSG will have no problems in the sales process because it is reported that clubs interested in him have made offers of around 200 million euros, moreover one of the clubs in the Saudi pro league is included in the list of clubs that also made an offer to him. The offer from the Arab club could push the price even higher than the market price, but I don't think it will exceed 250 million euros, and whoever the club will get it will immediately offer a long contract, because it would be a loss for a high transfer fee but he only played for 2-3 seasons at the club.

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July 24, 2023, 05:38:36 AM
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Kylian Mbappe would certainly not join any club that doesn't meet his own personal requirements just because Paris Saint Germaine management wants to get him sold so he doesn't leave for free when his contract with the club expires in next summer.
The player has made it clear that Real Madrid is his preferred destination so I think PSG's management should find a way to reach agreement with the Spanish club when they come knocking for the Frenchman. That I think will make things become easy for the three parties involved.
The funny thing is that Real Madrid is well aware that PSG is at an impasse, so they don’t even make proposals for the transfer of Mbappe  Grin Real Madrid is trying to squeeze all the juice out of this situation and it looks like they are succeeding. Even if they don't buy him now (I think they will), they will get him in a year, and PSG, which looked like a triumphant year ago, turned out to be a complete loser, since all options are not in their favor.

Mbappe wants to stay with PSG this season. And he wants to join as a free agent next season. In this, he can get a large signing fee from the new club. And perhaps that's why the Real Madrid squad isn't showing much interest in Mbappe right now. They will try Mbappe again in the team as a free agent. And I think Mbappe is being closely monitored by Madrid management. If clubs like Liverpool or Chelsea show more interest in adding Mbappe to the team, Real Madrid might pay a higher price for Mbappe. Or Madrid management will try to bring Mbappe into the team next season.

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July 24, 2023, 06:02:01 AM
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Kylian Mbappe would certainly not join any club that doesn't meet his own personal requirements just because Paris Saint Germaine management wants to get him sold so he doesn't leave for free when his contract with the club expires in next summer.
The player has made it clear that Real Madrid is his preferred destination so I think PSG's management should find a way to reach agreement with the Spanish club when they come knocking for the Frenchman. That I think will make things become easy for the three parties involved.

The funny thing is that Real Madrid is well aware that PSG is at an impasse, so they don’t even make proposals for the transfer of Mbappe  Grin Real Madrid is trying to squeeze all the juice out of this situation and it looks like they are succeeding. Even if they don't buy him now (I think they will), they will get him in a year, and PSG, which looked like a triumphant year ago, turned out to be a complete loser, since all options are not in their favor.
Real Madrid is trying to take great advantage of the situation experienced by PSG which continues to be deadlocked to retain Mbappe, one of the reasons Real Madrid did not submit a new proposal for the Mbappe transfer process is because they are too confident they can get Mbappe for free. PSG will not just let Mbappe go, they will do anything to get money from Mbappe transfer. Real Madrid are not the only club very interested in Mbappe, Arsenal and Liverpool have taken an interest in him. PSG could have given up Mbappe departure to one of the Premier League clubs by accepting a proposal from them, Real Madrid would have lost the hunt due to overconfidence which resulted in closing the chances of getting Mbappe even more.

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July 24, 2023, 06:11:05 AM
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Kylian Mbappe would certainly not join any club that doesn't meet his own personal requirements just because Paris Saint Germaine management wants to get him sold so he doesn't leave for free when his contract with the club expires in next summer.
The player has made it clear that Real Madrid is his preferred destination so I think PSG's management should find a way to reach agreement with the Spanish club when they come knocking for the Frenchman. That I think will make things become easy for the three parties involved.
The funny thing is that Real Madrid is well aware that PSG is at an impasse, so they don’t even make proposals for the transfer of Mbappe  Grin Real Madrid is trying to squeeze all the juice out of this situation and it looks like they are succeeding. Even if they don't buy him now (I think they will), they will get him in a year, and PSG, which looked like a triumphant year ago, turned out to be a complete loser, since all options are not in their favor.

Mbappe wants to stay with PSG this season. And he wants to join as a free agent next season. In this, he can get a large signing fee from the new club. And perhaps that's why the Real Madrid squad isn't showing much interest in Mbappe right now. They will try Mbappe again in the team as a free agent. And I think Mbappe is being closely monitored by Madrid management. If clubs like Liverpool or Chelsea show more interest in adding Mbappe to the team, Real Madrid might pay a higher price for Mbappe. Or Madrid management will try to bring Mbappe into the team next season.

There is currently an ongoing conflict between Kylian Mbappe and PSG.
Kylian desires to complete his contract with PSG and receive the promised 100 million euros once it expires. At the same time the club aims to sell Mbappe and generate a substantial sum of 200 million euros from his transfer. In this circumstance PSG's treatment of Mbappe is unjust. As a player bound by a legal contract to the club, he should be respected and not treated as an outcast. btw! Let's see who wins.

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July 24, 2023, 06:23:38 AM
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Mbappe wants to stay with PSG this season. And he wants to join as a free agent next season. In this, he can get a large signing fee from the new club. And perhaps that's why the Real Madrid squad isn't showing much interest in Mbappe right now. They will try Mbappe again in the team as a free agent. And I think Mbappe is being closely monitored by Madrid management. If clubs like Liverpool or Chelsea show more interest in adding Mbappe to the team, Real Madrid might pay a higher price for Mbappe. Or Madrid management will try to bring Mbappe into the team next season.
I think Mbappe is more suitable at Madrid, that's why Madrid has always been associated with Mbappe as a substitute for Benzema on the front lines. Of course, Madrid really needs time to get Mbappe in free agency and it will be difficult for other clubs to spend big money to buy it at this time. I think if next season Mbappe really moves to Madrid, it won't be a surprise for us.

Because this news is already everywhere, of course PSG is worried that they hope Mbappe will extend his contract or sell it immediately, on the one hand Mbappe wants to finish his contract with PSG, there are too many rumors everywhere about Mbappe's news in Madrid. This has always been profitable traffic for the media out there.

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July 24, 2023, 06:44:36 AM
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Kylian Mbappe would certainly not join any club that doesn't meet his own personal requirements just because Paris Saint Germaine management wants to get him sold so he doesn't leave for free when his contract with the club expires in next summer.
The player has made it clear that Real Madrid is his preferred destination so I think PSG's management should find a way to reach agreement with the Spanish club when they come knocking for the Frenchman. That I think will make things become easy for the three parties involved.

The funny thing is that Real Madrid is well aware that PSG is at an impasse, so they don’t even make proposals for the transfer of Mbappe  Grin Real Madrid is trying to squeeze all the juice out of this situation and it looks like they are succeeding. Even if they don't buy him now (I think they will), they will get him in a year, and PSG, which looked like a triumphant year ago, turned out to be a complete loser, since all options are not in their favor.

all power and efforts have been exerted by the PSG president to tie mbappe's feet to stay at PSG but mbappe is still young, he wants more achievements like the UCL while PSG are unable to give him that trophy. I'm also not sure if mbappe will officially move to real madridd as soon as possible, PSG really can't hold back the ambition of its players, after losing messi the next one to leave PSG is mbappe.

Losing Messi is not a problem for PSG, because the player who will continue to be maintained is Mbappe. At a young age with great potential, it is not surprising that PSG is so difficult to sell and release Mbappe. So yes, maybe we will also get some crazy steps or fantastic ways that PSG might make later, of course to make Mbappe stay longer at PSG. But unfortunately, Mbappe soul may already be in Real Madrid, so whatever method PSG will make may still fail because Mbappe already has a strong choice to leave.

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July 24, 2023, 06:46:06 AM
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Mauro Icardi left PSG and is going to play for Galatasaray in the next season. Mauro Icardi was playing for PSG this season but he was on loan in Galatasaray and had drama with his team PSG, that's why it's not too bad for PSG to finally sell Mauro Icardi to the Turkish teams.


Great deal on the part of Galatasaray. To buy such a forward for only 10 million is a great deal.
Apart from problems in his personal life, Icardi is a very good footballer. For last season he scored 22 goals, almost every game in which he took part was marked by a productive action.

The contract until 2026 is a gift for Galatasaray, because if Icardi continues to play at the same pace, then they will sell to Saudi Arabia for 50-60 million for 50-60 million quietly, without problems. His age allows him to play at a high level for at least 2-3 years.

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July 24, 2023, 07:12:26 AM
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Despite all the controversy, as a club, PSG can indeed be blamed in this case because they pressured their players to leave so that the club could still make money from the sale. On the other hand, Mbappe wants to stay and as a professional football club PSG's actions can also be categorized as extortion against players. I think if Mbappe wanted to move now it wouldn't matter, but the player is adamant to stay and respect the club's contract to the end. We know that Mbappe's goal in 2024 is to go to Real Madrid for free and it should be a personal right for a player to determine his future and here we can see PSG are still trying to make sure that doesn't happen.
I don't know about respect in his actions. He could have at least given more leverage to PSG so they could still sell him to another major club. His early notice to the team owners that he didn't want to renew his contract made other teams like Real Madrid not make any offer since he is leaving as a free agent anyway. That really placed PSG at a disadvantage and I think that was disrespectful on the part of Mbappe.
Maybe if we look at it specifically, this problem is only centered on the ego of each party and here it is quite clear that PSG's situation by charging Mbappe with such actions proves that they have intervened in their players. As a player, Mbappe certainly wants a better future to be able to win more titles that he has not yet won and therefore he very adamantly rejected the offer of a contract extension and prefers to immediately join Real Madrid until next year when his contract expires with PSG.

I think this problem will not be resolved if PSG still expect big money for the sale of Mbappe or let Mbappe go now but for a much cheaper price. With that, it's possible that Mbappe can leave quickly and PSG can get the money they want, even though it's not comparable to what they wanted before.

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July 24, 2023, 07:29:47 AM
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Losing Messi is not a problem for PSG, because the player who will continue to be maintained is Mbappe. At a young age with great potential, it is not surprising that PSG is so difficult to sell and release Mbappe. So yes, maybe we will also get some crazy steps or fantastic ways that PSG might make later, of course to make Mbappe stay longer at PSG. But unfortunately, Mbappe soul may already be in Real Madrid, so whatever method PSG will make may still fail because Mbappe already has a strong choice to leave.

Mpabbe is really still very young, and if PSG offer him a contract with even more pay, then this is a great option for him to make a lot of money. The most important thing is not to sign contracts for 10 years, as was recently published in the media, let it be such a contract that could allow him to leave the team if he cannot win the Champions League with PSG. If that's his deepest desire, that he can try to achieve it on another team.

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July 24, 2023, 07:49:27 AM
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Mpabbe is really still very young, and if PSG offer him a contract with even more pay, then this is a great option for him to make a lot of money. The most important thing is not to sign contracts for 10 years, as was recently published in the media, let it be such a contract that could allow him to leave the team if he cannot win the Champions League with PSG. If that's his deepest desire, that he can try to achieve it on another team.
He does not want better offer from PSG or at least it is how he shown and he even reacted very negatively after PSG put him into the transfer market and did not call him for the summer training tournament. With such negative reaction, Mbappe only opens the exit gate in PSG more and now he has another offer, this one is from Saudi.

The offer is he signs a contract with a club there, plays only one season and can move to Real Madrid, only Madrid in the next summer. The salary offer is about $200M for a single season that is good and better than spending time in PSG on bench and we know a next summer will be Euro 2024.

The offer from PSG is too long with 10 years and I am sure Mbappe will not be brave enough to bet his career with PSG in 10 more years. He will not sign that contract with PSG so no more option, he will move this summer or next one.

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July 24, 2023, 08:13:49 AM
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Losing Messi is not a problem for PSG, because the player who will continue to be maintained is Mbappe. At a young age with great potential, it is not surprising that PSG is so difficult to sell and release Mbappe. So yes, maybe we will also get some crazy steps or fantastic ways that PSG might make later, of course to make Mbappe stay longer at PSG. But unfortunately, Mbappe soul may already be in Real Madrid, so whatever method PSG will make may still fail because Mbappe already has a strong choice to leave.

Mpabbe is really still very young, and if PSG offer him a contract with even more pay, then this is a great option for him to make a lot of money. The most important thing is not to sign contracts for 10 years, as was recently published in the media, let it be such a contract that could allow him to leave the team if he cannot win the Champions League with PSG. If that's his deepest desire, that he can try to achieve it on another team.

I think Mbappe now wants to leave Paris. I find this also logical because if you are one of the best players in the world, you seek success. We saw how sad he was because he couldn't win the World Cup despite playing successful matches and getting an award in the World Cup. I think Mbappe will leave the team in this transfer window.

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July 24, 2023, 08:56:15 AM
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Messi's departure wouldn't be an enormous problem for PSG. I must admit of course that his contribution to the team so far has been really great. However the thing I mean is that PSG were already strong before Messi came as well. They even reached the Champions League finale in his absence - 2019/20 season. Hence PSG can make up for his absence again from now on as well.

But Mbappe is the most critical player for PSG undoubtedly. He has always played the biggest role in PSG's successes so far. PSG are also aware of it that they offered an enormous contract to him later on. However now there is really no way they are keeping him longer.

Mbappe has made up his mind to leave now or next summer at the latest.

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July 24, 2023, 09:18:46 AM
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Mbappe wants to stay with PSG this season. And he wants to join as a free agent next season. In this, he can get a large signing fee from the new club. And perhaps that's why the Real Madrid squad isn't showing much interest in Mbappe right now. They will try Mbappe again in the team as a free agent. And I think Mbappe is being closely monitored by Madrid management. If clubs like Liverpool or Chelsea show more interest in adding Mbappe to the team, Real Madrid might pay a higher price for Mbappe. Or Madrid management will try to bring Mbappe into the team next season.
I think Mbappe is more suitable at Madrid, that's why Madrid has always been associated with Mbappe as a substitute for Benzema on the front lines. Of course, Madrid really needs time to get Mbappe in free agency and it will be difficult for other clubs to spend big money to buy it at this time. I think if next season Mbappe really moves to Madrid, it won't be a surprise for us.

Because this news is already everywhere, of course PSG is worried that they hope Mbappe will extend his contract or sell it immediately, on the one hand Mbappe wants to finish his contract with PSG, there are too many rumors everywhere about Mbappe's news in Madrid. This has always been profitable traffic for the media out there.

Real Madrid would definitely be a better choice for Mbappe than PSG. Mbappe was in PSG for a long time. Although he won the Ligue 1 title, he could not win the Champions League. Moreover, Mbappe did not win the Ballon d'Or. Joining Real Madrid would boost Mbappe's chances of winning the Champions League and Ballon d'Or.

If Mbappe does not renew his contract with PSG then PSG will not keep Mbappe in the team. The important thing is that Luis Enrique will not be interested in making Mbappe part of his match plan for just one season. This is why Mbappe will have to leave the club this season if his contract is not renewed. PSG may sell Mbappe to a Premier League team if Real Madrid is not interested in spending more money for Mbappe.

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July 24, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
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Everything about mbappe become very complex. There was a new if french footballsers union already threaten to sue PSG caused by its treatment to the mbappe. To be honest, if the intervention by french footballers union will be making everything become very complicated.
The only parties that can solve the problem between mbappe and PSG were themselves. I think that there shall not be an intervention from the 3rd party. PSG is not yet finding a solution with mbappe. The problem was on mbappe's side.
There's nothing wrong with what already done by PSG. The club wants to secure its money. 3rd party like that was only taking advantage from this problem.
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The French footballers' union has threatened to take legal action against PSG for its treatment of Kylian Mbappe.

Mbappe has been left out of the Ligue 1 champions' squad for their tour of Japan, with the club now attempting to force through an exit for their superstar. The France captain has revealed he will leave the Parc des Princes at the end of his contract, which expires next summer.

PSG are desperate to receive at least some fee in return for their record goalscorer and are taking measures to move him on immediately. The latest action has seen them 'loft' Mbappe from Luis Enrique 's squad.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/psg-kylian-mbappe-transfer-legal-30530560

I don't agree if the legal action for PSG will solve the problem faced by him and PSG. I don't even like that if there was an intervention from another party.

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July 24, 2023, 10:37:07 AM
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I don't know if the rumors about the salary increase offered by PSG to Mbappe are true or not, but one thing I'm pretty sure is that basically PSG won't hesitate to keep Mbappe in any way. But even so, will Mbappe really stay at PSG forever or not. Because after all, Mbappe himself is still young and has earned such a fantastic fee. So, if in the future Mbappe leaves, then PSG will suffer a very big loss, of course. Because Mbappe plays for PSG no longer based on loyalty, but based on money. As such, it may turn out to be a blunder later due to the way it is too crazy and maybe not healthy for their chemistry also on the pitch and in the locker room.
Mbappe got kicked from training with PSG in Japan while he seems number 9 given to another player in Real Madrid. Quite awkward situation since it appears that he will remain in the benches for the upcoming season unless he accept a new deal by PSG or move right now to Real Madrid..

Everything gets weird about Mbappe and I don't the affect this drama in the next season because the best Bmappe can do is to leave PSG and the PSG owners know this player won't be useful for them anymore I think if he leaves this team Real Madrid can give him the short just after he joined there.

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July 24, 2023, 11:39:40 AM
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The funny thing is that Real Madrid is well aware that PSG is at an impasse, so they don’t even make proposals for the transfer of Mbappe  Grin Real Madrid is trying to squeeze all the juice out of this situation and it looks like they are succeeding. Even if they don't buy him now (I think they will), they will get him in a year, and PSG, which looked like a triumphant year ago, turned out to be a complete loser, since all options are not in their favor.

Considering how much it cost PSG to convince Mbappe to stay, it never looked like a triumph although I assume you mean that PSG outdid Real Madrid when they tried to buy him. The winner has always been Mbappe in all of this as the contract he signed with PSG was like a Royal Flush. He knew he could never be the loser in this irrespective of what his next move would be. But I don't know if PSG really cares about the money or whether they want to make it as cumbersome as possible in order to not look like amateurs in public. Eventually they will sell Mbappe and then say that they won't accept any player to play games with them and that is why he had to go.

Yes, I was referring to last year's battle when Real and PSG fought to sign Mbappe. By the way, I'm not at all sure that Mbappe benefited from that contract - he received only money, but burned his golden years in a Parisian swamp. As we see now, it is very easy for a player with a big name to earn money - you just need to go to Saudi Arabia, but it is impossible to return the lost years.

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July 24, 2023, 12:08:34 PM
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Losing Messi is not a problem for PSG, because the player who will continue to be maintained is Mbappe. At a young age with great potential, it is not surprising that PSG is so difficult to sell and release Mbappe. So yes, maybe we will also get some crazy steps or fantastic ways that PSG might make later, of course to make Mbappe stay longer at PSG. But unfortunately, Mbappe soul may already be in Real Madrid, so whatever method PSG will make may still fail because Mbappe already has a strong choice to leave.

Mpabbe is really still very young, and if PSG offer him a contract with even more pay, then this is a great option for him to make a lot of money. The most important thing is not to sign contracts for 10 years, as was recently published in the media, let it be such a contract that could allow him to leave the team if he cannot win the Champions League with PSG. If that's his deepest desire, that he can try to achieve it on another team.
The young French star is currently earning a hefty salary from PSG but still his main aim in leaving the club is to win a major tournament trophy. Apart from winning trophies in major tournaments, his dream is to win the Ballon d'Or but this dream is not coming true from PSG club because he has been in this club for a long time and this club is not performing well in the Champions League due to which the French star is not able to light up his career. If Mbappe doesn't focus on his beautiful career many clubs will make big offers but he is only thinking about his career which is why he is planning to leave PSG and possibly join Real Madrid. He may have realized that to take his career to another level, he needs to sign with Real Madrid, which is why he plans to join Real Madrid despite the huge salary and benefits.

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