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July 13, 2023, 11:11:45 AM
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Luis Enrique's track record as an experienced coach is certainly extraordinary and I personally respect him a lot. When training Barcelona it was 8 years ago and of course now the era has changed, every football development cannot be predicted easily, especially for the champions league, of course every season the winner is always different. Therefore I will be quite happy if Luis Enrique helps PSG win the Ligue 1 title first before targeting titles in other competitions. However, if Luis Enrique manages to turn this team into one to be feared from next season, I think they have a chance to win the champions league even though the possibility is very slim.
Luis Enrique can do it slowly but surely at PSG, the problem is whether the owner of PSG will have the patience to wait for Enrique to turn this club into a competitive team not only in local competition but also in Europe, because it will be difficult to turn a team into a very competitive team and strong in all competitions, so if PSG's owners are patient it is very possible that the former coach of the Spanish national team will do great things like Pep Guardiola did at Manchester City and we can see that it took several seasons for Pep to lead City to win the Champions League. But unfortunately, money may be more powerful and play a bigger role so when nothing good happens, PSG will change their manager again immediately.
Therefore it takes patience to cultivate a big team like PSG and it will be very difficult for Luis Enrique to win the Champions League in his first season in charge of this club. Therefore it is better to focus on developing good coaching for his new squad later at PSG and Luis Enrique doesn't need to be confused about which players to bring in because of course the owner of PSG will always try to grant his request.

On the other hand, Pep Guardiola is a clear example for a team like PSG which has very strong financial support and Manchester City needs at least 5 more years to be able to win its first Champions League title, of course this is not accompanied by the dismissal of a coach who makes a team lose its leader. . So like Pep Guardiola at Manchester City, I think the owners of PSG have to give Luis Enrique enough time to build this team and win the titles they want.

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July 13, 2023, 11:23:58 AM
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We're really getting fed up with all the problems Kylian Mbappe's issues. Honestly, it seems like he could be sold for a much lower price considering he only has one year left on his contract. The club doesn't want to risk losing him for free next season, but they can't force him to stay either. I personally believe he'll end up leaving for about half of his current value.
It's not only you but me too. Mbappe doesn't wanna take win win situation for both of parties. Mbappe can leave from the club easily without any problem. The main problem was mbappe itself. PSG tries to solve the problem as soon as possible but mbappe prevents the club from doing that by being so harsh to stay in PSG for another season. The only best thing to decrease mbappe's value. It can become the only option that can be taken by PSG but club gonna faces huge loss by doing it.
At least it's far better compared with let him go with free agent next year. PSG shall consider this as the last choice for club to deceide the future of mbappe.

Mbappe's story is always become a complicated story. This player is also facing so many problems due to the various reasons.
I think Paris Saint Germaine shouldn't be blamed for the continuous media trafficking issue concerning their player Kylian Mbappe and his supposed transfer to Real Madrid.
Mbappe should've become a Real Madrid player last summer transfer window but changed his decision abd extended his contract with PSG because the club offered a better financial deal than the one he got from Real Madrid. Now that he's convinced that it is at Real Madrid that he can win the UEFA Champions League and probably the Balon D'or he wants to secretly agree to go back to the club without PSG's knowledge. PSG has already included him in the list of players they're gonna sell off this summer and that'll be to the highest bidder so Real Madrid should save us from the continuous news of Mbappe by signing him with PSG's terms

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July 13, 2023, 11:33:19 AM
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Since this is the first season for some of PSG's new recruits, I think it's too soon to win the champions league title. Maybe for the three young players you mentioned it is better to maintain their quality first with one of them helping to secure the Ligue 1 title which so far has been a definite title that PSG can win every season.

The presence of Luis Enrique is also not necessarily a lubricant to facilitate PSG's chances of winning various titles and I think it is better for his first season to keep his players stable. After that, they can focus on thinking about how to win the Champions League title for the first time, and that must also be accompanied by a qualified squad update with other talented players.
You're right, it's too early to say that because there are a lot of big, quality clubs out there in different leagues, and their experience can be considered quite experienced. Yes, we also have to see how performance PSG in the next new season, whether they look good enough or bad. But I think they will get better under Enrique leadership. Somehow I can think like that, maybe look at his track record. The reason is, when leading Barcelona in his first season they were able to secure the UCL title and it is possible that he can also be lucky in his first season with PSG.
Luis Enrique's track record as an experienced coach is certainly extraordinary and I personally respect him a lot. When training Barcelona it was 8 years ago and of course now the era has changed, every football development cannot be predicted easily, especially for the champions league, of course every season the winner is always different. Therefore I will be quite happy if Luis Enrique helps PSG win the Ligue 1 title first before targeting titles in other competitions. However, if Luis Enrique manages to turn this team into one to be feared from next season, I think they have a chance to win the champions league even though the possibility is very slim.

We know about the performance of Luis Enrique and we saw how he perform in Barcelona and Spain but the fact about Luis Enrique is he is going to work in PSG while this team is not in a good situation at all, many players left the team and some other players like Mbappe is going to leave soon, this can be a reason to say Luis Enrique should rebuild the team and he is going to have hard days to find good players to replace wit the player who left.
However, PSG got enough money to buy the list of players Luis Enrique gives to the team and they don't have any financial problems which can help to rebuild the team easier.

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July 13, 2023, 12:57:43 PM
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Mbappe has been on lips of every football fans and journalist and nobody would stop talking about the situation at PSG. If the board of directors at PSG are complaining or being confused about how to make the striker into signing a new deal and is not working then they should be blamed for all that's happening, because it's their making that's causing all of these problem. Is as if the left everything in the hands of Mbappe to run the show, giving him everything like the right to do things at the club and now they can't even control the situation at hand, I just feel it's time for both the owners of PSG and Mbappe to part ways, he's not ready to play for a club that's not ready to win what he has always wanted, that's winning the champions league.

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Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now. He is still very young and already has so many titles that older players don't have. He has a lot of ambition and wants to achieve big results. PSG is not a bad club, but Mbappe realises that apart from money he will not get much here. He needs titles in Europe.
If Mbappe still has ambitions to win titles in Europe or titles like the Champions League, then the solution is to move to a team that has often won the Champions League and also their own league. Even though PSG still win Ligue1 very often, PSG still haven't proven their ability in the Champions League so that is what Mbappe has yet to achieve at PSG. And if next season Mbappe still stays at PSG, of course he hopes that PSG can really have extraordinary abilities in the Champions League besides in Ligue 1.
PSG have been unable to win the Champions League for a long time now. This season they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. This is the best attacking line up of any European club. Even Manchester City, who had no problem winning the Champions League this season, have a worse attacking line up than PSG. Well, the fact that PSG regularly win Ligue 1 is because they have almost no competition, and they barely won this season.

But there is something that seems to be overlooked quite often and that is the motivation and the greed for success of the players they buy. I have no doubt that Mbappe wants to win the Champions League as soon as possible as that is a title he is still missing and a player at his level would probably have won it already with a different team. But when you look at Messi and Neymar and especially Messi, these guys had their success with Barcelona and Messi has played for the best Barcelona team there has ever been. He made it be the best Barcelona team. Everyone remembers his greed for success and his determination to win the big games. He is still a genius, but was he the Messi who peaked at Barcelona also for PSG? In my opinion no and I am saying that as a Messi fan and I had a similar feeling with Neymar.

I remember Mbappe's ambition, especially in champions league matches. He had more ambition and willpower than his teammates. But they never got the trophy. This made Mbappe unhappy. We know Mbappe's interest in Real Madrid and there are constant reports of this interest. I don't understand why Real Madrid waited so long to get Mbappe.

We know that PSG's offensive line consists of world stars. Despite this, the biggest reason why they fail in the champions league is that a team is not made up of only offensive players. The defensive line should also consist of very good players.

Their biggest problem was the focus until the last minute, they became careless when they were in front during a Champions League game and that is when their defensive game suffered a lot and they conceded goals that were otherwise avoidable. But there is one more problem when you have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. All three of those players hate to work in the defense as well and while a team can handle one or two players to not contribute to the defensive work, it becomes too hard to handle when there are three players not contributing even a tiny little bit to the defense. Many of the top teams had strikers who were also willing to work defensively. Benzema, Lewandowski, but even Haaland often goes that extra mile and helps in the defense.

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July 13, 2023, 02:43:10 PM
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Mbappe has been on lips of every football fans and journalist and nobody would stop talking about the situation at PSG. If the board of directors at PSG are complaining or being confused about how to make the striker into signing a new deal and is not working then they should be blamed for all that's happening, because it's their making that's causing all of these problem. Is as if the left everything in the hands of Mbappe to run the show, giving him everything like the right to do things at the club and now they can't even control the situation at hand, I just feel it's time for both the owners of PSG and Mbappe to part ways, he's not ready to play for a club that's not ready to win what he has always wanted, that's winning the champions league.

The news is paying more attention to Mbappe than they normally should pay, we know he is a good player and he is young too which can make him a good option for any team to hire this player and this can be a good investment for them to be sure about their forwards in the years, but Mbappe is still not sure about his future, and there is the chance for him to stay just like what happened in the last time when he wanted to leave PSG. I don't think if PSG will allow Mbappe to leave PSG without taking benefits from him.

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July 13, 2023, 02:57:26 PM
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Mbappe has been on lips of every football fans and journalist and nobody would stop talking about the situation at PSG. If the board of directors at PSG are complaining or being confused about how to make the striker into signing a new deal and is not working then they should be blamed for all that's happening, because it's their making that's causing all of these problem. Is as if the left everything in the hands of Mbappe to run the show, giving him everything like the right to do things at the club and now they can't even control the situation at hand, I just feel it's time for both the owners of PSG and Mbappe to part ways, he's not ready to play for a club that's not ready to win what he has always wanted, that's winning the champions league.
Kylian Mbappé will be more interested for discussing by all media or journalist have speculated about his future keep stay and extend contract with PSG or he won't extend his contract and automatically PSG will put in the transfer name list. PSG can't mange well controlling about Kylian Mbappé future until right now not have done deal for extending his contract will expiry next season, dilemma for PSG because they want for Mbappe renew contract two until three years later.

Champion League tittle is dreaming from Kylian Mbappé, he has bigger ambition for winning Champion League and seems difficult with PSG after spent several years always failure, best achievement managed until final stage but defeated by Bayern Munich.

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July 13, 2023, 04:02:57 PM
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Especially due to his big success in the Champions League with Barcelona in the past, I hope he can do the same with PSG as well. He will have a quite strong squad in his hands and have a world star player like Mbappe as well. Mbappe could still leave the team this summer though but let's say he didn't leave for now.

Back then Enrique worked with Messi and now he is lucky to work with another world star. Mbappe can continue to do this best with a high level contribution to bring success to the team. Enrique should just give him some freedom in his game. Because Mbappe is himself when he becomes more creative than being too disciplined to play the same game with the others.

@Velvet78 PSG won’t win the champions league unless they have a united squad and due to Mbappe’s recent statements the squad is already divided hence they need to sell him and unite the player’s. Furthermore Enrique will need at least two - three transfer windows to build a squad that can implement his plans and thus I hope that PSG owner’s give him time otherwise the head coach position for PSG will open up very soon.

IMO, I see that at the moment PSG's philosophy has changed. now, they are trying to build a team like City did. but in truth, I can not justify with what I say. because, so far I have not been able to figure out what exactly they will do. now under Enrique, PSG can be much better than the previous coaches even though they are not too filled with star-studded players. Messi has left, Neymar's status is still in doubt, Mbappe's transfer saga.
well, it's not an easy job for Enruque to fix PSG in an instant. but, at least the move to choose Enrique is the right choice. yep, if we refer to his track record as a seasoned coach.

To be honest, for now I can't measure PSG's strength for next season. ideally, we'll see after this summer's transfer window closes. also, which players PSG has signed. after that, what system does Enrique employ. thus, at least we have an overview of PSG's strength map and how they will carry out their matches in the Champions League. don't get me wrong, it's not impossible if Enrique can bring PSG as the club wants. After all, in football anything can happen. for now, there is no other way than we follow every development.

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July 13, 2023, 04:17:27 PM
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Mbappe has been on lips of every football fans and journalist and nobody would stop talking about the situation at PSG. If the board of directors at PSG are complaining or being confused about how to make the striker into signing a new deal and is not working then they should be blamed for all that's happening, because it's their making that's causing all of these problem. Is as if the left everything in the hands of Mbappe to run the show, giving him everything like the right to do things at the club and now they can't even control the situation at hand, I just feel it's time for both the owners of PSG and Mbappe to part ways, he's not ready to play for a club that's not ready to win what he has always wanted, that's winning the champions league.
Reading and hearing people talk about Mbappe has actually bored me a bit, but on the other hand it's interesting to follow the drama between Mbappe and Paris Saint Germain. He's like a player who has a bigger name than the club at his young age, unlike Erling Haaland for example who has been juxtaposed with him, Erling Haaland has a more comfortable situation and also no controversy that he did.
But it is true what you say, this problem occurred because of Paris Saint Germain's mistake at the beginning, which made the player like the owner of the club and in the end it caused problems for them themselves.

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July 13, 2023, 04:27:57 PM
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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid. But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.

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July 13, 2023, 04:39:20 PM
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It's not only you but me too. Mbappe doesn't wanna take win win situation for both of parties. Mbappe can leave from the club easily without any problem. The main problem was mbappe itself. PSG tries to solve the problem as soon as possible but mbappe prevents the club from doing that by being so harsh to stay in PSG for another season. The only best thing to decrease mbappe's value. It can become the only option that can be taken by PSG but club gonna faces huge loss by doing it.
At least it's far better compared with let him go with free agent next year. PSG shall consider this as the last choice for club to deceide the future of mbappe.

Mbappe's story is always become a complicated story. This player is also facing so many problems due to the various reasons.
Yes i agree, everyone is reluctant to see news about Mbappe, who always appears with his move to Madrid. I predict that if he continues to behave like this, the management and coaches of PSG will act beyond expectations. It could be that he will often be benched by the coach next season and will not be given perfect playing minutes, or will loan him to another club before being given a free transfer status and do not rule out selling him to a club like Asenal or Chelsea.

If so, this will automatically make their value and performance drop dramatically because they are not supported by a good squad. I think this option will be exercised by PSG if he continues to refuse to extend his contract and chooses a free transfer next season in order to play for another Club. I don't know, hopefully he doesn't feel bigger than the club.

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July 13, 2023, 05:39:44 PM
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Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now. He is still very young and already has so many titles that older players don't have. He has a lot of ambition and wants to achieve big results. PSG is not a bad club, but Mbappe realises that apart from money he will not get much here. He needs titles in Europe.

If a prestigious title in Europe is a consideration. I just wonder, doesn't he have the ability to lead his team to the highest point in the competition? Paris Saint Germain have decent support with their current squad, which shouldn't prevent Mbappe to fulfill his various ambitions as you say. By the way, what titles does he have at the club aside from the French 1st League

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July 13, 2023, 05:46:04 PM
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There have been new rumours about a centre-forward transfer for PSG. The most recent rumoured players are Gonçalo Ramos and Rasmus Hojlund. For now this looks like a strong rumour but I'm waiting to hear from PSG to confirm this by making an offer. Especially Hojlund has been popular recently. He is a target for Manchester United also.

If Manchester United and PSG enter the race at the same time I don't know whether Manchester United can be the winner. They have an advantage of providing more playing time to him though. We don't know if he will be in PSG starting eleven regularly.

On the other hand I have no doubt that PSG would make the most satisfying offer to him.

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July 13, 2023, 06:14:16 PM
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Especially due to his big success in the Champions League with Barcelona in the past, I hope he can do the same with PSG as well. He will have a quite strong squad in his hands and have a world star player like Mbappe as well. Mbappe could still leave the team this summer though but let's say he didn't leave for now.

Back then Enrique worked with Messi and now he is lucky to work with another world star. Mbappe can continue to do this best with a high level contribution to bring success to the team. Enrique should just give him some freedom in his game. Because Mbappe is himself when he becomes more creative than being too disciplined to play the same game with the others.
He "may" do it there as well but we need to remember that this guy is new here, and he will inherit a team that is in shambles and everyone wants to leave and all that. Which means that he is going to have hard time keeping everyone at bay and trying to build a team because normally this team is getting separated and that's going to be tough. In the end, he is doing something good with all the other teams he worked with and I think if they can keep him for about 2 seasons, then on third season he is going to show them what he can do.

Not going to take some time because of him, but because they need to arrange it. First year with Mbappe but leaving, second year no mbappe so building, third year getting used to it and winning without him very well.
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July 13, 2023, 06:29:08 PM
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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid. But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.
PSG have a lot of talented players, they still have Neymar and Mbappe, I don't know how their fate will be decided, but I think Neymar is on good terms with Enrique and he can stay in the team. Mbappe may also stay, as his market price is very high and few people will be ready to buy him now. It seems to me that Enrique is a very good coach and it is a pity that PSG did not dare to call him when Messi was also in the team, but I think PSG can win the Champions League without Messi if they give Enrique enough time to do so.

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After Alexander Nubel loan period ended and now he has also returned to Bayern Munich, it seems that Monaco must looking for other alternatives player to fill their goalkeeper position. No wonder if there is news about Monaco which are currently rumored to be interested recruit Philipp Kohn, this player age 25 year and him is a graduate of the Stuttgart youth academy. When playing at RB Salzburg in the 2022/2023 season, he success to record 16 clean sheets in 32 matches. Previously, Monaco was inconsistent in getting points. I was quite disappointed with them, but next season I hope they can be more consistent to at least be in the top five positions, because their schedule will not be too tight in the next new season.

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PSG have a lot of talented players, they still have Neymar and Mbappe, I don't know how their fate will be decided, but I think Neymar is on good terms with Enrique and he can stay in the team. Mbappe may also stay, as his market price is very high and few people will be ready to buy him now. It seems to me that Enrique is a very good coach and it is a pity that PSG did not dare to call him when Messi was also in the team, but I think PSG can win the Champions League without Messi if they give Enrique enough time to do so.
Psg can win the champions league if they have a team in harmony, there is too much disharmony in psg and they have players who think that their pride is bigger than the team. If Enrique is ever going to win the champions league with psg they have to sell the players who think that they are bigger than the club, players like Mbappe. Psg are not running their club in the right way and they are at fault why some of their players think they are bigger than the club, look at how they made Mbappe feel like he is more important than any player or staff in psg, the club have to stop doing that if they want to build a team.

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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid. But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.

Well, So far PSG has not managed the riches of the clubside well; with Messi off to USA; Neymar about to leave and Mbappe flirting with Real Madrid, it has exposed PSG spending because the squad is an average one and the new coach now have an uphill task to do. Will PSG be able to rebuild their squad?
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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid. But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.

Well, So far PSG has not managed the riches of the clubside well; with Messi off to USA; Neymar about to leave and Mbappe flirting with Real Madrid, it has exposed PSG spending because the squad is an average one and the new coach now have an uphill task to do. Will PSG be able to rebuild their squad?

The new coach has the same uphill task as all of his predecessors. He is supposed to win the Champions League and since that didn't work out in the last ten years, it also is unlikely to work out in the next ten years and as you said, especially now when all those superstars is gone, how can those expectations even be upheld? When Mbappe now leaves the club, Luis Enrique won't have a chance to win that trophy and he knows how hard it was back when he had Neymar and Messi in Barcelona.

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July 13, 2023, 11:46:32 PM
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Well, So far PSG has not managed the riches of the clubside well; with Messi off to USA; Neymar about to leave and Mbappe flirting with Real Madrid, it has exposed PSG spending because the squad is an average one and the new coach now have an uphill task to do. Will PSG be able to rebuild their squad?
If only for the Ligue1 realm, PSG might still have enough ability to build their squad better. But next season is not only talking about Ligue1 for PSG, because PSG must also be able to fight better in the UCL which is a very difficult thing for PSG because they have to have some great players with the tactics of a new coach. And of the several players PSG have acquired through the transfer market, I don't think they were all bad players in the previous team.
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