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December 05, 2023, 03:14:46 PM
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I had to have a look at their club history to find out that they did indeed play in Ligue 2 a very long while ago, but now they are used to Ligue and have been such a well recognized club in the highest French Ligue. They had great times in the past but at the moment they remind me a little bit of Ajax Amsterdam. The comparison isn't perfect because Ajax Amsterdam made the turn possible now, but it looked awful when they crashed down the whole table at once and stayed there for a while. I also have big doubts that this will end peacefully for Olympique Lyon.
It is hard to compare Ajax Amsterdam with Lyon since Ajax in Eredivisie is quite similar to Bayern Munich in Bundesliga. Everyone will be shocked whenever they see Bayern Munich in the bottom of the table. People were surprised when they saw Ajax Amsterdam in the relegation zone. When it came to Lyon, they started dropping slowly. Like 10 years ago, they were competing PSG for the title then they were hovering around the fourth spot up to 7th or 8th and this season they crashed to the last place for good. What happened to Lyon was progressive at the opposite of Ajax Amsterdam and I find it difficult for them to avoid this trap this season!

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December 05, 2023, 03:34:49 PM
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I had to have a look at their club history to find out that they did indeed play in Ligue 2 a very long while ago, but now they are used to Ligue and have been such a well recognized club in the highest French Ligue. They had great times in the past but at the moment they remind me a little bit of Ajax Amsterdam. The comparison isn't perfect because Ajax Amsterdam made the turn possible now, but it looked awful when they crashed down the whole table at once and stayed there for a while. I also have big doubts that this will end peacefully for Olympique Lyon.
Sometimes we see such examples, not so long ago Arsenal started the season just as badly, but then managed to come back. Or this happens periodically with Monaco, when they sell too many players, but they always return to the top because they know how to find young talent. With Lyon everything is more difficult, it seems that they cannot get out of the bottom, although a couple of victories could change everything and add confidence to the team. It looks like their season will be about getting out of the relegation zone.

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December 05, 2023, 03:38:45 PM
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It seems very certain that Lyon will be relegated even though there are still many games in this season but there is no visible change in their appearance apart from changes in coaching, so there is not much hope that they can survive the relegation zone unless management makes drastic changes, especially in the transfer market later by buying several players to improve their weaknesses this season which occur in all areas, their attack is bad as well as their defense, if they can make significant changes there is still a chance of survival because the team above them in points is not much different so it is very possible to catch up so that next season they can still play in League 1.
Ligue 1 is almost halfway through the season, and Lyon is the worst team in the half season. I think their chances of staying in Ligue 1 will be very difficult. They have poor goal productivity and conceded numbers. Some teams only have 1 or 2 weak points and they can cover them by taking advantage of the transfer market later. But fixing weaknesses in all areas is not an easy thing to do. It would be a shame if a strong team like Lyon had to be relegated because of bad management.

For some teams like Arsenal, they are only bad for a few matches and then find their best performance again and can compete at the top of the standings. But I think Lyon won't be like that. They are really bad even the league is almost halfway through the season.

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December 05, 2023, 04:20:17 PM
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If they are relegated from League 1, this will cause bad news for the management because the fans will want them to stop managing the team. In order for Lyon, which is in an important place in League 1, to overcome this bad situation, the management needs to do great work during the halftime.
It would clearly be very bad for Lyon if the team actually experienced relegation this season, because previously the Lyon team was quite good in Ligue1. And in the near future, Lyon will also face Marseille, who previously won at home when they hosted Rennes, so it will be quite difficult for Lyon to beat Marseille in the near future if Lyon doesn't work hard and get better performance. Because Marseille is of course still very enthusiastic about winning the next match which will take place at home.
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December 05, 2023, 04:29:27 PM
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If they are relegated from League 1, this will cause bad news for the management because the fans will want them to stop managing the team. In order for Lyon, which is in an important place in League 1, to overcome this bad situation, the management needs to do great work during the halftime.
It seems very certain that Lyon will be relegated even though there are still many games in this season but there is no visible change in their appearance apart from changes in coaching, so there is not much hope that they can survive the relegation zone unless management makes drastic changes, especially in the transfer market later by buying several players to improve their weaknesses this season which occur in all areas, their attack is bad as well as their defense, if they can make significant changes there is still a chance of survival because the team above them in points is not much different so it is very possible to catch up so that next season they can still play in League 1.

I think, if for example Lyon is ready to spend a lot of funds then ya, at least that factor might have a direct impact on Lyon's performance this season. But, if for example in the January transfer market Lyon does not make many changes to the team, then of course Lyon will prepare to be relegated. At least, Lyon can still catch up if they are fully recovered. Therefore, I think before Lyon is too far behind, it is appropriate for management to move quickly to restore Lyon performance this season. At least not being relegated and indeed, is not easy but if they have the right efforts then ya, I believe it is still possible for Lyon to escape the relegation zone.

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December 05, 2023, 05:03:14 PM
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I think it is appropriate for Lille to aim for a place in the champions league next season because they are a team that is consistent every season and only experienced a few obstacles before finally being able to get that place. But it won't be easy because the competition keeps changing every season (not the case for PSG) and I'm happy to see Lille can continue like this. I also always win bets when I include Lille in the multibet list and that's why I like this team. The game against PSG is still about two weeks away and of course Lille will try to take these points from PSG.

Brest is the next threat for Metz and it seems that this time it will not be an easy match for Metz, especially since Brest is a fairly strong team in the middle of the table and in my opinion, even though this match takes place at Metz's home ground, there is a possibility that the result will be a draw or loss for Metz. But the worst thing is that Metz lost again against Brest and that is something they must avoid.
That's right, it won't be easy for Lille. Especially, on the other side Monaco and Nice will probably continue to maintain their position, so Lille must be able to consistently collect lots of points. Also, so far Lille has not meet PSG or Monaco, so maybe Lille position is not completely comfortable either. But Lille must to be careful Lens performance, this club seems already improved and it is possible that they will be consistent.

In my opinion, the possibility of a draw result is higher in this match. Because it won't be easy for both teams to beat each other, but for betting I personally prefer both teams to scored with odds @1.8 for now. Hopefully can happened, because usually betting on team in middle of the table is often surprising.

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December 05, 2023, 06:11:38 PM
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Finally, one by one competitor teams in Ligue 1 have consistency performance and make PSG lead top position behind many points left. Current standings PSG have 4 points remaining from Nice who get first loss in this season from Nantes last match, I doubt with some teams pressure PSG on top standings will have consistent performance and become easily for PSG win Ligue trophy without have to play until 38 matches.

It would clearly be very bad for Lyon if the team actually experienced relegation this season, because previously the Lyon team was quite good in Ligue1. And in the near future, Lyon will also face Marseille, who previously won at home when they hosted Rennes, so it will be quite difficult for Lyon to beat Marseille in the near future if Lyon doesn't work hard and get better performance. Because Marseille is of course still very enthusiastic about winning the next match which will take place at home.
So sad looking on current standings from most historical Ligue 1 team Lyon after dropping to bottom position, the only one Ligue 1 teams participants with one winning of 13 matches and they have loss 8 matches. Upcoming match against Marseille seems losing record for Lyon will continues and looks difficult for defeating Marseille exactly Marseille fans will make huge pressure for Lyon with match will play in front f Marseille fans.

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December 05, 2023, 06:15:21 PM
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I think it is appropriate for Lille to aim for a place in the champions league next season because they are a team that is consistent every season and only experienced a few obstacles before finally being able to get that place. But it won't be easy because the competition keeps changing every season (not the case for PSG) and I'm happy to see Lille can continue like this. I also always win bets when I include Lille in the multibet list and that's why I like this team. The game against PSG is still about two weeks away and of course Lille will try to take these points from PSG.

Brest is the next threat for Metz and it seems that this time it will not be an easy match for Metz, especially since Brest is a fairly strong team in the middle of the table and in my opinion, even though this match takes place at Metz's home ground, there is a possibility that the result will be a draw or loss for Metz. But the worst thing is that Metz lost again against Brest and that is something they must avoid.
That's right, it won't be easy for Lille. Especially, on the other side Monaco and Nice will probably continue to maintain their position, so Lille must be able to consistently collect lots of points. Also, so far Lille has not meet PSG or Monaco, so maybe Lille position is not completely comfortable either. But Lille must to be careful Lens performance, this club seems already improved and it is possible that they will be consistent.

In my opinion, the possibility of a draw result is higher in this match. Because it won't be easy for both teams to beat each other, but for betting I personally prefer both teams to scored with odds @1.8 for now. Hopefully can happened, because usually betting on team in middle of the table is often surprising.

Lille is defending very well this season. With less than one goal conceded per game they can collect valuable points against stronger teams due to their defense. That is what they have to pay attention to first and foremost, make sure that they don't get knocked out in the first minutes against teams like PSG or Monaco. Nice and Lens are more similar to Lille, all those teams are very strategic about their approach and less explosive. I think from rank 5 to 2 everything is possible for the teams 2-6. I think Monaco is the favorite for the second spot, but the season is still young.

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December 05, 2023, 06:20:01 PM
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So sad looking on current standings from most historical Ligue 1 team Lyon after dropping to bottom position, the only one Ligue 1 teams participants with one winning of 13 matches and they have loss 8 matches. Upcoming match against Marseille seems losing record for Lyon will continues and looks difficult for defeating Marseille exactly Marseille fans will make huge pressure for Lyon with match will play in front f Marseille fans.
There is no doubt and I also think the same thing that Marseille will beat Lyon. It is not without reason that this could happen because Lyon has made no progress at all until now and they are still crushed in the relegation zone. Defeat will only be on Lyon's side and they will not be able to leave the relegation zone without a win. It's quite sad to see Lyon's inappropriate position.
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December 05, 2023, 07:04:11 PM
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I think it is appropriate for Lille to aim for a place in the champions league next season because they are a team that is consistent every season and only experienced a few obstacles before finally being able to get that place. But it won't be easy because the competition keeps changing every season (not the case for PSG) and I'm happy to see Lille can continue like this. I also always win bets when I include Lille in the multibet list and that's why I like this team. The game against PSG is still about two weeks away and of course Lille will try to take these points from PSG.

Brest is the next threat for Metz and it seems that this time it will not be an easy match for Metz, especially since Brest is a fairly strong team in the middle of the table and in my opinion, even though this match takes place at Metz's home ground, there is a possibility that the result will be a draw or loss for Metz. But the worst thing is that Metz lost again against Brest and that is something they must avoid.
That's right, it won't be easy for Lille. Especially, on the other side Monaco and Nice will probably continue to maintain their position, so Lille must be able to consistently collect lots of points. Also, so far Lille has not meet PSG or Monaco, so maybe Lille position is not completely comfortable either. But Lille must to be careful Lens performance, this club seems already improved and it is possible that they will be consistent.

In my opinion, the possibility of a draw result is higher in this match. Because it won't be easy for both teams to beat each other, but for betting I personally prefer both teams to scored with odds @1.8 for now. Hopefully can happened, because usually betting on team in middle of the table is often surprising.
I can see them giving it a try, but that doesn't mean that they are going to get it, it just means that there is a possibility. It's a shame that they built a team that won the only title around the PSG era so they should have been a bit more dominant against other teams after a season like that but they have failed to do that and seems like that was for only one season and nothing more.

It's fine, they could bounce back, they could maybe have another outlier season again in the future if they keep being like this. They are really a good managed team and should be considered as good, I think it should be something that will matter to everyone and could definitely be something that will benefit everyone all the same because if they do win it, the profits of them winning (if you bet on them) will be much higher. Seems like even UCL is a tough spot for them this time around though, and I can understand that, it's fine, it's understandable situation for sure.

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December 05, 2023, 07:23:05 PM
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I had to have a look at their club history to find out that they did indeed play in Ligue 2 a very long while ago, but now they are used to Ligue and have been such a well recognized club in the highest French Ligue. They had great times in the past but at the moment they remind me a little bit of Ajax Amsterdam. The comparison isn't perfect because Ajax Amsterdam made the turn possible now, but it looked awful when they crashed down the whole table at once and stayed there for a while. I also have big doubts that this will end peacefully for Olympique Lyon.
It is hard to compare Ajax Amsterdam with Lyon since Ajax in Eredivisie is quite similar to Bayern Munich in Bundesliga. Everyone will be shocked whenever they see Bayern Munich in the bottom of the table. People were surprised when they saw Ajax Amsterdam in the relegation zone. When it came to Lyon, they started dropping slowly. Like 10 years ago, they were competing PSG for the title then they were hovering around the fourth spot up to 7th or 8th and this season they crashed to the last place for good. What happened to Lyon was progressive at the opposite of Ajax Amsterdam and I find it difficult for them to avoid this trap this season!

I guess you are right here, but my comparison was only referring to this horrible start into the season for Ajax Amsterdam and they are recovering now whereas there is little to no hope for Olympique Lyon. As you said when we take into account the history or the past few years, Ajax Amsterdam was more shocking than Lyon, but nobody saw it coming that Lyon would be that bad. They somehow were hovering around in the middle of the table sometimes, but always got their issues sorted out such that they won't be fighting against the relegation zone, but this time there is no comfort zone in sight for them.

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December 05, 2023, 07:42:46 PM
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So sad looking on current standings from most historical Ligue 1 team Lyon after dropping to bottom position, the only one Ligue 1 teams participants with one winning of 13 matches and they have loss 8 matches. Upcoming match against Marseille seems losing record for Lyon will continues and looks difficult for defeating Marseille exactly Marseille fans will make huge pressure for Lyon with match will play in front f Marseille fans.
There is no doubt and I also think the same thing that Marseille will beat Lyon. It is not without reason that this could happen because Lyon has made no progress at all until now and they are still crushed in the relegation zone. Defeat will only be on Lyon's side and they will not be able to leave the relegation zone without a win. It's quite sad to see Lyon's inappropriate position.

The condition of the Lyon team is very bad this season. I can't imagine seeing this team at the bottom of the points table. Lyon is now at the bottom of the points table with only one win out of 14 matches. Opponent Marseille is much stronger than Lyon this season. Although this team's performance has been quite weak since the beginning of the season, we have seen very good performances from Marseille players in the last few matches. They have played very well in the last three matches. And Marseille will be able to continue this streak against Lyon. Marseille will definitely not want to lose points in the home match. I think it is profitable to bet on Marseille to win this match.

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December 05, 2023, 08:08:04 PM
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I guess you are right here, but my comparison was only referring to this horrible start into the season for Ajax Amsterdam and they are recovering now whereas there is little to no hope for Olympique Lyon. As you said when we take into account the history or the past few years, Ajax Amsterdam was more shocking than Lyon, but nobody saw it coming that Lyon would be that bad. They somehow were hovering around in the middle of the table sometimes, but always got their issues sorted out such that they won't be fighting against the relegation zone, but this time there is no comfort zone in sight for them.
The relegation zone is fundamentally what everyone is avoiding this season. The Eredivisie and Ligue One are both different leagues an the team's in these leagues operates differently. Lyon is not surviving or returning to winning ways anytime soon, instead we will be watching the terrible performance and it might become too worse for them if the board or the coach doesn't scout out way to fixed the critical issue on ground. Ajax and Lyon started on the wrong foot this season but Ajax have pick form and have started winning matches this season.

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December 05, 2023, 09:01:20 PM
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So sad looking on current standings from most historical Ligue 1 team Lyon after dropping to bottom position, the only one Ligue 1 teams participants with one winning of 13 matches and they have loss 8 matches. Upcoming match against Marseille seems losing record for Lyon will continues and looks difficult for defeating Marseille exactly Marseille fans will make huge pressure for Lyon with match will play in front f Marseille fans.
There is no doubt and I also think the same thing that Marseille will beat Lyon. It is not without reason that this could happen because Lyon has made no progress at all until now and they are still crushed in the relegation zone. Defeat will only be on Lyon's side and they will not be able to leave the relegation zone without a win. It's quite sad to see Lyon's inappropriate position.
for me, Marseille victory cannot be a guarantee because currently Marseille has also just recovered from its bad performance and still looks inconsistent and for me against Lyon it might be very easy for Marseille to get 3 points but it seems like the chance of a draw is more obvious in today match.
but to bet on this match it seems I would not choose to bet on one of these teams but choosing a score over 2 is much better.

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December 05, 2023, 09:10:52 PM
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Finally, one by one competitor teams in Ligue 1 have consistency performance and make PSG lead top position behind many points left. Current standings PSG have 4 points remaining from Nice who get first loss in this season from Nantes last match, I doubt with some teams pressure PSG on top standings will have consistent performance and become easily for PSG win Ligue trophy without have to play until 38 matches.
This was a good performance from Luis Enrique's men. PSG, who are doubtful of performing well this season, have proven that they do not deserve to be underestimated like that. Luis Enrique is starting to get the best form from his team and that is smoothing out a lot of his plans to win the Ligue 1 title. PSG's winning consistency in Ligue 1 is currently good and so far PSG has only managed 1 defeat and 3 draws in 14 matches.

PSG's dominance in Ligue 1 is difficult to stop, but that doesn't mean other teams can't. The same thing was also mentioned about Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, but the competition will get tougher every season. Ligue 1 teams will try their best to stop PSG, but because PSG has squad depth and quality coaches, it must be admitted that PSG will be difficult to stop.

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December 05, 2023, 09:24:35 PM
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The condition of the Lyon team is very bad this season. I can't imagine seeing this team at the bottom of the points table. Lyon is now at the bottom of the points table with only one win out of 14 matches. Opponent Marseille is much stronger than Lyon this season. Although this team's performance has been quite weak since the beginning of the season, we have seen very good performances from Marseille players in the last few matches. They have played very well in the last three matches. And Marseille will be able to continue this streak against Lyon. Marseille will definitely not want to lose points in the home match. I think it is profitable to bet on Marseille to win this match.

Lyon form this season surprised me like Lyon that I know have never been this backwards to the extent of being at the bottom of the table in the relegation zone after they've played 13 matches, out of which they won just one match, drew 4 and lost 8 matches. Like this is the worst performance of Lyon since I started following up the club and despite the fact that they still have more matches to play before the end of the season but I feel that they may not really be able to escape relegation this season.

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December 05, 2023, 09:25:24 PM
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So sad looking on current standings from most historical Ligue 1 team Lyon after dropping to bottom position, the only one Ligue 1 teams participants with one winning of 13 matches and they have loss 8 matches. Upcoming match against Marseille seems losing record for Lyon will continues and looks difficult for defeating Marseille exactly Marseille fans will make huge pressure for Lyon with match will play in front f Marseille fans.
There is no doubt and I also think the same thing that Marseille will beat Lyon. It is not without reason that this could happen because Lyon has made no progress at all until now and they are still crushed in the relegation zone. Defeat will only be on Lyon's side and they will not be able to leave the relegation zone without a win. It's quite sad to see Lyon's inappropriate position.
With Lyon's current condition, it is very difficult for them to win, even against weak teams, they lose, especially against Marseille, which has quality players, and they are even confident that in this match they will win three points because they are playing in front of their own fans. Lyon themselves have only achieved one win this season until their 13th match. Lyon is really down. I see that Lyon's fate is like Chelsea. After changing ownership (American businessmen), their performance immediately declined and slumped.

I hope that Lyon can bounce back because they are one of the elite clubs in Ligue 1. Maybe the Lyon coach needs to fix the instability in the back room because this will affect performance on the pitch. The instability of Lyon's backroom script greatly affected the play on the pitch. High-performance teams start in the back room, not in the middle of the field. Improve the backspace and performance will improve.
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December 05, 2023, 10:23:33 PM
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So sad looking on current standings from most historical Ligue 1 team Lyon after dropping to bottom position, the only one Ligue 1 teams participants with one winning of 13 matches and they have loss 8 matches. Upcoming match against Marseille seems losing record for Lyon will continues and looks difficult for defeating Marseille exactly Marseille fans will make huge pressure for Lyon with match will play in front f Marseille fans.
There is no doubt and I also think the same thing that Marseille will beat Lyon. It is not without reason that this could happen because Lyon has made no progress at all until now and they are still crushed in the relegation zone. Defeat will only be on Lyon's side and they will not be able to leave the relegation zone without a win. It's quite sad to see Lyon's inappropriate position.
With Lyon's current condition, it is very difficult for them to win, even against weak teams, they lose, especially against Marseille, which has quality players, and they are even confident that in this match they will win three points because they are playing in front of their own fans. Lyon themselves have only achieved one win this season until their 13th match. Lyon is really down. I see that Lyon's fate is like Chelsea. After changing ownership (American businessmen), their performance immediately declined and slumped.

I hope that Lyon can bounce back because they are one of the elite clubs in Ligue 1. Maybe the Lyon coach needs to fix the instability in the back room because this will affect performance on the pitch. The instability of Lyon's backroom script greatly affected the play on the pitch. High-performance teams start in the back room, not in the middle of the field. Improve the backspace and performance will improve.

Lyon is currently a team they easily donate points to the other teams and I think they are not going to be in the French League in the the next season because of the situation they have right now in their team and that's a reason to say Lyon need urgent changes in the winter maybe the need to hire some players even change the coach for another time during this season to save the team.

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December 05, 2023, 10:32:12 PM
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Lyon is currently a team they easily donate points to the other teams and I think they are not going to be in the French League in the the next season because of the situation they have right now in their team and that's a reason to say Lyon need urgent changes in the winter maybe the need to hire some players even change the coach for another time during this season to save the team.
Why are Lyon board keeping such a coach, the season is moving and there's absolutely no points for Lyon to accumulates small other than woefully losing and claims to bounce back in next match. These clubs thought France league is easy until they experience tougher challenges which they will not be able to escape this season. Olympique Lyonnias should start planning how to start all over again after been demoted to another a subdivision because there's absolutely nothing left for them here, other than giving these elite clubs so easily.

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December 05, 2023, 11:48:04 PM
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Finally, one by one competitor teams in Ligue 1 have consistency performance and make PSG lead top position behind many points left. Current standings PSG have 4 points remaining from Nice who get first loss in this season from Nantes last match, I doubt with some teams pressure PSG on top standings will have consistent performance and become easily for PSG win Ligue trophy without have to play until 38 matches.
This was a good performance from Luis Enrique's men. PSG, who are doubtful of performing well this season, have proven that they do not deserve to be underestimated like that. Luis Enrique is starting to get the best form from his team and that is smoothing out a lot of his plans to win the Ligue 1 title. PSG's winning consistency in Ligue 1 is currently good and so far PSG has only managed 1 defeat and 3 draws in 14 matches.

PSG's dominance in Ligue 1 is difficult to stop, but that doesn't mean other teams can't. The same thing was also mentioned about Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, but the competition will get tougher every season. Ligue 1 teams will try their best to stop PSG, but because PSG has squad depth and quality coaches, it must be admitted that PSG will be difficult to stop.

Unlike many people, I think Enrique didn't bring anything new to PSG and they are having the same performance we saw from them before Enrique joined this team and still PSG with Enrique can only hope for the French League but this team is still far from reaching the Champions League which is their main goals during this season. However, I guess PSG with Enrique is seeing less money than before.


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