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August 16, 2022, 12:36:47 PM
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After just two rounds from the start of Ligue 1, you find PSG in the first spot alone as usual (without considering the delayed game between Lyon and Lorient of course).
We always heard how PSG is good because of money, picking top players...etc but what happens all the time is that the other teams are just failing and missing points vs weaker teams. Brest 1-1 Marseille was the newest thing but Lille, Rennes, Lens weren't any better..
PSG will play vs Monaco and Lille next. If it wins against them, I suppose by the 11th round (vs Marseille), the difference will be 10 points (again).

I think most likely that will be the scenario but I don't know if it will be after the 11th round or further after that round,the end result most probably will be just that,PSG leading comfortably from the second place.This is because PSG as we all know has quite some superstars in their team and they are from another world in terms of quality compared to all the other teams of Ligue 1.The PSG team is in fight for the Champions League title and that is their main objective because they already are Champions of Ligue 1.

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August 16, 2022, 01:25:13 PM
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I think most likely that will be the scenario but I don't know if it will be after the 11th round or further after that round,the end result most probably will be just that,PSG leading comfortably from the second place.This is because PSG as we all know has quite some superstars in their team and they are from another world in terms of quality compared to all the other teams of Ligue 1.The PSG team is in fight for the Champions League title and that is their main objective because they already are Champions of Ligue 1.
Neymar understands his situation now. He even has worse record than Cavani in the past when he conflicted with Cavani with another penalty-gate. Cavani already as legendary player of PSG when Neymar came but Neymar now is not considered a legendary player in PSG. He does  not have bad statistics after 5 seasons there but he does not meet expectation of the club.

Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.
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August 16, 2022, 03:15:21 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

If PSG wants to do well in the Champions League, they must resolve the conflict between their star players. The pair of Messi and Neymar are playing brilliantly, but Mbappe is unable to cope with them due to conflict. If the chemistry between this trio is good then we will see PSG's attack in a stronger form. Mbappe should develop a friendly relationship with Messi and Neymar. It will also be good for Mbappe's own career. Messi is very helpful, if Mbappe can adapt to Messi then I believe Mbappe will be able to score more goals.

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August 16, 2022, 03:24:02 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.

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August 16, 2022, 03:40:38 PM
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I am also looking forward to seeing PSG's performance in the Champions League. PSG looks more stable this season than last season. Because Neymar and Messi's chemistry seems even better now. At the same time, if Mbappe can return to form, PSG will be even stronger. PSG is strong as a team. Boarding between players is now very good. If Galtier organizes his match strategy well, PSG can play well in the Champions League.
For some reason, I do not believe that Galtier will be able to create a miracle in PSG. It’s hasty to draw conclusions from Ligue 1 matches, because PSG almost always dominates there and they don’t have worthy rivals, it's not very well. Another thing is the Champions League, where the rivals are much stronger and we can say that PSG can only temper their character in the Champions League. It is strange that it was Galtier who became the coach of PSG, there are so many experienced specialists, but they chose him.

You may not believe it, but it is not impossible. Galtier broke PSG's dominance in Ligue 1 and led Lille to the title. Lille's title win was also almost impossible. Christophe Galtier made it possible. Now PSG has a lot of talented players in the squad, if the players are able to perform well from their position, surely PSG will play well in the Champions League as well. However, we are still not sure about this. But I believe Christophe Galtier has the potential.

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August 16, 2022, 03:53:37 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
You are absolutely right. Neymar and Mbappe are undoubtedly very good players But there is a lot of emotional turmoil among them at present. It goes without saying that they are not on very good terms at present I think this is the kind of personal distance that PSG fans never want to see on the field of play At the end of the day, football fans want to be gifted with a good match. A good match is only when there is a good relationship between the players Hopefully the emotional turmoil between Neymar and Mbappe will be resolved soon

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August 16, 2022, 04:22:56 PM
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I read Mbappe had a plea for Neymar to leave him to the penalty duties and Neymar refused. Kylian Mbappe called on the board to sell Neymar and when Neymar found out he was offended by that. Also Kylian Mbappe needs to drop those shoulders alse he will fail.
They are both good player's that can win whatever they face but they seem not to be matured in the slightest way. They should both take good look at Lionel Messi to learn how it goes. Galtier says he wants Neymar around and not Icardi I'm keen to see how they build bonds once again on the pitch.

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August 16, 2022, 04:51:17 PM
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I read Mbappe had a plea for Neymar to leave him to the penalty duties and Neymar refused. Kylian Mbappe called on the board to sell Neymar and when Neymar found out he was offended by that. Also Kylian Mbappe needs to drop those shoulders alse he will fail.
They are both good player's that can win whatever they face but they seem not to be matured in the slightest way. They should both take good look at Lionel Messi to learn how it goes. Galtier says he wants Neymar around and not Icardi I'm keen to see how they build bonds once again on the pitch.
Actually in this case it is quite unfortunate for the attitude shown by Mbappe, maybe some people say that this is normal because he must be quite annoyed with the missed first penalty, but asking to come back with a condition he is upset is clearly not an option.
Even if you see there is a fan who says openly on social media that PSG now belongs to Mbappe alone and interestingly Neymar likes the tweet.

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August 16, 2022, 06:03:49 PM
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I read Mbappe had a plea for Neymar to leave him to the penalty duties and Neymar refused. Kylian Mbappe called on the board to sell Neymar and when Neymar found out he was offended by that. Also Kylian Mbappe needs to drop those shoulders alse he will fail.
They are both good player's that can win whatever they face but they seem not to be matured in the slightest way. They should both take good look at Lionel Messi to learn how it goes. Galtier says he wants Neymar around and not Icardi I'm keen to see how they build bonds once again on the pitch.
Actually in this case it is quite unfortunate for the attitude shown by Mbappe, maybe some people say that this is normal because he must be quite annoyed with the missed first penalty, but asking to come back with a condition he is upset is clearly not an option.
Even if you see there is a fan who says openly on social media that PSG now belongs to Mbappe alone and interestingly Neymar likes the tweet.
I actually never doubted that Mbappe is one of the best players at the moment,
but with the attitude shown on the pitch like that I think it's a shame,
he really looks selfish and of course that's not good for the team

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August 16, 2022, 09:18:05 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.
It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
I do agree that there is this underlying problem there. Mbappe thinks that he is the best player and maybe he is right, but Messi and Neymar comes from a long life of being amazing players, and instead of trying to act like he is the best player, Mbappe should try to learn more from his elders.

Neymar and Messi can still play amazingly and does, and Mbappe could learn so much from that wisdom. Instead, he is trying to lead the team and wants everyone to follow him as the leader and the best player and worship him. Keeping PSG hostage for that insane salary is another proof of that, he thinks he is invincible and PSG just gave him to keys as well.

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It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
That's how PSG convinced Mbappe to stay and sign his new contract because otherwise he would have been at Real Madrid this season. To be honest sometimes I find him very selfish but he has good performances as a striker but if this keeps happening then PSG are the most disadvantaged team because the star players don't fit in.

I see Messi is freer to play without Mbappe, the same thing happened to Neymar. Even when I saw PSG win games when all three played, then the performance of one or two of these players was not very good. It must have been different when Barcelona formed the MSN trio, it's amazing because Messi knows how to pamper his team-mates.

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August 16, 2022, 10:36:59 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
Looking at the other side of this story on the issues growing between Neymar and Mbape,it can in other words bring success to the team,because the both players will have a competition between them which will make them thrive towards getting more goals individually,and it will help the team.They will both be fighting for who will have the highest goal,so I see that the rivalry between them will inturn bring good result.
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August 17, 2022, 03:19:05 AM
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After just two rounds from the start of Ligue 1, you find PSG in the first spot alone as usual (without considering the delayed game between Lyon and Lorient of course).
We always heard how PSG is good because of money, picking top players...etc but what happens all the time is that the other teams are just failing and missing points vs weaker teams. Brest 1-1 Marseille was the newest thing but Lille, Rennes, Lens weren't any better..
PSG will play vs Monaco and Lille next. If it wins against them, I suppose by the 11th round (vs Marseille), the difference will be 10 points (again).

Reading about all the rumors of bustups between their stars now I'm even wondering if it's real, or if it's not even a thing that rivals are trying to play up.

Monaco and Lille better try and win their games otherwise we're going to have a boring season yet again.

btw snipie aren't you playing the Champions League pool? PSG picks maybe? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408229.msg60662315#msg60662315

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Looking at the other side of this story on the issues growing between Neymar and Mbape,it can in other words bring success to the team,because the both players will have a competition between them which will make them thrive towards getting more goals individually,and it will help the team.They will both be fighting for who will have the highest goal,so I see that the rivalry between them will inturn bring good result.
Have new drama between Mbappe and Neymar in this season after both player try to be penalty kicker when PSG success defeated Montpellier 5-2 last week. I think this problem looks not have ended time because Mbappe keep trying to get penalty kicker for next match, I think give bad impact for PSG team and Christophe Galtier should be commitment giving penalty kicker before match begin. Another match we can see between Neymar and Mbappe will show their individual skill for scoring goals than keep make team working.

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Looking at the other side of this story on the issues growing between Neymar and Mbape,it can in other words bring success to the team,because the both players will have a competition between them which will make them thrive towards getting more goals individually,and it will help the team.They will both be fighting for who will have the highest goal,so I see that the rivalry between them will inturn bring good result.
Have new drama between Mbappe and Neymar in this season after both player try to be penalty kicker when PSG success defeated Montpellier 5-2 last week. I think this problem looks not have ended time because Mbappe keep trying to get penalty kicker for next match, I think give bad impact for PSG team and Christophe Galtier should be commitment giving penalty kicker before match begin. Another match we can see between Neymar and Mbappe will show their individual skill for scoring goals than keep make team working.
This is a problem that Paris Saint Germain often faces. Disharmony between players is a problem for the team itself. Here is seen a very high selfishness shown by the "star" players. True, the coach must take decisive steps for something like this, it may seem trivial. But if left unchecked, it will slowly destroy the team from within.

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August 17, 2022, 09:50:11 AM
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Actually in this case it is quite unfortunate for the attitude shown by Mbappe, maybe some people say that this is normal because he must be quite annoyed with the missed first penalty, but asking to come back with a condition he is upset is clearly not an option.
Even if you see there is a fan who says openly on social media that PSG now belongs to Mbappe alone and interestingly Neymar likes the tweet.
Kylian Mbappé is star kid of this generation but still he needs to understand things and never been selfish because alone he can't do anything positive for his team and surely this can create more feud and problems for their team which is going to hurt their cause for winning Champions League. Neymar is also a big star of this generation, and now he is also improving very drastically which mean they have to done positive competition for better results and improving quality not for just having his own sack which surely going to kill their team work.

PSG management is also doing nothing right and giving some extraordinary treatment to Kylian Mbappé can create problems for them, they need to do fair policy for all players which is very important for better discipline in the team.

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August 17, 2022, 09:57:04 AM
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Have new drama between Mbappe and Neymar in this season after both player try to be penalty kicker when PSG success defeated Montpellier 5-2 last week. I think this problem looks not have ended time because Mbappe keep trying to get penalty kicker for next match, I think give bad impact for PSG team and Christophe Galtier should be commitment giving penalty kicker before match begin. Another match we can see between Neymar and Mbappe will show their individual skill for scoring goals than keep make team working.
You must know that Mbappe is one of the very selfish strikers. He has good skills, but he is not mature enough to understand well how he can help his friend get a good performance. He doesn't like to give in, it's a loss that would have a negative impact on PSG.

Having star players like Neymar, Mbappe and Messi in one team is a great thing. But if the coach can't handle them well then their performance will not be good in a game. They will try to be at their best individually which should be a team game, so the coach has to do something about this situation.

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August 17, 2022, 10:07:22 AM
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They are all big name's you see but bringing in style and pride into the games has been a red flag to most of them. Messi? You will never see him do that, he plays football with his heart, might just see him having bad games on e in a blue moon and also due to change of league. Spanish La Liga has been a lot more different than it use to be at the French League,but that hasn't stopped him any chance of uping his game. Not Nominated for the Ballon d'or is less, as Messi will get triggered for the award next season.

Over 80 percent of what I read from this thread is all about Paris Saint Germans,why no Lillie? Marseille? Lyon ? Rennes and also Monaco who has won the league in the last ten years. PSG seems to be the most interesting team to watch and write about.

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You must know that Mbappe is one of the very selfish strikers. He has good skills, but he is not mature enough to understand well how he can help his friend get a good performance. He doesn't like to give in, it's a loss that would have a negative impact on PSG.
What do you people expect? Since Ronaldo is his Idol and a role model, his attitude is not far from him. Selfish, Greedy and Arrogance. He always wants to be the center of attention like his Idol. Mbape thinks he's the star boy. In his mind he has won a WC so he's proud. What he must know is, humbleness is key to every success in life. Messi at his age already had balon d'ors but still he is humble and down to earth. He should respect and humble himself to his elders, so he goes far.
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You must know that Mbappe is one of the very selfish strikers. He has good skills, but he is not mature enough to understand well how he can help his friend get a good performance. He doesn't like to give in, it's a loss that would have a negative impact on PSG.
What do you people expect? Since Ronaldo is his Idol and a role model, his attitude is not far from him. Selfish, Greedy and Arrogance. He always wants to be the center of attention like his Idol. Mbape thinks he's the star boy. In his mind he has won a WC so he's proud. What he must know is, humbleness is key to every success in life. Messi at his age already had balon d'ors but still he is humble and down to earth. He should respect and humble himself to his elders, so he goes far.

you are right Mbappe is humble and gentle. He should follow Messi. Seniors should be respected. Then his fans will respect him. There is no doubt that Mbappe is a talented player. But he should think about the situation of the team. If Mbappe himself performs well but does not benefit the team, then this performance is worthless. Mbappe must understand this. Must develop good relationship with other team players.

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