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November 18, 2022, 06:05:36 PM
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Otherwise this trio is quite likely to disband in the near future. Maybe we would see all of them here one more season but I don't expect the trio to stay the same after that. Apart from Messi and Neymar, even Mbappe might think of leaving depending on a possible strong offer by another solid team which are successful in the Champions League also.
So do you think if PSG fail to win the UCL Trophy the trio of Messi, Mbappe, Neymar will disband?
PSG has never won a UCL trophy, but that doesn't mean their flagship trio will move to another club if they fail to win the UCL trophy this season. You speak without clear sources, very unfounded assumptions about this.

Shifts from 2 to 4 in the standings will still occur. They are a team that cannot be judged consistently and still tend to be unstable in maintaining their position. Let's see what happens to Marseille who dropped down the rankings due to their inconsistency in recent matches, and it will also apply to other teams like Lens and Renners. Indeed, their current points gain is quite wide, but it is still very easy for them to move positions in the standings.
Ligue 1 has just finished its 15th week, teams like Lens, Rennes and Marseille are not secure in their positions because besides the competition is still long, their performances are also up and down. Lorient, Monaco and Lille are still capable of surprising.

Apart from PSG, other teams have not been able to keep their performances consistent, changes in the standings will still occur as long as the season is still running. Surprises will always be present in second to fourth positions, teams ranked in the big six will fight for a place in the Champions League zone.
While Lens is still safely in place because the gap is slightly wider than the team below, there is still a possibility for Rennes and Marseille to move up to second place if Lens is not consistent.

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November 18, 2022, 06:15:16 PM
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PSG's main goal about bringing Messi and Neymar here as well and building the "trio" has always been winning the Champions League title. Therefore if they continue to fail in their goal anyway then I don't know if any of these players would think about leaving. Maybe not because of lacking the Champions League title but for example Messi might think of leaving at a point. Because he might be still thinking of retiring at Barcelona. But until then I don't see any reason for him to leave.

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November 18, 2022, 06:45:31 PM
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PSG's main goal about bringing Messi and Neymar here as well and building the "trio" has always been winning the Champions League title. Therefore if they continue to fail in their goal anyway then I don't know if any of these players would think about leaving. Maybe not because of lacking the Champions League title but for example Messi might think of leaving at a point. Because he might be still thinking of retiring at Barcelona. But until then I don't see any reason for him to leave.
The possibility will continue to happen but in this case I think not for Messi even though he still hopes to retire at Barcelona but it's a different story with Neymar. Last season he was often rumored to leave and did not rule out the possibility for the next season to be the same, especially in this case he still has a prolonged conflict with the club owner even though his contract is still quite long but it does not rule out the possibility of him leaving sooner.

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November 18, 2022, 07:07:01 PM
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PSG's main goal about bringing Messi and Neymar here as well and building the "trio" has always been winning the Champions League title. Therefore if they continue to fail in their goal anyway then I don't know if any of these players would think about leaving. Maybe not because of lacking the Champions League title but for example Messi might think of leaving at a point. Because he might be still thinking of retiring at Barcelona. But until then I don't see any reason for him to leave.
It is very clear that Paris Saint Germain's main goal is to bring in a lot of star players because they want to win the Champions League trophy. But so far their plans have not worked out so well and they are still having trouble making it happen. I won't be surprised when in the transfer market they bring in Cristiano Ronaldo to join them. They don't care about the money they will spend to get the players they want. But keep in mind that money does not guarantee to bring them a title.

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November 18, 2022, 07:29:08 PM
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Otherwise this trio is quite likely to disband in the near future. Maybe we would see all of them here one more season but I don't expect the trio to stay the same after that. Apart from Messi and Neymar, even Mbappe might think of leaving depending on a possible strong offer by another solid team which are successful in the Champions League also.
Can't expected with PSG trio exist for several season later based on Lionel Messi contract left until June 2023, its seems he has few months later before his contract over with PSG and waiting new agreement extended contract discussing after World Cup 2022. Not only with Lionel Messi future with PSG have big question but also Mbappe one step forward have rumor moving to Manchester United on next window transfer although its little possible based on contract left with PSG until 2025.

For Lionel Messi and Neymar they have Champion League tittle in their career with Barcelona but Mbappe still not yet have this tittle, I doubt with his opportunity can get Champion League tittle with PSG and he needs looking for bigger opportunity on other team if want get Champion League tittle in his football career.

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November 18, 2022, 08:27:31 PM
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PSG will have all of the players in their trio against Bayern Munich for sure. Otherwise their chance of advancing to next round would be quite low. Bayern Munich are already very deadly despite not filling Lewandowski's place. Because they are very strong as a team and they don't depend on a specific player now.

However PSG's situation is different from them. Their squad quality is also good of course but they are dependent on this trio for successes. When it comes to the Ligue 1, PSG are already comfortable. I don't think Lens would stay close to them for too long. PSG would be much safer until the Champions League games start.

I really wonder why many football fans think that bayern munchen will be the favor team in this match, psg is very strong right now and the fact that they qualified in the second spot this really don't mean anything, i expect Bayern munchen to win and qualify for the next round
Well, the truth is that PSG is not bad, I believe in the quality of each of its players, and I praise it, Messi, Neymar and Mbappé are exceptional, for me they are a great blunderbuss, but in terms of performance The team has many vulnerabilities, and I think they can be adjusted at a technical level, however it is difficult when you have practically the best stars in the world working, but Bayern have some players who play as if they were 1, they all work very well as a team , their defense is solid, their midfield is one of the best and apart from that their striker is the most lethal they have, that is what should be considered.

Marseille are definitely my favourite for the second position in the standings. For now Lens have the position but I don't expect them to be consistent until the end of the season. Marseille should be able to take advantage of having a better squad quality than them. They just had a bad time period for some weeks but things are better now. The recent two wins should give them a boost.

Maybe there is still no team that is able to fight with PSG for the title until the end. But at least there is a nice competition for the rest of the top positions.
It's what you say, Lens doesn't look bad, but I think they can quickly lose second place, at first I saw Marseille as one of the candidates so that they could compete with PSG, but eventually it's not like that, also Lille They are teams that I saw very well for everything, I even thought that they could perform a miracle and be above PSG, what happens is that when only Ney and Messi get together it is something that can destroy any team, it is very It's difficult to play against the two of them, and if Mbappé comes out that way, it's much more difficult. To be honest, what I admire PSG the most is that trident, because the truth is, if they weren't there, they wouldn't be first.

Of course this is my personal opinion, if for the next games the teams like Marseille become good players, things can paint much more in their favor, more competition would not be bad.

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November 18, 2022, 08:32:33 PM
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It is very clear that Paris Saint Germain's main goal is to bring in a lot of star players because they want to win the Champions League trophy. But so far their plans have not worked out so well and they are still having trouble making it happen. I won't be surprised when in the transfer market they bring in Cristiano Ronaldo to join them. They don't care about the money they will spend to get the players they want. But keep in mind that money does not guarantee to bring them a title.

There are still people who believe that Ronaldo can be a part of PSG in January but I don't think so. Because it wouldn't be a sensible move for PSG. First of all, they aren't in need of another attacker now. Mbappe - Messi - Neymar trio are already more than enough for them. Let's say that they would think of a substitute striker for Mbappe. Even then Ronaldo shouldn't be their choice. Because he is another big player who shouldn't be waiting in the subs.

In case he comes he would be like an alternative player to one of these players. I don't think that he can play more effective than any of them as all of them are having a very productive season now.

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November 18, 2022, 08:41:07 PM
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We have a long break ahead of us now. Marseille finished the Champions League group stage at the last place despite having one last chance to get away from there. Now they will focus on the Ligue 1 completely so I expect them to fight with whatever they have got.
There is a long break for the World Cup. And we still don't know how the teams will behave after the long break of the World Cup. But since Marseille's main and only goal is Ligue 1. So it can be assumed that they will probably be able to perform a bit better in Ligue 1. However, in Ligue 1, losing points in several consecutive matches, Marseille is now far behind. But they played well in the last two matches. And managed to win against big teams like Lyon and Monaco. If Marseille can continue with that consistency, I think we'll see them finish second in the points table at the end of the season.
Marseille can able to managed 2 consecutive wins from their recent matches on France league this is good for them because finally Marseille can bounce back and their distances points between them and Rennes on 3rd position is not too far so they can chased it in case Marseille should be playing more consistent but unfortunately most of France clubs didn't used this break to do some of friendly matches and after failed on champion league Marseille only focus to Ligue 1 and their schedules on next month and January also not so hard because Marseille only faced mediocre teams such as Toulouse, Montpellier and Troyes so they have to utilized those matches to gets full points and if Marseille can managed their performance i am sure it won't be hard to gets the winning results from them

Marseille is 6 points behind from second placed Lens in the points table and only 1 point behind from Rennes. Closing this point gap should not be too difficult if Marseille is able to perform consistently well. However, it will not be easy to occupy second place in the table. Lens has been performing very well this season. Lens has been defeated in just one match. I think Lens and Marseille will fight for second place in the table. But it is difficult to predict how the teams will perform after the World Cup. We should wait, and make predictions about the teams by seeing their performance after the World Cup.

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November 18, 2022, 08:55:23 PM
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In recent years, Marseille has become a club that can occupy the top 5 positions in the standings table. They always provide competition for the position even though they have not been able to be the best in a season like LOSC for example. With that I'm pretty sure they can compete for the 2nd place in the table just like you. Now they are in 4th position, with a difference of 1 point from Renners and 6 points from Lens. With the remaining matches now it is very possible for them to sit back as runners up like the past few weeks.
That’s not that hard to be fair, Marseille has always been a club that had a good supporter base, which means that no matter what position they ended up with, they would get a certain amount of money from the supporters, add that on a sustainable success rate of being in the top half with that supporter money, and you would get paid more, and use that money smartly instead of doing terrible transfers and you would have yourself some money to spare even.

That’s actually quite easy, you know why not many other teams can't? Because either they are not a club from such big city, or they just do not do great transfers, and spend it on silly players that end up playing below what was paid for them.
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November 18, 2022, 09:28:55 PM
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Marseille impressed with their performance on the last two match weeks of the league. While they were maintaining a really poor form they had to face two challenging opponents like Lyon and Monaco. But these matches were also like opportunities for Marseille to stand up and get into the fight again. After playing really tough matches they really made it in both matches. Especially the Monaco match was very difficult for them as they had to make a comeback from a 2-1 disadvantage. But this kind of big wins must help them recover faster.

We have a long break ahead of us now. Marseille finished the Champions League group stage at the last place despite having one last chance to get away from there. Now they will focus on the Ligue 1 completely so I expect them to fight with whatever they have got.

Marseille has been able to beat two quite competitive teams in the previous two matches. That is going to give them a confidence boost going forward. Though I have to say they started the season better. If the weather is good to continue performing consistently, they could have been in a better position on the table.

But right now they are playing consistently. They have also shown the potential of making a comeback when they need it. And with no distractions like Champions League, they can focus on Ligue-1 right now. And that is certainly going to improve their performance which they are showing already.

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In Ligue 1, apart from PSG, you don't need to expect many other teams to provide great competition at the top. I also have the same thought for the Bundesliga, that's because Bayern Munich is the team that has dominated the most titles in a very long time. Each team involved is more likely to be business and revenue oriented than looking to compete for the title, but that doesn't mean they'll  not win it if the opportunity presents itself.

PSG are unrivaled in Ligue 1, even this season you can 100% believe they are the team that will win the title. There is nothing interesting about them other than if PSG qualify for the final by beating Bayern Munich in the round of 16, and defeating several other teams in the quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals.

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November 18, 2022, 09:43:02 PM
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It is very clear that Paris Saint Germain's main goal is to bring in a lot of star players because they want to win the Champions League trophy. But so far their plans have not worked out so well and they are still having trouble making it happen. I won't be surprised when in the transfer market they bring in Cristiano Ronaldo to join them. They don't care about the money they will spend to get the players they want. But keep in mind that money does not guarantee to bring them a title.
Of course, their main goal is to win the Champions League. In the France League, they are sure to be winners, so far they have always dominated and there is no other club as strong as PSG there. So, the competition is not too tight. But this is different if in the Champions League. They have to face various strong clubs in Europe so however, so they also have to strengthen their squad to become winners. However, as has happened so far, they failed again even though there were many strong players there. But for this season, we still don't know the result, it will be different if they manage to win their first match in round 16 later. However, didn't some of their players also play in the World Cup?
But, to bring Ronaldo to PSG? I don't think this will be, there are so many superstars payers there and this may not be good enough to unity them like in  the gallery.

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November 18, 2022, 10:08:24 PM
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It is very clear that Paris Saint Germain's main goal is to bring in a lot of star players because they want to win the Champions League trophy. But so far their plans have not worked out so well and they are still having trouble making it happen. I won't be surprised when in the transfer market they bring in Cristiano Ronaldo to join them. They don't care about the money they will spend to get the players they want. But keep in mind that money does not guarantee to bring them a title.

There are still people who believe that Ronaldo can be a part of PSG in January but I don't think so. Because it wouldn't be a sensible move for PSG. First of all, they aren't in need of another attacker now. Mbappe - Messi - Neymar trio are already more than enough for them. Let's say that they would think of a substitute striker for Mbappe. Even then Ronaldo shouldn't be their choice. Because he is another big player who shouldn't be waiting in the subs.

In case he comes he would be like an alternative player to one of these players. I don't think that he can play more effective than any of them as all of them are having a very productive season now.
Mbappe plays better than Ronaldo now because Ronaldo is declining in age and Messi will not be benched just for him to play. PSG don't need to add to their existing trouble by signing another star player who is of the same rating with what the currently have in their squad. Ronaldo can't afford to be a substitute just like what he has been reduced to at Manchester United and he will have a big issue taking his favourite number 7 has Mbappe will not be willing to relinquish it.
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November 18, 2022, 11:02:03 PM
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It is very clear that Paris Saint Germain's main goal is to bring in a lot of star players because they want to win the Champions League trophy. But so far their plans have not worked out so well and they are still having trouble making it happen. I won't be surprised when in the transfer market they bring in Cristiano Ronaldo to join them. They don't care about the money they will spend to get the players they want. But keep in mind that money does not guarantee to bring them a title.
There are still people who believe that Ronaldo can be a part of PSG in January but I don't think so. Because it wouldn't be a sensible move for PSG. First of all, they aren't in need of another attacker now. Mbappe - Messi - Neymar trio are already more than enough for them. Let's say that they would think of a substitute striker for Mbappe. Even then Ronaldo shouldn't be their choice. Because he is another big player who shouldn't be waiting in the subs.
In case he comes he would be like an alternative player to one of these players. I don't think that he can play more effective than any of them as all of them are having a very productive season now.
Mbappe plays better than Ronaldo now because Ronaldo is declining in age and Messi will not be benched just for him to play. PSG don't need to add to their existing trouble by signing another star player who is of the same rating with what the currently have in their squad. Ronaldo can't afford to be a substitute just like what he has been reduced to at Manchester United and he will have a big issue taking his favourite number 7 has Mbappe will not be willing to relinquish it.

PSG does not need any more star players in attack. This is why the management of PSG was in a lot of trouble by keeping three big star players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in the team. Galtier has just settled the feud between Neymar and Mbappe. Now if PSG again adds any star player to the team then their performance will become unstable. And I guess Galtier doesn't want to destabilize his team now. PSG have a lot of money. It is possible for them to take Ronaldo into the team. But it will adversely affect their performance. So I think the chances of Ronaldo coming to PSG are very low.

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November 18, 2022, 11:09:43 PM
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Otherwise this trio is quite likely to disband in the near future. Maybe we would see all of them here one more season but I don't expect the trio to stay the same after that. Apart from Messi and Neymar, even Mbappe might think of leaving depending on a possible strong offer by another solid team which are successful in the Champions League also.

LOL, Does winning the UCL title or not have anything to do with their contract at PSG? Believe me, even if they don't win the UCL title, they will still play together at PSG. Then you talk about the potential for Mbappe to leave PSG, is that possible? I think that at the moment there are no other clubs that can sign Mbappe (perhaps financially) other than Real Madrid and also Manchester City, and as we know that Mbappe had already rejected Real Madrid at that time and preferred to stay at PSG because of additional offers. Manchester City, they already have a bomber from Norway "Erling Haaland".
But there could be other repercussions as they continue to fail for the Champions League.
For Mbappe and Messi there may be a little consideration, but it seems not for Neymar because we know that Neymar's condition with PSG is actually not very good from last season and there could be several possibilities regarding his future later, especially if you look at last season there were several clubs who wanted to bring Neymar even though he was hindered by a salary.

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Marseille is 6 points behind from second placed Lens in the points table and only 1 point behind from Rennes. Closing this point gap should not be too difficult if Marseille is able to perform consistently well. However, it will not be easy to occupy second place in the table. Lens has been performing very well this season. Lens has been defeated in just one match. I think Lens and Marseille will fight for second place in the table. But it is difficult to predict how the teams will perform after the World Cup. We should wait, and make predictions about the teams by seeing their performance after the World Cup.
Marseille is second-best club in French League, and mostly they are having spot behind leaders PSG in last few seasons but in current season we have some amazing performances from few clubs like Lorient and Lens with Rennes is also doing good but right now Lorient is slipping badly with having no win in last five matches but Lens and Rennes are still doing amazing job which is surely going to be tough challenge for Marseille because now if they want to stay at top then surely they have to improve their performance and quality which is not easy with Monaco is also doing good even in last game they lost against Marseille at home but still they are also good and quality team in French League which is capable of having good position.
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November 19, 2022, 05:38:41 AM
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It is very clear that Paris Saint Germain's main goal is to bring in a lot of star players because they want to win the Champions League trophy. But so far their plans have not worked out so well and they are still having trouble making it happen. I won't be surprised when in the transfer market they bring in Cristiano Ronaldo to join them. They don't care about the money they will spend to get the players they want. But keep in mind that money does not guarantee to bring them a title.
There are still people who believe that Ronaldo can be a part of PSG in January but I don't think so. Because it wouldn't be a sensible move for PSG. First of all, they aren't in need of another attacker now. Mbappe - Messi - Neymar trio are already more than enough for them. Let's say that they would think of a substitute striker for Mbappe. Even then Ronaldo shouldn't be their choice. Because he is another big player who shouldn't be waiting in the subs.

In case he comes he would be like an alternative player to one of these players. I don't think that he can play more effective than any of them as all of them are having a very productive season now.
Right now, PSG is having most lethal attack in European clubs and with this current situation there is no chance for Ronaldo to be part of this club even in future there is no way they will take any risk like this because he is already done his prime and instead of bringing him and giving luxury salary they can go anyone from new generation player which could be contributed better than Ronaldo even he is still one of the most valuable players, but now things are drastically change, and they can't afford things like these.

PSG is also going to be had changes if their current system fails to bring Champions League title in this season because management is already not happy, and they are not going to wait for another season with most chances if we have no title in this season then surely management is going to put this club on sell.

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November 19, 2022, 06:12:42 AM
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Marseille is 6 points behind from second placed Lens in the points table and only 1 point behind from Rennes. Closing this point gap should not be too difficult if Marseille is able to perform consistently well. However, it will not be easy to occupy second place in the table. Lens has been performing very well this season. Lens has been defeated in just one match. I think Lens and Marseille will fight for second place in the table. But it is difficult to predict how the teams will perform after the World Cup. We should wait, and make predictions about the teams by seeing their performance after the World Cup.
Marseille is second-best club in French League, and mostly they are having spot behind leaders PSG in last few seasons but in current season we have some amazing performances from few clubs like Lorient and Lens with Rennes is also doing good but right now Lorient is slipping badly with having no win in last five matches but Lens and Rennes are still doing amazing job which is surely going to be tough challenge for Marseille because now if they want to stay at top then surely they have to improve their performance and quality which is not easy with Monaco is also doing good even in last game they lost against Marseille at home but still they are also good and quality team in French League which is capable of having good position.

If Marseille can do better and at the same time Lens has good consistency too, then Marseille will still find it difficult to keep close to overtaking second place. But indeed, even though there is a fairly wide point gap like for example 10 can still be pursued, but with the note that the team above it cannot maintain consistency.
What's more, Marseille and Lens only have a six-point gap which, of course, is a point gap that on paper can still be overtaken.

However, this is the third season for Lens playing in Ligue 1, and I think it's too soon for Lens to finish in second place. Because in the previous two seasons Lens had only been able to end the league in seventh place in the standings, and of course that was good consistency for Lens as a promotion team.
But with such consistency, it's still quite possible for Lens to be able to achieve a better position this season, such as for the top five and not in second place.
But if Lens really can end the season in second place, then of course it is a big achievement for them which is achieved in a fairly short time too.

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November 19, 2022, 11:41:11 AM
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After failing in the Champions League, Igor Tudor will automatically focus his troops more on concentrating on Ligue 1. Marseille has time to rest its players, as well as rebuild performance and mentality which had dropped after carrying out a series of busy schedules in various competitions.

With the league paused due to the world cup event, at least Marseille has the opportunity to fix the weaknesses of its troops and prepare the energy to carry out the league after being rolled out again. I am optimistic, Marseille can perform even better after the world cup ends.

on the other hand, Lens is the only strong obstacle to fighting for a place in the 2nd position of the Ligue 1 standings. So far, their performances have been very impressive. it's just that, after this world cup is over. Lens will have tough matches, in particular they will meet PSG later. if Lens slips, losing full points will be an advantage for the team below their ranking, including Marseille which will reduce the gap in points between them. so, the competition for the Ligue 1 runner up is still very wide open.

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November 19, 2022, 12:27:27 PM
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But there could be other repercussions as they continue to fail for the Champions League.
For Mbappe and Messi there may be a little consideration, but it seems not for Neymar because we know that Neymar's condition with PSG is actually not very good from last season and there could be several possibilities regarding his future later, especially if you look at last season there were several clubs who wanted to bring Neymar even though he was hindered by a salary.

I think you are wrong as Mbappe and Neymar's position is the most solid at PSG (especially after Neymar returned to a good level). They are young (even Neymar) and can benefit the club for at least 3-4 years. Messi is already old and I wouldn't be surprised if they replace him with a less stellar but more useful player like Casemiro/Tchouameni/Muller. I don't mean specific players, but the style of the game.

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