French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[onecall123]

The main reason why Messi can leave PSG is age - his influence is already being felt and even though in Ligue 1 PSG can afford to play not at the maximum/have the optimal composition, in the Champions League it is already too dangerous. The second reason is the salary - Messi receives 41 million a year and this is a significant part of PSG's salary fund. Maybe if Argentina does well in the World Cup, Messi leaves PSG for MLS at the end of the season and thus "leaves at the top" from European football.

Messi had a first season in PSG very bad but in this season, the second season there, he has started to show his importance. We saw that in matches without Messi, PSG had issues to create opportunities and find goals. With Messi, their attacking system works more smoothly and more unpredictable for opponents. Messi scored more goals in this season but his bigger contribution is from key passes and assists to other players.

I feel that Messi does not want to return to Barcelona after all of bad drama he received years ago and after the recent drama against Pique as well as Busquet. Therefore, if PSG want to resign a new contract with Messi, I believe he will be ready to sign it. I also believe that it would very likely to happen as it will be good for both Messi and PSG. They can resign a new contract which last 2 more years.

Also important, Messi will retire from his national team after the World Cup so that he will fully focus on his club for last years of his career.

Messi is going to have an impressive season. Having scored and assisted twice in the Champions League, Lionel Messi is now the oldest player ever to do so. After seeing his celebration, it would be right to say he is the happiest man in this season. For the team's sake and his own, he should continue. Both parties will benefit from this arrangement. Furthermore, I think they're playing better together now than last year. It's evident in their play. Despite their differences, they continue to help each other. There is no stopping them now, they are heading in the right direction. It is likely that they will win something valuable this season if they continue in this manner.

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[rahmad2nd]

This 3 defeats in a row saw them catapulted to 5th position now and of course this is not very good for those who are supposed to be the strongest challengers.
But in the mirror from before like Lille in several seasons ago, actually things like this can still be predicted because instead of underestimating but sometimes teams that are predicted to be PSG's competitors in the end they always give up on their own.

Marseille's defeat did not escape some of their core players who suffered injuries, of course an unfavorable result for Igor Tudor. as a result, Marseille had to experience three of their defeats in Ligeu 1 and they had to be willing to drop to 5th place. It was difficult for them to remain consistent throughout the matches this season in all competitions, which incidentally they were quite tired with a very busy schedule.

If I notice that Marseille is indeed difficult to stay consistent from season to season, because they always end the season in a very different position. As happened in the previous four seasons, where Marseille always got bad results after previously successfully ending the season in second place and playing in the Champions League.
If that happens again this season, then surely Marseille cannot regain a place in the Champions League zone, but it would still be good if Marseille can still finish for the Europa League zone. Due to a worse scenario Marseille cannot end the season for next season's European zone tournament.

But basically Marseille could still get a point with a draw but it looks like Marseille don't have enough luck, because when Marseille against a strong team the end result is not with a big score. So yes, Marseille should be better at least for a draw, because then the position will be fine in the standings but the competition will still not be easy.

Marseille, do not have second-tier players commensurate with their core players. plus at this time, their focus is more on the Champions League match which incidentally has the second rank with 6 points.
Thursday, Marsielle will play away to Deutsche Bank Park, home to Frankfurt. let's see, whether Marseille will win this match.

Against Eintracht Frankfurt is a tough task for Marseille because even, Marseille in the previous home match also lost by Eintracht Frankfurt. Moreover, Eintracht Frankfurt are currently at the bottom of the standings with 4 points, and Eintracht Frankfurt are only 3 points behind leaders Tottenham. That means, Eintracht Frankfurt in the home match this time will not provide a chance for Marseille to hold it.

Because if Eintracht Frankfurt can win away and beat Marseille in the previous match, then of course mathematically Eintracht Frankfurt will also be able to win at home to beat Marseille. Because this is a big chance for Eintracht Frankfurt to overtake them and even, head to head Marseille really can't beat Eintracht Frankfurt at all.

actually, we can review why Marseille lost at home to Frankfurt.
however, it seems that it is not too interesting for us to review. and in this match, I believe the real burden is on the home team, Frankfurt. because after all they are in the bottom zone.

as we know, they can only get 4 points from four games. heavy burden, for them to fight to win this battle. as well as Marseille, at least they are in second place.
Igor Tudor knows that Sporting Lisbon will not be easy to beat Tottenham, moreover, Tottenham play as the host.
at least, Igor tudor will maximize his team to win the fight. and my estimation, Marseille, will win because the odds are pretty good.  however, we will see the results later.

for Ligue 1, I've explained why they underperform. however, I am still optimistic that Marseille can finish in the top four.

[Distraction]

Maybe Marseille are far away from the leader and they won't be able to stay in the title fight most probably. It is already a gap like nine points with PSG in the end.

On the other hand, this doesn't mean of course that they can't even qualify for the Champions League. Big teams have this kind of hard times in some part of a season. Marseille have had this before the first half of the season. As long as they start pulling themselves together soon there is no problem. They still have a long season ahead of them to rise in the standings once again. I still see them as the biggest contender for the second position honestly. Teams like Lorient and Lens wouldn't maintain a good form forever. In addition to that I think Marseille are generally more reliable than the other big teams of the league (except PSG of course  ).

[Bobrox]

man, you cannot compare Ligue 1 and Champions league, in any way

it is easy to dominate in Ligue 1, first because it is season long, so each mistake can be outdone later on, and quality is far lower than CL, and in Champions league one game can decide everything, they will pass group stage, but they lack quality and mental strength to reach final stages against tough competitors, like Real, City or Bayern

Not enough competitive compare between Ligue 1 and Champion League because PSG almost every season dominance with Ligue 1 tittle but difficult to get Champion League tittle except latest achievement lead until final stage at season 2020.

Last two season Champion League most difficult faced by PSG after beating by Real Madrid at 16 round last edition time, seems with impressive performance on group stage and PSG should finish at 1st standing on group stage have chance to get easy team on 16 round. I think still with strength mentality team will lead to final stage like Real Madrid, Liverpool and Bayern Munich seems are favorite team have chance lead until final stage. I don't think with PSG favorite can lead until final stage at Champion League in this season.

[hahay]

This 3 defeats in a row saw them catapulted to 5th position now and of course this is not very good for those who are supposed to be the strongest challengers.
But in the mirror from before like Lille in several seasons ago, actually things like this can still be predicted because instead of underestimating but sometimes teams that are predicted to be PSG's competitors in the end they always give up on their own.

Marseille's defeat did not escape some of their core players who suffered injuries, of course an unfavorable result for Igor Tudor. as a result, Marseille had to experience three of their defeats in Ligeu 1 and they had to be willing to drop to 5th place. It was difficult for them to remain consistent throughout the matches this season in all competitions, which incidentally they were quite tired with a very busy schedule.

If I notice that Marseille is indeed difficult to stay consistent from season to season, because they always end the season in a very different position. As happened in the previous four seasons, where Marseille always got bad results after previously successfully ending the season in second place and playing in the Champions League.
If that happens again this season, then surely Marseille cannot regain a place in the Champions League zone, but it would still be good if Marseille can still finish for the Europa League zone. Due to a worse scenario Marseille cannot end the season for next season's European zone tournament.

But basically Marseille could still get a point with a draw but it looks like Marseille don't have enough luck, because when Marseille against a strong team the end result is not with a big score. So yes, Marseille should be better at least for a draw, because then the position will be fine in the standings but the competition will still not be easy.

Marseille, do not have second-tier players commensurate with their core players. plus at this time, their focus is more on the Champions League match which incidentally has the second rank with 6 points.
Thursday, Marsielle will play away to Deutsche Bank Park, home to Frankfurt. let's see, whether Marseille will win this match.

Against Eintracht Frankfurt is a tough task for Marseille because even, Marseille in the previous home match also lost by Eintracht Frankfurt. Moreover, Eintracht Frankfurt are currently at the bottom of the standings with 4 points, and Eintracht Frankfurt are only 3 points behind leaders Tottenham. That means, Eintracht Frankfurt in the home match this time will not provide a chance for Marseille to hold it.

Because if Eintracht Frankfurt can win away and beat Marseille in the previous match, then of course mathematically Eintracht Frankfurt will also be able to win at home to beat Marseille. Because this is a big chance for Eintracht Frankfurt to overtake them and even, head to head Marseille really can't beat Eintracht Frankfurt at all.

actually, we can review why Marseille lost at home to Frankfurt.
however, it seems that it is not too interesting for us to review. and in this match, I believe the real burden is on the home team, Frankfurt. because after all they are in the bottom zone.

as we know, they can only get 4 points from four games. heavy burden, for them to fight to win this battle. as well as Marseille, at least they are in second place.
Igor Tudor knows that Sporting Lisbon will not be easy to beat Tottenham, moreover, Tottenham play as the host.
at least, Igor tudor will maximize his team to win the fight. and my estimation, Marseille, will win because the odds are pretty good.  however, we will see the results later.

In fact in the first match when Marseille played at home and lost 0-1 by Eintracht Frankfurt, the result was that Eintracht Frankfurt could win at half time because the goal was created in the 43rd minute. Even though Merseille had been left behind by a score of 0-1 at half time, in reality Marseille did not could develop the game and even in the second half Eintracht Frankfurt were still able to dominate the match.

Even though Eintracht Frankfurt are currently bottom in Group D and I have said it before, even Eintracht Frankfurt can still overtake to the top because Eintracht Frankfurt only has a 3 point gap with Tottenham. Therefore, Eintracht Frankfurt will certainly be more motivated to keep winning and beat Marseille for the second time at this moment, while continuing the good trend of Eintracht Frankfurt in the head to head unbeaten by Marseille.

for Ligue 1, I've explained why they underperform. however, I am still optimistic that Marseille can finish in the top four.

Well, regarding Marseille's performance in Ligue 1 also that Marseille is difficult to stay consistent which means, even though in the previous season Marseille managed to finish in second place but Marseille has a difficult habit of repeating it again in the next season (this season). There are two possibilities for Marseille this season, to finish in the top five at least to get tickets for the european tournament or not at all.

Since Ligue 1 only has three tickets to the Champions League and even then, only the top two teams are confirmed to play in the Champions League as one more place will decide through the qualifying rounds. Because if you say Marseille can finish in the top four, in reality it doesn't guarantee Marseille for the Champions League ticket, but only for the Europa League ticket and also the Europa Conference League if it finishes in fifth place.

[Fesatmas]

Maybe Marseille are far away from the leader and they won't be able to stay in the title fight most probably. It is already a gap like nine points with PSG in the end.

On the other hand, this doesn't mean of course that they can't even qualify for the Champions League. Big teams have this kind of hard times in some part of a season. Marseille have had this before the first half of the season. As long as they start pulling themselves together soon there is no problem. They still have a long season ahead of them to rise in the standings once again. I still see them as the biggest contender for the second position honestly. Teams like Lorient and Lens wouldn't maintain a good form forever. In addition to that I think Marseille are generally more reliable than the other big teams of the league (except PSG of course  ).

Marseille could not maintain their slick appearance and had to be knocked out of the top 4. The three defeats they received were consecutive defeats until the last week. It's a shame when they became the favorite team to compete with Paris Saint Germain instead they couldn't play consistently even I saw them getting worse. Indeed, their respective seasons are very long for them to do something, but if they don't improve quickly then their chances will be slimming down.

[CLS63]

While there is some conversation about Messi's future at PSG I'd also like to add some information about it.

It is claimed that PSG have already offered a one-year extension to Messi. They want to act quick and do their best to keep Messi in the team. Because since he adapted to PSG's system he has been one of the biggest contributors of the team with not only goals but also assists. PSG don't want to see the trio disbanding by the end of this season. They are already worried about Mbappe's future at the team. If Mbappe and Messi both leaves I assume Neymar also wouldn't like to stay anymore. This would change the destiny of the team completely for certain. 

[bekti3]

In fact in the first match when Marseille played at home and lost 0-1 by Eintracht Frankfurt, the result was that Eintracht Frankfurt could win at half time because the goal was created in the 43rd minute. Even though Merseille had been left behind by a score of 0-1 at half time, in reality Marseille did not could develop the game and even in the second half Eintracht Frankfurt were still able to dominate the match.

Even though Eintracht Frankfurt are currently bottom in Group D and I have said it before, even Eintracht Frankfurt can still overtake to the top because Eintracht Frankfurt only has a 3 point gap with Tottenham. Therefore, Eintracht Frankfurt will certainly be more motivated to keep winning and beat Marseille for the second time at this moment, while continuing the good trend of Eintracht Frankfurt in the head to head unbeaten by Marseille.

At the moment it can be said as a decision for Frankfurt whether they will only be at the bottom or can compete again because indeed this can be a good thing when they can win and have a chance to go straight to the top position.
At the moment Marseille's performance is not very good in my opinion and this can be seen from some of their matches in Ligue 1 now they have to lose again and again.

[Furious 7]

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PSG is very easy to beat their opponents, especially in Ligue 1 if Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are well connected. The same situation must be applied to Galtier in the Champions League, team cohesiveness and supported by the best performances can take PSG to go further in the Champions League.

man, you cannot compare Ligue 1 and Champions league, in any way

it is easy to dominate in Ligue 1, first because it is season long, so each mistake can be outdone later on, and quality is far lower than CL, and in Champions league one game can decide everything, they will pass group stage, but they lack quality and mental strength to reach final stages against tough competitors, like Real, City or Bayern

In this case I agree. In any case, things like this cannot be compared because it is very far in comparison when looking at Ligue 1 and the Champions League.
PSG will clearly dominate in Ligue 1 especially seeing the condition of the players they have now actually at the top of Ligue 1 is one of the easy things for them to do because looking at the conditions of other clubs it is quite clear what the difference is so it is difficult for other clubs to be able to do that. compete. But for the Champions League it's definitely not that simple because this is the place where kings compete.

[RealMalatesta]

man, you cannot compare Ligue 1 and Champions league, in any way

it is easy to dominate in Ligue 1, first because it is season long, so each mistake can be outdone later on, and quality is far lower than CL, and in Champions league one game can decide everything, they will pass group stage, but they lack quality and mental strength to reach final stages against tough competitors, like Real, City or Bayern

Not enough competitive compare between Ligue 1 and Champion League because PSG almost every season dominance with Ligue 1 tittle but difficult to get Champion League tittle except latest achievement lead until final stage at season 2020.

Last two season Champion League most difficult faced by PSG after beating by Real Madrid at 16 round last edition time, seems with impressive performance on group stage and PSG should finish at 1st standing on group stage have chance to get easy team on 16 round. I think still with strength mentality team will lead to final stage like Real Madrid, Liverpool and Bayern Munich seems are favorite team have chance lead until final stage. I don't think with PSG favorite can lead until final stage at Champion League in this season.

I think there is a bit of difference based on having just 2 games to survive versus having a whole season. If you put all 32 teams in the group stages of UCL, and make them play with each other twice, which would be 64 games, then you will see that PSG may end up at the top.

Because, they could have a few loss but the overall would be good. But when you tell them to either win or go home, they may not be that great. Look at last year, they almost won and then in span if 2 minutes they lost. This is why it is very hard in a tournament structure and not so hard in a league structure. So the difference is not just ligue 1 vs ucl, it’s also cup vs league situation as well.

[Jody.Drummer]

While there is some conversation about Messi's future at PSG I'd also like to add some information about it.

It is claimed that PSG have already offered a one-year extension to Messi. They want to act quick and do their best to keep Messi in the team. Because since he adapted to PSG's system he has been one of the biggest contributors of the team with not only goals but also assists. PSG don't want to see the trio disbanding by the end of this season. They are already worried about Mbappe's future at the team. If Mbappe and Messi both leaves I assume Neymar also wouldn't like to stay anymore. This would change the destiny of the team completely for certain. 

As we know that Paris Saint Germain is very ambitious to be able to have star players in their squad. And now they will definitely do everything possible to keep the star players who are now in the squad as part of them. They will not care how much money they will spend to keep the players from leaving. But of course it will be the decision of their players to stay or choose to leave and find a new club.
Lionel Messi has been tipped to return to the club he came from, and chances are he will. We'll wait and see.

[safari88]

The competition is no longer an honor for the team from Paris. They only want one thing and that is to win the Champions League. It could be interesting for 2nd place. Incidentally, PSG has started to play football a lot better since there is a new coach. He has things in order and Psg seems to be better now than ever before.

[herurist]

The competition is no longer an honor for the team from Paris. They only want one thing and that is to win the Champions League. It could be interesting for 2nd place. Incidentally, PSG has started to play football a lot better since there is a new coach. He has things in order and Psg seems to be better now than ever before.

This has become a habit for them so there needs to be another target, but in this case we know that they still can't do it.
There are several hindering factors in this case, especially since they are too comfortable being and playing in Ligue 1 so it is certain that it will be a bit difficult because they have to face different opponents whose quality is of course very different.

[blue Snow]

As we know that Paris Saint Germain is very ambitious to be able to have star players in their squad. And now they will definitely do everything possible to keep the star players who are now in the squad as part of them. They will not care how much money they will spend to keep the players from leaving. But of course it will be the decision of their players to stay or choose to leave and find a new club.
Lionel Messi has been tipped to return to the club he came from, and chances are he will. We'll wait and see.

After getting a big won a day ago, the owner thinking hard to hold the squad, especially the trio MNM (Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe) on PSG maybe for the next 2-3 years. Maybe this is the strategy for business also while the club created the achievement, and this is to make the target change to how to get a double winner for this session. And Messi, Many speculations to him being back, but I thing it's not for this year, may be possible for the next session or if he were able to get in what the owner's target want.

[Awaklara]

As we know that Paris Saint Germain is very ambitious to be able to have star players in their squad. And now they will definitely do everything possible to keep the star players who are now in the squad as part of them. They will not care how much money they will spend to keep the players from leaving. But of course it will be the decision of their players to stay or choose to leave and find a new club.
Lionel Messi has been tipped to return to the club he came from, and chances are he will. We'll wait and see.

After getting a big won a day ago, the owner thinking hard to hold the squad, especially the trio MNM (Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe) on PSG maybe for the next 2-3 years. Maybe this is the strategy for business also while the club created the achievement, and this is to make the target change to how to get a double winner for this session. And Messi, Many speculations to him being back, but I thing it's not for this year, may be possible for the next session or if he were able to get in what the owner's target want.

if the PSG President will keep the trio they have in the main squad. it means that the ambitions and targets given have not been achieved. they are still trusted to bring PSG to glory in Europe.
Messi is a great player, but given his age, I don't think that would be a goal for the business. Neymar and Mbappe may still be valuable assets for PSG. Mbappe is still very young and has a good game.

[Juggy777]

As we know that Paris Saint Germain is very ambitious to be able to have star players in their squad. And now they will definitely do everything possible to keep the star players who are now in the squad as part of them. They will not care how much money they will spend to keep the players from leaving. But of course it will be the decision of their players to stay or choose to leave and find a new club.
Lionel Messi has been tipped to return to the club he came from, and chances are he will. We'll wait and see.

After getting a big won a day ago, the owner thinking hard to hold the squad, especially the trio MNM (Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe) on PSG maybe for the next 2-3 years. Maybe this is the strategy for business also while the club created the achievement, and this is to make the target change to how to get a double winner for this session. And Messi, Many speculations to him being back, but I thing it's not for this year, may be possible for the next session or if he were able to get in what the owner's target want.

if the PSG President will keep the trio they have in the main squad. it means that the ambitions and targets given have not been achieved. they are still trusted to bring PSG to glory in Europe.
Messi is a great player, but given his age, I don't think that would be a goal for the business. Neymar and Mbappe may still be valuable assets for PSG. Mbappe is still very young and has a good game.

@blue Snow I feel that Messi won’t leave PSG, because Barcelona won’t be able to afford him and PSG will offer him more wages ro stay hence he’ll continue to stay at least for a year and then return to Barcelona just before he retires. Furthermore Mbappe is being over paid and many in PSG board room too are feeling that, hence if a offer comes in for him then they’ll probably consider letting him go and then use that money to reinvest in the squad.

[Razmirraz]

Snip.

PSG's target is to win the UCL and they will continue to make every effort to achieve that with the amount of money they have.
for now the PSG squad is very qualified to achieve this target, they have the MNM trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe who are of very good quality even they are the best strikers in the world today and also have several other star players in all positions.
but if this target is not achieved this season or next it is not impossible that there will be a major overhaul at the PSG club, they have a lot of money and they can do anything to improve their squad.

The Ligue 1 trophy is not too special anymore for PSG because they can win the domestic league almost every year, it is natural for PSG to target winning the UCL this season because they have never won the UCL trophy before. No one doubts the squad that PSG currently has, the lineup of star players is expected to be able to solve the mystery that has been happening to PSG due to always having difficulty winning the UCL. PSG's journey is still very smooth in Ligue 1 and UCL, Galtier must not make mistakes in the Champions League if he wants to be in the Final. Defeat in Ligue 1 can still be redeemed in another match, while in the UCL there can be no words of defeat if PSG want to get a trophy.

[zuzie]

The competition is no longer an honor for the team from Paris. They only want one thing and that is to win the Champions League. It could be interesting for 2nd place. Incidentally, PSG has started to play football a lot better since there is a new coach. He has things in order and Psg seems to be better now than ever before.

Mauricio Pochettino's failure in the Champions League last season give an important lesson for the Paris Saint-Germain team to improve the main squad, including in the coach chair.
Finish in the round of 16 is Paris Saint-Germain's worst achievement since the last two seasons
This failure provide an opportunity for Christophe Galtier as a new coach, we will soon see Galtier's quality in controlling PSG, especially in the Champions League

[rahmad2nd]

As we know that Paris Saint Germain is very ambitious to be able to have star players in their squad. And now they will definitely do everything possible to keep the star players who are now in the squad as part of them. They will not care how much money they will spend to keep the players from leaving. But of course it will be the decision of their players to stay or choose to leave and find a new club.
Lionel Messi has been tipped to return to the club he came from, and chances are he will. We'll wait and see.

After getting a big won a day ago, the owner thinking hard to hold the squad, especially the trio MNM (Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe) on PSG maybe for the next 2-3 years. Maybe this is the strategy for business also while the club created the achievement, and this is to make the target change to how to get a double winner for this session. And Messi, Many speculations to him being back, but I thing it's not for this year, may be possible for the next session or if he were able to get in what the owner's target want.

On several occasions, Messi has stated. he has no intention of extending his service with PSG once his contract expires in 2022/2023. so Barcelona does not need to spend a budget as a dowry to bring him from PSG.
after all, Messi doesn't really care about the salary offered by the PSG president even though it is fantastic. he, already has everything, what he needs is two trophies at once as a service with PSG.

As for Mbappe, as we know, almost every week there are rumors linking Mbappe's move from PSG and always make headlines in the sports media. however, it looks like he will stay with PSG especially if his salary is increased.
one Neymar, since last summer's transfer window. he, always linked in the list of names in the transfer market, his whereabouts at PSG for next season is still gray.

[maju69]

The competition is no longer an honor for the team from Paris. They only want one thing and that is to win the Champions League. It could be interesting for 2nd place. Incidentally, PSG has started to play football a lot better since there is a new coach. He has things in order and Psg seems to be better now than ever before.

Mauricio Pochettino's failure in the Champions League last season give an important lesson for the Paris Saint-Germain team to improve the main squad, including in the coach chair.
Finish in the round of 16 is Paris Saint-Germain's worst achievement since the last two seasons
This failure provide an opportunity for Christophe Galtier as a new coach, we will soon see Galtier's quality in controlling PSG, especially in the Champions League

Yes, their move to change coaches is expected to bring higher achievements. Actually we don't need to talk about their domestic league because on paper and anyone who sees them will have the belief that they are champions in Ligue 1. What they need to prove is in the Champions League because they have never felt lifting that prestigious trophy. But honestly I still have my doubts over them in this Champions League.