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October 19, 2022, 08:22:43 PM
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Marseille's 2 matches were not so good and should be 2 defeats in a row, it kept them away from Paris Saint Germain in the standings. This week they also got a tough opponent, Lens. Perched one level above Marseille Lens is a difficult opponent for Marseille. If you look at the statistics, these two teams are not much different in terms of strength, maybe it will also be a match that ends with sharing points from each team. If that really happened then Marseille would be further away from the leaders.
Without any doubt Marseille is second-best club in French League, but their recent form give them setback with this right now they are at fourth now in next round they are going to host third spot team Lens which is also doing good, but their away form is not good, so this can give them good fight back for their spot and back on good run.

Their Champions League form is also now on good run with this they have chance to go through into next round but for this they have to beat Frankfurt in their next game which is going to play in Germany recently they have done good job against sporting and won their both matches which is surely a good from them now if they are able to beat Frankfurt then surely they can do much better.

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October 19, 2022, 10:02:55 PM
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It seems like Mbappe won't be leaving the team anytime soon. I mean at least there will be no transfer in January as he stated it that way himself recently. It would have been really interesting if Mbappe decided to leave the team in the middle of the season suddenly. Because he must be still aiming to win the Champions League title with PSG before leaving in the future. Maybe he won't leave even in the summer in case they get very close to achieving the title this season.

I don't include the probability of winning the title for that because I believe that he would definitely leave then. Because he would already achieve his biggest target with the team in the end. If he decides to leave I'm really confident that Real Madrid would be on the line to sign him before any other team.
I think Mbappe's situation is still very complicated. I don't think they can unite with Real Madrid, if they leave PSG, I think they will go to the Premier League. I think he has less chance of playing in Spain.
There are already minor problems with both the team and the fans. I'm still wondering how it can last until the end of this season. During the Ballon d'Or ceremony, we saw the reaction of the fans to Mbappe, which is not very pleasant
If he really goes to premier league, we are going to see a whole another series of ronaldo vs messi type of deal in our life time and that would be awesome. Back in the day Ronaldo and Messi played in the same league for many seasons, and that gave us a lot of competition, if Mbappe leaves for any team in premier league, that would mean Haaland and Mbappe would be playing against each other and that would be a great thing as well.

In this situation, Haaland has Pep as well, which is a good coincidence for the same reasons, but Mbappe won't have mourinho I assume. It is going to be a great transfer if it happens, but I still expect it to not happen to be fair.

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October 20, 2022, 03:18:17 AM
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If he really goes to premier league, we are going to see a whole another series of ronaldo vs messi type of deal in our life time and that would be awesome. Back in the day Ronaldo and Messi played in the same league for many seasons, and that gave us a lot of competition, if Mbappe leaves for any team in premier league, that would mean Haaland and Mbappe would be playing against each other and that would be a great thing as well.
Mbappe does not have to move to Premier League to make another dual competition with Haaland. Of course it would be more interesting if they play in a same league but it is still fine if they play at different leagues. They can compete each other with total goals, assists, titles in their national leagues, Champions League and Ballon D'or.

With Mbappe bad behaviour in last several months, I see Haaland is taking a lead and if Mbappe continues like this, he will lose against Haaland. His playing style relies so much on his speed and if he wastes his young ages, he will never be able to catch Haaland.

We saw how Gareth Bale lost his best form and performance just after a few injuries. I don't expect injuries for Mbappe because watching him is interesting but injuries in sports are unavoidable and Mbappe simply is not excluded from injuries.

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In this situation, Haaland has Pep as well, which is a good coincidence for the same reasons, but Mbappe won't have mourinho I assume. It is going to be a great transfer if it happens, but I still expect it to not happen to be fair.
Mbappe does not want to be managed by Mourinho because Mourinho does not support such undisciplined and unprofessional responses like Mbappe usually does. Mbappe can join Chelsea that is a club usually support players rather than their coaches.

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October 20, 2022, 06:13:46 AM
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It seems like Mbappe won't be leaving the team anytime soon. I mean at least there will be no transfer in January as he stated it that way himself recently. It would have been really interesting if Mbappe decided to leave the team in the middle of the season suddenly. Because he must be still aiming to win the Champions League title with PSG before leaving in the future. Maybe he won't leave even in the summer in case they get very close to achieving the title this season.

I don't include the probability of winning the title for that because I believe that he would definitely leave then. Because he would already achieve his biggest target with the team in the end. If he decides to leave I'm really confident that Real Madrid would be on the line to sign him before any other team.

I think Mbappe's situation is still very complicated. I don't think they can unite with Real Madrid, if they leave PSG, I think they will go to the Premier League. I think he has less chance of playing in Spain.
There are already minor problems with both the team and the fans. I'm still wondering how it can last until the end of this season. During the Ballon d'Or ceremony, we saw the reaction of the fans to Mbappe, which is not very pleasant
Forget about mbappe and this time barcelona's fans was making another stupid movement by taking legal action for PSG. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/18/barcelona-fans-take-legal-action-over-lionel-messis-transfer-to-psg
It's clear if mbappe will not be moving from PSG at least until next transfer season. Im sure mbappe may find its new club next transfer season. The situation becomes even worst since PSG getting sued by barcelona fans caused by messi.
WTF was wrong with barcelona's fan.

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October 20, 2022, 09:38:19 AM
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No team has never made a mistake, that's natural.

PSG always try season after season to win the Champions League title, but it seems their efforts have not yielded the results the club wanted. this season, in addition to changing coaches, PSG brought in several players to strengthen in defense and add attacking midfielders. the results are quite satisfactory, until now they are unbeaten in all competitions.

as well as Real Madrid, they are still mighty by not tasting defeat this season.
PSG's chances in the Champions League are of course very big, they have three deadly strikers. whoever their opponent later in the next phase, will not play open. meaning, will prefer to strengthen the defense line. but can they get that title, let time will tell.
It wouldn't be easy to make a guess, but it really depended on who would be his opponent in the next round. The knockout system will usually see big teams meet each other, it will be detrimental to one team because only one team will qualify. I think PSG will be smooth to the last 8 if the opponent is not too strong, and so on until the final. But not hard to believe.

Some of the top teams in my opinion are PSG, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Liverpool. I think one of them will make it to the final. For Ligue 1, PSG is without a doubt.

If guessing was easy, you and I would always win every bet. but in fact, we can only assume and analyze and then conclude.

true, it depends on who will be the opponent later especially in the knockout stage phase. we will see, who is more consistent and luckier and who will win the match.
I will not assume that PSG will be able to pass smoothly to the last 8, for me personally it all depends on how they play the match later. all the candidates mentioned here, also have the potential to topple PSG if they have a chance to meet in the knockout round later. and vice versa, PSG have a great chance to overthrow the team we mentioned in this post. this is an important gamble for them.

for Ligue 1, it looks like we're not bothering to argue about it.

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October 20, 2022, 09:48:52 AM
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Now there are new rumours such as Mbappe has asked PSG board about selling Neymar. Because he thinks that Neymar has some discipline problems at the club currently.

Honestly Mbappe wasn't seeming like he was unhappy with Neymar's presence in their last league game. We even watched their cooperation many times in the game and the goal even came thanks to these players. I really can't keep up with this honestly. Because one day we hear this kind of rumours and the other day Mbappe refutes them by making a statement. I don't feel like these are only about rumours now. There must be something going on really wrong now and we will find out at the end of the season most probably.

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October 20, 2022, 09:57:23 AM
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Now there are new rumours such as Mbappe has asked PSG board about selling Neymar. Because he thinks that Neymar has some discipline problems at the club currently.
I agree to say Neymar was very bad with discipline in past seasons but disagree with anyone who accuses it in this season. Neymar has changed at least since beginning of season and he has still continued it until now. He wanted to show the world that he can play better than Mbappe and also want to reserve his best fitness for the World Cup. Neymar knows that it would be a last World Cup he can play with best body. He is no longer young and maybe he will not be chosen in the World Cup 2026.

And if I have to choose a player who is bad with discipline in PSG this season, it would be Mbappe.

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Honestly Mbappe wasn't seeming like he was unhappy with Neymar's presence in their last league game. We even watched their cooperation many times in the game and the goal even came thanks to these players. I really can't keep up with this honestly. Because one day we hear this kind of rumours and the other day Mbappe refutes them by making a statement. I don't feel like these are only about rumours now. There must be something going on really wrong now and we will find out at the end of the season most probably.
I wish Mbappe and PSG the best and wish they to win Champions League this season. This will make them becoming a stronger club and that is good for Champions League in general.

With rejection from Real Madrid and Florentino Perez, I think Mbappe realizes that he is making things worse for himself, in PSG and in potential destinations.

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@hahay I believe that these two are key factors why PSG player’s are not performing that well: 1) the new coach has failed to unite this egoistic squad, 2) Mbappe status is causing discontent among the squad and the solution is to sell him and reinvest in other player or player’s. Furthermore there’s also talks of Messi leaving which has further distracted the squad, and if PSG wants to achieve success this season then it needs to put an end to Messi’s exit rumours.
PSG has all the potential to lift the UEFA Champions League this season but its greatest obstacle would be unresolved internal rifts. Kylian Mbappe is the center of all these challenges. He is gradually losing the support of the fans and the management. There are reports that he was booed by the fans during the Ballon d'Or ceremony. And there are also speculations that the club is willing to sell him, at the right price. He has claimed that he has no intention of leaving the club in the January transfer window. But I think PSG would achieve more without him because he is really causing division in the dressing room.
The news that Messi wants to leave is not a surprise to me. The club gave Mbappe so much privilege that he could conveniently disrespect one of the greatest players that ever existed. Yes, Mbappe has a glorious football future, but his ill behavior and selfishness can make him end like a player like Mario Balotelli.    

It is very clear to me that you are right. I foresaw this when Mbappe was given administrative authority to prevent him from moving to Real Madrid. There is no doubt that this is one of the most prominent examples of the money game that is now spoiling the game of football. Taking a look at the names in PSG's squad, you would have thought that they should have been the number one team in the world by a wide margin based on their roster.

I can barely see respect among the players because there is discontent among the squad, and internal clashes have caused them to play very poorly, so I don't expect them to do well. It is outrageous that Mbappe stopped his run in a counterattack the other day when his teammate did not pass to him. This is inexcusable. In addition to that, rumors are circulating that Messi may be leaving at the end of the season, which totally makes sense, he deserves better treatment than what he is getting now.

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October 20, 2022, 12:44:09 PM
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Now there are new rumours such as Mbappe has asked PSG board about selling Neymar. Because he thinks that Neymar has some discipline problems at the club currently.

It's difficult because Neymar plays an important role for PSG's winger position
At least to release or sell Neymar, Paris Saint-Germain need to first get a potential player who can play a role like Neymar did, of course it will be difficult to find a player like him right.
For this "rumor" I would say PSG will never be free from negative rumors that have the potential to divide the team like that, because PSG have big names and every news about Paris Saint-Germain has an appeal to read. That's one of the reasons why similar rumors will continue to exist

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October 20, 2022, 02:05:31 PM
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@hahay I believe that these two are key factors why PSG player’s are not performing that well: 1) the new coach has failed to unite this egoistic squad, 2) Mbappe status is causing discontent among the squad and the solution is to sell him and reinvest in other player or player’s. Furthermore there’s also talks of Messi leaving which has further distracted the squad, and if PSG wants to achieve success this season then it needs to put an end to Messi’s exit rumours.
This is a very contradictory suggestion due to the fact that Christophe Galtier was able to unite the PSG squad, if you realized beforehand that there was a problem with Mbappe and Neymar where they were arguing about penalty kicks. But this problem was quickly resolved and then even the two players were able to play well by providing beautiful assists for their goals, so I think PSG no longer have problems with their coach. Also about the privileges that Mbappe has is indeed a problem which is a pity because of course it will make this player difficult to control, but that has become part of their risk as well. But for his performance so far I think he is still fine and he is just a young boy who is still unstable and besides that, PSG are basically still okay for competition in Ligue 1 but to compete further in the Champions League I personally still doubt it.

There are many rumors circulating about Messi but for me, PSG can still do well without Messi even though Messi can still make a big contribution to the team. But for me, with his old age PSG should not expect Messi to stay longer because sooner or later his performance will also decline and may be prone to injury. Therefore, if they still have the ability to extend Messi's contract then they shouldn't have to worry. Because what they should prioritize is to find a replacement early on, because after all rejuvenation in the squad is more important and they can't expect older players to stay any longer.

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October 20, 2022, 03:15:09 PM
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Marseille's 2 matches were not so good and should be 2 defeats in a row, it kept them away from Paris Saint Germain in the standings. This week they also got a tough opponent, Lens. Perched one level above Marseille Lens is a difficult opponent for Marseille. If you look at the statistics, these two teams are not much different in terms of strength, maybe it will also be a match that ends with sharing points from each team. If that really happened then Marseille would be further away from the leaders.

After a wonderful start to the season Marseille's form has started to drop down recently. I can understand the PSG defeat actually because it was really hard for them to get even one point away against PSG. They still resisted PSG well by conceding only one goal despite the red card. However I couldn't understand how they lost to a much weaker team like Ajaccio in their match home.

These consecutive point losses can cause bigger problems to happen but we will see. The Lens match is pretty tough for them and I'd like to add another thing like they lost their last two home matches against Lens also. Therefore it is difficult to trust Marseille as much as betting on them. But I might go for BTTS as I think that it will happen most probably.
A red card after they conceded a goal which made it even more difficult for them because they had to continue to focus on defense.
On the other hand, the defeat against Ajaccio is actually a surprise and I find it difficult to predict them against Lens in the upcoming match because regardless of what currently Lens is still performing quite well even though now they are also not very consistent but looking at the last 5 matches of course Lens is still better.
This is another difficult thing for Marseille because indeed in this match they are definitely required to bring 3 points.

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October 20, 2022, 04:52:25 PM
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Now there are new rumours such as Mbappe has asked PSG board about selling Neymar. Because he thinks that Neymar has some discipline problems at the club currently.

Honestly Mbappe wasn't seeming like he was unhappy with Neymar's presence in their last league game. We even watched their cooperation many times in the game and the goal even came thanks to these players. I really can't keep up with this honestly. Because one day we hear this kind of rumours and the other day Mbappe refutes them by making a statement. I don't feel like these are only about rumours now. There must be something going on really wrong now and we will find out at the end of the season most probably.

The fact that Neymar has serious disciplinary problems was already known last season without any connection with the situation with Mbappe. But this season Neymar is super professional in the game at least and I don't see any reason to complain about him now. Maybe all these rumors are just another invention of journalists who combine previous news/issues to make clickbait headlines? In part, Mabppe himself is to blame for the fact that there are so many fictions around him - he himself behaved in this way. Around Haaland I don't see anything like that.

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People reacted way too early for Marseille being the same points as PSG at the start of the season, now the difference is already 6 points, and Lorient is closer to PSG than Marseille, that should be a good enough indicator that PSG is a team that is beyond all these talks, other teams could have good periods here and there, but they will end up losing eventually and they won't have the sustainable power to continue until the end of the season whereas PSG has that power to be this good without any change up until the end of the season and that matters a lot.

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October 20, 2022, 05:39:31 PM
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The fact that Neymar has serious disciplinary problems was already known last season without any connection with the situation with Mbappe. But this season Neymar is super professional in the game at least and I don't see any reason to complain about him now. Maybe all these rumors are just another invention of journalists who combine previous news/issues to make clickbait headlines? In part, Mabppe himself is to blame for the fact that there are so many fictions around him - he himself behaved in this way. Around Haaland I don't see anything like that.
Journalists sometimes just take advantage of the situation to get an advantage even though it's not the real situation. A lot of things have been debunked by the fact how bad the online media coverage continues to speculate about certain players, I don't fully believe it, but we can see it in their game.

The cooperation of the players, yes their cooperation when playing is good evidence to refute many rumors. I believe the conditions are a lot different as reported, this allows people to consume the wrong information.

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October 20, 2022, 05:57:10 PM
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People reacted way too early for Marseille being the same points as PSG at the start of the season, now the difference is already 6 points, and Lorient is closer to PSG than Marseille, that should be a good enough indicator that PSG is a team that is beyond all these talks, other teams could have good periods here and there, but they will end up losing eventually and they won't have the sustainable power to continue until the end of the season whereas PSG has that power to be this good without any change up until the end of the season and that matters a lot.

PSG will win the league title once again and will be 10+ points difference easily, I always said this, and I will keep saying it until the end.
Yes indeed Paris Saint Germain is that strong in Ligue 1 which makes the league boring because it does not display very tight competition. Honestly I am tired of seeing Paris Saint Germain always being champions for many years, I would like to see there is a new champion in Ligue 1. But it is very difficult to realize, Ligue 1 can be said to have belonged to Paris Saint Germain.

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Psg has a good squad. I don't understand why there is jealousy within the team. If there is no success despite spending so much money, it must be because of the problems within the team. I don't understand why Mbappe is like this. I don't think this is the time and place to be jealous when we can achieve success together. There is unnecessary discord within the team.

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What also stands out in the competition is the performance of Lyon, which is currently in 10th place in the competition. For years, regular participants in the Champions League competition, but that is all gone now. I don't even know if those days will come back. Trainer Bosz was fired, but he also lost his credit in the long run. The goal of all teams like Lyon will not be to become champions either, but Lyon is certainly one of the best 3-4 teams in France, and apparently that was not in it this year. PSG's lead on number 2 is only 3 points, I actually expected more.

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October 20, 2022, 07:00:44 PM
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Yes indeed Paris Saint Germain is that strong in Ligue 1 which makes the league boring because it does not display very tight competition. Honestly I am tired of seeing Paris Saint Germain always being champions for many years, I would like to see there is a new champion in Ligue 1. But it is very difficult to realize, Ligue 1 can be said to have belonged to Paris Saint Germain.
The same goes for Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, Real Madrid in Laliga and Manchester City in the Premier League. They are the most dominating team for the title every season, but the competition is still good among all the teams because they didn't win it absolutely without the sacrifice of money, energy and good strategy from the coach.

The team's success to reach the pinnacle of glory and maintain it is something that is difficult for most teams to have, but some of the teams I mentioned might be able to because of the quality of the players they have. PSG will always be like this if the owners are rich, unless there is a limit that requires them not to spend more than $50M a year buying star players.

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October 20, 2022, 07:35:18 PM
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As long as the speculated issues don't affect the performance of the players on the field, there isn't any problem. PSG just need their trio to focus on their games especially in very important matches for them. The Ligue 1 is in their hands as usual so there is no problem with that for now. However their main target is to win the Champions League and they can do this only by a strong mental. Concentration problems would push them to be eliminated very unexpectedly.

I hope that Mbappe doesn't cause the relationship with Neymar and Messi to be broken. Because Neymar - Messi duo don't seem like they aren't contented with playing beside Mbappe. Hence Mbappe should do the same. When they play in coherence there is no team they can't beat.

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October 20, 2022, 07:44:27 PM
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What also stands out in the competition is the performance of Lyon, which is currently in 10th place in the competition. For years, regular participants in the Champions League competition, but that is all gone now. I don't even know if those days will come back. Trainer Bosz was fired, but he also lost his credit in the long run. The goal of all teams like Lyon will not be to become champions either, but Lyon is certainly one of the best 3-4 teams in France, and apparently that was not in it this year. PSG's lead on number 2 is only 3 points, I actually expected more.
Lyon's performance is decreasing every year.
Their unstable condition makes Lyon inevitably have to continue to be in the middle table position.
It is difficult for them now to be able to play well with the condition of the players who are not too good and their playing style is easy to read.
Currently they are still in the top 10 and what's worse is that in the last 5 matches they have run, they have lost and only drawn 1.

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