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November 27, 2022, 03:47:06 AM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

Does Messi even remember those things, players are always willing to take new challenges and make new sacrifices. It is the club that takes revenge and not individuals.
I don't have high hopes for Messi, Mbappe and Neymar because I have seen where three of them crashed out in the same champions league.
If they really want to win, they have to work hard for it, big names don't play ball, it is hard work that plays it.

I don't think Messi has a problem
But the other too are not even hundred percent professionals
Why wouldn't work as a team to win the Champions League
One is egoistic because he has the world Cup already
The other   just don't know but he dribbles a lot

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November 27, 2022, 08:23:12 AM
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I don't think Messi has a problem
But the other too are not even hundred percent professionals
Why wouldn't work as a team to win the Champions League
One is egoistic because he has the world Cup already
The other   just don't know but he dribbles a lot
Try asking that question to those you see as selfish. Because Messi is never selfish and always wants to give his abilities for the team in all matches one hundred percent, but Messi also can't do much if he only moves alone to revive the team, while the others are only selfish by showing selfish attitudes. But I don't think that has anything to do with the world cup because when they are in the same team, they should forget about their own country's national team.

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November 27, 2022, 08:47:35 AM
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I don't think Messi has a problem
But the other too are not even hundred percent professionals
Why wouldn't work as a team to win the Champions League
One is egoistic because he has the world Cup already
The other   just don't know but he dribbles a lot
Try asking that question to those you see as selfish. Because Messi is never selfish and always wants to give his abilities for the team in all matches one hundred percent, but Messi also can't do much if he only moves alone to revive the team, while the others are only selfish by showing selfish attitudes. But I don't think that has anything to do with the world cup because when they are in the same team, they should forget about their own country's national team.

Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.

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November 27, 2022, 11:45:58 AM
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Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
Yes, you said something right when you said that Lionel Messi was widely supported by other players when he played at Barcelona. It's a different thing now when he plays for Paris Saint Germain. I saw that it was he who gave a lot of support to other players. Indeed, the age factor will change something different from his game when he was young and when he played as a senior.

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November 27, 2022, 02:45:34 PM
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Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.

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November 27, 2022, 03:42:05 PM
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But, one thing is surely if PSG unable to have any positive result from this season then surely we are going to have big changes in coming months in PSG even management can put this club on sell as we already have few in English Premier League, but this one could be really sad.

PSG's owner won't sell the club if they can't win the Champions League, they dominate Ligue 1, they can keep making money as they are currently doing, just don't sign very expensive players that in the long run they will have a lot of profit, that since the beginning it has always been a long-term business, and if the owner of the team wants to make a profit, he needs to keep the team as it is today and win the European leagues with that same team, without spending too much on signings. messi has brought profits and good results in the team, mbappe will probably have a more inflated ego when he returns from qatar than before leaving paris

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.

I won't bet on who will win, in a game between two great teams like these, I'd rather bet on BTTS or over 2.5 goals, or even bet that Bayern will score 2 goals, it seems to me to be less risky bets than betting on which team will win that one game, despite PSG not having a good record in the champions league, this season they have a new coach, they have a much better defense than the weak defense they had last season, that's why they have chances to beat bayern and bayern also has a good defensive performance in the champions league. so it would be possible to bet that PSG would not score many goals against bayern, it seems to me that it is also a good bet

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November 27, 2022, 03:58:08 PM
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Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
Yes, you said something right when you said that Lionel Messi was widely supported by other players when he played at Barcelona. It's a different thing now when he plays for Paris Saint Germain. I saw that it was he who gave a lot of support to other players. Indeed, the age factor will change something different from his game when he was young and when he played as a senior.
The age factor actually changes many things in the life of footballers, especially when  you have achieved many things like Ronaldo and Messi and you are old, you will need  to calm down and work for others. But it is still depending on individual differences. Like Ronaldo has refused to understand he is old and need to support young players but instead he still want to be in the news always like someone who is struggling to break through

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November 27, 2022, 05:41:14 PM
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Try asking that question to those you see as selfish. Because Messi is never selfish and always wants to give his abilities for the team in all matches one hundred percent, but Messi also can't do much if he only moves alone to revive the team, while the others are only selfish by showing selfish attitudes. But I don't think that has anything to do with the world cup because when they are in the same team, they should forget about their own country's national team.
Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
selfishness always comes from the most wanted players, young and in top form and mbappe is in that phase. I also always follow the news about Messi and when he was still at Barca, he experienced that too but for now, he has changed and no longer shows selfishness. what I see, what Messi has not been able to achieve at the moment is to bring Argentina to win the world cup and bring PSG to win the UCL.

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But, one thing is surely if PSG unable to have any positive result from this season then surely we are going to have big changes in coming months in PSG even management can put this club on sell as we already have few in English Premier League, but this one could be really sad.

PSG's owner won't sell the club if they can't win the Champions League, they dominate Ligue 1, they can keep making money as they are currently doing, just don't sign very expensive players that in the long run they will have a lot of profit, that since the beginning it has always been a long-term business, and if the owner of the team wants to make a profit, he needs to keep the team as it is today and win the European leagues with that same team, without spending too much on signings. messi has brought profits and good results in the team, mbappe will probably have a more inflated ego when he returns from qatar than before leaving paris

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.

I won't bet on who will win, in a game between two great teams like these, I'd rather bet on BTTS or over 2.5 goals, or even bet that Bayern will score 2 goals, it seems to me to be less risky bets than betting on which team will win that one game, despite PSG not having a good record in the champions league, this season they have a new coach, they have a much better defense than the weak defense they had last season, that's why they have chances to beat bayern and bayern also has a good defensive performance in the champions league. so it would be possible to bet that PSG would not score many goals against bayern, it seems to me that it is also a good bet
PSG have always been the best in Ligue 1 and hopefully will be. They have great players in their squad, which no other club in League 1 has. PSG is the only richest club in Ligue 1. So their players are very expensive. I am sure that this time PSG will win the League 1 title.

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If PSG does not win the Champions League title, I agree that a few things are about to change. There are a couple of significant players for PSG who will be departing the team and that is to be expected. In spite of the fact that the PSG have a very strong team, they can at times be very inconsistent when it comes to their performance. PSG needs to avoid those situations.
In addition, although all of the players are doing well individually, there does seem to be a lack of chemistry between a few of the players in the squad as a whole. As a result, a lot of problems can arise due to that. In the current season of League 1, Paris Saint-Germain is doing very well. We will have to wait and see if they are able to perform adequately in the Champions League.
I feel like there is an overreacting to UCL, it's not an easy cup to win and there shouldn't be a pressure on the players. In any case, Mbappe is very very young, he will still be playing football after Messi and Neymar retires, which means that we could see the owners building a whole team around him yet again and again, maybe get some other known players.

Like for example, everyone talks about Jude Bellingham going to premier league as an English player, what if PSG ends up paying him good money to go there? If they can build a team of players age 25 or under, to surround Mbappe with great talent, then even if they don't win now, they can win 5-6 years later with that roster.

Honestly, I do not think it is going to work well if they want to build a young team around Mbappé, because he is already feeling like he is the Prince Charming of the team. He also has authority over other players. So it is not going to work well because the other players will feel like they are not being treated equally. And meanwhile, Mbappe will keep disrespecting other players. If they actually build a team around him, I think The other players will suffer from an inferiority complex.

I think if they have to build a team around him, they should at least strip him of the power that they have given first. After all, he is a player, not someone in the authority.



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November 27, 2022, 07:02:02 PM
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Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
selfishness always comes from the most wanted players, young and in top form and mbappe is in that phase. I also always follow the news about Messi and when he was still at Barca, he experienced that too but for now, he has changed and no longer shows selfishness. what I see, what Messi has not been able to achieve at the moment is to bring Argentina to win the world cup and bring PSG to win the UCL.
Selfishness becomes a disease for young players. especially if the young player gets a star title and gets privileges that other players don't get. That can be said as the natural attitude of a player, if they don't overcome this then it will backfire on themselves. In other words, if they have high selfishness it will hinder their development.
As players, such an attitude should not exist in them or they should be able to suppress it so they don't show it. It is undeniable that a lot of negative narratives about Mbappe are the result of his own actions.
But slowly he was able to overcome this and that bodes well for him in the future. I hope he can really change his attitude which is detrimental to himself as well as detrimental to the club he defends.

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November 27, 2022, 07:06:51 PM
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Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.
This may be possible because the match at home will obviously be very different, especially with the full support of the supporters so that odds like this happen, but it seems that in this case the bookies are still not too sure because with odds like this it still makes them equal, right? On the other hand, betting on Bayern is definitely quite tempting with odds like this but I might also look at other opportunities in which both teams can score in this match.

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November 27, 2022, 07:23:59 PM
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But, one thing is surely if PSG unable to have any positive result from this season then surely we are going to have big changes in coming months in PSG even management can put this club on sell as we already have few in English Premier League, but this one could be really sad.
PSG's owner won't sell the club if they can't win the Champions League, they dominate Ligue 1, they can keep making money as they are currently doing, just don't sign very expensive players that in the long run they will have a lot of profit, that since the beginning it has always been a long-term business, and if the owner of the team wants to make a profit, he needs to keep the team as it is today and win the European leagues with that same team, without spending too much on signings. messi has brought profits and good results in the team, mbappe will probably have a more inflated ego when he returns from qatar than before leaving paris
Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?
The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.
I won't bet on who will win, in a game between two great teams like these, I'd rather bet on BTTS or over 2.5 goals, or even bet that Bayern will score 2 goals, it seems to me to be less risky bets than betting on which team will win that one game, despite PSG not having a good record in the champions league, this season they have a new coach, they have a much better defense than the weak defense they had last season, that's why they have chances to beat bayern and bayern also has a good defensive performance in the champions league. so it would be possible to bet that PSG would not score many goals against bayern, it seems to me that it is also a good bet
PSG have always been the best in Ligue 1 and hopefully will be. They have great players in their squad, which no other club in League 1 has. PSG is the only richest club in Ligue 1. So their players are very expensive. I am sure that this time PSG will win the League 1 title.

PSG's squad has plenty of star players. They have a lot of money, and so they can pick and choose the players they want and need. Also their forward trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are among the best players in the world. And this forward lineup is capable of breaking down any defense. And so PSG managed to maintain their dominance in Ligue 1.
I don't think PSG will make the same mistake as the 2020-21 season again. The Champions League title is definitely important to PSG. But they will also try their best for the Ligue 1 title. And I don't think PSG will face any obstacles to win the Ligue 1 title this season.

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November 27, 2022, 07:59:16 PM
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PSG's squad has plenty of star players. They have a lot of money, and so they can pick and choose the players they want and need. Also their forward trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are among the best players in the world. And this forward lineup is capable of breaking down any defense. And so PSG managed to maintain their dominance in Ligue 1.
I don't think PSG will make the same mistake as the 2020-21 season again. The Champions League title is definitely important to PSG. But they will also try their best for the Ligue 1 title. And I don't think PSG will face any obstacles to win the Ligue 1 title this season.
For League 1, PSG still dominates I'm not doubt them, because there are also no clubs that can compete with them in the league. PSG must to be more solid to win a trophy UCL, yes it is likely that PSG will not make mistakes like last season I really agree that, this season also PSG performance is very good. They are unbeaten in all competitions, I think the UCL final they can definitely get it, hopefully also they can take home a trophy.

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November 27, 2022, 08:21:03 PM
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It is interesting if we look at the statistics of the players from Ligue 1, where Paris Saint Germain players are at the top of the line in terms of scoring goals and also scoring assists. In the top scorer record while Mbappe leads with 12 goals, followed by Neymar with 11 goals, in 3rd place is Terrem Moffi from Lorient with 10 goals. Meanwhile, on the list of names for assist scorers, Messi was the top name with 10 assists, followed by Neymar with 9 assists. These 3 Paris Saint Germain players are in the top positions in Ligue 1 statistics. With this, there is no doubt that they are a team that really dominates in all respects, be it management, finances, players, and so on. It would be a shame if they couldn't become champions.

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Honestly, I do not think it is going to work well if they want to build a young team around Mbappé, because he is already feeling like he is the Prince Charming of the team. He also has authority over other players. So it is not going to work well because the other players will feel like they are not being treated equally. And meanwhile, Mbappe will keep disrespecting other players. If they actually build a team around him, I think The other players will suffer from an inferiority complex.

I think if they have to build a team around him, they should at least strip him of the power that they have given first. After all, he is a player, not someone in the authority.
I would assume any player at age 25 or less would be fine about it, because they would get in the team knowing that very well. Plus, that's literally what you have to do if you end up having a good PSG for at least another 10 seasons.

This is why I believe it will be fine, like when Ronaldo went there, did Benzema or kroos or modric caused any trouble? They just worked hard, grind, and they got what they want which was championships and titles, and even got 3 UCL in a row. So all in all if you build a young team around Mbappe, you could play well for at least another 10 seasons, and even after he leaves you could still be good (aka real after ronaldo left) so it should be fine.

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November 27, 2022, 09:42:42 PM
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This may be possible because the match at home will obviously be very different, especially with the full support of the supporters so that odds like this happen, but it seems that in this case the bookies are still not too sure because with odds like this it still makes them equal, right? On the other hand, betting on Bayern is definitely quite tempting with odds like this but I might also look at other opportunities in which both teams can score in this match.

Remember that SPG is not Barcelona, ​​which was easily beaten by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich must be wary of the strengths that Paris Saint-Germain has. because after all, PSG has the power to overthrow the big teams by having the MNM Trio. on several occasions, Nagelamnn has stated that Galtier's squad is a difficult enemy to beat. and in the first leg, PSG played as the home team.

IMO, it's an advantage for PSG to play at their own base to get full points. and if we refer to the odds given by the dealer, this match is a match that has equal strength. these two clubs, have the same level and have their respective advantages.  Nagelsmann will be more careful when facing PSG at the Parc des Princes later. these two teams have the same high probability, to overthrow each other and win the match later.

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November 27, 2022, 09:50:13 PM
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It is interesting if we look at the statistics of the players from Ligue 1, where Paris Saint Germain players are at the top of the line in terms of scoring goals and also scoring assists. In the top scorer record while Mbappe leads with 12 goals, followed by Neymar with 11 goals, in 3rd place is Terrem Moffi from Lorient with 10 goals. Meanwhile, on the list of names for assist scorers, Messi was the top name with 10 assists, followed by Neymar with 9 assists. These 3 Paris Saint Germain players are in the top positions in Ligue 1 statistics. With this, there is no doubt that they are a team that really dominates in all respects, be it management, finances, players, and so on. It would be a shame if they couldn't become champions.
It's not too strange about this because you can already guess what their condition will be like, especially with the quality of the players from other clubs who are actually very far away when compared to them, so something like this will definitely happen.
I personally feel in this case with the productivity they have in terms of goals, of course this will make a significant difference later.

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November 27, 2022, 09:59:06 PM
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It is interesting if we look at the statistics of the players from Ligue 1, where Paris Saint Germain players are at the top of the line in terms of scoring goals and also scoring assists. In the top scorer record while Mbappe leads with 12 goals, followed by Neymar with 11 goals, in 3rd place is Terrem Moffi from Lorient with 10 goals. Meanwhile, on the list of names for assist scorers, Messi was the top name with 10 assists, followed by Neymar with 9 assists. These 3 Paris Saint Germain players are in the top positions in Ligue 1 statistics. With this, there is no doubt that they are a team that really dominates in all respects, be it management, finances, players, and so on. It would be a shame if they couldn't become champions.
It's not too strange about this because you can already guess what their condition will be like, especially with the quality of the players from other clubs who are actually very far away when compared to them, so something like this will definitely happen.
I personally feel in this case with the productivity they have in terms of goals, of course this will make a significant difference later.

There is no doubt that the players are having a good time on the field. I would like to point out that the forward three, especially that group, are probably making the best attack at the moment. There is a problem, however, in that PSG has a bad track record when it comes to choking in the Champions League. So, I am not so confident that they will be able to perform well in the Champions League. However, I am confident that they will be able to perform well in the Ligue 1 if they work hard. Due to the fact that there is not much competition for them in any case.
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November 27, 2022, 10:54:38 PM
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There is a really great balance about the performances of the Messi - Mbappe - Neymar trio now. They all have showed really good performances by making important contributions with goals and assists. Maybe Mbappe was more selfish as for assists but he is the most scorer of the team currently on one hand.

The only thing PSG need is to see them showing the same ambition in the Champions League as of this stage. The Bayern Munich draw is really tough for them as it is no different than an early finale. If this trio lack in performance then it would bring their end in the tournament.

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