French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[Yurkov]

First of all, we have to separate the domestic league and the Champions League. obviously the difference is significant when compared to the Champions League competition, you and I totally agree on that. With regard to the Champions League, only qualified teams can play in the competition. meaning, Teams that are ranked in the top 4 in the domestic league have the opportunity to take part in the Champions League competition.

For Ligue 1, only the top 2 teams will qualify directly for the group stage while the other 1 team must enter via qualification. This means that there are 3 teams that are likely to qualify for the Champions League group stage from Ligue 1, and that is different from Laliga, Premier League, Serie A and the Bundesliga.

But I agree that the Champions League is one of the most competitive competitions at club level, so it's only natural that the Champions League will always be the most exciting competition to look forward to. PSG have not been able to win a single title so far, but they have reached the final which still failed in the end. This season is also no guarantee for them because Bayern Munich will be the toughest challenge to beat.

Yes you are right, and we know it. I'm just trying to describe it in general.

regarding the Champions League, in this case it is the PSG comparison. who posted earlier that PSG is good in Ligue 1, but not so convincing in the Champions League, that was the subject of our previous discussion.

So far, though it's always failed. PSG always tries to come back to win trophies in the most prestigious competitions in all existing leagues. and that's why, PSG brought in many star players to smooth out the club's goals and dreams of winning the Champions League title.

If they just want to be great in Ligue 1, it's clear they won't sign many stars. well, because the goal is the Champions League trophy. so it's very natural, if they bring in a lot of star players. but on the other side. this becomes very clear the difference for other teams in Ligue 1, PSG is too strong in the domestic league.

Regarding the success or failure of PSG to qualify for the next round, we'll see after the 16th round of the Champions League is rolled out again. for sure, the teams that qualify for the next round are strong teams and that's what makes this competition more competitive.

The best team in Ligue 1 so far is PSG. No other club has the kind of quality football they have in their team. PSG holds the supremacy of Ligue 1 every time. I am sure no one can beat them this time and they will secure the League 1 title again.

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[SirLancelot]

If PSG does not win the Champions League title, I agree that a few things are about to change. There are a couple of significant players for PSG who will be departing the team and that is to be expected. In spite of the fact that the PSG have a very strong team, they can at times be very inconsistent when it comes to their performance. PSG needs to avoid those situations.

In addition, although all of the players are doing well individually, there does seem to be a lack of chemistry between a few of the players in the squad as a whole. As a result, a lot of problems can arise due to that. In the current season of League 1, Paris Saint-Germain is doing very well. We will have to wait and see if they are able to perform adequately in the Champions League.

I feel like there is an overreacting to UCL, it's not an easy cup to win and there shouldn't be a pressure on the players. In any case, Mbappe is very very young, he will still be playing football after Messi and Neymar retires, which means that we could see the owners building a whole team around him yet again and again, maybe get some other known players.

Like for example, everyone talks about Jude Bellingham going to premier league as an English player, what if PSG ends up paying him good money to go there? If they can build a team of players age 25 or under, to surround Mbappe with great talent, then even if they don't win now, they can win 5-6 years later with that roster.

[bekti3]

Ligue 1 will definitely belong to PSG, I have good reason to assume this because there is no other team in Ligue 1 that can disrupt PSG's dominance. Apart from focusing on Ligue 1, PSG really wants the Champions League trophy. PSG has been waiting for the Champions League Trophy for a very long time but has never managed to achieve it. PSG strengths can provide competition in the UCL, they need mentality to achieve their goals. This season has been very friendly with PSG, especially in Ligue 1, PSG needs high concentration to conquer the Champions League for the first time in the club's history.

with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.

70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.

[KTChampions]

with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.

70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.

[tranthidung]

I feel like there is an overreacting to UCL, it's not an easy cup to win and there shouldn't be a pressure on the players. In any case, Mbappe is very very young, he will still be playing football after Messi and Neymar retires, which means that we could see the owners building a whole team around him yet again and again, maybe get some other known players.

They can only build their team around Mbappe if he is happy in Paris and accept to play for them in next few years or one decade. Since a season beginning, Mbappe does not show he is happy in PSG even receiving so high salary from the club. Depends on PSG results in this season, Mbappe will decide to continue with them or to leave.

Like for example, everyone talks about Jude Bellingham going to premier league as an English player, what if PSG ends up paying him good money to go there? If they can build a team of players age 25 or under, to surround Mbappe with great talent, then even if they don't win now, they can win 5-6 years later with that roster.

In the past, English players did not want to move beyond their country and Premier League to play in other countries at other leagues. Very few English players in the past accepted such risk and had abroad playing journeys. Only few like Steve McManaman (Real Madrid), Gascoinge (Lazio), Owen, Beckham, Woodgate (Real Madrid).

Recent years, we saw more English players moved beyond Premier League especially young players are more keen on Bundesliga to grow their career like Jadon Sancho, Jude Bellingham (Dortmund). Smalling and Tammy Abraham moved to Serie A to revive their career.

However playing in Ligue 1 is not their favorite option at least now. It is interesting assumption that Jude will be a pioneer for English players in Ligue 1. It is possible because PSG is very rich and they can give Jude an irrejectable offer.

[redsun114]

with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.

70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.

Things like these are not available on anywhere most chances this is his personal stuff as I also agree 70% is too much because now in first game of the knock-out round they are going to play against Bayern Munich which is also another hot favorite team, and they can beat PSG in this round which mean all chances are ended very quickly right now nothing is predictable as things are going to be clear after the end of this world cup if we have no notable big injury which create problems for any club then surely things could be amazing for all clubs.

Bayern Munich has never been easy opponent for any teams with their strength and performance which is also at the best before break, and they can do any stuff for any team but surely after this match we can go with better predictions because things could be clear and easy.

[D-law]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

[Docnaster]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

Does Messi even remember those things, players are always willing to take new challenges and make new sacrifices. It is the club that takes revenge and not individuals.
I don't have high hopes for Messi, Mbappe and Neymar because I have seen where three of them crashed out in the same champions league.
If they really want to win, they have to work hard for it, big names don't play ball, it is hard work that plays it.

[maju69]

Ligue 1 will definitely belong to PSG, I have good reason to assume this because there is no other team in Ligue 1 that can disrupt PSG's dominance. Apart from focusing on Ligue 1, PSG really wants the Champions League trophy. PSG has been waiting for the Champions League Trophy for a very long time but has never managed to achieve it. PSG strengths can provide competition in the UCL, they need mentality to achieve their goals. This season has been very friendly with PSG, especially in Ligue 1, PSG needs high concentration to conquer the Champions League for the first time in the club's history.

with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.

I don't see a big percentage of them getting the Champions League title. The reason is, this is only the top 16, they still have a long way to go to reach that percentage. I will agree with what you said when I saw them play in the final, and that too against the underdogs, not from names like Real Madrid, Manchester City or any of the favourites. Don't focus on giving them a high percentage, it would be better if we see their next match first.

[Slow death]

Regarding the success or failure of PSG to qualify for the next round, we'll see after the 16th round of the Champions League is rolled out again. for sure, the teams that qualify for the next round are strong teams and that's what makes this competition more competitive.

PSG's next opponent will be bayern on february 14th, we all know that bayern is an extremely strong team and honestly the chances of psg winning against bayern are small, and everything gets worse because bayern can still add more good players and improve even more, while PSG if they try to add more players could run the risk of destabilizing the team mainly in their defense, PSG will need a lot of luck to beat bayern, it won't be an easy game, that's why I think it shouldn't be create many expectations

Ligue 1 will definitely belong to PSG, I have good reason to assume this because there is no other team in Ligue 1 that can disrupt PSG's dominance. Apart from focusing on Ligue 1, PSG really wants the Champions League trophy. PSG has been waiting for the Champions League Trophy for a very long time but has never managed to achieve it. PSG strengths can provide competition in the UCL, they need mentality to achieve their goals. This season has been very friendly with PSG, especially in Ligue 1, PSG needs high concentration to conquer the Champions League for the first time in the club's history.

with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.

I don't see a big percentage of them getting the Champions League title. The reason is, this is only the top 16, they still have a long way to go to reach that percentage. I will agree with what you said when I saw them play in the final, and that too against the underdogs, not from names like Real Madrid, Manchester City or any of the favourites. Don't focus on giving them a high percentage, it would be better if we see their next match first.

in my opinion if i made a list of the main favorites to win the champions league i would put PSG as the last team on the list, they still haven't proved their strength in the champions league, so you shouldn't create high expectations, we'll see if they will manage to beat bayern and then if they will be able to pass to another phase and if later in the other phase they will be showing some good performance, at that time we will be able to start saying that they have a chance of winning the european camps league, for now I prefer to watch them , a funny thing is that last season I didn't count on Real Madrid going far and being champions, there are things in the Champions League that are a real surprise

[hahay]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

Does Messi even remember those things, players are always willing to take new challenges and make new sacrifices. It is the club that takes revenge and not individuals.
I don't have high hopes for Messi, Mbappe and Neymar because I have seen where three of them crashed out in the same champions league.
If they really want to win, they have to work hard for it, big names don't play ball, it is hard work that plays it.

Even though one of the three players is not available in the PSG squad, basically PSG is still a great team which of course always has the chance to achieve good results. But unfortunately, the competition in the Champions League will never be easy and even though PSG has a good squad and team management, that still doesn't guarantee good results either.
Because, if PSG are indeed ready to go further in the Champions League, at least PSG can prove it first in the group phase.

But in reality, even PSG only finished in second place in the final standings of Group H and still lost to Benfica who was in first place.
This result at least provides a little proof that PSG still doesn't fully have the form expected, and when compared to the results they had in Ligue 1, it still cannot be a reference for PSG to get an easy step in the Champions League.

[lulumiya]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

If you mean that it is still early for this matchup then it is true. But we are free to share our predictions anyway. I'm just feeling myself closer to PSG for now. They are stronger after adding Messi to the team and completing the trio. I will be expecting PSG to perform even better than their last meet with Bayern Munich.

Maybe Messi might not play with a revenge psychology. I just wanted to think like it might be a motivation for him. He might like to finish his bad history against Bayern Munich with a solid performance.

[RaltcoinsB]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

I'm sure Psg wishes the players from the World Cup to come back safe.  I expect the trio of Messi, Neymar, Mbappe to continue in the same way after the world cup.  Neymar suffered a minor injury in the world cup but will get over it and come back stronger.  Psg's biggest chance in Champions League matches will be this offensive line.  Right now they have a better offensive line than Bayern Munich.

[kro55]

But in reality, even PSG only finished in second place in the final standings of Group H and still lost to Benfica who was in first place.
This result at least provides a little proof that PSG still doesn't fully have the form expected, and when compared to the results they had in Ligue 1, it still cannot be a reference for PSG to get an easy step in the Champions League.

PSG has never lost any match against Benfica. They drew. I would say it was a good enough result. As both Ligue 1 and Champions League titles are important for PSG. So PSG did not give a full effort in the match against Benfica. PSG has tried to maintain consistency in both Ligue 1 and the Champions League. And I would say they are successful.
But in the next round, they are going to face the mighty Bayern Munich. If PSG players have any weaknesses or mistakes in this match then they will not be able to win against Munich. Both attacking and defensive players must perform well.

[Sterbens]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

If you mean that it is still early for this matchup then it is true. But we are free to share our predictions anyway. I'm just feeling myself closer to PSG for now. They are stronger after adding Messi to the team and completing the trio. I will be expecting PSG to perform even better than their last meet with Bayern Munich.

Maybe Messi might not play with a revenge psychology. I just wanted to think like it might be a motivation for him. He might like to finish his bad history against Bayern Munich with a solid performance.

Lionel Messi has an unpleasant history when he met Bayern Munich. Yes, he almost always loses against the German giants. Maybe Bayern Munich know what they have to do when faced with Lionel Messi and it's proven they can stop Lionel Messi's movement.
Obviously as a player he wants to repay and improve his record as an individual, and this Champions League is an opportunity for him to do that. We have to be more patient waiting for the time to come.

[Xxmodded]

Lionel Messi has an unpleasant history when he met Bayern Munich. Yes, he almost always loses against the German giants. Maybe Bayern Munich know what they have to do when faced with Lionel Messi and it's proven they can stop Lionel Messi's movement.
Obviously as a player he wants to repay and improve his record as an individual, and this Champions League is an opportunity for him to do that. We have to be more patient waiting for the time to come.

Lionel Messi always not lucky against with Bayern Munich trough still became Barcelona player and right now have to face as PSG player, actually many fans still memorize with last time Lionel Messi beaten by Bayern Munich with fantastic score 8-2 when Messi still with Barcelona. I don't think have lucky for Lionel Messi another time have to face with Bayern Munich although they have changed with players composition than last time beaten Messi with Barcelona, actually Bayern keep favorite for beating PSG based on 100% winning games in group stage and Bayern the only one team in Champion League in this season not loss any points yet in group stage.

[snipie]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

It is hard to get a revenge from Bayern but I assume if they play good enough they can get a pass through them especially that Bayern has its weakest moments where any team can win against them for a match or two.
Now everyone is concentrated on World Cup to see their teams or favourite players. Mbappe is fine, Messi and his teammates lost vs Saudi Arabia and they are facing Mexico right now, we will see how far they could go..

[izsara]

PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times. 

It is hard to get a revenge from Bayern but I assume if they play good enough they can get a pass through them especially that Bayern has its weakest moments where any team can win against them for a match or two.
Now everyone is concentrated on World Cup to see their teams or favourite players. Mbappe is fine, Messi and his teammates lost vs Saudi Arabia and they are facing Mexico right now, we will see how far they could go..

The problem is whether this moment can be obtained by PSG, especially now that Bayern is indeed extraordinary both in the domestic league and the Champions League.
On the other hand, these two clubs are actually very good with all the domination that exists for both of them, especially since they are the rulers in the domestic league in their region (PSG for Ligue 1 and Bayern for the Bundesliga).
Bayern did sometimes have periods when they repeatedly couldn't play well when we look at their game in the Bundesliga but things like this are in the past because of several changes in Bayern's position in players and it's very difficult now for PSG now to make Bayern's moment come back like that.

[dezoel]

If you mean that it is still early for this matchup then it is true. But we are free to share our predictions anyway. I'm just feeling myself closer to PSG for now. They are stronger after adding Messi to the team and completing the trio. I will be expecting PSG to perform even better than their last meet with Bayern Munich.

Maybe Messi might not play with a revenge psychology. I just wanted to think like it might be a motivation for him. He might like to finish his bad history against Bayern Munich with a solid performance.

Big players never think about revenge because this is never been existing in this sports world with those think about this or having mindset like this they can't do big things in life here we are going to have another big match between two giants from Europe and their background is same as both have no suitable opponents in their domestic leagues with this PSG is surely looking for better future because they are doing good investment and have better squad in this season which is surely going to help them for having better result in this season.

But, one thing is surely if PSG unable to have any positive result from this season then surely we are going to have big changes in coming months in PSG even management can put this club on sell as we already have few in English Premier League, but this one could be really sad.

[bekti3]

with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.

70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.

That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?