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November 21, 2022, 03:25:01 PM
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PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.
They do not need one title, they need all 6 and that's the issue. Could they end up with all 6? To win the ligue 1, that’s easy, to win the domestic cup? That should be easy, to win UCL? That’s very hard and that’s what they aim every single year, and spending that much money? Owners surely believe they deserve to win UCL at least once. After that is easy, it's domestic super cup, which should be child’s play, to win uefa super cup, to play with europa winner, not as easy but still should be easy, and then club world cup which is hard but still doable.

If we ever see PSG win those all 6 cups, that would be "enough", like not just for one year, but after that they can just win ligue 1 and nothing else for another 10 years and still be happy about the situation.

For those who have never reached the top, of course, the main task is to do this at least once, and given the history of PSG's failures, for the sheikhs this could be an idea fix. I really don't care what their future plans are as I hope this corrupt scum won't win the Champions League even once  Grin

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November 21, 2022, 06:49:33 PM
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Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.
The promoted teams have always difficulties to stay in the league for the first season since their players are weaker and weren't used to play vs professional teams mainly.
Their most important goal is to stay in the league first then to progress in the ranking whenever they consolidate the team with new good players.
Unfortunately for Ajaccio and Auxerre is that they joined Ligue 1 in the hardest season where 4 teams at once will drop to the second league..
Players in promoted teams are not experienced enough. So suddenly they cannot perform well when they face strong teams. Gradually they lose confidence and their performance deteriorates further. However, the main weakness of teams like Ajaccio and Auxerre this season is their poor defense. The defense of these two teams is one of the weakest defenses in the league. I'd say Ajaccio and Auxerre can stay out of the relegation zone if they can strengthen their defenses.
Agree with what you say but actually seeing the current conditions they are still able to survive especially in this case there are some surprises of course like Strasbourg and Angers.
Actually for the promotion team, the chance is still very small for them to survive, but that doesn't mean they can't survive because if they can stay competitive, then whether it's a promotion team or not, it's clear that there is still a chance to stay in the main caste.

I would say every team outside of 11th in the points table has an equal chance of going into the relegation zone. Because Toulouse, which is in 12th position in the points table, is only 3 points apart from Auxerre, which is in 17th position. And so at any time the position of these teams may change. A team can stay away from the relegation zone if they manage to win 3/4 out of matches in a row. So now it is not possible to predict which teams will be able to stay in Ligue 1 next season.

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November 21, 2022, 07:01:38 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
Has there been a bit of news leaks about the departure of the good players at PSG if this season PSG are unable to win the Champions League trophy? Because if it only came from your mind, I still can't believe it because the audience's thoughts are just speculation whose certainty is still unclear. Because the Champions League is a very difficult and challenging league, so only a team that can really have high ability and consistency will win the Champions League trophy.
But it is not wrong to assume that because the club leaders are still very interested in the Champions League trophy so that when they fail again now it is not impossible that Nasser Al-Khelaifi will continue to add good players and replace those who feel they have failed so that their wish is achieved to win this competition .

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November 21, 2022, 07:07:55 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
Has there been a bit of news leaks about the departure of the good players at PSG if this season PSG are unable to win the Champions League trophy? Because if it only came from your mind, I still can't believe it because the audience's thoughts are just speculation whose certainty is still unclear. Because the Champions League is a very difficult and challenging league, so only a team that can really have high ability and consistency will win the Champions League trophy.
lol, I was surprised to read this post that if PSG fails to get the UCL trophy this season then PSG will throw away their star player. PSG may very easily get the Ligue 1 trophy but the UCL trophy requires a tough struggle, they have to beat a lot of great and rich teams, so it's not easy for PSG owners to force their squad to be able to get the UCL trophy.

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November 21, 2022, 07:11:51 PM
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Mbappe himself have a contract with PSG until 2025, in my opinion he will not rush to move because at PSG this man has the privilege with a fantastic salary, also there is no news about this man to move another club. Regarding Lionel Messi contract with PSG will expire at the end of the 2022/2023 season. According to the news I've read, PSG will continue contract talks with Lionel Messi when he returns from the World Cup. I personally also don't really believe in news on the internet except directly from the club official website.
In last few months we have few different rumours about PSG future because now management is frustrated as they are spending huge funds but still unable to win their most desired trophy Champions League even they have worlds best squad and most lethal attack which is useless in European competitions.

But, now if in this season we have no positive development about this then surely we can expect good changes even few rumours are saying current owners can sell this club which could be never good for them as usual they have good command in French league and their current points gape is going to widen which mean they could be announced champions few weeks early which happening for last few years, but main concern is UEFA need good breakthrough in this season with now their next match is against Bayern Munich.

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November 21, 2022, 07:11:59 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
This can't be their last chance of winning the champions league, if they fail to win it this season, they would try again next time, and they will keep trying until they can get it right, that is how football works, you can't give up because you failed to win a trophy, the same way you desire to win it is the same way other teams want to win it too. Psg may even be eliminated in the next round this season, they have a strong opponent in Bayern Munich. Lionel Messi isn't returning to Barcelona, there is no reason for him to, if he wants to leave psg he will go somewhere else, Mbappe has a big contract with psg, and if he is going to leave, the team that will buy him will have to pay too much money, which makes it hard. Even if psg fail to win the champions league this season, and then lose players, they have the money to buy new players that are very good, and try again.

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November 21, 2022, 08:58:21 PM
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To be honest, PSG is not being able to bring good enough results, and that is a big reason why a lot of star players think that they need to achieve more in their careers. They eventually end up leaving PSG. Neymar is a player who actually never unlocked his full potential. To me, it still feels like he has a lot of potentials but that potential never got unlocked and in search of unlocking his potential, he is already quite old. But the positive thing is that he is wanted by a lot of clubs if he wants to leave PSG. And I think he will leave. But I am not sure about Lionel Messi.
They win 1-2 titles each year at the very least, and go far in champions league every year, that should be enough for most players, maybe not even for Mbappe, but Neymar and Messi already achieved so far in their life, wouldn't need anything else, and the others are not really that good enough to be starting position players for an UCL team anyway, they are in a team as good as they can get.

So, I am guessing that they should be happy with what they have, and Mbappe is getting paid so much that he should be happy even if they lose it all, like even if they fail to get the domestic cup, the league, the ucl, all of them and should still be happy because dude is getting paid insane amounts.

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November 21, 2022, 11:31:13 PM
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Mbappe himself have a contract with PSG until 2025, in my opinion he will not rush to move because at PSG this man has the privilege with a fantastic salary, also there is no news about this man to move another club. Regarding Lionel Messi contract with PSG will expire at the end of the 2022/2023 season. According to the news I've read, PSG will continue contract talks with Lionel Messi when he returns from the World Cup. I personally also don't really believe in news on the internet except directly from the club official website.
A star like Lionel Messi is always targeted by news that can surprise many people, because it is processed by news writers based on their own thoughts, not based on the official site, so I ask when there is no confirmation or news from the official site. But wherever Lionel Messi is next season, he won't be as productive as before so other teams have to really understand this if indeed Lionel Messi can really move.

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November 21, 2022, 11:48:13 PM
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Mbappe himself have a contract with PSG until 2025, in my opinion he will not rush to move because at PSG this man has the privilege with a fantastic salary, also there is no news about this man to move another club. Regarding Lionel Messi contract with PSG will expire at the end of the 2022/2023 season. According to the news I've read, PSG will continue contract talks with Lionel Messi when he returns from the World Cup. I personally also don't really believe in news on the internet except directly from the club official website.
A star like Lionel Messi is always targeted by news that can surprise many people, because it is processed by news writers based on their own thoughts, not based on the official site, so I ask when there is no confirmation or news from the official site. But wherever Lionel Messi is next season, he won't be as productive as before so other teams have to really understand this if indeed Lionel Messi can really move.
It's a classic one indeed , but you know what? As messi have said that he will of course come back to barcelona anytime soon after he thinks the journey is enough , still it doesn't really mean that he will comeback as a player though isn't it?

Especially if there more offer coming to him from psg ... he will have to think more than twice.

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A star like Lionel Messi is always targeted by news that can surprise many people, because it is processed by news writers based on their own thoughts, not based on the official site, so I ask when there is no confirmation or news from the official site. But wherever Lionel Messi is next season, he won't be as productive as before so other teams have to really understand this if indeed Lionel Messi can really move.

This is a vicious circle - any news inflates the hype around the player and makes him "more valuable" to the media. Even in this thread, 40% of the posts contain the word "Messi" although his significance for PSG and the French championship in general is minimal. Today in the game with Saudi Arabia (lol) he got a score of 6. It is obvious that age has affected him and in terms of prospects he is not interesting.

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With very huge capital spent for player transfers and player as well as coach salary and compensation, will they satisfy with only going far in Champions League?

They don't satisfy with that result and they want to win Champions League. With their resources, they should win many Champions League, not only one time which they even did not achieve so far.

With talented and ambitious players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, I am sure they don't feel happy if they can not win Champions League or Ballon d'Or. To win Ballon d'Or, Champions League trophy is a very big contributor.

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So, I am guessing that they should be happy with what they have, and Mbappe is getting paid so much that he should be happy even if they lose it all, like even if they fail to get the domestic cup, the league, the ucl, all of them and should still be happy because dude is getting paid insane amounts.
They feel happy with money they received from PSG but with professional and ambitious players, they also want to win big trophies. Money is not all for their career and their lives.
Why not? Aside from the trio of Messi + Neymar + Mbappe, all other players deserve only the league and domestic cup, I mean they are not sowrld star players, they are just players that would be happy to win the title. What makes them so much better is that trio, and if they win one UCL with them, that would be great, but even if they don't, I feel like they should be happy about what they have.

Having a dominating team in the league, nobody even close to you is a great feeling, msut be, I never became a fan of a team that was that good, and that means fans are luck. No matter how much money you spend, UCL is never guaranteed, so it should not be a goal, it should be something you are happy to get if you do, but not sad if you don't.

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Lyon vs Nice today match, Very hard to predict this match result. Two team points gap only 1.Both team can be win today match cz both team have more strong balance team.Both opponent are very expensive. I think both team score will be happened in this match.Can Nice will beat Lyon and get 3 point? What do you think who will win today match and get full point?

Before the match, I thought it could be a draw.  The match ended 1-1 with 2 penalty goals, just as I predicted.  Thus, the difference in points between them will continue to be 1.  They are far from the top, now the only goal of both teams will be to play in the European cups.  I know that they will try very hard to finish the league in the top 5.  However, this will not be easy.

WOW I congratulate you, I really didn't think that they were going to have a tie and even less in the way they did it, penalty shots will always be what give much more to talk about, however I don't see it as easy for these teams to climb either, the league is it's getting tough and the strongest are consolidating, well not the strongest, the strongest that we all know is PSG, but of course now after the World Cup everything can change, because the transfer windows open, purchases and everything what a team can be strengthened, if this is so, could we see a PSG without Mbappé? we don't know, maybe without Messi?

This PSG team has everything to win the UCL, which is what they lack, I think it shows that not all the money in the world can buy certain things.

With very huge capital spent for player transfers and player as well as coach salary and compensation, will they satisfy with only going far in Champions League?

They don't satisfy with that result and they want to win Champions League. With their resources, they should win many Champions League, not only one time which they even did not achieve so far.

With talented and ambitious players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, I am sure they don't feel happy if they can not win Champions League or Ballon d'Or. To win Ballon d'Or, Champions League trophy is a very big contributor.

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So, I am guessing that they should be happy with what they have, and Mbappe is getting paid so much that he should be happy even if they lose it all, like even if they fail to get the domestic cup, the league, the ucl, all of them and should still be happy because dude is getting paid insane amounts.
They feel happy with money they received from PSG but with professional and ambitious players, they also want to win big trophies. Money is not all for their career and their lives.
Why not? Aside from the trio of Messi + Neymar + Mbappe, all other players deserve only the league and domestic cup, I mean they are not sowrld star players, they are just players that would be happy to win the title. What makes them so much better is that trio, and if they win one UCL with them, that would be great, but even if they don't, I feel like they should be happy about what they have.

Having a dominating team in the league, nobody even close to you is a great feeling, msut be, I never became a fan of a team that was that good, and that means fans are luck. No matter how much money you spend, UCL is never guaranteed, so it should not be a goal, it should be something you are happy to get if you do, but not sad if you don't.

Well I think what you feel is the same as what many players who are in the Spanish League with Real Madrid feel, I know that many people put it aside, and that usually bothers them, however this is for PSG and yes, there are many stars, a great trio of stars, this same feeling is something that many French people can feel, PSG is obviously dominating the league and will continue to dominate it, but at one point this is not so bad, a team has to be born that is strong enough to become the Barcelona of the League, which always competes with Real Madrid in the League, now well, for me one of the best teams will be PSG, but I have a lot of faith in Marseille, Lille , which are teams that are there but still lack something to fully shine.

Of course I say all this from the point of view that I have as a fan who likes good football and it is something that arouses any emotion.

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November 23, 2022, 12:10:25 PM
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A star like Lionel Messi is always targeted by news that can surprise many people, because it is processed by news writers based on their own thoughts, not based on the official site, so I ask when there is no confirmation or news from the official site. But wherever Lionel Messi is next season, he won't be as productive as before so other teams have to really understand this if indeed Lionel Messi can really move.

This is a vicious circle - any news inflates the hype around the player and makes him "more valuable" to the media. Even in this thread, 40% of the posts contain the word "Messi" although his significance for PSG and the French championship in general is minimal. Today in the game with Saudi Arabia (lol) he got a score of 6. It is obvious that age has affected him and in terms of prospects he is not interesting.
Big names will always be the center of attention, especially now that he is a star player who will soon decide to retire from being a professional player. I personally am someone who does not trust news with unclear sources, I prefer other, higher quality news based on sources and not based on speculation from the maker. But indeed that is the risk of a player who is labeled a star, his movements will always be the subject of news.

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This is a vicious circle - any news inflates the hype around the player and makes him "more valuable" to the media. Even in this thread, 40% of the posts contain the word "Messi" although his significance for PSG and the French championship in general is minimal. Today in the game with Saudi Arabia (lol) he got a score of 6. It is obvious that age has affected him and in terms of prospects he is not interesting.
Big names will always be the center of attention, especially now that he is a star player who will soon decide to retire from being a professional player. I personally am someone who does not trust news with unclear sources, I prefer other, higher quality news based on sources and not based on speculation from the maker. But indeed that is the risk of a player who is labeled a star, his movements will always be the subject of news.

Football is partly show business, so the importance of big names is undeniable. I talked about sports prospects, I think that PSG can find much stronger and more motivated players for his position. As for the reliability of the information, either you check/discuss the rumors, or you watch the actual news - when the contracts have already been signed. But the second option is not very interesting, right?

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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
This can't be their last chance of winning the champions league, if they fail to win it this season, they would try again next time, and they will keep trying until they can get it right, that is how football works, you can't give up because you failed to win a trophy, the same way you desire to win it is the same way other teams want to win it too. Psg may even be eliminated in the next round this season, they have a strong opponent in Bayern Munich. Lionel Messi isn't returning to Barcelona, there is no reason for him to, if he wants to leave psg he will go somewhere else, Mbappe has a big contract with psg, and if he is going to leave, the team that will buy him will have to pay too much money, which makes it hard. Even if psg fail to win the champions league this season, and then lose players, they have the money to buy new players that are very good, and try again.

Big teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City and maybe also Newcastle I believe they are ready and they can afford to pay big money for Mbappe, because this is a way for them to have a better chance of winning the title.
But regardless of which team is able to pay Mbappe dearly, I think about the chance to win the Champions League title, of course there is no last chance for a team. Because if the team is still in a good management condition then of course, they will continue to try to build a better team.
The problem is that their key players might leave, that is not a reason for a team as big as PSG to give up the Champions League title race.

So yes, there will always be turnover and it will keep PSG at least not losing all of their key players.
Therefore, if any key players leave then surely PSG will be able to sign other star players which will hopefully improve the performance of the team as expected to be stronger in the Champions League and not just in Ligue 1.

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November 23, 2022, 05:11:34 PM
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PSG will end the season early most probably and completely focus on the Champions League. Because there is really no big threat to PSG in the Ligue 1 at the moment. Lens might seem to be having a good season now but I don't think they can maintain this consistency for a much longer time. PSG will have a quite enough time to open the point difference with others until their matches against Bayern Munich.

For the second spot in the Ligue 1, I'm favouring Marseille. Maybe their form dropped down suddenly but I believe they are still stronger than the remaining teams fighting for this spot.

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November 23, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
This can't be their last chance of winning the champions league, if they fail to win it this season, they would try again next time, and they will keep trying until they can get it right, that is how football works, you can't give up because you failed to win a trophy, the same way you desire to win it is the same way other teams want to win it too. Psg may even be eliminated in the next round this season, they have a strong opponent in Bayern Munich. Lionel Messi isn't returning to Barcelona, there is no reason for him to, if he wants to leave psg he will go somewhere else, Mbappe has a big contract with psg, and if he is going to leave, the team that will buy him will have to pay too much money, which makes it hard. Even if psg fail to win the champions league this season, and then lose players, they have the money to buy new players that are very good, and try again.
Big teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City and maybe also Newcastle I believe they are ready and they can afford to pay big money for Mbappe, because this is a way for them to have a better chance of winning the title.
But regardless of which team is able to pay Mbappe dearly, I think about the chance to win the Champions League title, of course there is no last chance for a team. Because if the team is still in a good management condition then of course, they will continue to try to build a better team.
The problem is that their key players might leave, that is not a reason for a team as big as PSG to give up the Champions League title race.
So yes, there will always be turnover and it will keep PSG at least not losing all of their key players.
Therefore, if any key players leave then surely PSG will be able to sign other star players which will hopefully improve the performance of the team as expected to be stronger in the Champions League and not just in Ligue 1.

I am actually very amazed! PSG is a team that has probably the sexiest squad in the whole world, right?

They also have a huge amount of money that they can use. And after all the things that they can get, they are still not able to win the one thing which is really expected to win from them, the Champions League trophy.

Yes, I know that if the key players of PSG do end up leaving, they will be able to bring in good players again and that is not a problem for them. But can anyone guarantee that if they bring in other players who are equally good or better because they will be able to win the Champions League?

And at this point, if people are still talking about PSG winning other competitions, I think they are just trying to hide the fact that PSG is failing to win the Champions League trophy.

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November 23, 2022, 10:51:30 PM
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To be honest, PSG is not being able to bring good enough results, and that is a big reason why a lot of star players think that they need to achieve more in their careers. They eventually end up leaving PSG. Neymar is a player who actually never unlocked his full potential. To me, it still feels like he has a lot of potentials but that potential never got unlocked and in search of unlocking his potential, he is already quite old. But the positive thing is that he is wanted by a lot of clubs if he wants to leave PSG. And I think he will leave. But I am not sure about Lionel Messi.
They win 1-2 titles each year at the very least, and go far in champions league every year, that should be enough for most players, maybe not even for Mbappe, but Neymar and Messi already achieved so far in their life, wouldn't need anything else, and the others are not really that good enough to be starting position players for an UCL team anyway, they are in a team as good as they can get.

So, I am guessing that they should be happy with what they have, and Mbappe is getting paid so much that he should be happy even if they lose it all, like even if they fail to get the domestic cup, the league, the ucl, all of them and should still be happy because dude is getting paid insane amounts.

Actually, I cannot agree with you sadly.

Because I think as long as they are unable to win the Champions League title, it is always going to feel like they are not achieving what they should be. I mean making a squad like this was the main target of winning the Champions League, wasn’t it?

I know they are winning titles every season. But I think at this point, even the PSG fans are saying that they should win the Champions League title. And honestly, I think if they do not win the Champions League this season, there will be consequences, very important players of the team might leave.



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November 23, 2022, 10:59:33 PM
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I know they are winning titles every season. But I think at this point, even the PSG fans are saying that they should win the Champions League title. And honestly, I think if they do not win the Champions League this season, there will be consequences, very important players of the team might leave.

Yeah indeed, the main goal of every club in the Champions League is to be the winner of the UCL, to hold the title. But sometimes, if they are failed, they may not really change the squad exactly. As what happened to PSG last season, they failed to hold the title, but they still hold the big players in their team, like Mbappee, They have a lot of football stars, but they failed to win the Champions League last season. In fact, when Mbapee really wanted to leave PSG, they actually offered a position and also a lot of money to keep Mbape at PSG. Yes, it's a little different. However, maybe this season the conditions will be different if they fail many times.

PSG in this French League is unbeaten. But n UCL, they have many big challenges and competitors. In their first match in round 16, they will also fight against Bayern Munich which they are also a strong club. This may not be easy for them. If we see at the composition of the squad, PSG of course has more superstars and a bigger chance of winning. But so far, Bayern Munch could really hold and control big clubs. they are consistent enough for performing very excellently.

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November 24, 2022, 10:40:45 AM
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Because I think as long as they are unable to win the Champions League title, it is always going to feel like they are not achieving what they should be. I mean making a squad like this was the main target of winning the Champions League, wasn’t it?

I know they are winning titles every season. But I think at this point, even the PSG fans are saying that they should win the Champions League title. And honestly, I think if they do not win the Champions League this season, there will be consequences, very important players of the team might leave.

Agree with what you say. Regardless their main target is the Champions League so when they keep failing it's clear this will be something lacking for PSG and Nasser Al-Khelaifi will never be satisfied with this.
Ligue 1 champions are good but with their squad it is clear that winning Ligue 1 is something that is quite easy to do because there is no competition for the title so even if they continue to win there will be nothing to be proud of for Nasser Al-Khelaifi.

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